Aren't We the Reptiles in a Round about Way?

[alice1111]

I hear so much about we are all one and that this is our dream or nightmare, (your choice) so wouldn't we BE the reptiles? I know they exist, I have seen them and it would seem reasonable to think that we are connected, no matter how much some of us might not like that notion.:eek:

Love ya,

Alice

[paganus]

I hear so much about we are all one and that this is our dream or nightmare, (your choice) so wouldn't we BE the reptiles? I know they exist, I have seen them and it would seem reasonable to think that we are connected, no matter how much some of us might not like that notion.:eek:

Love ya,

Alicei think youre right.could be our own repressed negativity.

[alice1111]

Thank you Paganus,

I was hoping I didn't get blasted. Could we have an alternate personality as a reptile?:eek::)

[paganus]

Thank you Paganus,

I was hoping I didn't get blasted. Could we have an alternate personality as a reptile?:eek::)very possible! what Jung called the 'shadow'

[paganus]

incidentally,what exactly did you experience?

[alice1111]

I have seen them with my third eye. Looked like a cross between a T-rex and a dragon. I saw them before I heard of David and this is how I found Ickes books, etc. because I was trying to make sense of what I saw. I know another woman who had the same experience. The ones I saw did not look threatening and did not scare me. However, I was quite dumbfounded for a while.:o:)

[paganus]

so they were on the astral plane?

[alice1111]

I suppose you could put it that way, but in the same space as us, different vibration. If you were to consider that space actually exists. It does for us at least now.:)

[paganus]

I suppose you could put it that way, but in the same space as us, different vibration. If you were to consider that space actually exists. It does for us at least now.:)i see.fits with my theory!

[alice1111]

But then David and Credo say they saw them in our dimension, the pinks in gray outfits. I see no reason not to believe them, but I have not personally seen them.

[revolutionary_jam]

yes we are

[paganus]

But then David and Credo say they saw them in our dimension, the pinks in gray outfits. I see no reason not to believe them, but I have not personally seen them.a thought-form can physically manifest,because everythings energy anyway.

[alice1111]

Yes, all energy and thanks Jam.:)

[tim the enchanter]

I hear so much about we are all one and that this is our dream or nightmare, (your choice) so wouldn't we BE the reptiles? I know they exist, I have seen them and it would seem reasonable to think that we are connected, no matter how much some of us might not like that notion.:eek:

Love ya,

Alice

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cosmic-Serpent-DNA-Origins-Knowledge/dp/075380851X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197570504&sr=8-1

[paganus]

i recommend using some defence like visualizing a sphere of energy around you as a shield if it happens again.

[alice1111]

Yeah Tim, I have that book, very good, thank you. Paganus, I used to worry so much about protection that I had a stack of books a mile high, but I don't really think they work much for me anymore. Keeping my vibration as high as possible seems to work best and by that I mean to make myself feel good as much as I can, which can be challenging at times for sure. When I get carried away with paranoia or worry or anger then my vibration lowers and look out. Thanks:)

[tim the enchanter]

Yeah Tim, I have that book, very good, thank you.

If you're in a reading mood, you might like to read Graham Hancock's "Supernatural", available in the alternative sections of your highstreet bookstore. If you've read Cosmic Serpent and similar books, a lot of the information might be very familiar to you, but like Icke at his best, it does bring together a lot of different sourcs to follow up on, while being modest about ascribing to much meaning to any of it.

[tim the enchanter]

I like the Alice theme you have. Did'ya know Marilyn Manson is directing a movie about Lewis Carrol and Alice called Phantasmagoria? :cool:

[dmt head]

I was actually talking about this on another thread the other day, about DMT and if we are all one then these seperate things are another part of us if were all one then. Heres the link, its about the ego , quite interesting some of the points not had the chance to read it in its eniirety though

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=43062

[alice1111]

Hey Tim,

Flying Serpents and Dragons by RA Boulay.
The Return of the Serpents of Wisdom by Mark Amaru Pinkham.
I look forward to the movie. I will have to look into Supernatural; I have a lot of his books.

Hi dmt, thanks for the link

Alice:)

[tim the enchanter]

Both must-read books Alice. With Supernatural, it's fantastic to see Hancock taking the, well, supernatural, plunge so well after years of writing about lost civilisations.

[alice1111]

Tim, Supernatural is on my list to get, but I am so behind on my reading now, I have stacks I want to get to.

