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optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 10:30 PM
Quoted from The Biggest Secret, Page 102, line 22 and 23. "There is no credible evidence whatsoever for the existence of Jesus........" From here Icke continues speak more, to back up his claims..

NO MORE TO SAY THEN!!!!!!

optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 10:49 PM
Conformation please!!!!!!

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-12-2007, 09:23 AM
Cordial Felicitations Mon Amie:



I agree, one could have searched from one end of ancient Israel to the othe end and never find a character named JESUS..


However.......if the Re-Searcher were to broaden the scope of their investigation, 'Cast a Wider Net', with smaller holes, they would encounter characters named Iessus & Yahshua & Yeshua and some other variations.


One in particular comes to mind: Yahshua (Yahweh is Salvation) Ben Yahseph. From someplace called Nazareth


Flavius, the Historian has copious notes on this Character,


Also more contemporary would be the Encyclopedia Judaica, who testifies to the existence of Yahshua, but does not accord Him recognized Messiah Status. The Figurehead of a Non-Normative Sect of Judaism.


What evidence is Mr. Ickes conclusion based upon?


Does Mr. Icke celebrate X-Mas, do you?

Do you have X-Mas Trees?

Do you give or receive X-Mas gifts?


What are you going to do on December 25?


I will be working. To make this a better World for you and all the other Board Members and everybody else in the World.



Your Welcome in advance & Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
12-12-2007, 09:59 AM
Notes attached from within in RED.. RSVP

Cordial Felicitations Mon Amie:

I agree, one could have searched from one end of ancient Israel to the othe end and never find a character named JESUS..


However.......if the Re-Searcher were to broaden the scope of their investigation, 'Cast a Wider Net', with smaller holes, they would encounter characters named Iessus & Yahshua & Yeshua and some other variations.


One in particular comes to mind: Yahshua (Yahweh is Salvation) Ben Yahseph. From someplace called Nazareth


Flavius, the Historian has copious notes on this Character,

Sorry my learned friend, this is more fiction. You were no more there as was I when these cartoons were drawn and written....

The differnence between us is, that I trust no-one to prescribe to me the truth...

Also more contemporary would be the Encyclopedia Judaica, who testifies to the existence of Yahshua, but does not accord Him recognized Messiah Status. The Figurehead of a Non-Normative Sect of Judaism.

More cartoons old fellow!!! Do you have the first edition, I say, now that would be champion now wouldn't it.......

What evidence is Mr. Ickes conclusion based upon?Surely you would know having bought and read the book dear boy!!!

Read The Children of The Matrix, particularly pages 199, 200 and 201. Page 200, line 20 to 23 and Page 201, line 25, through to the middle of page 202
Does Mr. Icke celebrate X-Mas, do you?
No, I don't and having never lived in his house... Well you can gather eh!! I wouldn't know the answer!!Do you have X-Mas Trees?
No, i have palm tree!!Do you give or receive X-Mas gifts?
No, I give gifts and recieve gifts
What are you going to do on December 25?
Have a meal with my family!!

I will be working. To make this a better World for you and all the other Board Members and everybody else in the World.



Your Welcome in advance & Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

optimus pigpot
12-12-2007, 10:00 AM
Notes attached from within in RED.. RSVP

Cordial Felicitations Mon Amie:

I agree, one could have searched from one end of ancient Israel to the othe end and never find a character named JESUS..


However.......if the Re-Searcher were to broaden the scope of their investigation, 'Cast a Wider Net', with smaller holes, they would encounter characters named Iessus & Yahshua & Yeshua and some other variations.


One in particular comes to mind: Yahshua (Yahweh is Salvation) Ben Yahseph. From someplace called Nazareth


Flavius, the Historian has copious notes on this Character,

Sorry my learned friend, this is more fiction. You were no more there as was I when these cartoons were drawn and written....

The difference between us is, that I trust no-one to prescribe to me the truth...

Also more contemporary would be the Encyclopedia Judaica, who testifies to the existence of Yahshua, but does not accord Him recognized Messiah Status. The Figurehead of a Non-Normative Sect of Judaism.

More cartoons old fellow!!! Do you have the first edition, I say, now that would be champion now wouldn't it.......

What evidence is Mr. Ickes conclusion based upon?Surely you would know having bought and read the book dear boy!!!

Read The Children of The Matrix, particularly pages 199, 200 and 201. Page 200, line 20 to 23 and Page 201, line 25, through to the middle of page 202
Does Mr. Icke celebrate X-Mas, do you?
No, I don't and having never lived in his house... Well you can gather eh!! I wouldn't know the answer!!Do you have X-Mas Trees?
No, i have palm tree!!Do you give or receive X-Mas gifts?
No, I give gifts and recieve gifts
What are you going to do on December 25?
Have a meal with my family!!

