All Conspiracy was created by the Dream

[tootrue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwt-LjvLlZQ&feature=related
'Being awake in the dream of reality is to attend a wake for reality is dream of itself.' All, from secret societies, to the 'Big Global Agenda' was created by our Dream!

[zero1]

Thanks, that was fun. Maybe McKenna is right, in some ways...

[tootrue]

Ultimately, we have to remember one single, but essential thing -

We all know what David Icke says about the Illuminati, or the Matrix Agents - as we may also call them!!

Ultimately, these Agents or entities do not exist at all...! How?
Well, they do exist, but then of course THEY are US.

We are the Illuminati, and we have Dreamed of their Secret societies

They ONLY exist in our imagination!

If you have any doubts at all - PLEASE check any David Icke book! See what he has to say about it!! :)

[alice1111]

Ultimately, we have to remember one single, but essential thing -

We all know what David Icke says about the Illuminati, or the Matrix Agents - as we may also call them!!

Ultimately, these Agents or entities do not exist at all...! How?
Well, they do exist, but then of course THEY are US.

We are the Illuminati, and we have Dreamed of their Secret societies

They ONLY exist in our imagination!

If you have any doubts at all - PLEASE check any David Icke book! See what he has to say about it!! :)

Yes, I have read all of David and watched his videos. And even if this is just a dream or just our imagination, My dream has turned into a bit of a nightmare and I hope I can change it soon.

Love

Alice:o

[tootrue]

Yes, I have read all of David and watched his videos. And even if this is just a dream or just our imagination, My dream has turned into a bit of a nightmare and I hope I can change it soon.

Love

Alice:o

You will find out that if you dont give a damn, everything changes for the better :) This is how the Dream/Nightmare works

[alice1111]

Thank you tootrue. I have been working on this and have reached the blah stage.:) Does it sound like I'm getting there?

Alice

[survivor1]

Not only is this world and everything in it all us, us being a single entity or God for want of a better word. Our evolution from this state of apparent separateness we are in at the moment can only be reached by doing one simple thing!
Loving each other and everything totally and without question I'm even talking about Bush, Blair, Hitler, mass murderers, pedophiles yep all the people we perceive presently as the filthiest scum, we even have to love them because they are actually us. With that realisation and practice we will evolve to another level of existence. If you think 2012 is the date for this to happen and it well may be, then we have about 5 years to get our heads around this fact and start loving each other, seeing the good in everybody and being tolerant is a good way to start. Try it yourself, and see how your life starts changing for the better.:)

[tootrue]

Not only is this world and everything in it all us, us being a single entity or God for want of a better word. Our evolution from this state of apparent separateness we are in at the moment can only be reached by doing one simple thing!
Loving each other and everything totally and without question I'm even talking about Bush, Blair, Hitler, mass murderers, pedophiles yep all the people we perceive presently as the filthiest scum, we even have to love them because they are actually us. With that realisation and practice we will evolve to another level of existence. If you think 2012 is the date for this to happen and it well may be, then we have about 5 years to get our heads around this fact and start loving each other, seeing the good in everybody and being tolerant is a good way to start. Try it yourself, and see how your life starts changing for the better.:)

I dont agree that we have to evolve
Evolution is obviously nothing but a hypothesis
We dont have to evolve
You are confusing awareness with evolution!!

[survivor1]

I dont agree that we have to evolve
Evolution is obviously nothing but a hypothesis
We dont have to evolve
You are confusing awareness with evolution!!

You are right, we are already all we can be.

[guyblokeman]

I dont agree that we have to evolve
Evolution is obviously nothing but a hypothesis
We dont have to evolve
You are confusing awareness with evolution!!

Evolution is a fact.

You and I, and all that is, is constantly evolving.

Awareness is groomed through evolution.

[survivor1]

Evolution is a fact.

You and I, and all that is, is constantly evolving.

Awareness is groomed through evolution.

In our true essence we are all there is and can be, Love.
It is our consciousness that is evolving or refining it's perspective, the levels of illusion are being peeled away to reveal our true nature to the consciousness which is looking for itself.