Anyway, having gone through many books and learning about myself and how our world works, I am now at a point where I just don't know what the heck to do about it. My life has turned totally upside down. I used to feel a joy inside that didn't take much, just little things, and I would feel so happy and excited, but now it seems as if the joy in living has some how dissappeared. I am not in a depression or whatever consensus reality would like to call it. But I wake up in the morning and it's the same old BS. I have always been the type to find fun in just about anything and now it seems as if life has become a huge stuggle. It is as if the very joy in life has been sucked out in my case. I have not considered myself to have victim mentality and yet it seems as if everything I do to improve myself and life just turns out painful. I have gone through years of the you create your own reality stuff and have not found that benificial. And the new-age stuff just doesn't work for me. I would really appreciate any ideas anyone might have?????????

[maggie]

Kabbalah

[alice1111]

Kabbalah

Maggie, please don't take offense to this because I have trouble sometimes understanding if someone is kidding with me or not. Are you serious?:)

[dmt head]

Tim, Supernatural is on my list to get, but I am so behind on my reading now, I have stacks I want to get to.

Anyway, having gone through many books and learning about myself and how our world works, I am now at a point where I just don't know what the heck to do about it. My life has turned totally upside down. I used to feel a joy inside that didn't take much, just little things, and I would feel so happy and excited, but now it seems as if the joy in living has some how dissappeared. I am not in a depression or whatever consensus reality would like to call it. But I wake up in the morning and it's the same old BS. I have always been the type to find fun in just about anything and now it seems as if life has become a huge stuggle. It is as if the very joy in life has been sucked out in my case. I have not considered myself to have victim mentality and yet it seems as if everything I do to improve myself and life just turns out painful. I have gone through years of the you create your own reality stuff and have not found that benificial. And the new-age stuff just doesn't work for me. I would really appreciate any ideas anyone might have?????????

Meditation could help. Mushrooms, DMT, cappi vine/ayahuasca could help, someone said there good to take just a few times and then integrate it into your life, they do work well for me as a great anti depressant, but I do take them kind of regular, but for different reasons than when I was younger for the buzz of it all. Self help books too could help my mates going to give me a couple forget their names tho sorry.

[maggie]

Maggie, please don't take offense to this because I have trouble sometimes understanding if someone is kidding with me or not. Are you serious?:)

No I am not kidding.That is what has brought me out of my deep sleep and my constant awakening.If it wasn't for Kaballah I wouldn't even understand what Icke was saying.When I first took a class the requirement was to see the movie'The Matrix.Need I go on.

[alice1111]

Maggie,

Thank you for your reply. There was a time when I did study Kaballa extensively, the tree of life etc. I did find it very helpful, I just had a problem with the God thing and all those angels of all kinds. Sorry, my upbringing was extremely religious (christian) and horrid and so I have had trouble with that. Is there something I'm not getting?

[maggie]

I would not recommend drugs if you are out of it.The could leave you vulnerable to attacks and also leave you in a weakened state.Save that stuff when you are feeling mor balanced.

[maggie]

Maggie,

Thank you for your reply. There was a time when I did study Kaballa extensively, the tree of life etc. I did find it very helpful, I just had a problem with the God thing and all those angels of all kinds. Sorry, my upbringing was extremely religious (christian) and horrid and so I have had trouble with that. Is there something I'm not getting?
Yeah,you have to forget the religion thing.Kaballah is a wisdom not religion and everything is symbolic.Angels=energy Tree of life =consciousnessSfirot=10 dimensions.The teachings are a code.Believe it or not a lot of what Icke has said is like Kaballah.Everything that is good spiritual stuff has their roots in this wisdom.Also they give you the tools to raise your consciousness without getting in the way of bad energy.It shows you how to avoid the negative things that happen to you.It basically gets you inside of yourself to create the reality you want.Not what you think you see.If you want E-mail and I'll givre you whatever info you need

[alice1111]

Dmt,

I have done a lot of meditation in my time and perhaps should get back to it.

I don't know where you live, but where I am all these drugs & or natural plants and fungi are illegal. Like, get caught taking or purchasing a natural fungi and spend your days in prison, not good; I have claustrophobia.:o

[dmt head]

I would not recommend drugs if you are out of it.The could leave you vulnerable to attacks and also leave you in a weakened state.Save that stuff when you are feeling mor balanced.


