Are there "good" Reptilians?

[shellygurrrl]

I'm reading DI's book "The Biggest Secret."

I'm curious what my fellow forum posters here think about the nature of the reptilians. Are there good ones?

And Zeccaria Sitchin. He portrays the Annunaki and the "gods" of the Sumerians as being benevolent.

The alien artifacts we've seen on this forum in threads and that are located easily by doing a Google search, Icke says are all reptilian origin.

So who are the Pleiadians? Are they the "white" reptilians Icke speaks of? Or another multi-dimensional species.

Comments, opinions, views? :)

[paganus]

the more evolved a species becomes,the more moral it becomes.

[rossus]

are there reptilians at all?
what proof is there that they really exist?

for me...............
a bad quality video, is not proof.
the testimonies of people who saw reptilians under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs, is not proof.

even if some sober-minded-people saw things that look like reptilians , it's not proof they exist.
sometimes the mind makes things look different than they are... our own brain produce DMT...
which is one of the most powerful hallucinogenic substance in the world.

all this talk about pleiadians and reptilians, it's crazy how quickly people believe something to be real... without having had proof.

[paganus]

are there reptilians at all?
what proof is there that they really exist?

for me...............
a bad quality video, is not proof.
the testimonies of people who saw reptilians under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs, is not proof.

even if some people saw things that look like reptilians sober, it's not proof they exist.i was speaking hypothetically,as i am in my post 'vegetarians'

[hirschfelder]

are there reptilians at all?
what proof is there that they really exist?



Jesus wept.

David Icke should close this forum down, having browsed for the last half hour, I've read nothing but cringeworthy and pompous posts from smug middle-class know-it-alls and ridiculous posts like this

If you need 'proof' to even entertain an idea, then what are you doing on a David Icke forum FFS?

Why not just go back to living your life and believing in only that which the powers that be allow to be proven?

The world is a simple place, human civilisation is only a few thouand years old, George Bush is a decent civil servant doing the best he can for his country and 9/11 was the work of dastardly terrorists. You will find 'scientists', politicians and media people offering 'proof' of these facts everyday, providing a ready-made belief system and history for you

Wouldn't you be happier on richarddawkins.com?

Seriously, Icke, close it down, it's an embarrasment

[kblood]

hmm... all the whining aside...

Yes, if reptillians exists, then some of them must be good. A whole race of "evil" beings doesnt seem possible, logical and such.

[paganus]

if theyre more evolved theyre more morally advanced.human evolution alone shows that

[rossus]

...
what make you think reptillians is not a ready made belief system?

you're probably right,
and i should not question reptillians here... because there's already a thread for that in this section of the forum.
i'll keep it in mind.

it just sort of happens automatically,
i see all this talk about belief in reptillians etc... but there is not a single piece of black and white proof for the existance of them.
just some vague stories, that is all.

to me it seems almost just as foolish to believe in this reptilian stuff, than to believe the official 9/11 story.



don't frustrate yourself mate, it's not worth it. :)

[paganus]

what make you think reptillians is not a ready made belief system?

perhaps you right, and i should not question reptillians in the reptilian forum.


it just sort of happens automatically,
i see all this talk about belief in reptillians etc... but there is not a single piece of black and white proof for the existance of them.
just some vague stories, that is all.

to me it seems almost just as foolish to believe in this reptilian stuff, than to believe the official 9/11 story.




don't frustrate yourself mate, it's not worth it. :)even if they are real,why do some belive them to be evil?

[hirschfelder]

what make you think reptillians is not a ready made belief system?

Who says I don't?

IF there is a secret reptilian conspiracy which has been going on for thousands of years, I wouldn't hold out much hope for 'proof'

If it is true, they aren't ever likely to break the story on Fox News

A conspiracy, by its very nature, obscures, manipulates and hides 'proof'

[metalwarrior]

A greater question would be to define what is and is not evil. Or Good for that matter, everyone imagines themselves as being good, and has good intentions yadadaa and you know where that leads.....

Mabey the evil monster is not external, but internal, in the end it is revealed that we are in fact the evil shapeshifting human eating alien monster that fly saucers and rule the world....

A spin on thoughts remembering when bender from futerama was a giant robot and then haven been attacked and taken down by the people for being a giant robot monster distroying the city he said something along the lines of "am I the 500 ton robot monster, no it is each of you who is the real 500 ton robot monster". : P

[viginti tres]

Who says I don't?

IF there is a secret reptilian conspiracy which has been going on for thousands of years, I wouldn't hold out much hope for 'proof'

If it is true, they aren't ever likely to break the story on Fox News

A conspiracy, by its very nature, obscures, manipulates and hides 'proof'

This would have to be the best post I've read here so far.........no seriously......brilliance in simplicity.