[aizzy]

'Being awake in the dream of reality is to attend a wake for reality is dream of itself.' All, from secret societies, to the 'Big Global Agenda' was created by our Dream!


And the last sane moment we ever knew was on the plains of Africa 15,000 years ago rocked in the cradle of the Great Horned Mushroom Goddess before history, before standing armies, before slavery and property, before warfare and phonetic alphabets and monotheism, before, before, before. And this is where the future is taking us because the secret faith of the twentieth century is not modernism, the secret faith of the twentieth century is nostalgia for the archaic, nostalgia for the paleolithic, and that gives us body piercing, abstract expressionism, surrealism, jazz, rock-n-roll and catastrophe theory.:o:o:o

[tootrue]

The electric waves that appear to be coming from our holographic brains, essentially originate in our DNA.

Talking of being stuck in a Dream World - http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Make-Mind-Win-Over-Matter-2455745!

... Or as David Icke says:
... this is just a primitive expression of the way our whole reality works.

[alice1111]

Well, I guess it's obvious that I see this as a dream and when I talk of getting there, I mean waking up, remembering who I am. I see it as we being all and having experiences. What else are you going to do when you live forever, but create reality games and then jump in and play them.
This particular game has gotten a little tiresome though and I am ready to fully awaken and start another game. I hope I can take my dogs and perfume with me, :D who knows.

Alice

[tootrue]

It happens all the time..., but it's nonsense - http://www.5min.com/Video/Superconductivity---Creating-a-New-State-of-Matter-3066691 :rolleyes:

[dmessick]

All you have to do is remember who you are and start recreating the 'dream' for yourself first. Everything else will follow exactly the way it should.

[lostinstrangeworld]

We are the dream-makers, and not the dream.

[tootrue]

We are the dream-makers, and not the dream.

You may want to read David's newsletter, lostinstrangeworld!


This theme of ‘residual self image’ and the ‘mental projection of your digital self’ operates on many levels and represents the most powerful form of self-delusion and, thus, self-enslavement. It is the illusory state that I call ‘self-identity’ – the reality filter that controls the lives of billions because they don’t realise that the biggest manipulator of their reality is themselves.

[tootrue]

Window Washer Survives 47-Story Fall

Moreno has undergone nine surgeries. He broke both legs, an arm, and a wrist. He also suffered brain and spinal injuries, but the doctors predict he'll be in good shape in about a year.

http://www.wlbz2.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=77795

It is still very rare that anyone would be consciously aware of the Dream, while falling from a building!
Mr. Moreno obviously wasn't fully aware, of the Dream. Otherwise, he would have walked without a scratch!

'Awareness' is not thinking you know! 'Awareness' is actually knowing (and feeling it)!!
When you wake up, cold-sweating, from a nightmare, it is your thoughts that have made you sweat! Not your dreams!

[cyberdaemon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwt-LjvLlZQ&feature=related
'Being awake in the dream of reality is to attend a wake for reality is dream of itself.' All, from secret societies, to the 'Big Global Agenda' was created by our Dream!

Thats why i dont care much about these so called agendas and theyr secrets.Besides they are boring too.

[tootrue]

Thats why i dont care much about these so called agendas and theyr secrets.Besides they are boring too.

All's in here
;)
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3394639073410784595&q=david+icke+reality&total=100&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[tron]

I dont agree that we have to evolve
Evolution is obviously nothing but a hypothesis
We dont have to evolve
You are confusing awareness with evolution!!

In the words of the late, great Bill Hicks, 'Evolution didn't end iwth us growing thumbs you do rrealise that? Its time to start evolving IDEA'S!'. :D

[ichi wa zen]

In the words of the late, great Bill Hicks, 'Evolution didn't end iwth us growing thumbs you do rrealise that? Its time to start evolving IDEA'S!'. :D

"Idea's" got us in this mess in the first place IMHO!

Here is my Idea. Lets get rid of the Idea that Idea's are going to make this world a better place. Because we view the world in Idea's we have lost our touch with reality as it is.

So having too many Idea's is really not a great Idea. Lets get rid of the Idea's and see ourselves as we truly are. We are nice people, really!