Good Point!! Sorry for my naivity :o Was under attack the other night, took too many shrooms by mistake!

And alice the cappi vine is legal wherever you are ! Its in the UN charter lol apparantly with that, in my two times taking that itself you dont trip she works in a subtle way and heals you! You would be sick but its physical as well as emotional, like expelling all your emotional build up thats manifested in a physical way, if you know what I mean and meditation with that would work well, it is a medicine not a drug! it raises seratonin levels too :)

[alice1111]

Maggie,

Thanks a million. Since you put it that way, perhaps I will go back to studying it. I still have all the books etc.:)

If you have any further advice about it, feel free to pm me.

[alice1111]

Good Point!! Sorry for my naivity :o Was under attack the other night, took too many shrooms by mistake!

And alice the cappi vine is legal wherever you are ! Its in the UN charter lol apparantly with that, in my two times taking that itself you dont trip she works in a subtle way and heals you! You would be sick but its physical as well as emotional, like expelling all your emotional build up thats manifested in a physical way, if you know what I mean and meditation with that would work well, it is a medicine not a drug! it raises seratonin levels too :)


dmt,

Where do you get cappi vine? At a health food store, on line?

[maggie]

I hope I can help.But maybe you could go on line to their site and get their number for student support.They will help you over the phone as to which books to read and what tools to use to lift your depression.Remember one thing that depression means you are supressing something.With these tools you will clear you unconscious and reveal what is really bothering you.Then you will not be in the dark as to whats going on with you.You'll be able to deal with it and be as happy as shit.Have a good journey and contact me if you need any help what so ever.Love and light.

[dmt head]

Remember one thing that depression means you are supressing something.With these tools you will clear you unconscious and reveal what is really bothering you.Then you will not be in the dark as to whats going on with you.You'll be able to deal with it and be as happy as shit.Have a good journey and contact me if you need any help what so ever.Love and light.

Cappi can expel those built up emotions physically and mentally! :)

[alice1111]

Thanks a million to you both:)

[shellygurrrl]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cosmic-Serpent-DNA-Origins-Knowledge/dp/075380851X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197570504&sr=8-1

Now this link has taken me down a path of deliciousness, and I am checking it out. Thanks! :)

[paganus]

Maggie,

Thank you for your reply. There was a time when I did study Kaballa extensively, the tree of life etc. I did find it very helpful, I just had a problem with the God thing and all those angels of all kinds. Sorry, my upbringing was extremely religious (christian) and horrid and so I have had trouble with that. Is there something I'm not getting?perhaps look into Wicca? its what i practice.

[alice1111]

Yes Paganus,

Do you have synchronicities? I have them all the time and Wicca has been showing up a lot lately. I have truly been giving it some serious consideration. I did this for several years and then I allowed people to convince me that it was wrong or stupid. If this is my dream I live in, I should do what I want in it. Yes?
I have nothing against men, love them, but I am tired of a totally patriarchal religious society. This Wiccan way does seem to add more balance. If it is for men & women both. The only problem I have with it is 'again' bowing to a goddess or any sort of god. Please speak to me of this.

[revolutionary_jam]

I say that if you don't like the way the reptilians operate try and find what about you acts in that way and change it?

[alice1111]

I like that jam. Do I act like a reptile? I am not sure what you mean.:)

[revolutionary_jam]

i mean all the traits that david associates with the reptiles in his books

[alice1111]

OK, thank you. I understand now what you mean.:)

[shellygurrrl]

Yes Paganus,

Do you have synchronicities? I have them all the time and Wicca has been showing up a lot lately. I have truly been giving it some serious consideration. I did this for several years and then I allowed people to convince me that it was wrong or stupid. If this is my dream I live in, I should do what I want in it. Yes?
I have nothing against men, love them, but I am tired of a totally patriarchal religious society. This Wiccan way does seem to add more balance. If it is for men & women both. The only problem I have with it is 'again' bowing to a goddess or any sort of god. Please speak to me of this.

I don't think any religion should ask anyone to do something they aren't comfortable doing. Why couldn't you practice Wicca without bowing? Seems simple to me. ?

