Hillary Clinton shapeshifting evidence!

[truthdog]

Here is a video of Hillary Clinton at a private party, in which the film reveals that when you slow it down, reptilian parts will be revealed. I have captured many stills below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWeoc53XRMI

For best shapeshifting results, you have to time it just right. Stop at the following times...
00:47 oh and by the way she's giving the horned devil/ Baphomet sign.

00:54 00:59, watch it closely. Pause and play, pause, play. you will see her finger elongate into that claw.

4:27, she's fast here. But that's pretty darn sharp for a finger. okay now at 5:00, also notice her thumb elongates as well. I've noticed this seems to be a common occurrence with Reptilian shapeshifters.

5:03, she wearing some gremling gloves or what's going on here? As you play and pause watch the dramatic and crooked monster hooked reptilan hand at 5:03. Incredible.

Finally towards the end as her mouth opens, just as the video os George bush's tooth popping out, Hilarys' tooth does that also.

And now, the stills.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/hillaryclaw.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/finger.png

stills from 5:00 to 5:03
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/1claw.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/2claw.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/claw3.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/claw4.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/claw5.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/HillaryHand.jpg

[truthdog]

continued still

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/hillaryface.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/mouth1.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/mouth2.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/mouth3.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/mouth4.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/mouh6.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/Reptilianman.jpg

[truthdog]

last of the stills

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/finalthumb.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/hand2.png
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/hand3.png

So with the above compiled images, I do believe that there is some shapeshifting evidence there.

[truthdog]

what is going on? I've had 43 views and no replies. You know I really spent a lot of my time compiling these photos together, not to mention cropping them in Photoshop.

[greenleaf]

I just wish i was smoking an oz of what you're on to see this as reptilian...I'm not denying she isn't one...just this is no proof.

[tim the enchanter]

what is going on? I've had 43 views and no replies. You know I really spent a lot of my time compiling these photos together, not to mention cropping them in Photoshop.


No offence, but I can't see anything to be honest. Doesn't mean there isn't anything, but, it's very subtle unless you realy know what you're looking for.

[truthdog]

What?! How can you not see that???.... Did you watch the youtube movie or not? Clearly..that is not a human hand. I mean come on. Look at the hook of the claw, I outlined it for you as if it wasn't already obvious or not.

[woghd]

Truthdog, they are blind.

This is actually one of my favorite vids, because it was taken a great risk using a tie-pin cam at some sort of Reptilian Afterparty.

You see great displays of the "finglonger effect", lots of morphing, etc. Not too much eye evidence, but plenty of every other kind of evidence, including the black clothing.

Watching five fingers morph into three and back to five is amazing, and truthdog, you didn't even highlight half of the cool stuff in this video. My hats off to you. Keep up the good work.

Anyone who says it looks normal is in denial in my opinion.

Archangel

[neon]

Dog good one man, excellent pictures creeped the f out of me. The net around earth is malfunctioning, thank you ONE! our creator.

[gordonfreeman]

The video's quality is not good, but it does so some evidence. Why would some idiot photoshopped the clip? Not everyone has photoshop you know?!

Earth humans these days........;)

[truthdog]

Sorry I snapped guys, thanks for all the comments. It felt that this board was dead for a while or something.
We'll punch through this matrix yet! You'll see:D

[paganus]

but would you still vote for her?

[abrilliantone]

I enjoyed this video because it showed more examples of shape-shifting then just eye evidence. That most people claim is due to lightening :rolleyes: rather you believe in them or not it's o.k. They believe in you and even have a surprise for you. Which is being revealed right in front you :D So don't worry about if they exist or not. Soon, real life in your face proof is just around the corner. p.s nice work on that truthdog

[neutron flux]

And what of all the photographers there, happily snapping away with Hillary and the gang quite unperturbed at being photographed while "shifting", while only the tie cam can pick up such things. Where is the party? Who's filming?

Oh, and a question unrelated to this video but of shape-shifting: when a so-called shapeshifter dies, what form does it leave? I'm assuming it would shift back into lizzie form and when it has decomposed would leave a reptile skeleton. Why haven't doctors, coroners and the myriad of people involved with the deaths of people in power, for example, come forward with tales of reptile bodies and such?

[truthdog]

but would you still vote for her?

haha of course not. That woman.. has invaded my dreams. Bit me like a vampire, stabbed me, and shapeshifted. I'm gonna write a thread on that.

Why haven't doctors, coroners and the myriad of people involved with the deaths of people in power, for example, come forward with tales of reptile bodies and such?

I think I've heard somewhere before that when the queen mum died, her coffin was huge. Besides.. there is no such thing as death. ;)

[paganus]

haha of course not. That woman.. has invaded my dreams. Bit me like a vampire, stabbed me, and shapeshifted. I'm gonna write a thread on that.

Why haven't doctors, coroners and the myriad of people involved with the deaths of people in power, for example, come forward with tales of reptile bodies and such?

I think I've heard somewhere before that when the queen mum died, her coffin was huge. Besides.. there is no such thing as death. ;)wow! like an astral attack?

[truthdog]

wow! like an astral attack?

Yes! I just posted a thread. And just to let you know I don't take any hallucinogens or drugs.