Are there good reptilians.......likely if indeed they are real.

Perhaps a better question would be, what propels a species to become predominatly evil?

.....nature

.....survival

......lust

..........????

-Power to the Peaceful-

-Mitchell-

[paganus]

they couldnt do a worse job than humans have been doing!

[alice1111]

The reptiles exist. I have seen them and I am really not crazy. But then I can't prove either of these statements.:o

Alice:)

Forgot to say that I don't know whether we would consider them ALL good or not, but then how would a cow or chicken feel about us?

[paganus]

i dont think theyre literally reptilies.could be thought-forms of our own negativity.

[alice1111]

Paganus,

You make a very good point. Will consider that one.:)

[paganus]

Paganus,

You make a very good point. Will consider that one.:)its something ive been thinking on recently.i dont think an advanced life-form COULD be morally worse than us.

[alice1111]

its something ive been thinking on recently.i dont think an advanced life-form COULD be morally worse than us.

IMO, it's what you consider advanced. I agree, it would be hard to out-do us in morality or stupidy for now anyway, if considering that times exists.:)

[paganus]

IMO, it's what you consider advanced. I agree, it would be hard to out-do us in morality or stupidy for now anyway, if considering that times exists.:)i dont believe in 'time' as such.i just mean on our 'time' scale.

[viginti tres]

i dont think theyre literally reptilies.could be thought-forms of our own negativity.

Interesting....

I've been thinking this lately also, perhaps they are projections of our shadow self.

-Power to the Peaceful-

-Mitchell-

[shellygurrrl]

are there reptilians at all?
what proof is there that they really exist?

for me...............
a bad quality video, is not proof.
the testimonies of people who saw reptilians under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs, is not proof.

even if some sober-minded-people saw things that look like reptilians , it's not proof they exist.
sometimes the mind makes things look different than they are... our own brain produce DMT...
which is one of the most powerful hallucinogenic substance in the world.

all this talk about pleiadians and reptilians, it's crazy how quickly people believe something to be real... without having had proof.
I understand what you're saying. I really wish I could see irrefutable proof. Right now, I'm trying the whole "go with your intuition" thing.

[shellygurrrl]

Jesus wept.

David Icke should close this forum down, having browsed for the last half hour, I've read nothing but cringeworthy and pompous posts from smug middle-class know-it-alls and ridiculous posts like this

If you need 'proof' to even entertain an idea, then what are you doing on a David Icke forum FFS?

Why not just go back to living your life and believing in only that which the powers that be allow to be proven?

The world is a simple place, human civilisation is only a few thouand years old, George Bush is a decent civil servant doing the best he can for his country and 9/11 was the work of dastardly terrorists. You will find 'scientists', politicians and media people offering 'proof' of these facts everyday, providing a ready-made belief system and history for you

Wouldn't you be happier on richarddawkins.com?

Seriously, Icke, close it down, it's an embarrasment

Oh ok. Well, now that you've said this, it's clear now. We must close the forum down.

:rolleyes:

[shellygurrrl]

if theyre more evolved theyre more morally advanced.human evolution alone shows that
Not necessarily.

An advanced species could potentially be very immoral.

[tim the enchanter]

I understand what you're saying. I really wish I could see irrefutable proof. Right now, I'm trying the whole "go with your intuition" thing.

Intuition is a grand thing, but, no need to suspend the mind in one's search for truth. Much research has been done on the reptilian/alien/supernatural phenomenae, and if you perhaps think the buck stops with Icke, it realy, realy doesn't.

[shellygurrrl]

Intuition is a grand thing, but, no need to suspend the mind in one's search for truth. Much research has been done on the reptilian/alien/supernatural phenomenae, and if you perhaps think the buck stops with Icke, it realy, realy doesn't.
Go on.

:D

[gordonfreeman]

Don't lock or close the forum!!!!!!:mad:

After reading most of the people's posts here.

Yet another one we see normally about reptilian disinfo. They are so good that they show no proof to the humans.

[tothestars]

So the Reppies and their minions are trying to close this forum... why am i not surprised....

:eek:

[paganus]

freedom of speech is one of OUR weapons! keep the forum open.

[shellygurrrl]

So one person comes in and says close down the forum and then there's all these posts about the forum closing down? What's up with that?

It's all good from where I'm at.

:) Peace

[philidor]

the more evolved a species becomes,the more moral it becomes.