[alice1111]

Thank you shelly,

I guess I have just not found a group I feel comfortable with or do you mean do it on your own.:)

Or do you mean to see these gods and goddesses as symbolic energy.:o

[paganus]

Yes Paganus,

Do you have synchronicities? I have them all the time and Wicca has been showing up a lot lately. I have truly been giving it some serious consideration. I did this for several years and then I allowed people to convince me that it was wrong or stupid. If this is my dream I live in, I should do what I want in it. Yes?
I have nothing against men, love them, but I am tired of a totally patriarchal religious society. This Wiccan way does seem to add more balance. If it is for men & women both. The only problem I have with it is 'again' bowing to a goddess or any sort of god. Please speak to me of this.its a lot different! if you would like any questions answered you can pm me if you want.

[tim the enchanter]

No I am not kidding.That is what has brought me out of my deep sleep and my constant awakening.If it wasn't for Kaballah I wouldn't even understand what Icke was saying.When I first took a class the requirement was to see the movie'The Matrix.Need I go on.

In another thread I wrote:

"Likewise as mentioned above, The Matrix, 1984 and reading up on 9/11 were all important influences for me. The Matrix trilogy still staggers me every time I see it, and is a tremendous fount of influence; huge symbolic (and not so symbolic) clues about life are littered throghout the films like confetti."

[tim the enchanter]

Yes Paganus,

Do you have synchronicities? I have them all the time and Wicca has been showing up a lot lately. I have truly been giving it some serious consideration. I did this for several years and then I allowed people to convince me that it was wrong or stupid. If this is my dream I live in, I should do what I want in it. Yes?
I have nothing against men, love them, but I am tired of a totally patriarchal religious society. This Wiccan way does seem to add more balance. If it is for men & women both. The only problem I have with it is 'again' bowing to a goddess or any sort of god. Please speak to me of this.

To take any religion literaly, as gospel, so to speak, is not a very clever thing. Nu uh.

[tim the enchanter]

Tim, Supernatural is on my list to get, but I am so behind on my reading now, I have stacks I want to get to.

Anyway, having gone through many books and learning about myself and how our world works, I am now at a point where I just don't know what the heck to do about it. My life has turned totally upside down. I used to feel a joy inside that didn't take much, just little things, and I would feel so happy and excited, but now it seems as if the joy in living has some how dissappeared. I am not in a depression or whatever consensus reality would like to call it. But I wake up in the morning and it's the same old BS. I have always been the type to find fun in just about anything and now it seems as if life has become a huge stuggle. It is as if the very joy in life has been sucked out in my case. I have not considered myself to have victim mentality and yet it seems as if everything I do to improve myself and life just turns out painful. I have gone through years of the you create your own reality stuff and have not found that benificial. And the new-age stuff just doesn't work for me. I would really appreciate any ideas anyone might have?????????


Of course, I can't be yor psychoanalist, I'm not trained and we're speaking on a forum, but I can offer you some ideas as you asked. You say you're not of a victim mentality, but we are all of us victims of circumstance, that is, being born into the age that we are, so I would understand if you're depressed. Maybe the old smiling sparkle you say you miss was a mask for something else that needs to be adressed? Maybe it was imbalencing another part of your charecter, and your rebbeling by ignoring it. Who knows?

Ralph Waldo Emerson has often cheered me up and influenced me highly, so maybe you can gleen similar benefits...

"If I have lost confidence in myself, I have the universe against me."

- Emerson

"Be not the slave of your own past. Plunge into the sublime seas, dive deep and swim far, so you shall come back with self-respect, with new power, with an advanced experience that shall explain and overlook the old."

- Emerson

http://www.emersoncentral.com/texts.htm

[alice1111]

Tim,

I couldn't count the times I've watched "The Matrix" and still cry at the end when Neo flys free. Love Emerson.
As far as any religion, don't worry. "Nothing" is gospel to me, but I learn from everything. Right or wrong, doesn't matter, I still learn.
I will take into consideration what you have said.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkx98oHjJM

[tim the enchanter]

Oh Lord, I turn into a giddy little girl nearly always when I watch those films!

Maybe your job is holding you back? Maybe you need to break out into economic self-sufficency, find something love to do and earn from it?

[shellygurrrl]

Thank you shelly,

I guess I have just not found a group I feel comfortable with or do you mean do it on your own.:)

Or do you mean to see these gods and goddesses as symbolic energy.:o

Oh, I just mean do what feels comfortable and when something comes up and doesn't feel right, you don't do it.

You CAN do it on your own or view it as symbolism, also.

:)