[alice1111]

Thanks truthdog for taking the time to do all this work. I had to log back in to watch it. Very interesting.:o:eek:

[truthdog]

Thanks truthdog for taking the time to do all this work. I had to log back in to watch it. Very interesting.:o:eek:

no prob. It is interesting, the first time I watched it I didn't think there was anything but when she claps her hands together in normal speed. You can STILL see the shapeshift. Watch and you'll see.

[truthdog]

This was removed a long time ago from a website, but I found this in my files. This is a technique someone used, I think ITC. And caught Powell shapeshifting.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/colinpowellmovie1shortGIFSEQUENCE.gif

[neon]

This was removed a long time ago from a website, but I found this in my files. This is a technique someone used, I think ITC. And caught Powell shapeshifting.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/colinpowellmovie1shortGIFSEQUENCE.gif

What the? :eek: you should spread this everywhere!!!

[woghd]

This was removed a long time ago from a website, but I found this in my files. This is a technique someone used, I think ITC. And caught Powell shapeshifting.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/colinpowellmovie1shortGIFSEQUENCE.gif

This is very good, can we put this on realshapeshifters.com? This is very similar to what we see on reptile woman, the hillary party, and other good videos.

Arch

[truthdog]

Of course you put this on your website. I used to talk to this person for a while and she tryed this technique out on others like Tony Blair and George Bush. I still have the files, let me see if I can dig them up. The website has removed the pictures and GIFS.

[umbrex]

What?! How can you not see that???.... Did you watch the youtube movie or not? Clearly..that is not a human hand. I mean come on. Look at the hook of the claw, I outlined it for you as if it wasn't already obvious or not.

come on!! look at the quality of that video. all your socalled proof can easily be ghost images or whatever

[maggie]

I am worried about putting this on the forum but here it goes.Billary of course has her 24 hours security.That is a fact.What no body knows is that once a month her security takes her to see her lover.Who happens to be a woman.All of Hollywood knows that she is gay but the American public is in the dark.Billary is for sure a reptile cause reptiles are neither male nor female.They have cycles in which to mate thats it.She had her cycle that brought Chelsea in the world ,the rest......Well now you know why Bill has to look elsewhere.

[truthdog]

I am not the maker of that video, but you can use it on your website, and yes the quality isn't good.

[woghd]

I am not the maker of that video, but you can use it on your website, and yes the quality isn't good.

Don't you love people who attack the messenger?

Honestly I the the level of quality on these videos is perfectly adequite to show the evidence. Compare the quality to that of the Zapruder film (kennedy assassination) or to the patterson footage (Famous bigfoot footage). Compared to otherstuff that's out there, the quality is very good.

The argument that less than perfect video does not count as proof is ridiculous! Have you ever seen crappy low rez security cam footage? Well it's used in court every day, and the quality isn't half as good as these reptilian videos.

I regect the critic's "low quality" argument. It's BS.

Archangel

[truthdog]

Just a note on the Collin video, I am not proposing that he is a shape shifter. It could easily be something misinterpreted, however I will not deny the appearance and change of his face. You can see that his eyebrows come to a slant, the nose elongating, and the eyes protruding. Then again, this could only be something entirely different.
There is something I need to point out with this picture. On the last frame of the sequence you can clearly see his other eye literally bulging from the socket. This is one feature that reptilians are supposed to have.

[cloudgazer]

I can definitely see it Truthdog, thanks for posting this.

[cloudgazer]

I am worried about putting this on the forum but here it goes.Billary of course has her 24 hours security.That is a fact.What no body knows is that once a month her security takes her to see her lover.Who happens to be a woman.All of Hollywood knows that she is gay but the American public is in the dark.Billary is for sure a reptile cause reptiles are neither male nor female.They have cycles in which to mate thats it.She had her cycle that brought Chelsea in the world ,the rest......Well now you know why Bill has to look elsewhere.

Omg that is weird. Maybe that's why the androgynous look is promoted in the fashion industry.

[truthdog]

Omg that is weird. Maybe that's why the androgynous look is promoted in the fashion industry.

Yes, and this is not to offend anyone here. I have noticed an incredibly large increase in Bis and Gays. Many teenagers are being influenced by the media to act this way believe it or not. I am not sure why the global elite want to promote this, and then why they don't want you to be married in a homosexual relationship? In truth, the soul has no gender, at least that's what I truly believe.

[devyn]

I'm sorry, but I'm just not seeing it. What I am seeing is a video shot with a low quality camera and slow-mo trail effects which can distort the image. What I mean by this is try waving your hand infront of your face quickly you will notice a trail like effect. Now combine that with the low quality and the slow motion and when she claps and two or more fingers are together it does look like a claw but it's not. Fast motion of the hands, low quality and slow motion effects can make anyone look like shape shifter in one way or another.

Truthdog, they are blind.

This is actually one of my favorite vids, because it was taken a great risk using a tie-pin cam at some sort of Reptilian Afterparty.

You see great displays of the "finglonger effect", lots of morphing, etc. Not too much eye evidence, but plenty of every other kind of evidence, including the black clothing.