I will be working. To make this a better World for you and all the other Board Members and everybody else in the World.



Your Welcome in advance & Very Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-12-2007, 10:30 AM
BOBO:


Have we not: Walked the 'Poodle of Inaccurate Lamentations' around the Block before?


You know we have.


The Name we want to put before the Public Eye is : YAHSHUA (Yahweh is Salvation), than in parentheses; lower case, jesus.


This is a Vital Component of the Great Awakening


Your original post is a little sparse in detail. What are your criteria for acceptable evidence?


Feel free to correct me if I am wrong,but, your entire Premise is based upon one Book, and that what this book says is infallible.


No other book or researcher can dispute this?


Dis-Agreeing is bothersome to you?


Well Boo-Fucking-Hoo



Squirt me a coupla tears, Build a Bridge & Cross on Over Sista! or Not.....



Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-12-2007, 10:37 AM
#1: A TREE, AFFIXED IN UPRIGHT POSITION SO AS TO NOT TOPPLE OVER


#2: AN EXCHANGE OF GIFTS


#3: FEASTING




How veddy SATURNALIAN


Meh

blue
12-12-2007, 10:59 AM
Jesus Never Walked On Earth. Nor Did Krishna Nor Any Other Guy Who Shares Similar Stuff Like Jesus. Its All Been Created. There Is No Proof That Jesus Existed. Jesus And His Words Are All Been Made Up.these Are All Stories.

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-12-2007, 11:31 AM
Jesus Never Walked On Earth. Nor Did Krishna Nor Any Other Guy Who Shares Similar Stuff Like Jesus. Its All Been Created. There Is No Proof That Jesus Existed. Jesus And His Words Are All Been Made Up.these Are All Stories..




Cordial Felicitations Blue:

As compelling as your and Optimus Pigpots assertions are. Some Evidence would Amplify your Position.


I am hearing the "UNTYPED QUESTION MARK'.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

celtic isis
12-12-2007, 12:00 PM
Quoted from The Biggest Secret, Page 102, line 22 and 23. "There is no credible evidence whatsoever for the existence of Jesus........" From here Icke continues speak more, to back up his claims..

NO MORE TO SAY THEN!!!!!!

jesus was either a wiseman who did actually exist or he is symbolism for something else, for the esoteric core truths...either way, he tried to wake humankind up to the esoteric gnostic truths and well, it didn't work did it.

i do feel jesus existed but not in the way religon/religious crap portrays him!

Icke is NOT SAYING THAT JESUS DIDN'T EXIST, he is saying that there's no credible evidence in his view to support that he existed and people shouldn't just blindly believe that he did. It's not the same thing, he's just saying it to make people see how many loophole uncertainties there are in their dogma lol

celtic isis
12-12-2007, 12:01 PM
#1: A TREE, AFFIXED IN UPRIGHT POSITION SO AS TO NOT TOPPLE OVER


#2: AN EXCHANGE OF GIFTS


#3: FEASTING




How veddy SATURNALIAN


Meh

or Nimrodian lol

optimus pigpot
12-12-2007, 12:14 PM
BOBO:


Have we not: Walked the 'Poodle of Inaccurate Lamentations' around the Block before?


You know we have.


The Name we want to put before the Public Eye is : YAHSHUA (Yahweh is Salvation), than in parentheses; lower case, jesus.


This is a Vital Component of the Great Awakening


Your original post is a little sparse in detail. What are your criteria for acceptable evidence?


Feel free to correct me if I am wrong,but, your entire Premise is based upon one Book, and that what this book says is infallible.
You are on the David Icke web site disputing his claims... I suggest you really read all of his books Snoops

No other book or researcher can dispute this?
Where is you're absolute proof. Evidenced, articulate, 100% vindicated proof. Oh!! You have none again!!!

Dis-Agreeing is bothersome to you?
No, agreeing with prescribed shit is your choice!!!

Well Boo-Fucking-Hoo

That's it then OLD MAN That's all you have just plain old MESSIANIC JEW BOY YAHWEHANISTIC crap.

Squirt me a coupla tears, Build a Bridge & Cross on Over Sista! or Not.....

No Snoops, It's took the Leader of the Pigpotabots to front up to you and your shit... So we've had a verbal scrap, you lost, The Free World won. Now FUCK OFF and KEEP YOUR WELL MANNERED SHIT TO YOURSELF...

Because I never realised this that WE are talking on David Icke's website. Not the fucking Conservative or Labour Party or ADL website.

You're here stand up and say it loud, I've read Icke, I understand it!! And I'm proud!!!!!!!!!


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Optimus pigpot..... message ends

optimus pigpot
12-12-2007, 12:24 PM
This whole fucking site seems to be devoted to or for the enrichment of established religions. Yes, I'm sure that a mod will tell me differently but the actual reality of it is. It is not different.