[tootrue]

In the words of the late, great Bill Hicks, 'Evolution didn't end iwth us growing thumbs you do rrealise that? Its time to start evolving IDEA'S!'. :D

No evolution needed
awareness is needed though!

[tootrue]

The Truth is within us - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5619742260447948524&q=the+esoteric+agenda&total=65&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8

[tootrue]

It is fundamental to our awakening to understand that 'Consciousness is a Field that we all share'!

Watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsvEkPNitdQ

[tootrue]

David Icke Newsletter :
As I delve ever deeper into the illusion we call 'life' I find myself laughing more and more. It's hysterical, really, because everything we believe to be 'real', er, well, isn't. Or, not in the sense that we perceive it as 'real', anyway.

As Lewis Carroll's Alice said:

'If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?'

[thegoodnessisgood]

all you have to do is remember who you are and start recreating the 'dream' for yourself first. Everything else will follow exactly the way it should.

correct-a-fricken-mundo

Everyone, this is really the real deal. YOU are the most powerful awesome piece of technology ever devised, created by consciousness itself. Your energy fields and centers are the vehicle for consciousness to create reality on this plane. That consciousness is INFINITY. It is INFINITELY more powerful than any nuclear or other "device". Consciousness can shift and rearrange reality at the quantum level instantly !

Dream the truth. Dream Infinite Love. Create it from the now moment. This shit REALLY fricken works in the most practical sense... ha ha ha Do it!

[tootrue]

David Icke: "The conspiracy is trying to pull us into Time!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SHxhHXFZuQ&feature=PlayList&p=4C168E8EB4CE9DF9&playnext_from=PL&playnext=10&index=9

[energi]

This is Icke at his most lucid, in my honest opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbeF3k3ZU34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhKKvYFg5V8

I was so confused after reading "Infinite Love..." 2 years ago, thinking "Ok, NOW WHAT?!"

This interview holds all the answers for me. I've already saved it to my mobile phone and backed it up a couple of times before, but it needs to be said. Of all the great books and talks Icke gives to the world, this one really gets me. At the Heart.

All you have to do then, is knowing that there is no time and that your are the imagination of yourself. That stuff about thoughts/consciousness shaping reality will fall into place then for ya, sooner or later.

With Love,

Energi.



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Now I'm back to that Justin Bieber thread for some late-night ranting.

Throwing in an edit: Just so I don't sound too soft: Fuck the conspiracy, it will only exist if you and your fellow peers allow it to.

Yes, they orchestrate lots of horrible shit and are total cunts, for now. But if Reality is a schoolyard and the Illuminati-whatever are the bullies, wouldn't you help them overcome their problems so that they might be better off too once they settle down?



I am really tired at the moment so that might come out wrong, but I think of them as a bunch of (clever) BULLIES.

Have a good one all of y'all :)

[dunadan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwt-LjvLlZQ&feature=related
'Being awake in the dream of reality is to attend a wake for reality is dream of itself.' All, from secret societies, to the 'Big Global Agenda' was created by our Dream!

Video was removed - what was it about?

[tootrue]

Video was removed - what was it about?

That's a quotation from the video - 'Being awake in the dream of reality is to attend a wake for reality is dream of itself'

The views of T McKennah were very similar to those of Icke.
We talk about a Global Conspiracy managed by secret groups and societies

If we take it that we are all there is, then where do those Freemasons and Illuminati exist?
They must be existing in our consciousness. So, their conspiracies are all part of our consciousness

It is like a dream.
Here is another link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgxpFE1F0u0&feature=related

[azureangel]

And the last sane moment we ever knew was on the plains of Africa 15,000 years ago rocked in the cradle of the Great Horned Mushroom Goddess before history, before standing armies, before slavery and property, before warfare and phonetic alphabets and monotheism, before, before, before. And this is where the future is taking us because the secret faith of the twentieth century is not modernism, the secret faith of the twentieth century is nostalgia for the archaic, nostalgia for the paleolithic, and that gives us body piercing, abstract expressionism, surrealism, jazz, rock-n-roll and catastrophe theory.:o:o:o