Watching five fingers morph into three and back to five is amazing, and truthdog, you didn't even highlight half of the cool stuff in this video. My hats off to you. Keep up the good work.

Anyone who says it looks normal is in denial in my opinion.

Archangel

What does the black clothing have to do with anything?

Don't you love people who attack the messenger?

Honestly I the the level of quality on these videos is perfectly adequite to show the evidence. Compare the quality to that of the Zapruder film (kennedy assassination) or to the patterson footage (Famous bigfoot footage). Compared to otherstuff that's out there, the quality is very good.

The argument that less than perfect video does not count as proof is ridiculous! Have you ever seen crappy low rez security cam footage? Well it's used in court every day, and the quality isn't half as good as these reptilian videos.

I regect the critic's "low quality" argument. It's BS.

Archangel

No one is attacking the messenger. They just aren't seeing the same thing as you. That does not mean they are blind. I have nothing against Woghd and Truthdog, I do appreciate the work you guys do in finding the vids and analyzing them and all but when you claim low quality as evidence and expect everyone to see as you do and get mad or reject what they say it only diminishes your work and reputation. Remember, incredible claims require incredible proof. Keep doing what you are doing, one day the reps will be exposed. :)

[jim fear]

I respect everyone who is putting in all the time and hard work into providing evidence against the lizards. However it’s always the same low quality video evidence never clear video foots, wit no pixelation or bad lighting.

How do you know that these things CAN be filmed? Cameras work with light, and they might be out of phase and not reflect the light in the same manner as regular objects? Just a thought.

[humanswin]

That hillary clinton is another shit video..wtf? her eyes didnt even have slit pupils.All these phony videos and there creators are quickly being exposed on YT.Most of these videos are from the same hoaxer under different aliases..I bet half the people who are commenting on this crappy video are the same person!

[truthdog]

Um guys? What's going on here. I pulled this off of a FLV file. x__X Icke why didn't you tell us..

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/Picture1.png

[tinmenace]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILfGVTwoQ0

Amazing that she even mentions not being an alien with such seriousness!

[alice1111]

Why have most the pictures been deleted?

Alice

[woghd]

Um guys? What's going on here. I pulled this off of a FLV file. x__X Icke why didn't you tell us..

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/Picture1.png

Whoa !

That's amazing! What video is this from?

Archangel

[truthdog]

It's from Archangels video, which I thought was yours. o.O

[deano]

Um guys? What's going on here. I pulled this off of a FLV file. x__X Icke why didn't you tell us..

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/Picture1.png

can someone link me to the proper video?

[woghd]

It's from Archangels video, which I thought was yours. o.O

Sorry, not my video. There's a lot of people out there using my name all of a sudden, pretending to be me. A lot of archangel-hate-sites popping up out of the woodwork too. I think it's all part of some disinfo campaign.

All I have are THIS ID here, woghd911 at hotmail dot com, and woghd on Youtube. That's it. All the other angels are not Archangels, they are Fake-angels.

Archangel

[marc_o]

I find people who post videos and purport to have found shape-shifing reptilians highly annoying. They offer zero proof whatsoever, and just undermine the credibility of the genuine concerns of this movement. You could find any shitty old film and wait till the light catches someones eye and pause it, then say 'oh look he/she is a reptilian'. Its a crock.

You say yourself it took hours to edit the video. Dont waste you life making these videos - my god! What a waste of life! Go and spread the word by talking to people, and attempting to uncover more conclusive evidence to actually sway peoples opinions, rather than making us all look crazy with lame videos of shapeshifters.

[marc_o]

In response to this question:



Why haven't doctors, coroners and the myriad of people involved with the deaths of people in power, for example, come forward with tales of reptile bodies and such?

You wrote:
Besides.. there is no such thing as death. ;)

Thats not a proper answer to a question, I feel was very interesting; the answer I'd would love to hear from somebody. Presumably they (reptilians) die on their frequency as so not to leave a reptilian body behind?



Don't you love people who attack the messenger?

Honestly I the the level of quality on these videos is perfectly adequite to show the evidence. Compare the quality to that of the Zapruder film (kennedy assassination) or to the patterson footage (Famous bigfoot footage). Compared to otherstuff that's out there, the quality is very good.

The argument that less than perfect video does not count as proof is ridiculous! Have you ever seen crappy low rez security cam footage? Well it's used in court every day, and the quality isn't half as good as these reptilian videos.

I regect the critic's "low quality" argument. It's BS.

Archangel

Okay, where do i start. Videos used as evidence for things must be conclusive or contain conclusive elements in them to be credible. The JFK tape, although low quality can PROVE the approx trajectory and position of the bullet, thus buliding up a picture of what happened; a security camera can be used to back up a statement if that video contains conclusive evidence of someone commiting a crime. The quality of the picture doent affect the conlcusion unless the quality stops it from being conclusive- like if someones face cannot be seen or is obscured. So I kind of agree with you Archangel, 'low quality' isnt an argument. But bear in mind the video itself isnt evidence in the slightest, and it cannot be proven in the slightest. It can only serve to reinforce the opinion of people who already believe, never to make anyone swallow the red-pill and thusfar the videos have not contained anything to prove the existence of shapeshifting reptilians.

I have noticed an incredibly large increase in Bis and Gays.

