how did you awaken?

[paganus]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

[phildee3]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

Pure liquid LSD.

But everyone is different so I wouldn't reccommend it, necessarily.

One person can sleep through loud noises;
another through a rough sea-crossing, etc.

My recommendation is to ask the higher beings of light to provide your own, particular catylist.
Sincere requests are always answered.

[kblood]

For me it was a bit gradual. Always new stuff to discover both with conspiracies and higher conciousness or whatever it can be called when your mind becomes more open/aware of the world. My mind does not seem to stay aware though, it sometimes reaches another state of conciousness for a while, usually not long, and not by using drugs.

As for the discovering of conspiracies. First I was wondering why there seem to be flaws in what we was taught in school, and after changing to another school, I was lucky to get a teacher who is very openminded. He tried to show us and explain to us part of what is going on behind the scenes, and that scienctific discoveries were not at all something scientists agreed upon. F.ex. that some plants seems to be doing unexplainable alchemical... transmuations of matter. Sometimes plants make something that they should not be able to, even if they could change molecules. He also had his own views on how our bodies functioned, like our feelings might have their center in our heart. He also told about how in WW2, before USA bombed Japan with the nuclear bomb, they were trying to surrender. They knew they could not win, but the surrender declaration never got to the presidents attention. Not before the nuclear bomb had been used anyway. He also made us aware about how foods could contain poison. Not regular food though, he used Red Bull as an example and told us how one can of Red Bull contains what equals the amount of caffeine that you would have in 10 cups of coffee or more.

[368jrn]

Ive always wondered about "GOD" and " the meaning of Life", whats it all about.

For me it was 7/7. I work for the London underground . Until this day i had wondered about 9/11 and the war on terror, but the fact that it could have been me driving one of those tube`s really pissed me off, I AM NOT EXPENDABLE! But it was still not for another year before I really stared to read up about 9/11, having watched Loose Change i realised that we are being fucked over, so i read about 7/7. This then lead me to look at prophecies like Nostrodamus and revalations ( being an atheist at the time) , which then lead me to other avenues like quantum physics and sacred geomtry, , the great carbon con, the illuminati, and spiritualism , to where i am now, which is the realisation that i , just as we all are , and as everything is, are an expression of the one creative consciousness , the infinite love .

When you get your head around the fact that our solid reality is 99.999% empty space, and even just looking into the night sky and seeing all those stars puts the vastness of our "reality" into perspective, you got to know that there is an intelligent force behind it all.

I`m with 2012 brigade, its all cycles, everything is motion, evolution here we come! Peace out, ;)

[swiftlouie143]

about 4 years ago after watching Loose Change

[amercury]

A combination of contemplating christ and hindu philosophy. Go figure.

[sensimillia]

david icke kicked me in the balls, thankfully...:D

[tim the enchanter]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

Depends what you mean by waking up. I certainly never had a single catalytic epiphany, like religous/spiritual people do (or claim to, depending on the sincerity of the individual). Maybe it's down to past lives, to genetic inheritance, to my upbringing, or all or some of the above, that I can say that the person I am now is not radicaly different than the person I was when I was a child and a teenager. It's been one continous learning experiance and I certainly couldn't claim I've reached some terminus of awareness, if that's what your question implies. There was a rather traumatic experiance I had when I was 14 that involve running away from home for a year. That, I think, equaly helped and hindered my growing up. Reaing David Icke was a bit of a knock to the senses, ha. So I have my mother to thank for having a few copies of Icke's work layig around the house for me to stumble upon. Though I do not consider researching the Big Mysteries of life to start and end with Icke's research, as he himself would admit. Though he might be a bit less modest if you questioned him on the validity of his Infinit Oness ideas/experiances.

[tim the enchanter]

A lot of my personality might hinge on the fact that from an early age I developed the most acute sense, as far as I can remember right now, that fancy-free horror and cruelty were common themes of being alive on earth.

[smoggy88]

trying not to sound stupid, how do i even start to ''awaken?"

[tootrue]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

The final think that woke me up, is when the whole, of everything pissed me off
I thought - 'what the hell have i got to loose..., erm, a dream world?
That's alright then!'

[clipwip]

(1) puberty
(2) Cough syrup (DM)
(3) LSD
(4) Sex
(5) Growing up
(6) 9/11 (the main "what is going on in the world" event for me and most others)

Since then it has just been an exponential curve.

[lizzy]

I tuned school out early....I was ( am ) dyslexic, they thought I was 'slow' but i knew I was not.
My mom was a member of the communist party in the 50's so she had a little different 'take'.
In 1979 , I was 19 ,read Huxley , Orwell ect, but never dreamt that I would see it my lifetime. I read 'Chariots of the God' and in 1982 went to Peru,Brazil, Argentina,Boliva ,and basically sailed into Rio and flew out of N.Y. In that year I saw so much poverty, it really changed me and I got that the 'fix' was in for the third world with the IMF and World Bank back then.
That Vietnam was orchastrated in the Gulf of Tonkin was known back then too.
Then in 1980 I got amrried and came to live inthe USA, then everything went dormant, just raising kids. I never expected to stay , the US is a cultural blackhole and toally proganderised , I missed the tv, papers and pubs.
But when I saw those towers fall I knew it was fishy, just too damned neat.
Then Loose Change and I was off and running. The last 4 yrs have been a trip of a lifetime. Maufactured and manipualted wars, IRS, Fed Res, Lincoln/Kennedy assinations, the history of the ancient Elite into the NWO, club of Rome, Bilderbergs..................
Then the suppression of cheap energy for a 100 yrs, how advanced they (we) really are haarp, rfid, microchip and now they are beaming it right into our f-n heads, voice to skull.......how many people thought they were going mad when they heard voices in their heads? and now it is an advertising gemmick????????
So I read a couple books but found most on the net and watched alot of vids.
Morgellons is the freakyest of all.
I am a doom and gloomer, yes and i make no apologys.....yes, my spiritual journey is kicking back in big time , a path i sort of lost touch with when I moved to the USA but always keep an 'alternative , holistic / herbal therapy approach.
How they have fucked up our planet is so f'n evil it staggers the mind.
lizzy

[phildee3]

trying not to sound stupid, how do i even start to ''awaken?"

By asking how.

[smoggy88]

well.. how?

[paganus]

may sound lame,but for me a combination of Wicca,Hinduism and wait for it,the movie the Matrix!

[phildee3]

well.. how?

By asking.

You've done it.

You asked.

You've started.

Welcome!

[tim the enchanter]

Likewise as mentioned above, The Matrix, 1984 and reading up on 9/11 were all important influences for me. The Matrix trilogy still staggers me every time I see it, and is a tremendous fount of influence; huge symbolic (and not so symbolic) clues about life are littered throghout the films like confetti.

[helloperator]

Well I don't even know if I am awake.

But one thing that makes me just stop and go 'what the fuck is this?' is the sun. It's so taken for granted...but shit! There is a massive fucking ball of fire in the sky, burning like a bastard. What the fuck!?

Then of course there's the moon...and it's like 'shit! There's a massive round rock up in the sky!'

I mean, come on...these things are like bread and butter to us...but think about it! They are so fucking strange!

So I suppose it stirs me from the humdrum.

Know what I mean?

[tim the enchanter]

Well I don't even know if I am awake.

But one thing that makes me just stop and go 'what the fuck is this?' is the sun. It's so taken for granted...but shit! There is a massive fucking ball of fire in the sky, burning like a bastard. What the fuck!?

Then of course there's the moon...and it's like 'shit! There's a massive round rock up in the sky!'

I mean, come on...these things are like bread and butter to us...but think about it! They are so fucking strange!

So I suppose it stirs me from the humdrum.

Know what I mean?

One of the most unspeakably staggering things about being human is that all of this is so unspeakably staggering to us. It's more or less beyond human language.

Know what I mean? :D

[lizzy]

One of the most unspeakably staggering things about being human is that all of this is so unspeakably staggering to us. It's more or less beyond human language.

Know what I mean? :D
yes, I do and it is getting that way..the language we need to use to express their technolgy arrayed against us is hard to describe, .. holographic, holosync (voice to skull), nanotech = Morgellons........

[helloperator]

Sure I know what you mean Tim...that's why my post is peppered with obsenity.

I'm afraid that I am an awakened being in sheep's clothing.

I have no idea what's going on, but I like to think I do.

[paganus]

Likewise as mentioned above, The Matrix, 1984 and reading up on 9/11 were all important influences for me. The Matrix trilogy still staggers me every time I see it, and is a tremendous fount of influence; huge symbolic (and not so symbolic) clues about life are littered throghout the films like confetti.:) great! so not so lame! i dreamt about that film for weeks afterwards...

[kweli]

Through pain and suffering.

[on the road]

the alarm clock . bum bum

pawns in the game by william guy carr .proper woke me up.

[beldazar]

Hi my name is beldazar, well it isnt but you know what i mean! Im new to all of this and am still in a state of shock really. I was sent a u-tube vid on global warming , and along side it there was a vid titled 'should this video be banned' so of course i watched it! It explained the coincidences of Jesus' birthday on the same day as (or round about) as saturnalia, winter solstice, and how it has the same coincidences of horus, krishna and many other worshipped idols, all corresponding to the rising of the sun! I had always wondered why we did not celebrate the sun. Anyway, I went onto another so i thought completely unrelated subject about crop circles! After doing a lot of research looking at possible hoaxes etc, I was led onto the Mayan calendar and how they have predicted the 'end of time'. I had not even heard of 2012. I did further research onto saturnalia, the leap in genetics, why there is no missing link, illuminati, freemasons, egyptian heiroglyphs, ancient aborigine drawings of astronauts, ancient symbols, the works. When i read about the illuminati and the galactic race of annunaki, I was shocked! I chainsmoked that night and the next day when I went to the shops I looked around me and realised that all this is an illusion, virtual reality. I wanted to raise out of my body and leave. I got drunk and stoned that night cos I couldnt take it all in. I thought that I had gone insane and needed help but knew that if I did that they would try to 'fix' me. As I saw the telly that night, all I could see was that all this we have is to satisfy our five senses to keep us blinded. I have calmed down a lot since then although my heart wont stop pounding. I have tried to tell my friends what is going on and they either laugh, think I have lost it or are pitying me which is the worst thing. I have tried desperately to look for a loophole somewhere so I can just put this down to a lapse into some kind of mass hysteria or hypnosis but I CANT!

[beldazar]

p.s. I am sooo glad I found this site! I feel really alone right now, desperate to talk to someone about this without facing ridicule.

[beldazar]

I answer to smoggy, i have absolutely NO IDEA how to awaken, maybe the simple fact of you even being on this site and not thinking 'what a pile of shit' means youre already waking up! I never set out to look for any of this, was just a bizarre set of 'non-coincidences' yours. FREAKED! ;) X

[alice1111]

beldazar, IMO, it's starts with desire and you appear to have that so hang on.

When I was very young, I sensed that things were odd. I would ask the teachers questions outside the box and be ridiculed for it. I went on with my life covering up my feelings the best way I could, school, work, partying, etc.
Then it seemed as if the world began to fall down on me all at once, so much pain that I became determined to find out why. You know, the big questions such as who am I, why am I here, what is life about? I began looking into everything I could think of. Read about a libraries worth of books. Found Osho and his book on meditation and began to do just that. I spent about five years doing not much but meditating and reading. My third eye began to work and I was truly amazed being a westener. What is this? I began to see things that were definitely not of this world and so it began.
There have been times when it seemed too hard and I tried to go back the way I was, but it couldn't work. Once you know, there is no turning back or there wasn't for me. And to be honest, I would not trade what I have learned for anything this world has to offer.

Love,

Alice

[dark86]

i woke up when i did lots of E's in my late teens, then put it down to me being crazy and then spent the next 10 years working, buying cars, living in the ego etc.

last year i started mediating and starting being very energy sensitive, i then watched the disclosure project, zeitgeist, freedom road and read 3 icke books and watched 100+ youtube vids on the illuminati / conspiracy in the space of a week. I woke the fuck up big style.

since, i have read 100+ books, watched endless lectures, been on a spirtual course up a volcano and am soon off to dharemasala in north india.

[phildee3]

beldazar, IMO, it's starts with desire and you appear to have that so hang on...Love, Alice

Exactly!

The only thing I have to add is:

ask...

then be patient and watchful.

[celtic isis]

I answer to smoggy, i have absolutely NO IDEA how to awaken, maybe the simple fact of you even being on this site and not thinking 'what a pile of shit' means youre already waking up! I never set out to look for any of this, was just a bizarre set of 'non-coincidences' yours. FREAKED! ;) X

welcome beldazar :) we're happy to have you here!

don't worry my friend, just go with it, the awakening process is a HUGE one!

i think a lot of people find out about all of this through a set of "coincidences" that were meant to happen...one person (a friend of mine found out simply by seeing the Borat film, apparently there are shape shifting cockroaches in it, they looked it up on google and well that led to icke and now they're awoken too!