Then howcome our morality isn't as evolved as our technology? We can send a spaceship to Mars but still cheer when someone goes free after killing his wife and have the mass media play the same irrelevant stories over, and over, and over again. Who cares about the Baseball scandal when Haliburton's covering up a RAPE and kept a lid on how they didn't clean the malaria contaminated drinking and bathing water of MARINES. See Iraqforsale for additional information. Since this is about reptiles however I think the reptilians are symbolic in Ickes books for something else. There are no literal "reptilians" that we currently know of or we would know of them.

[philidor]

Jesus wept.

David Icke should close this forum down, having browsed for the last half hour, I've read nothing but cringeworthy and pompous posts from smug middle-class know-it-alls and ridiculous posts like this

If you need 'proof' to even entertain an idea, then what are you doing on a David Icke forum FFS?

Why not just go back to living your life and believing in only that which the powers that be allow to be proven?

The world is a simple place, human civilisation is only a few thouand years old, George Bush is a decent civil servant doing the best he can for his country and 9/11 was the work of dastardly terrorists. You will find 'scientists', politicians and media people offering 'proof' of these facts everyday, providing a ready-made belief system and history for you

Wouldn't you be happier on richarddawkins.com?

Seriously, Icke, close it down, it's an embarrasment

We all know Bush is objetively a bad president. Sure he probably means well but politics is perhaps the most complicated science there is, even with all those extremely concentrated specialized divisions to help deal with different factors and variables in the political equation.

[shellygurrrl]

Then howcome our morality isn't as evolved as our technology? We can send a spaceship to Mars but still cheer when someone goes free after killing his wife and have the mass media play the same irrelevant stories over, and over, and over again. Who cares about the Baseball scandal when Haliburton's covering up a RAPE and kept a lid on how they didn't clean the malaria contaminated drinking and bathing water of MARINES. See Iraqforsale for additional information. Since this is about reptiles however I think the reptilians are symbolic in Ickes books for something else. There are no literal "reptilians" that we currently know of or we would know of them.
"Iraq For Sale" = GOOD MOVIE!

Well, about the reptilians, isn't the whole deal that they are from another dimension, so we wouldn't know of them necessarily outright.

And Icke says some have cross bred into the "white" race.
He says some people are possessed by multi-dimensional reptilians.

[shellygurrrl]

Millions of animals are slaughtered everyday to satisfy the ever increasing demand for meat(s) and growth. The daily bloodshed if collected would be enough to paint the entire city of London and its 12 to 13 million residents with the thickest, darkest, putrifying blood. We consume an ever increasing rate of resources and produce mountains of waste and pollutants. Perversion is broadcasted freely and encouraged exponentially. Our children (our future) are drowning in our greed and driven by our egos, as they intoxicate themselves with the ever increasing inflow of drugs, stimulants and alcohol. People live in fear and worry about their increasingly expensive-driven lifestyles and uncertain futures. More People are disconnecting from reality, disembodying themselves and choosing to live a superficial existance as avatars (residual self images) to embrace fabricated realities/shows/forms of entertainment, webcasts/blogs/chat rooms, virtual worlds, fantasies, etc. On a daily basis, man brings anihilation upon millions of plants and animals and consequenlty himself and his soul. That is a fact.


You've said a lot of interesting things. I'll start here.

I could say you're right about what you've written, I agree with it to a point, but it's a fatalistic approach and too negative for me. Yes, these things may go on. But we can choose to be different.

What do you think we should do to stop the destruction of earth? And the suffering of children and animals? Do you think there is anything to be done? Just curious.

[alice1111]

sithnememesis,

You said it, the list goes on and on, more and more crazy everyday, but I have not heard a solution. Where I live usually you get two people together and they can't agree on much of anything so they lock themselves into watching sports etc. Nothing wrong with sports, but most people don't seem to see what is going on or care. And if you bring up something that is outside the box, you either get blasted or odd looks. I would love to be able to find a solution and do not like a fatalistic approach. I just don't know what to do.

Love,

Alice

[sithnemesis]

You've said a lot of interesting things. I'll start here.

I could say you're right about what you've written, I agree with it to a point, but it's a fatalistic approach and too negative for me. Yes, these things may go on. But we can choose to be different.

What do you think we should do to stop the destruction of earth? And the suffering of children and animals? Do you think there is anything to be done? Just curious.

It starts with you. The actions you take and the choices you make. Question your country's leadership and all existing and recurring policies. Be informed and inform accordingly. Know yourself and your enemy.

In terms of environmental problems, find out how your own lifestyle is contributing towards such destructive consequences and make changes accordingly. Find alternatives. Be strong don't follow the mutli-billion driven crowd. Always ask yourself the crucial question 'who benefits and what are the consequences?' Once you've opened your eyes, approach others and show them what's happening. Never be discouraged when you encounter indifference. Participate actively in relevant forums, write articles, get involved with environmental protection bodies. Keep fighting all your life and never give up. Do not live in fear. Be truthful and always do the right thing. Voice out your ideas and frustrations. Get your friends and loved ones involved. Ensure that you are aware of any malpractice being conducted. Don't hesitate getting your hands dirty to clean the mess... don't leave it for someone else to take care of.