- Dude, unless you are everywhere you might be able to make this assetion based on your own meeting with people across the world, or country. But you just cant. Perhaps society is more accepting of gays and bi's now, and thats why they are more open - thus why you have noticed more. If you got that idea from seeing the TV, remember a disproportionate amount of gays are on the Tv than there are in real life.

it’s always the same low quality video evidence never clear video foots, wit no pixelation or bad lighting.

QUOTE]
I agree, the correlation between all shapeshifter videos is the really poor quality and dodgy pixellations, and the reptilian aspects in the videos are commonly standard video imperfections - not shapeshifting. I mean come on- how did someone take this video if they are all reptilians? At a Reptilian party? Why didnt they get made meat meat out of before they left? Its just not viable.

[QUOTE=truthdog;227243]Um guys? What's going on here. I pulled this off of a FLV file. x__X Icke why didn't you tell us..

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/Picture1.png

This has to be a joke. I think I might be taking this a bit too seriously? Was this post a joke? This picture shows nothing.

btw, i'm commited to exposing the threat we face, but when people muddy the water of rational thought with videos and ridiculous explanations and a militant belief that these videos are absolute proof of their assertions, i get really annoyed.

[d3v_]

I find people who post videos and purport to have found shape-shifing reptilians highly annoying. They offer zero proof whatsoever, and just undermine the credibility of the genuine concerns of this movement. You could find any shitty old film and wait till the light catches someones eye and pause it, then say 'oh look he/she is a reptilian'. Its a crock.

You say yourself it took hours to edit the video. Dont waste you life making these videos - my god! What a waste of life! Go and spread the word by talking to people, and attempting to uncover more conclusive evidence to actually sway peoples opinions, rather than making us all look crazy with lame videos of shapeshifters.


well said.

they annoy the fuck out of me becuase the videos are so fucking shit quality. anyone can make out what they want from a slowed-down video.

fucking idiots.

[woghd]

well said.

they annoy the fuck out of me becuase the videos are so fucking shit quality. anyone can make out what they want from a slowed-down video.

fucking idiots.

Well, there's $25,000 for you if you can prove our video is fake. Nobody's done it yet. If it's so fake, you'd think somebody would have reproduced it by now, and shown how it was done.

It's either real, or a fake so clever that it's impossible to debunk.

REPTILIANS ARE REAL !

Archangel

[d3v_]

Yes I know they are real. I am one of the few to of seen one for real, so I know for a fact they are.

And I'm not saying your videos are a fake. What I'm saying is that they show nothing solid enough to be called evidence nevermind PROOF. The eye anomalies with the bush video are compelling and so is the reptile women video but the videos are ridicuously shit quality so it's impossible to tell whats an artifiact and what's not.

For fuck sake.

[d3v_]

this is a very good shapeshift video - http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?token=263_1196946544

and youtube user "Hashemsfilms (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Hashemsfilms)" who uplaoded shitloads of these types of videos has been suspended for unknown reaseons??

[marc_o]

I'll give anyone £25,000 to anyone who can prove it is a reptilian.

Works both ways mate, but obviously that doesnt sink in with you does it?

[woghd]

I'll give anyone £25,000 to anyone who can prove it is a reptilian.

Works both ways mate, but obviously that doesnt sink in with you does it?

There is a difference between proof and evidence. If you add up all of the evidence, all the shitty videos, the few good ones, the photos, the history, the eyewitness accounts, there is enough proof for any court of law. The burden of proof only works in one direction, then it flips.

example:
I say there are reptilians.
You say no.
The burden of proof falls to me, because you cannot proove a negative.
I say so-n-so has seen one. Now the burden of proof falls to you.
You say that's heresay, I cannot use the testimony of another. Burden falls back to me.
I present a video.

Burden of proof now falls to the opposition to show that the video was faked or invalid in some other way. Until that happens, the reality of shapeshifting reptilians remains unchallenged. There are more and more videos every day, and not a single one has ever been scientifically debunked.

Archangel

[d3v_]

There are more and more videos every day, and not a single one has ever been scientifically debunked.

Haha, yeah, but has a professional video buff actually sat down, watched these videos are confirmed they are NOT artificts?

Get someone to do that and film what they say and you'll be more believable.

[zarah]

this is a very good shapeshift video - http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?token=263_1196946544

and youtube user "Hashemsfilms (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Hashemsfilms)" who uplaoded shitloads of these types of videos has been suspended for unknown reaseons??

What the funk was happening to his face? To me that's more compelling that the 'reptile woman', because of the quality of the footage.

Does anyone know what's happening with her interview? Is it still all up in the air? Does she deny being repiltian? If someone showed me some home movie footage of me looking how she did, Id be so so freaked.

[d3v_]

yes it is a good quality vid, that's what did it for me too.

that shapeshift women vid is such low quality that you cannot be sure if the anomalies are artiacts or not.

[paganus]

we are made of atoms in a certain pattern same as everything.shape shift is entierly possible if you can change the pattern.water to steam...

[zarah]

yes it is a good quality vid, that's what did it for me too.

that shapeshift women vid is such low quality that you cannot be sure if the anomalies are artiacts or not.