I found out...well i was always a ponderer, rebelling against the norms but eventually ending up trying to conform to sheepledom denying the truths i felt in my heart...when i was 23 i met my OH through a series of coincidences and chances...he awoke in college, studying economics etc he too was lucky to have an amazing teacher (not an indoctrinator) who told him the truth and so OH wanted to get fast out of that system of law, money ego etc...a year after we were together he told me about a book he had seen on a site and he bought it...it was Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper...i looked at it thinking it was rubbish really...one night i was bored and started to read it...and everything changed after that!!!!! My oh and i are now on this path together and it seems as if we were brought together or attracted ourselves to eachother against the odds for this reason. :)

I found out the answer to every question, every niggling feeling i ever had about the world and how it works, how everything "fits together"...it was incredible, and a pain in the ass at the same time. And it confirmed to me that i should've followed and trusted my heart all along, that i wasn't in fact nuts and that everything i had been half conditioned to go along with in society was twisted BS.

Everything changes but it's always for the better, so don't worry. I've lost a lot of people on the way, there are so many people i just cannot relate to anymore cause they're living in the illusion that the world is the way it's portrayed to be...BUT IT'S NOT!

We're here for you, if you ever fancy a chat you can pm me. Don't give up though, stay with it cause you've been choosen to find this out.


It will take you higher than you ever imagined in the end.

what have you read so far bookwise? or you've just stumbled upon all of this...i'm trying to think what i can recommend to you to help you a bit...but thinking back i've been on this path for 2 years now almost and i've just like found pieces of information here there and everywhere when i needed it at the time, you will sense the things you need to know as you go along...start with what you need to understand right now, if it's about the new world order etc cooper's book is great for that, for the shock value, right there in black and white. Then icke covers everything really, the whole strands of the web...and if the esoteric knowledge and ancient truths that have been hidden from humanity, there's a wonderful site i discovered last weekend called www.tarotteachings.com

i think that's the name of it, i'll check for you!

it basically tells you the meaning of the tarot (cards) the symbolism that carried (carries), the esoteric knowledge within it. It's an amazing site, i was looking for this for ages and finally found it. :)

hope this helps, take care beldazar :)

[celtic isis]

you can get cooper's book here for free:

www.scribd.com or scribed.com

he was murdered by the feds for all his work trying to get the truth out so don't worry about copyright :) he was a real hero. it's a wondeful book to read, there's a book called none dare call it conspiracy too, crap title but fantastically written! i've been reading it the last few weeks myself.

that's at scribd too.

:)

[celtic isis]

trying not to sound stupid, how do i even start to ''awaken?"

the fact that you're even asking that question! you're already there! :)

keep looking you'll feel yourself awakening, 2 years on i'm still at it :) it's not overnight as such, it goes deeper and deeper as you learn more and understand more.

[blue]

you can get cooper's book here for free:

www.scribd.com or scribed.com

he was murdered by the feds for all his work trying to get the truth out so don't worry about copyright :) he was a real hero. it's a wondeful book to read, there's a book called none dare call it conspiracy too, crap title but fantastically written! i've been reading it the last few weeks myself.

that's at scribd too.

:)

thanks a lot for the direction isis.

[neil]

<i>When I was very young, I sensed that things were odd. I would ask the teachers questions outside the box and be ridiculed for it. I went on with my life covering up my feelings the best way I could, school, work, partying, etc.</i>

I know that sequence very well, Alice. In the midst of all the confusion of people covering up their ignorance, and so on, kids are left to fall by the wayside or damn well do their duty and fit in 'properly' without questioning outside official channels. And so we grow up into the same confused adults — if we're lucky enough to grow sufficiently and find out what that really means. I remember my mum saying, when I was about 12, "Just be yourself." I was genuinely confused by that, because I had no idea what that was, and I'm still puzzling over it now.

How can we learn what it is to be ourselves if we're being constantly diverted and distracted? Are children being taught to listen to themselves? How do we know we've attained adulthood? Is it really the moment where we're allowed to apply for credit?

Even in the places where questioning things is supposedly encouraged — the universities — there's a right way and a wrong way of expressing your questions. The 'right' way, of course, will get you an academic job or a job making public policy. But this elitist structure's a heavily disguised dead end: it supposedly proves how clever the lucky minority is, but actually puts a career-based cap on their questioning and makes the hierarchical pyramid even more pointy.

And yes, I did go to university.

[celtic isis]

thanks a lot for the direction isis.

you're very welcome blue :);)

that site is a great find, another one completely by accident!

[thorleyart]

I'm 27, I've always been a free thinker, never followed the mainstream, was reading books about spirituality and the nature of reality since I was a teenager.

Started dipping into David Ickes books in very late 90's, just reading bits of the bigest secret. I then followed the whole election fraud of 2000.... then 9/11 happened, I remeber thinking at the time 'I wonder what David Icke has to say about this'...

Then a few months later or whenever it was, I read his book about 9/11 from cover to cover!! it absoluely smashed my brains in!! over next couple of years, i read 3 / 4 of his other books, again giving my brain a good kicking every time,

Spent a few years being rather angry and pissed off by it all, no longer.....

I am not worring about it any more...

I think there is an awakening happening, I don't think for one milli second that death is the end.

I will experience paradise, either in this lifetime on this planet, or after death, so it makes no difference really.

I'm trying to live my life how i want to, be optimistic and enjoy what I can.

Peace

[beldazar]

Hey Celt, nice one for that! I was just about to turn off when i decided to check back on this thread. I only skimmed thru your message quickly as my eyes are tired. In answer to your question on what other books I have read...The seat of the soul, Gary Zukav i think, also heart of the soul, same author, The power of now, eckart tolle, The book of secrets, deepak chopra (didnt like that one, kept telling me what to do! lol,) friendship with god, neale donald walsh, wasnt keen on that at the time i read it, You can heal your life, by somebody or other ;)And numerous others. Anyway, those were 'then' books, they helped me at that time, now only today have I ordered David Icke's book children of the matrix, funny when I ordered it tho, the woman read the introductory titles and I had to pipe up, yes and he is telling the truth, should have seen her face! I do feel very lonely, those who have known me a long time ridicule me if I mention any of this, and one is even pitying me, which is far worse I think. Nobody will even check for any evidence although I have ensured them that I have cross-referenced all the facts to make sure to myself I wasnt part of some mass hysteria or hypnosis. I will read thru your post again tomorrow and everyone elses. Hi to Alice, thanks for acknowledging me in your post too,, I will get back to you soon! Another 'hi' to all out there! Great to be here!

[dmt head]

Mushrooms eh changed my perspective, but icke really woke me up , and through that i started researching ayahasca and came across DMT, think I was looking for proof like icke says you might beleive your the one but you probably dont know it, cos I dont know it but smoked DMT proved a lot of things to me, think what I needed was a short sharp shock, and smoked DMT is that, the illusion just disintegrates and when your back this world seems so plastic and unreal, but then icke says everythings an illusion including these alien entitys that exist and were all one after all, an expression of the one thing but ive never felt so loved in my whole life with DMT and I thank icke for that and a friend I made through researching ayahuasca, reading any ickes books will eh wake you up, if thats what its called, maybe its just being more aware I dunno :confused:

[celtic isis]

Hey Celt, nice one for that! I was just about to turn off when i decided to check back on this thread. I only skimmed thru your message quickly as my eyes are tired. In answer to your question on what other books I have read...The seat of the soul, Gary Zukav i think, also heart of the soul, same author, The power of now, eckart tolle, The book of secrets, deepak chopra (didnt like that one, kept telling me what to do! lol,) friendship with god, neale donald walsh, wasnt keen on that at the time i read it, You can heal your life, by somebody or other ;)And numerous others. Anyway, those were 'then' books, they helped me at that time, now only today have I ordered David Icke's book children of the matrix, funny when I ordered it tho, the woman read the introductory titles and I had to pipe up, yes and he is telling the truth, should have seen her face! I do feel very lonely, those who have known me a long time ridicule me if I mention any of this, and one is even pitying me, which is far worse I think. Nobody will even check for any evidence although I have ensured them that I have cross-referenced all the facts to make sure to myself I wasnt part of some mass hysteria or hypnosis. I will read thru your post again tomorrow and everyone elses. Hi to Alice, thanks for acknowledging me in your post too,, I will get back to you soon! Another 'hi' to all out there! Great to be here!

great to hear from you beldazar :)

hey you've been on this path awhile so if you've managed to read all those books! i still have to read some echart tolle, everyone going on about it to me!

For what i bolded above in your post...it's ditto here for me, apart from my other half who's on this path too and of course the members here...i can't relate to anyone, and any new person i meet i'm just bursting to tell them all this too...but you can't really can you so i find myself staying away from people now...ah it's just a phase. I know though, people take things up the wrong way and pity you, think you're depressed or something lol and that's why you'e into this...i've also had plenty of abuse back too, ah sheeple are the best lol

it's really great to have you here!

i've got some pasta overcooking at the mo so i have to go but i'll catch you laters :) take care :)

[celtic isis]

I'm 27, I've always been a free thinker, never followed the mainstream, was reading books about spirituality and the nature of reality since I was a teenager.

Started dipping into David Ickes books in very late 90's, just reading bits of the bigest secret. I then followed the whole election fraud of 2000.... then 9/11 happened, I remeber thinking at the time 'I wonder what David Icke has to say about this'...

Then a few months later or whenever it was, I read his book about 9/11 from cover to cover!! it absoluely smashed my brains in!! over next couple of years, i read 3 / 4 of his other books, again giving my brain a good kicking every time,

Spent a few years being rather angry and pissed off by it all, no longer.....

I am not worring about it any more...

I think there is an awakening happening, I don't think for one milli second that death is the end.

I will experience paradise, either in this lifetime on this planet, or after death, so it makes no difference really.

I'm trying to live my life how i want to, be optimistic and enjoy what I can.

Peace

brilliant post :) great advice there

[drael]

I dont think waking up is as linear as that. To be truely "awake", one would be free of all desire and perceptions and able to manifest anything. To me, waking up happens in waves. Like saturn and karma kicking your arse.

I think a strong desire to know the truth, and some reading and information ive come across. But mostly the desire, which drew all that saturn energy to me.

But that said, its been a crap fight. Saturn is harsh. Learning so much, so quickly is very challenging. My advice to anyone else in a hurry to see through illusions - be patient, give the universe time to do it, its way.

As for NWO, well like most things, i dreamt about it. Thats where ive got most of my information. A good trick for anyone wanting to learn, is simply to ask god/spirit to reach you in your dreams, its karmically gentle, yet capable of very clear communications.

[phildee3]

A good trick for anyone wanting to learn, is simply to ask god/spirit to reach you in your dreams, its karmically gentle, yet capable of very clear communications.


Absolutely.
Well said, Drael.
I keep a pencil and notepad by the bed.
When you're in that half-awake state is the best time to capture those inspired ideas that are given to us in dreams - before you get up.

Ironic, isn't it, that when we wake up (to this world) we tend to go to sleep!

[beldazar]

Hey everyone! A friend of mine is starting to wake up! He has read the 5 legends of atlantis and sent them to me! For me it filled in some gaps and explained why evil was neccessary, it has made me feel LOADS better! He hasnt ventured onto David Icke yet or found anything about Annunaki but he is on the way! He is letting what he has read digest for a mo...
Last night I went outside and looked at the moon, there wasnt just a halo around it...there was a RAINBOW! A RAINBOW around the moon! I cant begin to describe how I feel!

[beldazar]

Dunno how to paste here as yet, not too good on the pc but if anyone is interested its 'Legend of Atlantis, part one. By Elia, the Last prophet' the others are nearby. xxxx

[alice1111]

Hey Beldazar,

If you haven't seen it, there is a thread down lower "Do you feel lonely being a free thinker?" Well, it kinda shows you're really not alone in your feelings.

Love,

Alice

[beldazar]

Hi Alice, thankyou for that. Im not feeling so alienated at the moment. I have a friend who has always seemed a little different to everybody so I phoned her today and told her whats been going on for me. Unfortunately she doesnt have internet access so wont be able to get much information. I used to think she was exaggerating with the strange things she would tell me and never appeared to be a liar or elaborator, so I didnt feel odd telling her what I had found out. I also have a sister and neice who seem to be very interested to hear all about it so all brilliant news!!!
When you mentioned in your first post to me about having the 'desire' I felt that I didnt have any desire! Then I had another think....It was obviously on a subconscious level, but now I have a desire for the Truth to come out! I am no longer bothered about what anybody thinks! If David Icke can come straight to the point then so can I! Love to All xxxxx

[jp13]

Hey Beldazar,

If you haven't seen it, there is a thread down lower "Do you feel lonely being a free thinker?" Well, it kinda shows you're really not alone in your feelings.