And it deserves some note. I don't nec agree with the timeline (I think it was a bit longer ago) but your theory gives me some food for thought. "nostalgia for the archaic...paleolithic" meaning living free on the land, connected to all as (I believe) the animals now are, etc...would you care to say more? Like what your thoughts are regarding other ways this nostalgia shows up in our "modern" times? Thanks and love, angel

[ultrafrigid]

I acknowledge it's all true, but as hard as I strive for such love, it's not only difficult, but on my part it's a façade covered up by words and smiles. As much as I may regard everyone with unconditional love (and I do try to), there's alot of pain behind it that people don't see. I guess all I'm asking is, just be aware that people try but still suffer inside regardless of the love they give.

You will find out that if you dont give a damn, everything changes for the better This is how the Dream/Nightmare works

I'll admit one thing, in those moments when I can truly not give a damn, I get powerful feelings of reassurance and knowing that indicate everything will be alright and nothing can or will hurt me because none of this is real. To this day it's the most precious feeling I've ever experienced and I've made it my full-time pursuit to find it and remain there.

[dunadan]

That's a quotation from the video - 'Being awake in the dream of reality is to attend a wake for reality is dream of itself'

The views of T McKennah were very similar to those of Icke.
We talk about a Global Conspiracy managed by secret groups and societies

If we take it that we are all there is, then where do those Freemasons and Illuminati exist?
They must be existing in our consciousness. So, their conspiracies are all part of our consciousness

It is like a dream.
Here is another link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgxpFE1F0u0&feature=related

Thanks:)

I get it now:)

Sometimes, when I wake from a dream, it can take several hours for me to 'convince' myself, that I am now in 'reality/awake', it can be similar after a meditation etc....

[micklemus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwt-LjvLlZQ&feature=related
'Being awake in the dream of reality is to attend a wake for reality is dream of itself.' All, from secret societies, to the 'Big Global Agenda' was created by our Dream!

I haven't looked at the link yet but if it's anything like the strapline then I am with that completely.

I have felt this for a long time but I had the most incredible experience yesterday which really brought it home to me. Feeling the power of creation, of Oneness and the effects of thought and perspective at different vibrations. It makes me sound like a loon trying to articulate this in a few sentences so I will try to offer a more fullsome description when I can.

In the meantime, the point that has stuck with me is that the awakening/acension/return of the flock/whatever you want to call it has already happened. All possibility is already there but in a three dimensional experience it is easy to get stuck in substance, form, separation and time, none of which really exist as such except in the mind of the observer. Break the fixation of thought on the three dimensional experience and suddenly it all changes. For some reason, however, many of us are stuck here, locked into and fascinated by this collective vision of the everyday world. Everything is right there, in front of us (and inside us, actually it is us) but we generally fail to see it.

I'm sounding like a bit of a space cadet here. Will see if I can describe this better another time. Unfortunately, words can be too limiting sometimes.

I wonder if others can identify with what I'm trying to get across though.

[energi]

I haven't looked at the link yet but if it's anything like the strapline then I am with that completely.

I have felt this for a long time but I had the most incredible experience yesterday which really brought it home to me. Feeling the power of creation, of Oneness and the effects of thought and perspective at different vibrations. It makes me sound like a loon trying to articulate this in a few sentences so I will try to offer a more fullsome description when I can.

In the meantime, the point that has stuck with me is that the awakening/acension/return of the flock/whatever you want to call it has already happened. All possibility is already there but in a three dimensional experience it is easy to get stuck in substance, form, separation and time, none of which really exist as such except in the mind of the observer. Break the fixation of thought on the three dimensional experience and suddenly it all changes. For some reason, however, many of us are stuck here, locked into and fascinated by this collective vision of the everyday world. Everything is right there, in front of us (and inside us, actually it is us) but we generally fail to see it.

I'm sounding like a bit of a space cadet here. Will see if I can describe this better another time. Unfortunately, words can be too limiting sometimes.

I wonder if others can identify with what I'm trying to get across though.