Im no expert but the reptile woman video does have a lot going on, too much for coincidence, I think. There was no reaction from any of the observers in the American piece you gave the link to. I wonder why..

[d3v_]

we are made of atoms in a certain pattern same as everything.shape shift is entierly possible if you can change the pattern.water to steam...

yes m8, but there are equally compelling arguments about shapeshifting not being possible regardless of our vibrational form. It's hard to beleive anything.

althought I am swayed to beleive shaepshifting is possible and real, but only just. I used to fully beleive this shit whole heartedly.

[dmessick]

Hillary Clinton is creepy anyways. With all the morphing she's doing in the video maybe should invest in a suit like the one from A Scanner Darkly so no one sees her, it seems to work pretty well.

[woghd]

Haha, yeah, but has a professional video buff actually sat down, watched these videos are confirmed they are NOT artificts?

Get someone to do that and film what they say and you'll be more believable.

Please don't take offense, but if you had actually done some research on this, you would know that there have been eight such attempts.

Archangel

[d3v_]

Please don't take offense, but if you had actually done some research on this, you would know that there have been eight such attempts.

Archangel

ok good. where on the site are they?

[d3v_]

i've just watched some of your videos over again and it's getting beyond a fucking joke. why don't you post some half decent quality version on your site and not youtube cos they reduce the quality a fuckload when u upload them. then we'll fucking see for real or not.

[emanuel]

I do believe there is a possibility in shape-shifting but the problem for me, with regard to these vids (I have seen many more), is that:-

a) If it were legit', why would they allow it to be aired if they control the news stations?
b) If I were a news reporter watching some dudes face change like that before my eye's.......well.......what would you do?!?! Hold the mic, eagerly awaiting the next sentence........????

[danucrom]

The common theme with all these "proof" videos is the really shit quality that they all share.

[abrilliantone]

I do believe there is a possibility in shape-shifting but the problem for me, with regard to these vids (I have seen many more), is that:-

a) If it were legit', why would they allow it to be aired if they control the news stations?
b) If I were a news reporter watching some dudes face change like that before my eye's.......well.......what would you do?!?! Hold the mic, eagerly awaiting the next sentence........????

To answer question a) They know by them censoring these videos it would only give more credit to the ones that our posting them. (If these videos are fakes and hoaxes then why did they ban them from being aired... Which would be what people would start to think and say.) No they don't want that so it's better for them to just let them be seen. And laugh at them and ridicule them with the rest of the folks. Because after all shape shifting reptiles only exists in movies and in your imagination right.- yeah,right :rolleyes:

To answer question b) Shape-shifting can be seen on videos because unlike a human being the camera isn't under a belief system. So it would film everything that is placed infront of it. With no prejudice to what it is recording. Also imagine that your a news reporter and that you saw George H.W Bush slightly shape-shift. You then go to tell your editor what you saw. Well needless to say you'll be laughed at. Then he or she might have you committed to a insane asylum, give you some time off (hey,if you wanted a vacation you could've just asked for it) or you'll have a new assignment. Chasing down leads on u.f.o's and bigfoot sightings. Because after all shape shifting reptiles only exists in movies and in your imagination right.- yeah,right :rolleyes:

[on the road]

The common theme with all these "proof" videos is the really shit quality that they all share.

yeah that and they dont prove shit.

[i_am]

Can we stay on topic please.

This is not the place for airing personal issues. Please use the PM function.

[woghd]

I don't think anyone says any of these videos are "proof", I think evidence is a much better word. It's evidence for people to look at, then accept it or regect it. Evidence is put together with other evidence, and then examine by a (hopefully) impartial and sane mind, and a conclusion drawn.

After many such conclusions are drawn, only then do you have anything resembling "proof".

Let's not even get into "Truth"

Archangel

[humanswin]

YOU WIN WOGHD! I see my comment was removed,it was on topic.So that is the way it is here here on the woghd/icke forum.The topic being phony videos ,like the hillary clinton one THAT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING!The truth has a price here,you paid for it.MUST BE TRUE.

[logic bomb]

YOU WIN WOGHD! I see my comment was removed,it was on topic.So that is the way it is here here on the woghd/icke forum.The topic being phony videos ,like the hillary clinton one THAT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING!The truth has a price here,you paid for it.MUST BE TRUE.

Don't worry about it Humanswin.. Woghd/Archangel is a well known spook and dis-info artist and has been for years. His site and his presecence on this forum is for no other reason than to discredit this material by presenting absolute rubbish as "evidence" therefore putting any sane minded person of the idea.

[emanuel]

I don't trust people who try to make absolute that which they view on a video or read in a book. The only absolute is what you experience. I pay more attention to people who have had different experiences to my own. My Mother has told me of her experiences with ghosts, though I have never seen one (I don't think), I still believe what she says is true from her perspective, like all those who say they have seen nessie, bigfoot, greys etc etc.

Don't believe everything you see on TV just because you want it to 'BE'!

What the vids SUGGEST may be true, but until I see someone shape-shift with my own eyes I will not say it is certain.