Love,

Alice
Hi Alice,
I was looking for the thread you mentioned, but can't find it, is it only available to "premier members" or am I looking inthe wrong place (story of my life). I know I'm not alone in my feelings and thoughts, but it's quite hard to meet people in everyday life who are into the same sort of stuff, and usually when I do meet someone who is aware of "conspiracy theory stuff" I end up thinking that they are a bit mad for swallowing all this stuff, even though I agree with a lot of it. I don't open my mind so much that anything has got room there rent free.
Love+peace
Jp

[alice1111]

jp13, I'll bump the thread for you so just look for it where this one is. I too do not buy into everything, goodness me, I'd go batty.

Love,

Alice

[simonscott]

Friend, please ask not how to be awake, you do not serve yourself, your spirit, your infinite wisdom, for you are already awake! Are you not on this forum? Are you not asking questions (instead of sleeping)? Do you not you have a large thirst for more Truth?

Perhaps some techniques for increasing the flow of Truth within yourself are in order, increasing your vibration? For that I would suggest a powerful and ages old tradition, Kundalini Yoga. They say you can have the perfect Hatha Yoga practice for 25 years and not get the same results as one year of Kundalini. It's powerful, it will change you, your life and most of those around you (I say most as some won't make it, they won't understand your higher vibration and will run for the hills!)

Where to start? Find a teacher, do the meditations. HOLD ON!

http://db.kriteachings.org/
http://www.harijiwan.com/chronicles/chronicles_toc.htm

2012 is just around the corner and with a solid Kundalini practice you are gaurenteed to have the tools to deal with it.

Sat Nam.

[millhouse]

'by chance' i watched David icke was he right' on channel 5,then thought ye everything now makes sense,i.e why is there always bad news , eveywhere, why do you pay back 3 times as much as you borrow on morgages,why is there ALWAYS wars , famine etc etc and thought that 'son of god ' nutcase might have something ere! now i'm addicted!

[bustabass]

:)to smoggy88, everyone is different mate. read all the replys and you'll get the idea. the very fact your asking the question suggests to me you've already started ( even though you may not realise it ). i first started to awaken when my R.E. teacher could'nt answer any of my questions ( and beleive me i had lots!), for someone who devoted there life to god ( she was a nun ), she really knew very little! that was the first seed of doubt about my reality ( i've had various awakenings and slumbers since, the last being reading mr ickes books! thank you david icke:), anyway, if i could give one word of advice (without sounding like i know what i'm talking about!) just be really honest with YOURSELF. i hope i've been of some help, good luck :)

[emanuel]

As far back as I can remember I have always been rebellious to all forms of authority except my parents....ish!!! and I have always questioned the truth in pretty much every peice of info presented to me. It may be because of my nature that I slipped through the net of control in a way that did not shock or puzzle me! I don't think I was ever 'asleep', just that I could not express what I've always felt is wrong with the world as I view it from my doorstep. We can all see it on a sub-conscious level I suppose, the trick is bringing it to the conscious mind.

[smoggy88]

:)to smoggy88, everyone is different mate. read all the replys and you'll get the idea. the very fact your asking the question suggests to me you've already started ( even though you may not realise it ). i first started to awaken when my R.E. teacher could'nt answer any of my questions ( and beleive me i had lots!), for someone who devoted there life to god ( she was a nun ), she really knew very little! that was the first seed of doubt about my reality ( i've had various awakenings and slumbers since, the last being reading mr ickes books! thank you david icke:), anyway, if i could give one word of advice (without sounding like i know what i'm talking about!) just be really honest with YOURSELF. i hope i've been of some help, good luck :)

Thanks for that, i remember reading so much of ''the biggest secret'' but cant remember why i stopped:confused:

so ok, i have started to awaken by asking the questions, what is the next step

Sorry, im not meaning to be a twat by keep saying yeh but what to do next, i just really dont know what the fuck to do..


and what a coincidence, im listening to a ministry of sound album and i liked the sound of one song, so i checked the name.... "Higher state of Consciousness" creepy, heh

[phildee3]

ok, i have started to awaken by asking the questions, what is the next step



Listen, and watch, for the answers.

When they come, they will be accompanied by a number of synchronicities. That's how to recognise them.

[newfiesheep666]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..
It 's all about the frequency your tuned into both audio and visual.Music is attempting to wake people up constantly.War Pigs,# of the Beast,comfortably numb are just a few.Lennon got started in the 60's,Sabbath and Zeppelin took the torch then metal bands carried it into the 90's,rappers have got it 4 now.Most of these bands were not played on radio back in the day,if you request "peace sells" by megadeth even now,it will not be played on air over the radio.When Tupac and Biggie told us about "the game" that was ok but when they started talkin' about settin' up a new political party,it was game over 4 them.In "Fast Food Nation" the kids try to set the cattle free by opening the gate.How many tried to run to the hills,that's right,start laughin',none.Be happy you are now at the party and spread the "infection",as the elite would call it, only to people you trust.Most people are already brainwashed and want to stay in their la la land.People like us are known as free radicals.What does mediSIN do to treat infections of free radicals aka cancer,that's right,start cryin',they kill almost every cell and start to regenerate from the few that are left.In underground bunkers they've been building 4 some time now.Those who make their own bread don't stand in government bread lines was said a long time ago.I'm sure we will figure something out because as you know,that's right,start laughin',most cancer returns.Where there's a will there's a way.Catch everybody on the next wave,I'm out.

[mariag]

Back in 2005 one of my childhood friends comitted suicide and soone after the time of death he came bak so to speak and visited me in reality and dreams, telling me that there is another way and that we must wake up and give the world love .....
I was awaken at that time thanks to him or his spirit :D

[cyberdaemon]

I dont even know wtf "awaken" really means and i sure dont think that most of you are really "awaken".We are all sheep and thats what we always gonna be. Just different type of sheep!

[phildee3]

I dont even know wtf "awaken" really means



Of course you don't - until you do.

[boots]

It began with me a long time ago after reading a book by Doug Boyd -Rolling Thunder an American Indian medicine man. It opened me up to the reality that this world is not what the mainstream made me think that it is was and it was a gradual process until I was given a mag called NEXUS by a friend WOW more possibilities then a healer friend gave me Davids book The Truth Shall Set You Free and it did. Still working on it though.

[cyberdaemon]

Of course you don't - until you do.

No what i mean is that the whole "wakening" thing is just another delusion.Just like absolutely everything else.When david icke said "infinite love" , he didnt mean your deepest desires.So if you think you get them you are free.But no!These are just delusions.You are still of so called "infinite energy" and that energy is NOT prisoned into timeloop.It is impossible or ither way it woulnt be infinite.All there is is delusions of "freedom" and "slave".In the end everything is still relative and nothing is true.And you are neither free or slave.And yet you are both at same time.

And many people think that they are "free" because they talk about certain aspects of a conspiracy that in the end is just an illusion.David should have said "absolutely everything is illusion and there is no escape from it".Thats why that "search for truth" never ends.

[phildee3]

what i mean is that the whole "wakening" thing is just another delusion..

Isn't that a condradiction of terms?

[venouch]

I just remembered.

[cyberdaemon]

Isn't that a condradiction of terms?

The point is i dont think there is any higher spiritual awakening happening on the earth.

[phildee3]

The point is i dont think there is any higher spiritual awakening happening on the earth.

I do.
I mean, there is clearly an escalation of stupidity,
- must there not be a reciprocal "awakening" occurring in order to maintain a balance?

[dizzib]

http://www.cantbustme.com/surf.php?q=aHR0cDovL2phc29uaG9tbWVsZm9ydW0uY29tL2Z vcnVtcy9zaG93dGhyZWFkLnBocD90PTIzNzcmYW1wO3BhZ2U9M g%3D%3D

[venouch]

As I wrote, awakening came to me naturally as I remembered my past lifes. Any one else has the same experience?

[dmessick]

I'm really not sure. When I was a kid I always thought there was something 'behind the scenes' that I wasn't being told. Later I find that only a few know the truth. It started first with books on the subconsious when I was about 14, then to Davids books and other 'conspiracy' works and now I'm at the stage where I'm understanding how the control through commerce is orchestrated and how to beat it.

[druggalo]

alienz have been phucking with meh since i was an infant , in 1998 i had a confirming encounter with a gang of aliens, that sent me into a extremely paranoid, psychotic state in which i sat in my basement clutching a 44 magnum for three months, afraid to go outside or talk to anyone.the psychical evidence of this event would not let my mind be in denile of what had happened. i was not able to give myself a logical explanation reason or dought. this prepared me for the next ten years

[phildee3]

alienz have been phucking with meh since i was an infant , in 1998 i had a confirming encounter with a gang of aliens, that sent me into a extremely paranoid, psychotic state in which i sat in my basement clutching a 44 magnum for three months, afraid to go outside or talk to anyone.the psychical evidence of this event would not let my mind be in denile of what had happened. i was not able to give myself a logical explanation reason or dought. this prepared me for the next ten years

congrats, druggalo.
you survived.
you made it through.
If anyone's awake here, it must be you!
With your strength, you will walk on into the supreme bliss of the One true Light!

[91181]

william cooper ..

[cyberdaemon]

congrats, druggalo.
you survived.
you made it through.
If anyone's awake here, it must be you!
With your strength, you will walk on into the supreme bliss of the One true Light!

"it" is not over yet.If it ever will be.If it ever existed.

Anyway , good thing is that the 44. magnum was never used.Or thats what i hope.

[amethyst]

GWB's Inauguration 2000- I watched it and I just knew it was a fraudulant election. I knew it was all lies. Can't explain it, it just was...and my eyes were open.

Then 9-11 hit and i just knew.

[celtic isis]

william cooper ..

me too! ;) :)

[celtic isis]

alienz have been phucking with meh since i was an infant , in 1998 i had a confirming encounter with a gang of aliens, that sent me into a extremely paranoid, psychotic state in which i sat in my basement clutching a 44 magnum for three months, afraid to go outside or talk to anyone.the psychical evidence of this event would not let my mind be in denile of what had happened. i was not able to give myself a logical explanation reason or dought. this prepared me for the next ten years

omg you need {{{{{HUGS}}}}} an understatement of the century! feck me i don't know what to say!

:( you poor thing, you have lots in common with the french scientist jean pierre petit...:) he's met them too good ones though. reptillian feckers lol

[celtic isis]

GWB's Inauguration 2000- I watched it and I just knew it was a fraudulant election. I knew it was all lies. Can't explain it, it just was...and my eyes were open.

Then 9-11 hit and i just knew.

kool! you're very observant! :)

[amethyst]

kool! you're very observant! :)

What's really sad is a lot of New Yorkers still don't get it.....and 9-11 happened in their own back yard.

Like they'd rather stay ignorant........"ignorance is bliss" as they say.

[kallista]

A strange religious upbringing and when I was fourteen the books 'The Brotherhood' by Stephen Knight and 'The Spear of Destiny' by Trevor Ravenscroft.

[denworth]

When I realized that Tesla invented a system that would have made electricity universally free, it dawned on me there really is a suppression of human advancement going on. Logical progression led to the central bankers and their exploitation of the simple fact that very few people question what gives their money value.

[athenagoddess]

:) Hi everyone has anyone read books by Delores Cannon, reading a very good one at the moment, she has regressed a reptilian form. Book called convoluted universe book 2. Very interesting and stretching, mind that is.

[oceanwave]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..
without reading the replies,..

for me, it was simply knowing,...

i was/am physically different, subtlety so

...set apart if you will

from a very young age...

...it was that which woke me up....

:)

[thomascovenant]

I knew in Jr school when I realised how little the teachers knew.

[saab1981]

It was when I realised that governments covered up the truth behind almost everything and brainwashed the public via the media, and I chose not to be a part of it any more. I questioned everything, and started discovering the realy truth. I do this entirely alone as no-one I know (family, friends, colleagues)is interested, and I still have much more to learn, but I'm getting there definitely!

[cytro]

Well to be honest I smoked Salvia and it took me to a place beyond imaginable! It honestly felt LIKE HOME - I was back to MY HIGHER SELF? A DEVINE CHILD feeling. It's so weird to described but that is how my awakening process started. I then had this dire soul feeling that Mother Earth is in a, well let's just say blender and I wanted to do everything in my power to help. I began doing lots of research online - books - videos etc... TOOL ( the band ) Anyhow during this research I came across the Iluminati, NWO, Bildaburger, Conspiracies, Reptilian, UFO, Synchronicities ( These are happening ALOT for me ) Dreams ( ET Contact ) DNA Awakening Processes - which I believe I am going through :-/ and other things. Anyhow I just feel that it's time to move to a higher level? Learning so much negative about what is really hidden underneath the veil - I'm seeking Positive.