As far as animals are concerned, the choice is yours - most people concentrate on wild life protection and lend a blind-eye to the fate of cattle, poultry and fisheries, because we have all been pre-conditioned to view these animals as edible and hence commodities while the remaining others who have the good or misfortune of sharing our lives are regarded as mere pets and thus property. The choice is truly yours.

As far as children are concerned. All you can do is listen, open your heart and protest against internal or external policies contributng towards the abuse and suffering of children. I doubt you will ever be able to get involved in criminal matters locally, in which case you can only react and put pressure on the relevant authorities. Show your support to anybody who is courageous enough to come forward and blow the whistle on child abuse and suffering, but be careful as to what you get yoursel involved into. This is a delicate issue and people do not have much power here... it's all in the hands of the authorities. As far as rituals are concerned, the people conducting are most of the time too powerful for common people to do anything about it.

[paganus]

sithnememesis,

You said it, the list goes on and on, more and more crazy everyday, but I have not heard a solution. Where I live usually you get two people together and they can't agree on much of anything so they lock themselves into watching sports etc. Nothing wrong with sports, but most people don't seem to see what is going on or care. And if you bring up something that is outside the box, you either get blasted or odd looks. I would love to be able to find a solution and do not like a fatalistic approach. I just don't know what to do.

Love,

Alicewell,i myself became vegetarian and worked for some animal rights causes,including helping get the ban on fox-hunting.always keep an eye out for what you could be doing!

[alice1111]

One of my greatest passions is animals. They sometimes seem more evolved than us. I hardly ever eat meat, but then I don't eat much of anything anymore. But then this may seem hypocritical of me for I feed my doggies meat.:)

[shellygurrrl]

One of my greatest passions is animals. They sometimes seem more evolved than us. I hardly ever eat meat, but then I don't eat much of anything anymore. But then this may seem hypocritical of me for I feed my doggies meat.:)

I don't think it's hypocritical at all. Dogs are omnivores and should have some meat, in my opinion. I always had cats in the past, and they need meat period (carnivores, which I'm sure you know being an animal lover :) ).

When you say you don't eat much anymore, do you feel ok doing that? I know I couldn't go without eating, but I do try to eat whole foods.

:)

[paganus]

One of my greatest passions is animals. They sometimes seem more evolved than us. I hardly ever eat meat, but then I don't eat much of anything anymore. But then this may seem hypocritical of me for I feed my doggies meat.:)your'e doing your best!

[sunsetdrunk]

I have, and most of us have seen reptilians. We call them reptilians, but they are not reptilians. They are amphibians, soft skin. David Icke took the misinturpretation from the Shaman and other stories.

Later Folks
http://www.socialplace.org

[alice1111]

Thanks for the info Paganus.
Shelly, I agree, I wouldn't think of not feeding my dogs meat. Feed my fish worms etc. About not eating much: It has been very surprising. I was always afraid that if I didn't eat this or that or this much etc. that I would get sick. I found that for me, I really need very little, surprisingly little, and that it was just a belief system that told me I needed all that stuff. I actually feel better for it. Fasting has also helped me. Beliefs systems die hard though and I would "NOT" reccomend this to anyone else at all because we are all slightly different in what we need to nourish us or what we believe we need to nourish us. Some people eat tons of food and stay healthy. I personally don't think it matters what you care to eat. Personal choice. I just eat or don't eat what works best for me.:)

ps Maybe the reppies will not find me much of a snack, ha, ha.


Love

Alice

[paganus]

Thanks for the info Paganus.
Shelly, I agree, I wouldn't think of not feeding my dogs meat. Feed my fish worms etc. About not eating much: It has been very surprising. I was always afraid that if I didn't eat this or that or this much etc. that I would get sick. I found that for me, I really need very little, surprisingly little, and that it was just a belief system that told me I needed all that stuff. I actually feel better for it. Fasting has also helped me. Beliefs systems die hard though and I would "NOT" reccomend this to anyone else at all because we are all slightly different in what we need to nourish us or what we believe we need to nourish us. Some people eat tons of food and stay healthy. I personally don't think it matters what you care to eat. Personal choice. I just eat or don't eat what works best for me.:)

ps Maybe the reppies will not find me much of a snack, ha, ha.


Love

Alicejust thought,it being our dream,arnt we just eating ourselves?you are what you eat!