If we need to get testy and accurate Snoops came at me first challenging what he "Percieved what he thought Optimus pigpot did at Christmas." He knows fuck all about me, but still made assupmtions which I find offensive. Will he be challenged by the mods?..... We'll see!!!!!!!!

Fairness for all,

We'll see........

optimus pigpot
12-12-2007, 12:28 PM
or Nimrodian lol

Where I can do fuck all, all day and make up ryhmes that sound good for Avatars...

Just because I jumped on your Christian bandagon and rattled it, doesn't mean you have to join with somebody else whose a little like you but really despises you!!!!!!!!

blue
12-12-2007, 12:34 PM
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Some Evidence would Amplify your Position.


not the bible or any other yahweh, yashua book as an evidence pls. those are out dated and for the illiterates.

eternal_spirit
12-12-2007, 12:51 PM
not the bible or any other yahweh, yashua book as an evidence pls. those are out dated and for the illiterates.

..............

This snoofy has posted nothing but Yaweh this yashua that for nearly a year. *Sigh*

blue
12-12-2007, 03:00 PM
..............

This snoofy has posted nothing but Yaweh this yashua that for nearly a year. *Sigh*

you're right and i agree.

zero1
12-12-2007, 06:24 PM
Dis-Agreeing is bothersome to you?


Well Boo-Fucking-Hoo



Squirt me a coupla tears, Build a Bridge & Cross on Over Sista! or Not.....



Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Right. Optimus Pigpot needs a wahmbulance. Honestly, the naked immaturity of some here on this forum is startling.

Yahweh God will destroy the idiots, we can only hope. Or @ least send them somewhere else, so they can stop f**king up our world...

paganus
12-12-2007, 06:28 PM
'jesus' is a rip-off of several Pagan Gods.

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-12-2007, 06:36 PM
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM




AHROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!



ES: You, yourself, have Posted: 'Jesus teachings contradict all the teachings of the old testament and the god of the old testament'.



is yahshua yahweh, is yahshua satans brother.


You have called me an idiot, yet here is evidence that it is you who is the IDIOT.

Now I am not calling you an IDIOT, but you have left quite a snail-trail of evidence to support that assertion, if one were to cast it.



Furthermore: You consider yourself 'Enlightened' :rolleyes:, and you Post erroneous conclusions about the Book of Yahweh, without stating: "IMO"


This is Snoops "ACTION LEVEL'. when I 'Bolt' out of the Snoopsnuffleopagus Cave to correct an erroneous assertion that was presented as accurate.


As long as the Book of Yahweh is a subject for conversation, SNOOPSNUFFLEOPAGUS shall be on DUTYYYYY.




DON"T DINE ON SWINE!!



PORKY, yeah you!: Start a Thread, Call it: David Ickes Echo-Chamber.


You can be the #1 Cheerleader, I will allow you that.



Always a Pleasure & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

eternal_spirit
12-12-2007, 06:54 PM
Quote snoofydraws
You have called me an idiot, yet here is evidence that it is you who is the IDIOT.

Now I am not calling you an IDIOT, but you have left quite a snail-trail of evidence to support that assertion, if one were to cast it.



Furthermore: You consider yourself 'Enlightened' :rolleyes:, and you Post erroneous conclusions about the Book of Yahweh, without stating: "IMO"


..............

I cannot recall calling you an idiot. But I'll call you one now. you IDIOTIC imbecile.

All you ever post is absolute and utter spiel about yahwe this yashua that:rolleyes: I'm not alone, in realising you're on a one man mission of insanity. And are one of the most brainwashed people on this Forum.

I post on many topics. So, I add much more knowledge to this Forum than you.

I've never claimed to be enlightened either. But do have much knowledge covering a wide range of topics. So, if I can see beyond the Yahwee myth that makes me more enlightened than you.

If anyone here was interested in Yahwee, they'd go read about it.

I for one, couldn't give a shiny shite about your precious fraud Yahwee, or any other religion It's a constructed illusion in your mind. It's a Jewish thing to claim Yahwee is the real Christ, Jesus. And I know that many Jews are anti-christ and Satanists.

I'll go bump the thread about Yahwee cults and let people see how you defend these murderers who do what they do in the name of Yahwee. If this is the so called untruth that I've commented upon that you refer to.

BTW, what the hell are you doing on this Forum?

snoopsnuffleopagus
12-12-2007, 08:08 PM
ES: I've never claimed to be enlightened either. But do have much knowledge covering a wide range of topics. So, if I can see beyond the Yahwee myth that makes me more enlightened than you.


SS: No you have not. Your Postings prove you have NO understanding of Yahweh, like most people, DUE TO, distortions such as you yourself provide.


Oh! the Irony.




ES: If anyone here was interested in Yahwee, they'd go read about it.