Books that have helped:

DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman

2012: The Return of the Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck

Behold A Pale Horse by William Cooper

Supernatural by Graham Hancock

P.S. I'm new here so GREETINGS EVERYONE! :p

Cytro

[esowteric]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..
For me, I'd be working hard for months on a project and not getting enough sleep. Then when I stopped all this frantic activity and sat down to relax ... it hit me. After that, I came across the writings of the Sufi mystic Idries Shah and that helped set me on the way.

Regards,

[beldazar]

Hi cytro! My friend came round the other day and he spoke to me of the time he took salvatori divinatum, he said he saw a hole in the wall and his conscience was pulled towards it but he was too afraid to go in. He told the bloke he bought it off and the guy said it was a gateway to the 4th dimension and he should have gone thru. he warned him not to lose his way home, to look out for symbols guiding him back or he could get stranded there. He was also warned that he must NEVER bring ANYTHING back! I had thought of trying it myself as I have done my fair share of mushrooms and acid, but my friend told me of a friend of his who takes 800 mushrooms at one time (i never did more than 200) and his friend took salvatori and vowed to never do it again, too bloody scary for me :)

[danster82]

I think its safe to say not a single person on this forum is awake including myself. All thats happened is we have accumulated information thanks to the internet which has lead to a crital point where our perspective of what we believed before to be true has "shifted" to a new one, maybe closer to the truth.

[cytro]

I think its safe to say not a single person on this forum is awake including myself. All thats happened is we have accumulated information thanks to the internet which has lead to a crital point where our perspective of what we believed before to be true has "shifted" to a new one, maybe closer to the truth.

Thus the PROCESS ........... It will be an ongoing one and I don't intend to stop. Once you have taken a peek - There is no going back.

[phildee3]

I think its safe to say not a single person on this forum is awake including myself. All thats happened is we have accumulated information thanks to the internet which has lead to a crital point where our perspective of what we believed before to be true has "shifted" to a new one, maybe closer to the truth.

I don't think that's safe to say at all.
How can you speak for others?
If you're not awake yourself, what yardstick do you have to measure another's degree of awareness?

[danster82]

phildee3 I guess there is a sort of yardstick but its no analytical. For example
your not awake are you? You know its the truth I know its the truth.
Im not creating value judgements we just know this to be true.

How we know.. maybe its just intuition.

[cl2008]

I started my 'waking up' after my heart got smashed to pieces by the woman I truely loved with all my heart.

That was the start of this journey to constantly seek knowledge.

its a long story and im too lazy to type.

[phildee3]

your not awake are you? You know its the truth I know its the truth.
Im not creating value judgements we just know this to be true.



There you go again! Speaking for me!
I do not know "this to be true."

You know precious little about what I know, if anything,
and nothing about whether I am "awake" or not!

[ag3nt5mith]

Fight Club & The Matrix planted the initial spark/seed...

The Game Assassins Creed finally woke me up, with its odd messages at the end...

Starting will 2012, many youtube videos later on such topics as:-

The White Rabbit & The Red Pill:-

www.theantiterrorist.com

Admiralty Maritime Jurisdiction, How does this effect you?

The Magnificent Deception

Man on the land

The person is legal fiction

Statute deconstruction

Maritime Salvage

WWW.sendnomoney.com

http://www.sendnomoney.com/Sound/July_2006_Gary_This_is_Keven.mp3

http://www.sendnomoney.com/Sound/MP3_04-15-07_Red_Jason_Tom_Collapsing%20_The_Trust.mp3

www.thinkfree.ca

Robert-Arthur: Menard

Russell Porisky + Jordan Maxwell

Bursting Bubbles Of Government Deception

The Occult World Of Commerce

JFK, Speech for the people

Controlled Media

Waco, The FBI massacre

9/11, A story of 3 buildings & 2 planes

7/7

Afganistan, The CIA & the heroin trade

Iraq, War Oil & democracy

Depleted Uranium, The secret nuclear war

Terror, Iran & WWIII

Thought Crime Bill, HR 1955

The Police State

Martial Law

Orwellian Nightmare 1984

Equilibrium

A Scanner Darkly

The Matrix

Mass CCTV

Thumb-Scans in schools

RFID Chip, Verichip

IBM & Hitler, A grizzly past

Biometrics, The future

Kerry, "Don't Taser me Bro?"

Bill Hicks

Alex Jones, Prison Planet, Infowars

Ron Paul

One world religion

One world bank

One World Tax

One World Army/Police force, who are they to fight? Aliens???

One World Government

Albert Pike

League Of Nations

The United Nations

European Union

North American Union

African Union

Asia Union

Albert Pike

The New World Order

History of the Rothchild Family

History of the Rocafella Family

History of the Bush Family

History of the Schwarzenegger Family

Tony Blair, EU President WTF???

Gordon Brown, The PM Never Elected

The Georgia Guidestones

Operation paper clip

The Reichstag Fire, Hitlers, Bush, 9/11

The Committee of 300

The Illuminati

The Bilderberg Group

The Trilateral Commission

Council on Foreign Relations

Skull & Bones 322

Freemasonary

Masonic symbolism

The Templar Order

The Goldsmith Story

The Vatican City State

The Fluoride Deception

ILLUMINATI Bloodlines of power: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=amLDfAMnLVc&feature=related

Researching these topics is a good start for anyone feeling lost on the subject, after all it is vast.

V For Vendetta...

"This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

This last bit pretty much sums up my feelings as of late...:mad:

I'd like to thank Mary Jane for her help during these hard times... :D

Namaste... ;)

[starchildtesla]

Always thinking about this stuff when i was 10 i asked my grandfather why hitlers cap with the all seeing eye and wondered why the enlgish had one too ,something subliminal about the eye caught my attention,
Later i meet some american tourist who had friend in Cia showed us pyramid with all seeing eye said it was illuminati

[deliciously_fresh]

I'd say that I became 'aware' that everything isn't as it seems when I was a child. I felt instinctively that there was something out there to be discovered.

I am still learning and evolving, trying to make sense of the world we live in and attempting to become a better me. :)

[auron]

how did you awaken?

http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/42422/2003851610736514351_rs.jpg

[oiram]

With 15 years of age I awaken and had no more friends!

Here is my story and my input how it could be fixed in Principe!


To make sense out of this Please! Just look at the Video first!
Bankers Preparing for Total Collapse - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgbo2fd_Fy4


Yes they are creating a depression but because that's what the original plan is!
If this will be a real depression would logically mean there is no money around and you can not fight bogus wars, pay for assassinations, pay for organised terrorist attacks without money!

You see this was my question when I was 15 years old Hitler had his little war everything had collapsed economically but he had all the money he needed to finance his war! Was it really his War? Or was he a Osama Bin Laden with a different style beard! So who paid the bill!

But by now we all know who created & financed all the dirty Historical wars and blows there own people to kingdom kam! The same ones which don't like to lose there control & power over man kind right now!

My logic tells me if there really would be no money then there can not be a war! Right!
But because I know that money is just a man made system to keep us enslaved and if you want too you could make as much money as you need to solve all the problems tomorrow! Printing money and writing numbers on paper thats what these Bankers doing for the last 2000 years! They never worked in there life's we are the ones working not them they only play the game!

But you all will see things will go the way they planned not the way the average person thinks and got brainwashed to think!

So to me the problem is how do we stop them not how do we adjust to the situation and how we die for & serve there organised agenda!
The situation is created and is a illusion with a preplanned outcome!

People tell me I am a idiot for the last 25 years and sorry to say I am absolutely not!

I make you an offer help to make all our Governments to resign tomorrow and the next day, all the ones which got kicked out of there houses; because of the Bankers created game, can move back into there houses!

So what is the problem OK the Rich don't make profit right so what! Most of them would end up in jail anyhow ones you get them in front of a real court; not a privately owned court where every Judge likes the money more then the truth! Who in this world need organised crime, murderers, corrupter's or power seeking control freaks playing God over man kind " nobody!"
You need money right so we make what is required! Can not be done of cause this can be done but as it is now money is not the problem it's only paper! The worst can happen you run out of paper!
If we really all that stupid to sacrifice our life's for freaking printed paper then I have to say the Illuminati and the controlled Government is right in believing that we are total retards and they believe we need them to control our life's even to decide over our individual life's as they please!
The problem is what they punch into our heads and these people would not have the power over man Kind thats all!
Wake up and a bit of action; thats all we need to do nothing els!

Don't give this information to the Bankers they may offer me a job to shut me up like they doing it right now with all are politicians! You know what I would refuse the job and give my information absolutely free to the Public I am not like the Power seeking Bankers! I am a Human you get my point!

If you just like to keep the masters over your lives then thats what it will be! But don't complain what is coming because they are just flash & blood but definitely not Human with morals, not your Father, Mother, Master, Jesus, God, Aliens or Reptiles! They flash & blood like you and me; try stick a knife into there hand see if it is red or green! Your are the ones giving the power & title to them; they don't have the power if you don't give it to them!
I am wrong OK! "Right!"

So you worry that they will fight and kill us with the weapons they created from our tax money; thats the actual plan to kill most of us; but why don't we ask nicely for the keys and get them to retired so these crazy power seeking freaks don't destroy the whole world! Then finally we can give people with morals a Public Servant job! If the elected Public Servant don't do his job as required you get rid of him and look for a new Public Servant who follows morals not his ego!
Is that not how it is; if you don't do your job as required you will lose your Job and your boss looks for some one who does the job by the standard rules! Why do we have to except double standards are they more Human then you?

The way it is now they don't even follow the constitution actually they try to burn them to create hell on earth!

Did I forget anything?
YES I did! how could this be done; easy don't Vote for anyone ask them "no tell them" to retire early hand over the keys; then put the ones which deserve to go to jail into jail and employ Public Servants!

So you are not able to handle this right now OK! then just wait for the WWIII to finish and if you still around you maybe will remember what I just mentioned here!

I try to get rid of this what I just say for 25 years; let's see if the time is right, or if I need to wait another 20 years to repeat this points!

This is the biggest wish which comes from my heart and here it came out just to make a total idiot out of me! I think this stupid God told me to tell you this crap!
If you think I am sort of right then please tell me at least I know I am not alone in this crazy world!

If this could be a life saver please send it to your friends if you have any!

Please don't joke about what I say think about it!

[harris999]

Funnily enough, it was from the computer game: World of Warcraft, that i used to play alot. I was browsing thier forums just like i am now, and i saw a thread in the "off-topic forum" about goerge bush or something.

And somebody posted a link to loose change, which i watched and i couldnt beleive it. And one video led to another and here i am :D

[farros]

without a doubt practising the NEW system developed by Robert Bruce.. (http://www.astraldynamics.com for the NEW system) Hes basically an expert on astral projection, and the methods in which to leave the body, the NEW system is a simple and practical way of working with the bodies energy.

I played with it for a while and started having amazing experiences as i was falling asleep, flashing colours, otherworldly images, flying through tunnels.. all symptoms of detaching the consciousness from the body. But I also became highly sensitive and 'psychic' during this time and it was definatly to do with the NEW system.

that and taking magic mushrooms.

[thirdwave]

I had always been spiritually aware.... and was very perceptive... but I began to go through a long faze of feeling my self get numb... loosing touch of what had always inspired me.... funny enough around the time of 9/11 and onwards...

When One day I saw a UFO DVD in WHS for £2 in the bargain bin.... and i got it... when I told my mate about it he kept forwarding him links and websites on them.... then stuff on 9/11 where i was learning all kinds of facts I was not aware of about 9/11.... then I started to get this obsessive urge to research the UFO thing and beyond....

I then started to find things that would resonate with how I have felt my whole life... and I started not to feel as numb as i had been.... felt like I have been slapped in the face.... I then went on to have an amazing expirience when I was in bed in the middle of the night, with a bright flash of light in my head, waking me up.... to put it short. And that seemed to just fill my head with all kinds of stuff... I would just not shut up about spirituality and "matter"... my friends though i was losing the plot as i was just obsessed with it and would just start talking about it in the middle of a convo... I still do it a bit although am a bit more aware now..

this is when David Icke interested me as i could totally see where he was coming from... and he started to just put everything into perspective... from there I learnt more and more from other people about what's going on today and have just felt like I have been peeling back my skins ever since

[samkinison75]

Well, I noticed even more so when I think about it, that it was about 2 years ago perhaps. Funny it is how when I remember back on it that I just came across Tales from the Timeloop. I read it and it was one of those things I didn't really take serious and I just put it back in my mind and never really thought about it. During the time, I was reading that book I was really hungover and awake on a Saturday morning and I came across the film 1984 which I decided to watch. This movie had such a negative effect on me and even intensified my hangover more. There was just something fucking negative about it and I never really realized it until within the last Month or so.

