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cruise4
13-12-2007, 10:01 PM
No UFO's here just Top Secret technology and declassified stuff. Interesting...

Physics of Waves: True story of Roswell, no really - 1of3
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJWb06p71k&feature=related

Physics of Waves: True story of Roswell, no really - 2of3
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=UpnENQISi8o&feature=related

Physics of Waves: True story of Roswell, no really - 3of3
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=vc3CSXt3bPk&feature=related

hagbard_celine
14-12-2007, 11:03 PM
I'll have a look through this, but I hope it's not another piece of disinfo like "Project Mogul".

blueone
15-12-2007, 01:23 AM
yet another story that attemp's to explain Roswell. I might be crazy, but maybe the very 1st story that was reported was the one true tale? You know the one that said a alien ship had crashed & was reported in the local paper. Nah, sorry i must be mad eh?

hagbard_celine
15-12-2007, 01:50 AM
Allow me to briefly pat myself on the back; I guessed correctly!:cool:

Project Mogul is a very neat and detailed explanation for the Roswell mystery... and it's bullshit! There was a public opening of Project Mogul and study of boxes of aparently 1947-dated material, including reslistic documents and pcakaged debris. The History Channel made a 1-hour special called Roswell- Final Declassification. So many people think that wraps up the story, but in actual fact Project Mogul is the Doug and Dave of the Roswell inccident.

Firstly, it strikes me as strange that such a project would remain classified until 1995. It's not just that the Cold War was over, but that even if it hadn't been, so many years had past. The secrets of the early Cold War were old hat and all the others had been declassified decades earlier: The missile development project at White Sands, the Polaris submarine missile system, early spy satellites, human intelligence rings. I think that Project Mogul never existed; or at least not in the way it has been portrayed in the Roswell Report. Also if the report is true then Jesse Marcel must have either been in a stupor the day he saw the debris from Brazell's ranch or else he lied to Stanton Friedman. Sure the Mogul balloons might not have looked like weather balloons, but they would still have been blatantly man-made and an air force inteligence officer would be the last person to mistake them for anything not so.

There's more to this piece of disinformation that strains credibility even further. By an amazing coincidence on the same day another military operation loses some equipment: parachute dummies! And these dummies were used to explain the alien bodies. I think if I was working for the government and I wanted to make up a cover story, this is the yarn I would concoct!:D

Professor Muller's quip at the end is quite ironic. I'm sure he's not lying, but what he says is still untrue. He just bought the crap along with so many others :rolleyes:. Project mogul was not the "final declasification", it was a deeper and more subtle tactic in the Roswell cover-up.

hagbard_celine
15-12-2007, 01:55 AM
yet another story that attemp's to explain Roswell. I might be crazy, but maybe the very 1st story that was reported was the one true tale? You know the one that said a alien ship had crashed & was reported in the local paper. Nah, sorry i must be mad eh?

It's only when you get called "sane" and "normal" that you've got to worry!:D

It's always the initial news reports that are the most interesting; just like with 9/11. In the History Channel show I mentioned above, they actually claim that the first "Flying Disk" story was disnifo in itself!:rolleyes: The CIA apprently sewed the seeds of UFO stories as a regular tactic to launder their own operations. I think this is just a double-bluff. It's the opposite: they use imaginary operations like mogul to launder the truth about UFO's!

The explanations the Skeptics come up with are more bizzarre and convoluted than anything we could!:D

2013
24-12-2007, 01:06 AM
Professor Muller's quip at the end is quite ironic. I'm sure he's not lying, but what he says is still untrue. He just bought the crap along with so many others :rolleyes:. Project mogul was not the "final declasification", it was a deeper and more subtle tactic in the Roswell cover-up.

Thats the problem with so called intellectuals they will fasten onto anything that reflects their belief system and expalins things so they can stay in their comfort zone and not have to alter their world view :D

de_shit
24-12-2007, 01:46 AM
Allow me to briefly pat myself on the back; I guessed correctly!:cool:

Project Mogul is a very neat and detailed explanation for the Roswell mystery... and it's bullshit!
Thanks for telling me that dude. Now I don't have to watch some video on a disinfo subject.

hagbard_celine
24-12-2007, 10:35 AM
De_Shit and 2013, here's a much better vid about the Roswell Incident (Click the links for the succeeding parts):

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6976121461942743543&q=roswell&total=6977&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

This was obviously inteneded for TV, but it was never broadcast... I wonder why!;)

zedd
25-12-2007, 03:59 AM
The most reasonable theory on Roswell that I have heard that didn't involved UFOs is that it was actually a test flight of some kind. We had many Nazi scientists come to the US and they liked to test things on handicapped people (and pretty much anyone). So, someone suggested that we were testing using people with Progeria (or any of the many missing children would work) and that would explain why there would be the need to cover the story up and why the bodies that were found would have looked somewhat "alien."

It's obvious that whatever it was is something pretty important, advanced, or horrifying or there would be no reason to cover it up.

hagbard_celine
25-12-2007, 12:32 PM
The most reasonable theory on Roswell that I have heard that didn't involved UFOs is that it was actually a test flight of some kind. We had many Nazi scientists come to the US and they liked to test things on handicapped people (and pretty much anyone). So, someone suggested that we were testing using people with Progeria (or any of the many missing children would work) and that would explain why there would be the need to cover the story up and why the bodies that were found would have looked somewhat "alien."

It's obvious that whatever it was is something pretty important, advanced, or horrifying or there would be no reason to cover it up.

Could be. It depends which of the various witnesses you find most credible. It wouldn't surprise me if the incident revolved around some kind of genetic experiment. Such horrors do go on in secret, sadly. Although most of the witnesses claim that there are other incidents that are unequivocally extraterrestrial in nature and that, even if we don't know for sure, Roswell could be one of them.

2013
25-12-2007, 11:10 PM
I read a sci -fi book about nazi genetic experiments one was giveing people gills so they could live underwater ! , so the nazi usa experiments could be feasable , have also read that the greys where the result of nazi genetic experiments as well so anything is possible, although some native tribes of america have legends of the ant people who came from the stars and live underground !!so if these match the description of the greys then who are we to believe as we tend to agree that the native peoples of earth are more in the right way of being thinking living when allowed to that is :)

cruise4
28-12-2007, 09:32 AM
Good info hagbard. Didn't believe it myself, but I haven't followed Roswell much and thought someone would explain it.... which you did.

hagbard_celine
28-12-2007, 02:52 PM
Good info hagbard. Didn't believe it myself, but I haven't followed Roswell much and thought someone would explain it.... which you did.


That's Ok, mate :). It's always the stories label "Solved" or "case closed" that are the most suspicious. If a case was truly "solved" and "closed", would it be necessary to tell us?;)

procyon
30-12-2007, 09:15 PM
Paperclip 1947. Roswell 1947. hmmmm.