I KNOW I have seen ufo's (leave that for another thread) on two separate ocassion, but I would not expect anyone to believe me (whole-heartedly) because I said it. The only people I expect to believe what I saw are the two other people that were there and witnessed it with me. :)

[woghd]

YOU WIN WOGHD! I see my comment was removed,it was on topic.So that is the way it is here here on the woghd/icke forum.The topic being phony videos ,like the hillary clinton one THAT DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING!The truth has a price here,you paid for it.MUST BE TRUE.


Humanswin, I don't pay anyone for anything. You used to be a promoter of shapeshifting reptilians, and now you have thrown in with known Alan Watters, and are debunking the idea, even to the point of debunking Icke, his moderators, and this forum. What has happened to you?

Archangel

[thedame]

Guys, can we NOT resort to attacking eachother on these threads. There's already been some post deletions because of arguements. Anymore and this thread will have to be rant-roomed.

As I_am said, please use PMs to air your differences.

[graflok]

Regardless of the various opinions that people seem to have about videos of this
type, it seems that they have played a part in creating a certain effect on
Hillary herself.

Enough of an effect that she apparently felt a need to refute it on a national TV
talk show.

Note that this little "conversation" is obviously scripted in advance (as are
all so-called talk shows).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILfGVTwoQ0

Also note that Ellen asks only, "What's the biggest mis-perception, do you think?"

Hillary then seems to somehow know what Ellen meant by that vague question
and answers it as if Ellen had asked, "What's the biggest mis-perception
the public has about you?" which seems to be what was scripted.

Hillary answers, "Oh -- you know, I guess that I'm -- you know, some kind of
creature from an alien world, I suppose ..." etc.

***************************

Yeah, we know, Hillary. We know. ;)

Funny thing is Hillary never gets around to saying she isn't. :cool:

[danucrom]

Hillary (before she puts on her makeup) .

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/american-crocodile-emerging-water.jpg

[humanswin]

Humanswin, I don't pay anyone for anything. You used to be a promoter of shapeshifting reptilians, and now you have thrown in with known Alan Watters, and are debunking the idea, even to the point of debunking Icke, his moderators, and this forum. What has happened to you?

Archangel

I dont know who alan watt is really...Nothing happened to me,I just want the reptilian theory to have a fair shot...can you say the same thing? I have written thousands of posts on my bush video,writing people personally and kindly (mostly)to at least look into reptilian theory..researched it thoroughly and tried to give the best responses i could.Purposely not preaching to the choir here,but taking heat from people who had no flipping idea what the hell the bush video was or meant.I must have done something right,there are now almost fifty reptilian type CHANNELS let alone vids since i released bush.Is it my fault that you released reptile woman right after mine..that i happened to have seen it first as a video from zen velocity on yt,with a cartoon dragon at the end? that i wrote the director nathan mashman of perth ausralia who said the girl in the video was a friend's girlfriend in mexico..not a reptile woman.Is it my fault that when i researched archangel systems paranormal team,nothing came up?or that when i finally found stuff on archangel systems(with some guidance) it was very revealing and disturbing info written many years ago.It is my nature to seek the truth,where ever it leads..it has led me to you...all the work I did to get this theory out could be quashed and was,by a watching reptile woman..which will be for ever linked with my video....i am sorry mods,please dont remove this one..it is about reptilian vids and i have to have a chance to defend myself..seriously i have only heard of alan watt on this forum.

[humanswin]

Graflok that is nice that you posted that ellen vid.Right around :45...I dont care if she is shapeshifting or not in this cocktail party video because the fact that she mentions what she does,as you say graflok is good to me,at least shows that they have seen somethings around.It could even be larger than that right? She and others could be scared ,thinking they might shift,make them feel uneasy for a change.I think it is major that she even mentions anything,or stupid...uhhh hillary you might want to not mention alien or the like now a days.Ellen should have asked "so why do you mention alien"....canadian vandal i mean what i say when i commented on yt the other day...I wrote it even before i knew i would be getting pissed off again here,just so u know i've written thousands comments to people on yt,and i never told a dude that (homophobe alert!) i dont tell chicks that either hardly..i love you...i just care about the truth more than you'll ever know,thats why i get pissed off...dont you see that i care about you, i'll tell hashems the same thing..you guys both do good work.......If i get on people it's because i am probably different than you guys,I come from a sports background...if you see someone doing something bad or if you see someone being led a stray,you tell them..you gotta smack your own team...you cant just say nothing in these cases,the team will fail. I just make sure I know my team and that I am playing the same game(metaphorically speaking or not) ............ I kind of see things differently,no I mean it really ,I dont know why but somehow I ended up with some of the biggest eyes of almost any person you might see(yeah and I was mocked and teased mecilessly in my childhood for it,so it made me a tough shelled kid...it paid off later)so I am just different in that way....I told you early on that you had a good eye and I meant just that,now I would really mean that...you have found some great video,great work like i said,but i am seeing something you are not seeing ,the big picture...I researched it hard,my instincts were right from the start,you know what I mean...I hope this gets settled,I'll think of something...I would really like to see if there is any real video...I mean things we could really ,not prove,but get people to take a look at seriously...gotta lose the phony vids,the weak ones etc,see whats left........we throw out fossils all the time like that..we know its a fossil,but no one else might...so it would make the collection look weak....we grade them all..and lose anything below a b or b+...whatever system,these videos should be graded.