Around this time (mainly from 2005 through the end of 2006) or what have you I was also going through quite a signifigant change in my life too, in that sometime I had a bad breakup with my Girlfriend which led me to be extrememly messed up for about a month or two ending around November 2006. Then I got my own place in December of 2006 (which I never thought would work due to feeling like I would be lonely all the time). But having my own place really opened up the perspective of life for me quite a bit. I also started to realize even more that I was in a much more better mood then I had ever been previously. I met a nice girl in May and we have been together ever since and after being involved in research of UFO, Metaphysics, Quantum Physics, Freemasonry, Secret Societies, The Paranormal Etc. I found myself somehow coming across David Icke a few months ago again and starting reading "The David Icke guide to the Global Conspiracy and how to end it" and then wallah, it was like I began to notice this immense strong energy of what you might call "awareness" in that the more I read the more I started to realize how much I have opened up to myself.

I began to think that hmm......maybe it started when reading Tales from the Timeloop and I just never realized it. But man, since reading this new book my awareness increased and was just taking off like crazy, a bit like as if the infinite consciousness found its way in and was just flowing inside me all over. Ya, see I have for the longest time thought of this world as being more complex than say Religions or Science always said it was.

I do remember being a little kid and wondering, what if this world is like some video game and we are but a simulation of sorts. This is a lot like if not exactly how David describes what the Infinite does as if playing a simulated game and that is life. Then you die and the game is over and Infinite life resumes as it was. This makes a lot of sense to me and is quite clear and rational. I mean after all there is infinite possibilities out there as extreme and vast as that is. It really isn't that hard to see. Thats the awakening came to be i guess you could say.

[coshh]

I have had many gestalt shifts in my life. To be honest I am not sure how they happened. Each felt like an "awakening" of sorts, but its happened so many times now I don't think there is any more truth in the before state than the after.

[deathcultreject]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

By accident.

I resented it.

But not as much as people who resented the recognition it got me amongst psychics and magicians etc. When I didn't know what the fuck was going on.

I wanted to be a punk and an activist, that's all.

I'd astrally projected, and no one listened, so I got drawn into conversations about Carlos Castaneda and Eastern energy systems with a selfish manipulative bastard who was also a freemason's adopted son.

He was jealous. He made everyone's life go downhill.

One morning I could see fairies.

I read Carlos Castaneda.

I spent six weeks under the influence of LSD mixed with mescaline, often spent doing yoga breathing on a swing in a playground, concentrating on pure 'intent' at sunrise.

One day, the day broke and so did I.

No one knew what to do with me. I was ashamed.

Too spiritual to be an anarchist. Too anarchic to be religious.

All I knew was I needed explainations beyond anything I knew how to know, and I fucking hated authority, and I hated selfish manipulative bastards.

I would walk past strangers in the steet, and their emotions and feelings would blow me off course like a little boat with a big sail.

Where there used to be self, where I expected to feel a sense of a soul, there was . . .

. . . I felt heart raped by everyone around me.

The selfish manipulative bastard turned against me, and tried to tell everyone how they should treat me.

He came after me with his old head games. I knocked the board over, and he cracked up.

My Rastafarian friends still cared about me. I had only been close to one of them before I broke. They liked to get stoned and read the bible and talk about it.

I spent two years recovering, trying to work out what was real and what was madness, but I understood the terms wrongly.

I tricked my friend's best friend out of a coma.

I went to the 2nd London poll tax riot in that state.

Someone hit me with their riot shild.

I turned around and glared at them.

We met eyes.

He jumped back and attacked someone behind him cowering. Slamed into a wall at the tube station.

They overtook me.

Some people behind their line were breaking down and gibbering.
All personality and dignity removed.

I followed the direction, back on the other side of the T.S.G.

Not a scratch.

I ended up back in the right squat, and then the right bus. Not bad for a village boy.

Rioting was my second childhood.

I taught myself to talk again by listening to radio 4.

I looked into shamanism, but there wasn't enough structure.

I ended up with ritual magic, I learned cabala and tarot.

I had a language to comunicate, and after a while, when I read people's cards they were in awe of me.

I carried on learning.

I went along with it, and played shaman.

I was in my 20s and in some ways still trying learn how to who to know who my real friends were.

I liked sex, alcohol, and philosophy. I was awed by how many wonderful people stuck by me, and I learned to know the limits of some of my friends.

I learned to know which friends were worth protecting.

A spaced out village boy in a big city, with no Welsh accent any more.

I started writing.

I gradualy merged back in, and learned to live whatever life was there.

That was years ago.

Now I'm back in Wales again, surviver from the road protests as well, these days, but that's another story.

I'm still writing.

[drael]

One day, the day broke and so did I.

No one knew what to do with me. I was ashamed.

Too spiritual to be an anarchist. Too anarchic to be religious.

Nicely expressed :) Each wave of awakening puts u more at odds with the world. And u do feel "wrong" for awhile because of that. Sitting meditating like that is pretty hardcore! U must have been determined. Interesting story, thanks for sharing....

I ended up in a mental hospital for awhile during my awakening. My family didnt know how to deal with my visions etc. It was like being at the cold front of the reality war. Us and them. I of course helped lots of people in there make sense of their experiences, where the doctors would just deny it. That in itself was a learning experience, because i saw how "my" methods helped, and theirs didnt. By the time i left, the "patients" were all treating me like a messiah and asking for me to help this person or that person. Instead of sitting around like a zombie, we would talk philosophy and in metaphor/mystic langauge and sing and dance, talk about signs and symbols in life, share and love - pure oneness at times, shared sacred meals, so close sometimes we were telepathic. I am writing a book about this way of talking/being.. Wow, that was very liberating now i think about it. It was like a glimpse of what the world could be like, as one.

But this is the kind of "reality experience denial" that we all have to face. We find it in all ideology, religious, cultural & scientific. I guess its like they say in the matrix "everyone can be an agent" (and mostly, they all are, even the ones i love)

I hope one day, we can all stand together and say - "no, enough this is our experience"!

[deathcultreject]

I ended up in a mental hospital for awhile during my awakening. My family didnt know how to deal with my visions etc. It was like being at the cold front of the reality war. Us and them. I of course helped lots of people in there make sense of their experiences, where the doctors would just deny it. That in itself was a learning experience, because i saw how "my" methods helped, and theirs didnt. By the time i left, the "patients" were all treating me like a messiah and asking for me to help this person or that person. Instead of sitting around like a zombie, we would talk philosophy and in metaphor/mystic langauge and sing and dance, talk about signs and symbols in life, share and love - pure oneness at times, shared sacred meals, so close sometimes we were telepathic. I am writing a book about this way of talking/being.. Wow, that was very liberating now i think about it. It was like a glimpse of what the world could be like, as one.



All the things you did right, all the things you did well.

Awesome!

Don't let anyone take that away from you.

[infin8_possibility]

After 9/11, I said to a friend in jest, "I bet Bush blew up the towers for an excuse to invade Iraq".

I later stumbled across Loose Change and F**k me how right I was...

Then the lies just became so much more easy to clock.

[danster82]

There you go again! Speaking for me!
I do not know "this to be true."

You know precious little about what I know, if anything,
and nothing about whether I am "awake" or not!

I guess I was considering awake to be the Buddah or the Jesus type awake
and in that sense I dont beleive people are at that stage and even if they replied to me saying how could you possibly know i might be and so on and so on I will still maintain that they are most likely not.

Its a good time to slay the ego though look at your response its ego in defense mode.

If you had replied with "Maybe im not awake" then I may have thought "shit maybe he was awake"

[drael]

All the things you did right, all the things you did well.

Awesome!

Don't let anyone take that away from you.

Thank you freind :)

[phildee3]

I guess I was considering awake to be the Buddah or the Jesus type awake



So was I.



and in that sense I dont beleive people are at that stage

I will still maintain that they are most likely not.



Believe?
Most likely...??
This is very different than your previous claim to know!



Its a good time to slay the ego



It's never a good time to kill an ego,
unless you're an MK ultra operative!

[edit]

So was I.




It's never a good time to kill an ego,
unless you're an MK ultra operative!

what is ego!!!!!!!!!!!?
you are stupid, man!!

[edit]

Boney M - Rasputin - YouTube

[phildee3]

what is ego!!!!!!!!!!!?



The individual self.
Pesonality.
That which contains consciousness.
That which wakes up in the sense that we have been talking about awakening!

[edit]

The individual self.
Pesonality.
That which contains consciousness.
That which wakes up in the sense that we have been talking about awakening!
so whats the awakening
isnt it death as well
everybody dies but the 'one' who collects them all - the so called - rasputin - isnt it ?
they become 'them/him '

[phildee3]

so whats the awakening
isnt it death as well



It is;
but of the id,
not the ego.

(sorry I'm so stupid, - I went to college :)).

[edit]

the id there is the only ego in egsistence in the whole universe now
no-one-s-else

[edit]

yeah.. ye may say - it (id) has shades
different ones
too
k

[cyberdaemon]

I still dont believe im spiritually awaken :/

[lost_in_translation]

Being a pawn of the US government woke me up.lacin up my combat boots and going into combat. being taught to hate people I never knew and not being able to do it. actualy seeing acts of terror in person and not just on tv. it kinda puts life into perspective.

[fromthatshow]

If we were truly awake from the illusion we wouldn't still be here :)

[phildee3]

If we were truly awake from the illusion we wouldn't still be here :)



Maybe we're not :) :)

[drael]

If we were truly awake from the illusion we wouldn't still be here

If we were truely awake from the illusion, 'we' wouldnt use a 'we' identity concept ;) or a place concept !

Where is here? What is u?

:)

[rossus]

i'm still asleep like a sheep.
mehehehe

http://glitterdiscobaby.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/sheep.jpg

[lost_in_translation]

If we were truly awake from the illusion we wouldn't still be here :)

well put. But atleast we can see whats going on around us. thats better than 80 percent of the population..

[monkyies]

foolish to say that you wouldn't be here. you are here now, awakening. if you are awakened you are still here, until you die. that is if you are talking about real awakening, but none of you have done that.

[lost_in_translation]

I think what some of the people in here mean by "waking up" is the fact that they are searching for the truth. the phrase waking up has different meanings to us all .some think it means dying and moving to the 4th dimension , some feel waking up is done here on earth to help us through this illusion. to tell somone that they are not awake is.. well its wrong.. this is suspose to be about us as finding our own way.. Im not the type to look at a few websites then magicly know it all. then post the links to prove my theories. I am awake. plain and simple. I think the ones still asleep are the ones that are content with this game of life

[citroen999]

hi

since 911 i thought that people from caves, jumped in planes and brought down the towers. I became a muslim hater because i watched sky news all the time.

Then one tuesday (my normal day off for the last 8 years) i was surfing around on youtube when i thought to myself that i hadnt seen the 911 plane crashes and collapse for ages and i toyed with idea of watching it again, before i typed in the search box i had a bit of a guilty feeling inside because people had died and i felt like a ghoul, but i went ahead. When the results popped up i saw "september clues" and thought look at this shit more Bush bashers and conspiracy nuts and i really thought about not watching it but yet again something inside told me to watch it.

About 1 min into it and i was thinking "hmmm this is interesting" and 10 mins into it and my jaw is on the floor. So at this point i'm hooked, i watched tons of 911 truth vids all that day, i went to bed and could not sleep.

The next day i watched loose change 2nd edition and i start looking at new world order vids on youtube, then masonic vids, then i find myself looking at bilderberg clips, endgame and terrorstorm. Next came Zeitgiest which blew my brains, the religion part and federal reserve sections took me to new level.


Tonight i have been watching Jordan Maxwell stuff on youtube and i am amazed by his knowledge.

I have took 4 people at work on the same route i took and they have gone from being totally unaware to starting to ask questions..

I am now awake and my tv hardly gets any of my attention!!

[marmadukehussy]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

lsd worked for me:D

[drael]

foolish to say that you wouldn't be here. you are here now, awakening. if you are awakened you are still here, until you die. that is if you are talking about real awakening, but none of you have done that.

Yes, much confusion. But the breadtrail is there to be followed, and the more of us are up then better we can make the trail/info :) its prolly time we started to deal with all this literal talk of dimension changing its a nice hook, but like all hooks can be misleading when the mode is sleeping.

lsd worked for me

Thats certainly one good starter method ;) Mana from heaven.

