a confession about 7/7

[islamvslizards]

i have worked in the past with the teachers of south leeds high school (where one of the "bombers" worked as a teacher).

i was told (in confidence) something, which was the real reason i joined this forum around a year/ 2 years ago.

im in two minds whether to reveal it here, under the cloak of anonymity, or is there still a chance i can be traced via my IP etc? im not to keen on ending up being suicided

[wise haven]

I have an idea what you are going to say.

Personally, I would get it out there - probably safer for you IMO.

[spolier]

i have worked in the past with the teachers of south leeds high school (where one of the "bombers" worked as a teacher).

i was told (in confidence) something, which was the real reason i joined this forum around a year/ 2 years ago.

im in two minds whether to reveal it here, under the cloak of anonymity, or is there still a chance i can be traced via my IP etc? im not to keen on ending up being suicided


if you are shitting yourself so badly, wait until you are on holiday abroad, then go to an internet cafe set up another account and post once and never go back in there.

[ragnarok]

I have an idea what you are going to say.

Personally, I would get it out there - probably safer for you IMO.

+1

The more people who know, the less advantage there is in bumping someone off.

[follow no leader]

'the truth will set you free'

love to you

[wise haven]

+1

The more people who know, the less advantage there is in bumping someone off.

Plus - I don't want to worry you Islamvlizards but you have already compromised yourself by saying you know something.

Always better to get it out - you have more leverage.:)

[islamvslizards]

fuck em. heres what i know. after this ill tell you what his friends and colleagues believe.

the "bomber" was an amateur actor. a company approached him that they were doing a training session for the police/ security forces. they wanted him to pretend to be a bomber, make a film, and they would give him a rucksack. he would have a codeword, and he had to hide somewhere on the underground where he couldnt be located by mobile signal or whatever. if the police found him, they would say the codeword, and that would prove that that particular team "won" that training session.

before he left for london, he told his colleagues this much. he even showed them the "suicide video" in the staff room before he left.

i cant say too much, but i worked closely with his colleagues. the day or two after 7/7 mi5 or whoever descended on them all and made them all sign documents for secrecy.

this is what his colleagues believe

him and the others were given the rucksacks, only they werent dummy.

hopefully over the last 2 years you guys will have realised that im not a nutter, im not a liar and im not a shill. what im saying is the truth. its only fear of reprecussions that i cant tell you more details. i dont wanna be a statistic, man.

[scaltura]

better being public

if your public then it is harder for the dark suits to get at you , but if they know that you know something then it would be easier , if you get my drift , there are too many eyebrowes being raised in these times regarding the lies that are being told by the people in power , Dr Kelly , going to war with iraq etc.. the more things that are expossed the better to raise more doubts in the eyes who are still sitting on the fence

but i guess it's upto you , it's your life and your the one thats scared of the information you hold

best wishes in whatever you do

p.s. just go for it

[gremlin]

i have worked in the past with the teachers of south leeds high school (where one of the "bombers" worked as a teacher).

i was told (in confidence) something, which was the real reason i joined this forum around a year/ 2 years ago.

im in two minds whether to reveal it here, under the cloak of anonymity, or is there still a chance i can be traced via my IP etc? im not to keen on ending up being suicided

I bet he does, oh he did.

[theroach]

fuck em. heres what i know. after this ill tell you what his friends and colleagues believe.

the "bomber" was an amateur actor. a company approached him that they were doing a training session for the police/ security forces. they wanted him to pretend to be a bomber, make a film, and they would give him a rucksack. he would have a codeword, and he had to hide somewhere on the underground where he couldnt be located by mobile signal or whatever. if the police found him, they would say the codeword, and that would prove that that particular team "won" that training session.

before he left for london, he told his colleagues this much. he even showed them the "suicide video" in the staff room before he left.

i cant say too much, but i worked closely with his colleagues. the day or two after 7/7 mi5 or whoever descended on them all and made them all sign documents for secrecy.

this is what his colleagues believe

him and the others were given the rucksacks, only they werent dummy.

hopefully over the last 2 years you guys will have realised that im not a nutter, im not a liar and im not a shill. what im saying is the truth. its only fear of reprecussions that i cant tell you more details. i dont wanna be a statistic, man.