[humanswin]

Graflok that is nice that you posted that ellen show vid.Right around :45...I dont care if she is shapeshifting or not in this cocktail party video because the fact that she mentions what she does,as you say graflok is good to me,at least shows that they have seen somethings around.It could even be larger than that right? She and others could be scared ,thinking they might shift,make them feel uneasy for a change.I think it is major that she even mentions anything,or stupid...uhhh hillary you might want to not mention alien or the like now a days.Ellen should have asked "so why do you mention alien"....canadian vandal i mean what i say when i commented on yt the other day...I wrote it even before i knew i would be getting pissed off again here,just so u know i've written thousands comments to people on yt,and i never told a dude that (homophobe alert!) i dont tell chicks that either hardly..i love you...i just care about the truth more than you'll ever know,thats why i get pissed off...dont you see that i care about you, i'll tell hashems the same thing..you guys both do good work.......If i get on people it's because i am probably different than you guys,I come from a sports background...if you see someone doing something bad or if you see someone being led a stray,you tell them..you gotta smack your own team...you cant just say nothing in these cases,the team will fail. I just make sure I know my team and that I am playing the same game(metaphorically speaking or not) ............ I kind of see things differently,no I mean it really ,I dont know why but somehow I ended up with some of the biggest eyes of almost any person you might see(yeah and I was mocked and teased mecilessly in my childhood for it,so it made me a tough shelled kid...it paid off later)so I am just different in that way....I told you early on that you had a good eye and I meant just that,now I would really mean that...you have found some great video,great work like i said,but i am seeing something you are not seeing ,the big picture...I researched it hard,my instincts were right from the start,you know what I mean...I hope this gets settled,I'll think of something...I would really like to see if there is any real video...I mean things we could really ,not prove,but get people to take a look at seriously...gotta lose the phony vids,the weak ones etc,see whats left........we throw out fossils all the time like that..we know its a fossil,but no one else might...so it would make the collection look weak....we grade them all..and lose anything below a b or b+...whatever system,these videos should be graded.

[woghd]

Humanswin, you may not know who Alan Watt is, but the people who have been "Guiding" you do. They are paid by him. Alan Watt is disgusted by people like David Icke, you, and me, who believe in shapeshifting reptilians, and there is nothing he would love more than a rift between the owners of the two most successful reptilian videos. His people have been surprisingly effective, don't you agree?

These are people who HATE people like us, and you are right there with them, slamming the mods on David Icke's Board! Most of us knew right off the bat what had happened to you, because you started spewing the same hate, word for word, as Alan Watt's little crew. You talk like them, you repeat their lies, calling me Dan Garstecki, etc. PLUS, you have been slamming people who have a lot of credibility in this field.
I bet your "guides" are laughing their asses off.

Humanswin, if you never listen to ANYTHING I ever say ever again, listen to me now. Take a deep breath, go back in your mind to the point where your views about me began to change, and think. Who was talking to you? Who was subtly wispering in your ear about me? What was the proverbial straw? Now, knowing what you know about these people and their motives, ask yourself, do you think they were playing you? Did you check any of their so called facts?

If you had, you would have never thought I was Dan Garstecki.
Bring us the old Humanswin back, we miss you.

Archangel

[woghd]

A while back, we ran an experiment where we aimed two cameras into a crowd, hoping to catch a shapeshift from two cameras. The theory being that any shapeshifting evidence we found would be much more credible if found on two cameras at once. Well, after searching through thousands of frams of film painstakingly, we found nothing.

I would like to see the producers of realshapeshifters.com, CanadianVandal, Hashemsfilms, Archangel Systems, and if you are still with us, Humanswin...attempt to run this experiment again. But honestly, Humanswin, we aren't sure where you fit in anymore, you are making enemies out of former freinds at a record rate, and this kills me because I know your heart. I KNOW you are a truth seeker! That's why I won't abandon you even after all you've done and said. I won't do it.

So regardless of how you feel about me personally, as a scientist you must see the value in an experiment such as this, do you not agree? I'm hoping that you will participate in this.

Archangel

[mattias]

Don't know if this has been posted before.
Found it on the swedish newspaper, Expressen: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.992433/hillary-jamforde-konkurrenten-med-bush

http://image.bayimg.com/aaiodaabm.jpg

Original:

http://image.bayimg.com/aaiojaabm.jpg

Could this be some kind of shapeshifting?

[woghd]

Don't know if this has been posted before.
Found it on the swedish newspaper, Expressen: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.992433/hillary-jamforde-konkurrenten-med-bush

http://image.bayimg.com/aaiodaabm.jpg

Original:

http://image.bayimg.com/aaiojaabm.jpg

Could this be some kind of shapeshifting?

Not sure what that could be. Looks almost like a bruise. I haven't heard anything about a bruise on her neck though, and I follow pretty close. If not a bruise, I'd say it could possibly be a little skin evidence there. Definately worth a closer look.

Archangel

[paganus]

might be a shadow.if it IS a bruise,its same place the queen had one not long ago.

[soglad]

Hillary (before she puts on her makeup) .