Hey heres a little macarbe awakening humour - HELLOOOO ANYONE OUT THERE!!!!???? IS ANYBODY HOME???? DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND SPEAK MY LANGUAGE? ;)

[cyberdaemon]

foolish to say that you wouldn't be here. you are here now, awakening. if you are awakened you are still here, until you die. that is if you are talking about real awakening, but none of you have done that.

If you really "awake" , woulnt you actually stop being a human and are no longer bound by elements like death and so... Because if you are still bound to the laws and limits of this universe , you are not really awake.

[saab1981]

It all started when I googled some info on the Mars 'face' about 18 months ago- a subject that fascinated me greatly (along with the 'bible-ufo' theory, JFK assassination, and UFOs in general). The links on various sites I visited led me all over the place - to various conspiracy sites, and that's how I began to awaken to things more. I feel as if my mind has been opened greatly, though I still feel I am very much a 'rookie' at this stage. My only wish is that I could get my partner to be into this with me too, but she thinks I'm fairly mad! (in an affectionate way...:p)

Since then, I have displayed almost all of the symptoms of 'the awakening' listed on the sticky, and even started to sense people's auras over them (shape and colours). It's strange, but I often feel I am getting assistance from 'outside' sources, and occasionally led to various subjects in order to 'download' information (i.e. JFK, illuminati, Ancient Astronaut theory etc).

[beldazar]

hi saab, i have the same feeling when you mention being led onto certain sites to see certain info, I had that right in the beginning, i didnt go "looking" for any of this, it came looking for me! Ive been trying to see auras but no luck yet :D

[phildee3]

If you really "awake" , woulnt you actually stop being a human and are no longer bound by elements like death and so... Because if you are still bound to the laws and limits of this universe , you are not really awake.



It is the conciousness that awakens.

Only the body is bound by death, etc.

One does not have to die to awaken.

The very purpose of life is to awaken whilst alive.

[saab1981]

hi saab, i have the same feeling when you mention being led onto certain sites to see certain info, I had that right in the beginning, i didnt go "looking" for any of this, it came looking for me! Ive been trying to see auras but no luck yet :D

Hi beldazar, I am sure it will come with time! It is a strange feeling, and it is odd how information just 'comes' to you. Awakening completely changes your outlook on life - everyday tasks become tedious and almost unbearable! I guess at times it can feel quite lonely if none of your immediate family, friends or colleagues is on the same wavelength. It's a good job we have this forum!

[beldazar]

I most definitely second that! Its just as well im used to being alone. My neice came round last night and shes very interested in whats going on and has said that she also has probs talking about it to others but it seems like the majority of people waking up are younger than me (im 41) Its ok tho, as ive said before, i only really got into this last october so there is plenty of time for others to wake up too :)

[amethyst]

It all started when I googled some info on the Mars 'face' about 18 months ago- a subject that fascinated me greatly (along with the 'bible-ufo' theory, JFK assassination, and UFOs in general). The links on various sites I visited led me all over the place - to various conspiracy sites, and that's how I began to awaken to things more. I feel as if my mind has been opened greatly, though I still feel I am very much a 'rookie' at this stage. My only wish is that I could get my partner to be into this with me too, but she thinks I'm fairly mad! (in an affectionate way...:p)

Since then, I have displayed almost all of the symptoms of 'the awakening' listed on the sticky, and even started to sense people's auras over them (shape and colours). It's strange, but I often feel I am getting assistance from 'outside' sources, and occasionally led to various subjects in order to 'download' information (i.e. JFK, illuminati, Ancient Astronaut theory etc).

Oh yeah, that Mar's/Cydonia connection is fascinating!

hi saab, i have the same feeling when you mention being led onto certain sites to see certain info, I had that right in the beginning, i didnt go "looking" for any of this, it came looking for me! Ive been trying to see auras but no luck yet

I know what you mean beldazar ;)

[cafetimes1991]

For Christmas (2007), my brother got me the classic Nineteen Eighty-Four. I loved it, and did a book review on it for school, but never really made the same conspiracy-like connection with the modern world. Then, in February (2008) I got Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster from my local library. I was engrossed by it on my way home on the school bus. Reading that book was a life-changing experience.

[rhydra]

I "awakened" in probably a different way to most after seeing something during a meditation and attempt at astral projection. That something was me in my true form. Ever since I have had dreams and "flashbacks" which made me realise that there was more than this life, birth and ultimate death, after there was more than a "switch off," a nothingness. I realised who and what I was.

[illuminati downfall]

I can think clearly of a couple of things that really led to my waking up and seeing things for what they were. By no means do I believe that these were simply coincidence either,. Instead I think I was meant to learn these things at that time. About two and a half years ago, I was traveling and was out on Vancouver island. While walking around in Victoria, simply looking about in the stores and enjoying the time alone, a young man got my attention on the sidewalk. He asked me what I thought of 9-11 and I said of course that it was sad. He said that he and his friends, who were busy handing out flyers, thought for sure it was an inside job. Like the naive and clueless person I was, I took the flyer he offered me and walked away, baffled that anyone could think the US would blow up their own towers. I sort of considered though on some level that it might be possible. last year I was visiting with a couple I am friends with and the one suddenly ashed right out of the blue if I had heard anything about the plans for a one world government. He really wanted me to see a documentary video he had found about this and so I watched it. We ended up in a bit of a verbal scrap because I really didn't take it seriously at the time. again though, I some how felt moved to consider that idea as well. The more i looked into both of these theories, the more it all made sense. That and so much else I have learned about in the last year. Wow. :eek:

[cafetimes1991]

Bump.

[mrindigo]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

For me it was a traumatic experience at a very young age which I won't go into. I think my conscious mind was jump started as a survival mechanism. From there my experiences in life were... interesting to say the least. I was in denial of it for a long time and finally started to accept who I was and what I was about, around the age of 17 - 18. That didn't really happen until I had random people telling me things I was trying to avoid to blend in. I was pretty non confrontational and just wanted to coast through life, but apparently my course through life wasn't intended for that. :D


I'd like to add something as well. I think the whole sleep vs awaken thing is subject to opinion. We all experience life in our own ways, so I believe there is no set mold for what it is to be aware/awake. I'll also say that I personally respect other people's choice to remain 'asleep', as not all minds are ready for such a leap. Well all face our own personal awakening and truths when the time is right for us, not when someone else decides this. :)

[nectars]

Got into all this stuff when I was about 6(ish) -though paranormal/supernatural stuff around the age of 3-4 after my first "experience". Got heavily into deep spiritual/occult/truth/reality/consciousness research & practice after a nervous breakdown at 29. I'm now 33.

[cafetimes1991]

Got into all this stuff when I was about 6(ish) -though paranormal/supernatural stuff around the age of 3-4 after my first "experience". I'm now 33.

I was interested in UFOs before conspiracies as well. But I never made the connection with conspiracies earlier, unfortunately.

[fekdemasons]

I started having acupuncture for depression. It clears energy pathways.

It cleared a lot of crap away and helped me start to make sense of things.

I realised the route cause of my depression was the realisation there was something more to life than this but that I couldn't fathom it .

Still not there but living in hope.

[margaretr]

I developed chronic fatigue and took charge of my own cure with food supplements. As my body detoxed and began to function properly my five senses became sharper. I live alone and due to the need to sleep 2 hours in every 4, I 'hibernated' last winter, with very little social contact.
These long spells alone began to be my preferred mode of living.
I suppose that is the 'self reliance' that is part of the awakening.
I am half way to being well now and have an inner calm which I never had before. Also I find that I seem incapable of anger....which is quite a lovely way to be.

[wakeuptime]

Understanding 9-11 was an inside job really woke me up. Then when Lehman Brothers fell I knew it was even bigger than I thought. I felt they were manipulating everything. Many thanks to both David Icke and Alex Jones.

[ph0neyprophet]

I had a vision, made a prophecy, saw god, got help.

Help worked, but I still believe I saw God and now people are starting to say I'm John Lennon re-incarnated.

[lordzoma]

I saw a UFO when I was 6 but nobody believed me, so I have been questioning everything ever since.

[white horse]

Realising 911 was an inside job ignited what was already there. That woke me up to the 'real world'... :eek:

[magemasher]

e and weed started my awakinin, me and a few mates in a park on a hot may day, i had an amazin feeling of oneness and was able to look at the sun for btween 10 20 seconds naked eye as well and my vision is perfect to this day. try doin that with out drugs. the weird thing is wen lookin at the sun it had the pepsi coke sign on it lol. mustv been the gear but who knows lol. two years on iv still got a long way to go b4 im there

[jaggysnake]

about 4 years ago after watching Loose Change

you do realise loose change started off as a fictional plot, and they don't have any expertise in anything they are claiming.

[unusual_suspect]

I think it was taking far to many drugs and going to illegal raves about 14 years ago :o

[mike59271]

No one single event i suppose but just perpetual curiosity that led me deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole. I figure its because Ive always had this sense that things were not the way they were supposed to be. That people weren't supposed to be so cruel to each other and that what i wear doesn't actually amount to anything. I suppose it was my defiance to what other people considered to be important or acceptable that led me to find out what the root of their perceptions were. I remember though that it definitely happened 1-2 years after 911. That definitely was a spark in regards to the NWO and all those topics but i think my main interest is consciousness where "What the Bleep" played a crucial role. Now Ive expanded my perceptions of art and have been working hand in hand with my musical progression and my spiritual awakening and have come to find alot of truth about alot of things from politics to religion to science etc...I guess i am in debt to human curiosity and intuition. Sweet.

[konnster]

I was always awake to an extend but there came a time I decided I wasn´t going to be mind controlled anymore by the system...for the last 4 years I have been recovering and things get clearer by the day :P

[schism86]

my spanish teacher getting off topic in class (aka talking for 70 minutes about the government)
i need to thank him someday. :D

[nectars]

how did you awaken?

Cant remember regarding the type of "Awakening" your refering to. I've been into this stuff since I was about 6yo, though paranormal/supernatural interests started at the age of 3. I'm 33 now.

[manxboz]

I always loved conspicarys, my Dad had loads of vids on area 51, aliens, ufos and much more. But it really wasn't until a few years ago that i found the Children of the Matrix and then i started to become awake now i am researching and everything.

[margaretr]

A friend who knows I am curing myself of Chronic Fatigue, by using vitamin therapy, directed me to The Concious Media Network to view an interview with Raymond Francis.

I watched most of the other interviews on that site, and my quest for knowledge is unstoppable :D

I am retired so spend all day and sometimes all night at my PC.
No telly (boring stuff anyway) - and house cleaning neglected.

[finn234]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

well what woke me up was a number of things:

1. having an horrific time growing up - realising how evil the world and people can be.

2. being sat in college one day when one of my mates comes in saying 'oh everyone, you gotta watch this film 'loose change', its awesome! the government did 9/11'

3. after watching loose change i did some research on the iraq war on the internet and came across alex jones' stuff, etc, etc, and continued to fall deeper into the rabbit hole...

4. then, the final leap, reading david ickes 'guide to the global conspiracy' that just unlocked my mind one billion times what it was before.


the nature of reality stuff that icke talks about woke me up most of all. totally literally changed my life.

it also seems that loose change has woken a hell of a lot of people up.

[pegcityevolve]

About six months ago, started seeing some interesting videos on youtube. Then plenty of shrooms trips, and just recently, very potent LSD. The LSD was purple, had pyramids, eyes, all the Illuminati symbology.

[nowhere]

Always felt like I was dropped off here on Earth/ cut off from somewhere amazing, since a child. Was visited by a Reptilian being (along with other completely different ET races that stood behind him) at 4 years of age. We telepathically communicated, but don't remember about what. Never thought of the incident again. At 14 years old, 9/11 happened, watched the news that day at school and "just knew" our government/ different forces were behind it. 3 years later, prayed one night in despair to make sense of this existence and what the future of this world will be. Next day, a David Icke book fell into my lap. To be honest, I was greatly relieved to read all that I had felt but could not make sense of. Began to have spiritual experiences as soon as I started to read/remember all that David wrote about. Completely rearranged my priorities in life. It's been a long 4 years to say the least! :)

[solarwindspirit]

I awakened at the age of three with my visions of holographic realities
hmmmm remember having a tug a war contest with one of my visions
with my popcorn bowl I mean it This was War
then I looked down . . .and cried because all the popcorn was gone
who ate it I wondered how it could just dissappear?. .
then mom and dad walked in and I told them my story. . .and they roared with laughter
it didn't help my feelings any
moral of the story is
if you have just a kernal of truth
you're alright

[davew]

- Don't watch TV
- Unattach yourself from the crap we are fed each day in the MSM
- Be aware of what is happening around you
- Don't take for granted what you are told by the 'authorities'
- Think for yourself
- Look deeply into things, why did it happen, what does it mean
- Read, watch and listen

Things will happen from here on ...
:)

[chica314]

Bill Hicks. Definitely an awakened man. It's really too bad he's not around anymore, I would have loved to hear what he thought about all the crap going on today. All of the stuff he said about Billy Ray Cyrus and George Bush Sr. can be directly applied to Miley Cyrus and George W. Bush. It's uncanny, really. Plus, his LSD/shroom trip experiences open up your eyes without even having to do drugs. From there, I watched David Icke/Alex Collier videos on youtube, and ta-da! Here I am today.