SS: Precisely




ES: I for one, couldn't give a shiny shite about your precious fraud Yahwee,


SS: Than why post so much on a subject you do not understand? :confused:



ES: or any other religion It's a constructed illusion in your mind. It's a Jewish thing to claim Yahwee is the real Christ, Jesus. And I know that
many Jews are anti-christ and Satanists.


SS: An excellent example of how devoid of understanding you are. So "OFF THE CHART" inaccurate. How do you come up with stuff like this? Do you have writers or is this your thought?




ES:I'll go bump the thread about Yahwee cults and let people see how you defend these murderers who do what they do in the name of Yahwee. If this is the so called untruth that I've commented upon that you refer to.




SS: OOOOOOH! :( NOT!


Probably people with the same level of understanding of the Book as you.


ES: BTW, what the hell are you doing on this Forum?[/QUOTE] :mad::mad::mad:



SS: :):):) Ima justa little old janitor, addressing issues of Quality Control, ES, perhaps, if you were to preface your 'understandings' with: "As I understand it",, neccessary correction may be provided.



The Book of Yahweh is very Clear



You: ES: Are very Confused



Snoops knows why you don't like it. ;)



Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

ninja17
12-12-2007, 08:25 PM
Jesus And His Words Are All Been Made Up

In every Myth there is Truth.

"The Kingdom of "God" is within you"

"Dont do harm onto others as you wouldnt want them to harm you the same"(?)

etc.

paganus
12-12-2007, 09:14 PM
In every Myth there is Truth.

"The Kingdom of "God" is within you"

"Dont do harm onto others as you wouldnt want them to harm you the same"(?)

etc.just a rip-off of karma...

zero1
12-12-2007, 09:37 PM
just a rip-off of karma...

Karma and divine revelation or God are not mutually exclusive, by any means.

ninja17
12-12-2007, 09:46 PM
just a rip-off of karma...

Thats too blurry.

Karma and divine revelation or God are not mutually exclusive, by any means.

Right,imo.

paganus
12-12-2007, 09:48 PM
Thats too blurry.



Right,imo.well,karma is a non-abrahamic concept isnt it?

ninja17
12-12-2007, 10:03 PM
well,karma is a non-abrahamic concept isnt it?

Because it is not mentioned by the word in the bible?

I have not much red the bible but i guess you will find something like karma in there.

paganus
12-12-2007, 10:05 PM
Because it is not mentioned by the word in the bible?

I have not much red the bible but i guess you will find something like karma in there.any belief which came up with the story of job cant belive in karma.or justice of any kind!

eternal_spirit
12-12-2007, 10:40 PM
Because it is not mentioned by the word in the bible?

I have not much red the bible but i guess you will find something like karma in there.

............

Depends if you think about heaven and hell
as a judgment of Karma.

paganus
12-12-2007, 10:42 PM
............

Depends if you think about heaven and hell
as a judgment of Karma.an eternal hell would be unjust.and pointless.

eternal_spirit
12-12-2007, 10:55 PM
Quote: Snoopsnuffleopagusof

Ima justa little old janitor, addressing issues Snoopsnuffleopagusof Quality Control,

...............

Fair enough snoofs I can believe that. And have noticed you do post about other topics other than Yahwe

ninja17
13-12-2007, 12:28 AM
any belief which came up with the story of job cant belive in karma.or justice of any kind!

Why?This story is just about a test of one of the "best" servants of God.A christian would never see him/herself as one of the "best" servants.Thats why this story is more like role-play i think.It reminds me to "Faust".

And actually you can find karma in there..

Job 5:

17 "Blessed is the man whom God corrects;
so do not despise the discipline of the Almighty. [a]

18 For he wounds, but he also binds up;
he injures, but his hands also heal.

Job 33:

26 He prays to God and finds favor with him,
he sees God's face and shouts for joy;
he is restored by God to his righteous state.

Job 34:

11 He repays a man for what he has done;
he brings upon him what his conduct deserves.

12 It is unthinkable that God would do wrong,
that the Almighty would pervert justice.

Depends if you think about heaven and hell
as a judgment of Karma.

No,i dont think that.Thats one reason why i am not a christian.
Karma is "judgement" or rather that whut you reap in the Now.

john white
13-12-2007, 01:12 AM
well,karma is a non-abrahamic concept isnt it?Because it is not mentioned by the word in the bible?

I have not much red the bible but I guess you will find something like karma in there.

"as you sow, so shall you reap"

Basically covers it IMO

ninja17
13-12-2007, 01:50 AM
Thank you John White:)

optimus pigpot
13-12-2007, 04:29 AM
Hi John,

So what's your take on this bullshit then..

Sorry, not putting words into anyone's mouth.... AHEM sorry I should say AMEN!!!!! No, no right first time AHEM!!!!!!