I definitely identify with what you say. Articulating it and not sounding like a luna-tic (get it, lunar... moon... nazi lizards from outer space? :D) is practically impossible ;).

:)

Paraphrasing David Icke: "We don't need to fight them, just to stop co-operating with them" (easier said than done for some people, but still...)

[krakhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgxpFE1F0u0And an extended (2 hour) mp3 version through this blog -
http://erocx1.blogspot.com/2009/01/terence-mckenna-dream-awake-complete.html

And the rapidshare direct link -
http://rapidshare.com/files/175138879/Dream_Awake.mp3

[micklemus]

I'm really pleased to have found this thread.

Energi - I'm so with you there!

And thank you Krakhead. Looking forward to watching that video too.

[tootrue]

I haven't looked at the link yet but if it's anything like the strapline then I am with that completely.

I have felt this for a long time but I had the most incredible experience yesterday which really brought it home to me. Feeling the power of creation, of Oneness and the effects of thought and perspective at different vibrations. It makes me sound like a loon trying to articulate this in a few sentences so I will try to offer a more fullsome description when I can.

In the meantime, the point that has stuck with me is that the awakening/acension/return of the flock/whatever you want to call it has already happened. All possibility is already there but in a three dimensional experience it is easy to get stuck in substance, form, separation and time, none of which really exist as such except in the mind of the observer. Break the fixation of thought on the three dimensional experience and suddenly it all changes. For some reason, however, many of us are stuck here, locked into and fascinated by this collective vision of the everyday world. Everything is right there, in front of us (and inside us, actually it is us) but we generally fail to see it.

I'm sounding like a bit of a space cadet here. Will see if I can describe this better another time. Unfortunately, words can be too limiting sometimes.

I wonder if others can identify with what I'm trying to get across though.

I can absolutely identify with what you're saying, and I can also identify with what ultrafrigid is saying trying to remain into the feeling of Oneness :)

[infinite tea]

If you are stressed your dreams will be dark if you are happy your dreams will be light....you do not choose the dream you have but the dream you have fits perfectly to the state of your being...AND THIS IS TRUE OF YOUR WAKING DREAM AS WELL. Observe your inner state of being to see why you are experiencing what you are experiencing. YOU are the fractal from which your dream takes it's form. The conspiracy is in your own fear of the truth, ONLY YOU EXIST, and the lies and avoidance techniques YOU employ to keep yourself from the NO-THINGNESS. Let go, let go, let go :-)

[dunadan]

If you are stressed your dreams will be dark if you are happy your dreams will be light....you do not choose the dream you have but the dream you have fits perfectly to the state of your being...AND THIS IS TRUE OF YOUR WAKING DREAM AS WELL. Observe your inner state of being to see why you are experiencing what you are experiencing. YOU are the fractal from which your dream takes it's form. The conspiracy is in your own fear of the truth, ONLY YOU EXIST, and the lies and avoidance techniques YOU employ to keep yourself from the NO-THINGNESS. Let go, let go, let go :-)

The One is all and the all is one.

My understanding of the No-Thing is that the Source/God, is so complex and infinate that, there are no words to explain this being. Also in the begining there was No-Thing until the first levels of concious thought etc.. i.e. the Void.

It is my beleif that when we 'die' we return to the sea of souls, so therefore there is no oness, the one is all and the all is one - we are all connected.:)

'Let go and let God'...........

[oneup]

I'll admit one thing, in those moments when I can truly not give a damn, I get powerful feelings of reassurance and knowing that indicate everything will be alright and nothing can or will hurt me because none of this is real. To this day it's the most precious feeling I've ever experienced and I've made it my full-time pursuit to find it and remain there.

I'll second that :)
But there's one problem with your statement:
truly not give a damn
pursuit to find it
Those two contradict each other, don't they?
I've been falling into the same trap over and over again.
You'll never find it because you already have it. At least that's what my experience has led me to believe. All you have to do is let it happen, 'not giving a damn'. That's what I believe all this new age crap and scientology also is about, tricking people into seeking something they already have.