[armoured_amazon]

Welcome, one and all :)

[white horse]

- Don't watch TV
- Unattach yourself from the crap we are fed each day in the MSM
- Be aware of what is happening around you
- Don't take for granted what you are told by the 'authorities'
- Think for yourself
- Look deeply into things, why did it happen, what does it mean
- Read, watch and listen

Things will happen from here on ...
:)

Totallt spot on dude! :)

(I would just add tho);
- Look deeply into things, why did it happen, what does it mean, who benefited?

[loderlive]

Always felt like I was dropped off here on Earth/ cut off from somewhere amazing, since a child. Was visited by a Reptilian being (along with other completely different ET races that stood behind him) at 4 years of age. We telepathically communicated, but don't remember about what. Never thought of the incident again. At 14 years old, 9/11 happened, watched the news that day at school and "just knew" our government/ different forces were behind it. 3 years later, prayed one night in despair to make sense of this existence and what the future of this world will be. Next day, a David Icke book fell into my lap. To be honest, I was greatly relieved to read all that I had felt but could not make sense of. Began to have spiritual experiences as soon as I started to read/remember all that David wrote about. Completely rearranged my priorities in life. It's been a long 4 years to say the least! :)

Lots of love.

[listener]

I think what some of the people in here mean by "waking up" is the fact that they are searching for the truth. the phrase waking up has different meanings to us all .some think it means dying and moving to the 4th dimension , some feel waking up is done here on earth to help us through this illusion. to tell somone that they are not awake is.. well its wrong.. this is suspose to be about us as finding our own way.. Im not the type to look at a few websites then magicly know it all. then post the links to prove my theories. I am awake. plain and simple. I think the ones still asleep are the ones that are content with this game of life

I like this . alot !
So long as we keep asking questions and don't dismiss anything then we are doing OK !

The purpose of life is a life of purpose.

[listener]

Always felt like I was dropped off here on Earth/ cut off from somewhere amazing, since a child. Was visited by a Reptilian being (along with other completely different ET races that stood behind him) at 4 years of age. We telepathically communicated, but don't remember about what. Never thought of the incident again. At 14 years old, 9/11 happened, watched the news that day at school and "just knew" our government/ different forces were behind it. 3 years later, prayed one night in despair to make sense of this existence and what the future of this world will be. Next day, a David Icke book fell into my lap. To be honest, I was greatly relieved to read all that I had felt but could not make sense of. Began to have spiritual experiences as soon as I started to read/remember all that David wrote about. Completely rearranged my priorities in life. It's been a long 4 years to say the least! :)


Can sooo relate to feeling/knowing I had been dropped here , taken from somewhere amazing . My earliest memories at the age of two. I recall so clearly thinking why are these people like this. I was referring to my parents.
Throughout my life with them I have never felt I was theres or them mine! If that makes sense! Been a fish out of water my entire life and long at times to go home. The wait will be worth it I know!:)

[wasd]

It started when a friend that told me about zeitgeist. I watched all zeitgeist movies and loved them and then I knew that something was wrong and showed zeitgeist to more friends. After a few weeks one of those friends linked Alex Jones: Question Your Reality and I started listening to his radio show and watched obama deception and his other movies. About a month ago David Icke was on his show about the reptilian brain and that was one of my favorite shows. Then a few weeks later i stumbled upon David Ickes 6 hour presentation "Beyond the cutting edge" on blip.tv and without really knowing what it was i watched it. And it was awesome. I never liked religion but I've had doubts about spirituality and David Icke explained it so good. So far I've only had a few lucid dreams but i will continue my journey :)

[lady_oblivion]

I had my spirtual awakening through using kundalini. By going through the experience you connect to the entire universe and its flow of energy. A truely amazing thing to do but i only recomend this to people who are strong of mind and in full control as the first time you do it, its truely overwhelming.

[mikecroley]

This is my awakening :

http://mikecroley.110mb.com/

[sensitivesoul]

I would have to say my own humiliation :p. What I've been through in my life has made me more sensitive then some people cause of teasing etc. Not to mention a very good friend helped me and is still helping me to realise just how messed up everything is and what to do about it... though me and him still have a whole lotta questions ;) .

[johnnykwango]

Had a weird experience called Automatic Writing. Saw a clairvoyant/medium/spiritualist who explained it to me and then gave me a pretty damn accurate reading. Still wasn't 100% sure of what was going on. Since had 3 more readings which have been so accurate it sorta scared me. 95% of predictions have came true so far.....as for the other 5% there's time.

Oh and someone channelled my dead father. It was alarmingly convincing.

Read a lot of books, watched some documentaries, met some amazing people and now feel like my eyes are wide open. Stuff keeps happening which, if coincidence, is of the mind-boggling variety.

[flatseven]

In my puberty epilepsy appeared and I felt desperate to graduate in school. The frequency of seizures increased and I missed a lot of lessons. Now I am given medicine (although I don't trust any chemicals at all) and the seizures are almost reduced to 0 every year by now. But I think it isn't just the medicine, it is more the way I live now: Trying to keep negative emotions away like anger, fear and hate. I realized, that most of those emotions actually caused my seizures, as I think back.

The last part of the puzzle was filled in, when I started to get into conspiracy theories. It doesn't matter for me, if this is all right. What matters is, that it can't ever be healthy for anyone to express negative vibrations. So there you have another living proof for this philosophy. Thanks to David Icke! :D

[decode reality]

In 1989, a friend put the book, 'Malcolm X On Afro American History' in my hands. It completely hit me for six. Even though it dated from 1965, it was relevant to my time. It was as though someone had flicked on a light switch in a dark room.

[the_enlightened]

I never really "awakened", I've always been "awake". Since a very young age, I'd like to say 9 years old, I've always been curious about life in general, extraterrestrials, and would read about ancient Egyptian civilization for reasons unknown to me. I never felt like I could relate to my peers, so I spent most of my time alone, reading, looking up at the sky thinking "I wonder what else is out there?" I've always had this strong feeling that I do not belong here, that my "home" is somewhere else. That I was placed here to do something important. I know this sounds ludicrous, I've certainly always thought so, but it's nothing but the absolute honest truth. My parents never discouraged my thoughts and feelings, or else I might not have taken them to the next level. I've been diagnosed with ADD, but I am able to concentrate when I want to. Homework was always a bore to me, I never did it. I found it easier to learn by myself. I play a number of instruments, including piano, violin, and guitar. Draw, write, sing. I've never read any of David Icke's works, the 9/11 thing never really had any effect on me. I've just always felt like I was different. :)

[karenxwearsxprada]

I was looking into the newage stuff

[finn234]

I had my spirtual awakening through using kundalini. By going through the experience you connect to the entire universe and its flow of energy. A truely amazing thing to do but i only recomend this to people who are strong of mind and in full control as the first time you do it, its truely overwhelming.

hi, i was just wondering what you meant by 'kundalini working' so i randomly googled 'kundalini experience', and i found this list of symptoms:

# Energy rushes or immense electricity circulating the body
# Itching, vibrating, prickling, tingling, stinging or crawling sensations
# Intense heat or cold
# Involuntary bodily movements (occur more often during meditation, rest or sleep): jerking, tremors, shaking; feeling an inner force pushing one into postures or moving one's body in unusual ways. (May be misdiagnosed as epilepsy, restless legs syndrome (RLS), or PLMD.)
# Alterations in eating and sleeping patterns
# Episodes of extreme hyperactivity or, conversely, overwhelming fatigue (some CFS victims are experiencing Kundalini awakening)
# Intensified or diminished sexual desires
# Headaches, pressures within the skull
# Racing heartbeat, pains in the chest
# Digestive system problems
# Numbness or pain in the limbs (particularly the left foot and leg)
# Pains and blockages anywhere; often in the back and neck (Many cases of FMS are Kundalini-related.)
# Emotional outbursts; rapid mood shifts; seemingly unprovoked or excessive episodes of grief, fear, rage, depression
# Spontaneous vocalizations (including laughing and weeping) -- are as unintentional and uncontrollable as hiccoughs
# Hearing an inner sound or sounds, classically described as a flute, drum, waterfall, birds singing, bees buzzing but which may also sound like roaring, whooshing, or thunderous noises or like ringing in the ears.
# Mental confusion; difficulty concentrating

http://home.planet.nl/~brouw724/kundalini.html

and i have experianced every single bloody one of those symptoms for a about 6/7 years now, and to be honest it has been absolutely nightmarish.

i was wondering, what exactly do you mean by 'working kundalini'? it seems like its something i need to know about. i cant carry on with those supposed symptoms of 'kundalini activiation' for much longer or im going to go insane.

[aee02]

NDE's are my main interest. My Grandfather had one when I was 11. It made an impact on the rest of my life. This is going to sound morbid and I don't mean it that way, but in the last few years when I was doing chaplaincy type work, I visited with many who were dying. I don't know if it was my initial belief in the beyond' or if something manifested from one of those experiences but I started to have empathic abilities. I hate to say that word-empath-because it perceives myself as "much ado about myself" but its the closest definition I have been able to acquire.

The conspiracy side came from my Mom. She was always into the end times' stuff, albeit the conservative viewpoint, but some of it rubbed off on me.

It seems pieces to a bigger puzzle are beginning to fit.

There are many things-that are "coincidences" that have led me here. How I learned about David Icke? Honestly, I was in a book store in the spiritual section looking for something but not sure what, when this stranger handed me one of his books. Very odd. Oh well, odd-that's me I suppose.

Glad to be here!:)

[gushen]

I think that a lot of people are missing the fact that we are still living in a dream regardless of how lucid we are. I think that we only really wake up once this cycle of existence ends, and individually we regain full memory of who we are, and then perhaps we choose the next adventure. There is plenty of information out there pointing to the fact that some individuals on this planet are not only 'human', and are indeed participating in Earth's game with great part of their abilities and memories blocked temporarily .

[trevvytrev23]

I was 'lucky' enough to win tickets to the Live 8 concert , held on the 2nd of July 2005. About two thirds of the way through I felt sort of, disconnected for a moment or so and looked out on to the huge crowds. The event was sponsored by AOL, and I spotted dozens of logos belonging to the company, pyramid-shaped with an all-seeing-eye in the centre.

"Something's going to happen.", I said to my partner. I wasn't specific enough for him to pay much attention but I was overwhelmed with a feeling that something really bad was going to happen and this concert was to whip everyone up prior to it happening. Two days later, London won the bid to host the 2012 Olympics, the day after that; 7/7 happened. It was all too pat.

[cafetimes1991]

^ Excellent post ^

[iwanttruth]

I think it's quite amazing how each of us have and are awakening. My awakening started back in 2003 with my experiences with the paranormal. From there it became and interest in astral projection for a good few years then, crytals, chakras and etc building up finally towards the Illuminati and 2012 and all this. The best part is hardly anyone has influenced me. I strongly feel that those who are awakening at this time are the ones who are meant to be because the the vibrationally level they are operating on. I've heard something like only 99.8 % will awaken and it'll be up to the rset of us (you and I). Many aren't (including youngesters) due to the fact they have been brought up in a very materialistic background. I strongly feel this is why so many are so depressed when they shouldn't be because they have been spoilt. This has been carefully planned by the Illuminati but you know what?...............They've one force to reckon with...............it's US. Their arrognance is their weakness.

[nayan]

Around 3 years ago, it all started from when i exposed Jay-Z's music and subliminal messages throughout the hip-hop culture. I wouldn't have not known David Icke if it wasn't for my humanities teacher. Then it went into religion and so on. Alot of people think i'm brainwashed or something, i don't buy that in.

I'm glad you brought this post, thanks paganus

[cafetimes1991]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[darkskyeye]

Plants to begin with .Seems like a long time ago now. More than 20 years ago I think.

[oneup]

Interesting that a lot of people say psychoactives awakened them.
I think that's why they are illegal.
For me, the film zeitgeist did it.

[nayan]

Interesting that a lot of people say psychoactives awakened them.
I think that's why they are illegal.
For me, the film zeitgeist did it.