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/american-crocodile-emerging-water.jpg

HOT! :D

[woghd]

might be a shadow.if it IS a bruise,its same place the queen had one not long ago.

Now that's exactly what I was thinking. It looks more like the Queen's bruise than anything else. Wierd. Both bruises are prolly part of some sick and depraved reptilian ritual...

Archangel

[mindsplinter]

Ok, Ok just because I'm new to this shape shifting stuff can I please ask a question. If Hilaroid can really shape shift then why doesn't she shift her face into something more easy to look at. I've been reading a thread here that says Angelina Jole is also one so my question then is why doesn't Hilaroid shift her face into one that looks like Angelina's

[white horse]

I've seen the original reptile woman video and I find it very creepy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZGh5cCiEF8

The sudden appearance of a large demon type creature over her shoulder (which is actually just the snack wrapper) to me is a clear case of synchronicity, which doesnt proove shes a shape shifting reptile (too low quality) but suggests the prescence of demon/repltile influence that affects the frequency field of the surrounding area, producing the 'demon' effect at 5.07.

(First time I saw that I saw it at real speed and I nearly fell off my chair, second time round at slow motion it made me gasp! Both times I knew it was the packet, but sheesh, it is freaky!)

The creepiest thing about the Hilary video is that it is purportedly a hidden video, but right at the end she stares directly into the camera.

If this is real I believe 'they' may be struggling to uphold their appearance day in day out under such massive camera scrutiny in public life. It much take great concentration and energy.

BUT, are a lot of these features simply artefacts from ultra low quality digital imagary?

Again http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?token=263_1196946544 is this video just an example of very low quality digital transmission?

There are artefact on the mans suit (is that shapeshifting too?) and on the man behind his shoulder.

I don't think this is proof or disproof, I agree with D3V, the quality is too low quality to proove it is not digital artefacts due to lo quality.

Ready and willing to believe, just bothered by lo quality digital film, it is notorious for artefacts!

[mindsplinter]

Where do little reptile babies go to learn how to keep their form?

That's a valid question. Why aren't little kids who go shopping with there mums at the market accidently reptile themselves like kids who can't help themselves when they poop their pants?

I've been all over the world, seen many strange and wondrous things and never ever have I seen a human turn into a reptile-not ever not no how. But, I still have a great appreciation for David's books.

[tinmenace]

Hillary (before she puts on her makeup) .

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/american-crocodile-emerging-water.jpg

LMAO! :D

Good one! http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[paganus]

Now that's exactly what I was thinking. It looks more like the Queen's bruise than anything else. Wierd. Both bruises are prolly part of some sick and depraved reptilian ritual...

Archangelit is a strange subject.i intend to start researching this more soon.got a book on the folklore of babylon.its got some chapters on sumer.i'll see what reptile legends they've got.

[free_soul]

I just wish i was smoking an oz of what you're on to see this as reptilian...I'm not denying she isn't one...just this is no proof.

i agree!!!! just the oz would be nice lmao


ive not seen any real footage of reptiles and is the one i partly belive and partly dont,

do believe that we are under atack by anouther spiecies as it goes too far back to deny

[free_soul]

it is a strange subject.i intend to start researching this more soon.got a book on the folklore of babylon.its got some chapters on sumer.i'll see what reptile legends they've got.

Hey can u give me the title and author of the book please im currently researching ancient civilisations and would love to see some of the litrature

Thanks in advance

oh btw can u pm it me as im loggin out soon thankyou again :)

[white horse]

Ok, Ok just because I'm new to this shape shifting stuff can I please ask a question. If Hilaroid can really shape shift then why doesn't she shift her face into something more easy to look at. I've been reading a thread here that says Angelina Jole is also one so my question then is why doesn't Hilaroid shift her face into one that looks like Angelina's

Perhaps they are swapped when the human 'target' is already in adulthood and already in a place of success/power?

[mindsplinter]

Perhaps they are swapped when the human 'target' is already in adulthood and already in a place of success/power?

That was good. It would also answer my previous question about why young shape-shifter children don't accidently mess up in public places.

Would these hybrids then be coached at an early age, or would the entity be hanging out in the other dimension ready for a sacrificial ceremony of sorts? :eek:

[paganus]

That was good. It would also answer my previous question about why young shape-shifter children don't accidently mess up in public places.

Would these hybrids then be coached at an early age, or would the entity be hanging out in the other dimension ready for a sacrificial ceremony of sorts? :eek::eek: could be the root of the 'changling' myths of every culture!

[woghd]

:eek: could be the root of the 'changling' myths of every culture!

This would support why so many celebs and others seem to undergo a personality change, when they begin acting "evil".

Archangel

[paganus]

This would support why so many celebs and others seem to undergo a personality change, when they begin acting "evil".

Archangelits shocking how many 'self-destruct' too! spears,winehouse etc

[woghd]

I have no doubt in my mind that the two are connected!

Archangel

[danucrom]

I have no doubt in my mind that the two are connected!

Archangel

How many sock puppets do you have wog?.

[woghd]

How many sock puppets do you have wog?.

This is the only account I have here. The mods know that. Does your question have something to do with the topic at hand? ...or were you simply bored today...

Archangel