[tootrue]

That's what I believe all this new age crap and scientology also is about, tricking people into seeking something they already have.
__________________


true

[infinite tea]

I'll second that :)
But there's one problem with your statement:


Those two contradict each other, don't they?
I've been falling into the same trap over and over again.
You'll never find it because you already have it. At least that's what my experience has led me to believe. All you have to do is let it happen, 'not giving a damn'. That's what I believe all this new age crap and scientology also is about, tricking people into seeking something they already have.

When you don't give a damn you are free to do what you want, live in truth.

[abrilliantone]

Ha,Ha,Ha... There is only Infinite Awareness <period> The illuminati is simply apart of that Awarness. They are Me and I Am Them.The problem comes in when we fall for the trap we set for ourselves. You guys and girls know the one I'm talking about. Where you're within a illusionary reality and for the love of some god. You belive it all to be Real. Scary, I know. One must truly come to realize that. Our true nature is Everything And Everything Is One <all of us> if this Madness is to end.

[cosmo1]

Now I'm back to that Justin Bieber thread for some late-night ranting.

Throwing in an edit: Just so I don't sound too soft: Fuck the conspiracy, it will only exist if you and your fellow peers allow it to.

Yes, they orchestrate lots of horrible shit and are total cunts, for now. But if Reality is a schoolyard and the Illuminati-whatever are the bullies, wouldn't you help them overcome their problems so that they might be better off too once they settle down?


I am really tired at the moment so that might come out wrong, but I think of them as a bunch of (clever) BULLIES.

Have a good one all of y'all :)


Heh ya nong; why would you care if you sound soft :).

I so agree with you - and the others - re the 'all that we already are' stuff. All you have written is just so true - imo.
For myself, since i have 'not given a flying fuck' i am soooo much better; and it is due mainly to Davids 'Infinite Love' book.
I feel so 'free' and so much 'lighter'.

I have far more compassion etc for everyone, even the 'bullies' :D.

Oh, and i don't care about people using the word cunt anymore; used to hate that so much :eek::D

Naturally - for the moment - i do not always feel so great; it is easy to talk the talk, not so much to do it all the time - yet. But by god i am learning very fast.

So thanks you guys just for being here :D

Love and coolness

[cosmo1]

I haven't looked at the link yet but if it's anything like the strapline then I am with that completely.

I have felt this for a long time but I had the most incredible experience yesterday which really brought it home to me. Feeling the power of creation, of Oneness and the effects of thought and perspective at different vibrations. It makes me sound like a loon trying to articulate this in a few sentences so I will try to offer a more fullsome description when I can.

In the meantime, the point that has stuck with me is that the awakening/acension/return of the flock/whatever you want to call it has already happened. All possibility is already there but in a three dimensional experience it is easy to get stuck in substance, form, separation and time, none of which really exist as such except in the mind of the observer. Break the fixation of thought on the three dimensional experience and suddenly it all changes. For some reason, however, many of us are stuck here, locked into and fascinated by this collective vision of the everyday world. Everything is right there, in front of us (and inside us, actually it is us) but we generally fail to see it.

I'm sounding like a bit of a space cadet here. Will see if I can describe this better another time. Unfortunately, words can be too limiting sometimes.

I wonder if others can identify with what I'm trying to get across though.

Totally Mike; thanks for sharing :)

And i too thank all for the most excellent thread, and tootrue for starting it, and the links to the vids :D

[tootrue]

Ha,Ha,Ha... There is only Infinite Awareness <period> The illuminati is simply apart of that Awarness. They are Me and I Am Them.The problem comes in when we fall for the trap we set for ourselves. You guys and girls know the one I'm talking about. Where you're within a illusionary reality and for the love of some god. You belive it all to be Real. Scary, I know. One must truly come to realize that. Our true nature is Everything And Everything Is One <all of us> if this Madness is to end.

Yeah true

I must keep this in mind myself, too :) ;)

[cosmo1]

I take back my previous posts; the air is too rarified in this thread for me.:rolleyes:

[tootrue]

The conspiracy is us!
:)

'I know you're afraid! You're afraid of change!' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH2ZgbhgzLo

[tootrue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIbTVc6KIt0&feature=player_embedded