Yes, after watching zeitgeist. That changed alot. It summed up everything.

[bsmurph83]

short answer: reading the Holographic Universe about 7 years ago as a 19 y.o. not long after, i experienced infinite oneness (myself as infinity) and within a short while after that i had a friend take me by the hand and walk me upstairs to her bookcase. that's when i met mr. icke *grin*

downhill from there *chuckles*

[runciter]

london bombings, but i was slowly waking up earlier that year.

a "terrorist attack" during a g8 was exactly what they needed, i thought.

[redpill41]

When i suddenly discovered that the world was different in a real map based on true country size than the one i had been fed for twenty years .

It turns out the western countries even manipulate our perception of the world around us to make our countries look bigger !!!!:eek::eek:


http://www.newint.org/issue124/Images/petersprojection.jpg

[energi]

Stumbled upon The Biggest Secret and Infinite Love is the Only Truth in an alternative bookstore, tried them out (spent every waking h our reading TBS, got scared as fuck too lol) and got changed.

I've also been a hippie at heart and have had a interest in psychedelics from an early age as a starter.

[energi]

When i suddenly discovered that the world was different in a real map based on true country size than the one i had been fed for twenty years .

It turns out the western countries even manipulate our perception of the world around us to make our countries look bigger !!!!:eek::eek:


http://www.newint.org/issue124/Images/petersprojection.jpg

LOL you learn something new every day...

[adbasque]

Interesting that a lot of people say psychoactives awakened them.
I think that's why they are illegal.
For me, the film zeitgeist did it.

I personally have my reservations as far as Zeitgeist, something about it not right, I do not trust them.

For me it happened when I was about 15 or 16, I started to really think about this whole world and certain aspects of life that started me off.

I was asking questions, how come this world of ours been through so many wars and onflicts and yet people never learn from the past?

So I started looking into little things, My dad had a book called the "Black book" which I started to read and I started to see a little bit more clearer, I thought I was going mad, even my mates at the time when I talk to them about it, they weren't interested at all.

Until 1988 I watched the movie called "They Live" and from then on I was sure that I wasn't being paranoid.

It actually happened gradually, I started to see things, I didn't agree with, then I knew there must be some people who are pulling the strings.

So, I never stopped ever since, I heard about Bill cooper, David Icke, Alex Jones and many other people, some which I trust are genuine others I have my reservations about them.

People like Michael Tsarion, I have some doubts about him, I believe he is part of the problem rather than the solution.

Maybe some people here will disagree with me, but that's how I feel about him.

[charas]

A kundalini energy experience, an astral experience (or 3) and a whole heap of cannabis. :D

From there I was kind of going down the new age path and also was looking into ancient chinese and Indian medicine.

Later I discovered Icke and he showed me why I felt the world was wrong, and told me a lot of stuff that I already instinctively knew, and here I am still learning. :cool:

[saab1981]

I googled some info about the pyramids, and the theory that extra-terrestrials were involved with their creation. From there, I found the likes of Icke and so on, and so began an awakening. Up until then, I displayed, by and large, 'sheeple-ish' tendencies, but had always been a deep thinker my whole life, and never really fitted in with mainstream crap that is shoved down our throats night and day.

Sometimes, it can be a burden knowing what you know, but you have to remain as cheerful as you can and follow your own star. I don't inflict my beliefs and thoughts onto other people, if they are interested, then fair enough, but if they aren't, then so be it, I won't force the issue.
I continue to shun mainstream media too and the dreaded 'idiot box' (TV), save some comedy shows.

All the best. :)

[adbasque]

I googled some info about the pyramids, and the theory that extra-terrestrials were involved with their creation. From there, I found the likes of Icke and so on, and so began an awakening. Up until then, I displayed, by and large, 'sheeple-ish' tendencies, but had always been a deep thinker my whole life, and never really fitted in with mainstream crap that is shoved down our throats night and day.

Sometimes, it can be a burden knowing what you know, but you have to remain as cheerful as you can and follow your own star. I don't inflict my beliefs and thoughts onto other people, if they are interested, then fair enough, but if they aren't, then so be it, I won't force the issue.
I continue to shun mainstream media too and the dreaded 'idiot box' (TV), save some comedy shows.

All the best. :)

Good man (woman) :)
Sorry I don't know which gender lol

[orbit]

I find these types of post somewhat ridicules and somewhat self obsessive, what does awakened mean?

Imagine saying "I'm awakened"

[clint_giles]

an elder palestenian man who ran a local smoke shop in my home town of newmarket ontario back in 2003, told me about the many people who did not show up for work that day in the towers (mainly jewish bosses of major companies) this information he was getting from many friends and family back home and through out the middle eastern countries.

it all started from there.
to this day i owe this man alot,aswell with mr icke and alex jones,because of the smoke shop gentleman i found these 2 guys while surfing the net looking for more info about that dreadful day.

[siliconpsychosis]

For me it all began after taking my first LSD trip, which so profoundly changed me that I then spent all subsequent time trying to unravel exactly what happens to me on LSD, and the implications of these experiences.

On that basis I feel everyone should take LSD, or an equally potent hallucinogenic (not just mushrooms) atleast once in their lives.

[manxboz]

I was always kinda awake, always believeing in UFO's aliens and the like but it wasn't until i got my first Icke book (Children of the Matrix) that i actually started to wake up then last year i got a right kick up the arse when a higher power spoke to me and sent me on the quest i am on now.

[hoffy]

I met a guy called George when I was on holiday in the Phillippines who was in his 70s and had been part owner of one of the big Las Vegas Hotels during the mafia boomtime. He said to me 'read Tragedy and Hope, that's all you need to know'...so I ordered it. He also sent a little booklet on 911 to me when he got home (he was living in Mexico). He had been to court in the 80s to challenge his income tax and won - way ahead of the game. He knew some of Noam Chomsky's researchers as well. Very interesting guy and shone a lot of light on the world for me in a few short afternoons!

[analog]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..



In June 2006


I discoverd Youtube and searched for "passionate speeches" i found a video with a title saying something like "Alex Jones gives a passionate speech against the New World Order".

I was vaguely familiar with "NWO Conspiracy Theories" at that time but thought that it was mostly right-wing ultra-exagerated paranoid nonsense, i clicked on the video anway.

I saw a guy called Alex Jones giving a speech and breaking down about "how evil these bastards are" i thought, "this is interesting i need to know more".

I then typed in Alex Jones into the You tube search bar and watched a load Videos featuring Alex.


Most of the Video were about 9/11 being a Inside Job it resonated with me because i never could fully accept the official story of 9/11.

I found it very hard to take in 3 years ago as I had a concrete belief system that would take time to break down.

After listening to Alex Jones for a few months I then discoverd David Icke, i had heard about him a few years before and that he was a "Madman that thinks the queen is a Reptilian".

I started watching more and more of David Ickes seminars on Google Video and slowly became more awakend.

I would say it took me a good 2-3 years to throw off my old belief system.

[peace sells]

Hi,

Im a new member on here, my wake up call was late last year when for some reason i started looking for information/docs on 9/11 and i was shocked at what i found and its gone on from there.
I spent almost a week looking at various info and felt sick to the stomach at what i was looking at.
Ive just started reading Tales from the Time Loop and im really enjoying it.

Unfortunately my friends and family dont seem to agree though i will continue to send emails with info in the hope that they will at least look into things and keep an open mind.

LJ :)

[nayan]

Hi,

Im a new member on here, my wake up call was late last year when for some reason i started looking for information/docs on 9/11 and i was shocked at what i found and its gone on from there.
I spent almost a week looking at various info and felt sick to the stomach at what i was looking at.
Ive just started reading Tales from the Time Loop and im really enjoying it.

Unfortunately my friends and family dont seem to agree though i will continue to send emails with info in the hope that they will at least look into things and keep an open mind.

LJ :)

Welcome :)

My friends and family don't seem to get the point too, but hey, learn all you can and when you times comes, you can tell them what you learnt.

[clint_giles]

Hi,

Im a new member on here, my wake up call was late last year when for some reason i started looking for information/docs on 9/11 and i was shocked at what i found and its gone on from there.
I spent almost a week looking at various info and felt sick to the stomach at what i was looking at.
Ive just started reading Tales from the Time Loop and im really enjoying it.

Unfortunately my friends and family dont seem to agree though i will continue to send emails with info in the hope that they will at least look into things and keep an open mind.

LJ :)

your life just did a 360,hang on and enjoy the ride.

its for the better anyhow..
just continue to speak up and speak your mind with no worries or fear.

the sick to your stomach feeling unfortunately,will never leave until this is all said and done.
atleast for me anyhow
i have had that sick to my stomach feeling,going on 7 years now.

[triso]

Hi,

Im a new member on here, my wake up call was late last year when for some reason i started looking for information/docs on 9/11 and i was shocked at what i found and its gone on from there.
I spent almost a week looking at various info and felt sick to the stomach at what i was looking at.
Ive just started reading Tales from the Time Loop and im really enjoying it.

Unfortunately my friends and family dont seem to agree though i will continue to send emails with info in the hope that they will at least look into things and keep an open mind.

LJ :)

I guess 9/11 was a wake up call for a lot of people. I spose one positive thing came from that, shot themselves in the foot with that one didn't they. If friends & family arte meant to awaken also.. if they arent, does it matter? As long as they love and trust you, thats enough.

[peace sells]

Hi Nayan, Clint giles, Triso, thanks for the welcome :)

You are right about the 360, there is so much to take in and learn i wonder if i am ever going to be able to get my head around things.
Your right also about the sick feeling staying with you, im trying really hard to stay positive and send out positive vibes as i do not want to live the rest of my life in fear :)
I guess all i can do is keep reading, keep learning, enjoy each day and be thankful for friends and loved ones.

LJ :D

[clint_giles]

Hi Nayan, Clint giles, thanks for the welcome :)

You are right about the 360, there is so much to take in and learn i wonder if i am ever going to be able to get my head around things.
Your right also about the sick feeling staying with you, im trying really hard to stay positive and send out positive vibes as i do not want to live the rest of my life in fear :)
I guess all i can do is keep reading, keep learning, enjoy each day and be thankful for friends and loved ones.

LJ :D


thats all we can do..
fear has been with us since birth,now all we need to do is channel it for the better and make "them" fear us now....because we are on the path to knowing.

speak up ,without fear of others calling you nuts or a sicko or an idiot.
and fear no the guilt you family will try to impose on you..(mainly your mother,that has been her job since your birth) atleast my momzee anyhow.

im sad our relationship has took a turn for the worse(in her eyes) but it will be back to normal soon(when im not sure?,but soon i hope)

[peace sells]

thats all we can do..
fear has been with us since birth,now all we need to do is channel it for the better and make "them" fear us now....because we are on the path to knowing.

speak up ,without fear of others calling you nuts or a sicko or an idiot.
and fear no the guilt you family will try to impose on you..(mainly your mother,that has been her job since your birth) atleast my momzee anyhow.

im sad our relationship has took a turn for the worse(in her eyes) but it will be back to normal soon(when im not sure?,but soon i hope)


The one thing about waking up is that i feel like i have taken some control back and thats a good feeling :) You are right about speaking up without fear, i have had a few " she is nuts " looks but i just smile and continue and aim to carry on doing so

Im sorry to hear that your relationship with your mum has suffered, i hope that things improve very soon :)

LJ

[penguin]

just out of interest,what was the pivotal thing which finally caused you to wake-up? it may help others do the same..

I recklessly one evening took a large dose of MDMA, I spent the evening somewhere else!!

I learnt and I am still in this learning curve of what I call
"The 4 dimension brain wave"

1 "What can"
2 "What could"
3 "What has"
4 "What is"

All are one, yet they all are soo far apart that when they come together, they become "What will" (almost like a harmonic in a band of musicians).

If you fine tune this thought wave, then "What will" is the outcome.
The four mentioned above are the thought process on what we live on.

If you look at your walk of life as a blank path untill you step onto it, then you choose "What can" and "What could" happen, you know "what has" happend and "what is" happening, but you and only you can decide what does happen.

Hey!
Its your world, you do with it what you want. No one can tell you what to do, its your choice.
There is no truth or true awakening, there is only you and what is in your life.

I awoke and saw "What could" but now after seven months of searching and trying, I now see "What will" happen "What has" happend and always will, time after time after time.

And the real scary thing is.....
No one can stop it, because no one knows what to stop untill its too late.

We are the making of our own destiny!

For there to be a beginning there has to be an end, but for every end there is always a new beginning.

The cycle of life.
What do you want to be?
A part of history or a part of the future ?

I guess what I am trying to say is....
Dont fret about been awake or not, you are who you are and you will do what is needed to do when the time is right.


This awake thing is almost turning occult.