I believe 100%....no worries on that score.

Many believe they were being used for a 'faux' terror excercise etc...this is an add on to that.


'The world's a stage'

I just wish I had a better part.

[mindatrisk]

fuck em. heres what i know. after this ill tell you what his friends and colleagues believe.

the "bomber" was an amateur actor. a company approached him that they were doing a training session for the police/ security forces. they wanted him to pretend to be a bomber, make a film, and they would give him a rucksack. he would have a codeword, and he had to hide somewhere on the underground where he couldnt be located by mobile signal or whatever. if the police found him, they would say the codeword, and that would prove that that particular team "won" that training session.

before he left for london, he told his colleagues this much. he even showed them the "suicide video" in the staff room before he left.

i cant say too much, but i worked closely with his colleagues. the day or two after 7/7 mi5 or whoever descended on them all and made them all sign documents for secrecy.

this is what his colleagues believe

him and the others were given the rucksacks, only they werent dummy.

hopefully over the last 2 years you guys will have realised that im not a nutter, im not a liar and im not a shill. what im saying is the truth. its only fear of reprecussions that i cant tell you more details. i dont wanna be a statistic, man.

I can believe this version. I'd figured very similar anyway. :)

[scaltura]

names dates times etc .. get it all out

expose

[wise haven]

fuck em. heres what i know. after this ill tell you what his friends and colleagues believe.

the "bomber" was an amateur actor. a company approached him that they were doing a training session for the police/ security forces. they wanted him to pretend to be a bomber, make a film, and they would give him a rucksack. he would have a codeword, and he had to hide somewhere on the underground where he couldnt be located by mobile signal or whatever. if the police found him, they would say the codeword, and that would prove that that particular team "won" that training session.

before he left for london, he told his colleagues this much. he even showed them the "suicide video" in the staff room before he left.

i cant say too much, but i worked closely with his colleagues. the day or two after 7/7 mi5 or whoever descended on them all and made them all sign documents for secrecy.

this is what his colleagues believe

him and the others were given the rucksacks, only they werent dummy.

hopefully over the last 2 years you guys will have realised that im not a nutter, im not a liar and im not a shill. what im saying is the truth. its only fear of reprecussions that i cant tell you more details. i dont wanna be a statistic, man.

Pretty much what I was expecting.

Thanks IVL, better out than in:) Stay safe.

[acharlatani]

Once you have said it why will you continue to be in danger? However of course it is possible to be traced back via your IP...

Just saw you did. Well done and i believe everything you have said...

[tzlr_17]

Was reading this earlier:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12337575

Can't believe they're still pushing the home-concentrated peroxide story....

Totally nonsensical, impossible. If only the population were educated in chemistry they'd see straight through the bullshit. The fact that the coroner is warning of the dangers of peroxide availability is also totally laughable.

I suppose my main point is that this massive problem with the official story could easily be overlooked. Some evidence of the OPs confession would be harder to ignore.

[frase]

Blimey.... So what are all these teachers who got told this doing about it?

[islamvslizards]

Blimey.... So what are all these teachers who got told this doing about it?

nothing, they arent revolutionaries. they are too scared to speak, and only opened up to me after spending so much time with me for so long. besides, the violence that erupted between the muslims and the BNP and "paki bashing crew" in the area kept them too busy to worry about anything else

[tzlr_17]

hopefully over the last 2 years you guys will have realised that im not a nutter, im not a liar and im not a shill. what im saying is the truth. its only fear of reprecussions that i cant tell you more details. i dont wanna be a statistic, man.

I respect whatever decision you take, but something like this could really open some eyes and get things moving in the right direction.

Unfortunately those details are key and if this is to make any impact outside the 'already aware' community, where it makes no difference, then some more info will be needed.

Can I assume that you weren't connected to his colleagues till some time after the event, and hence haven't been made to sign anything?

[wise haven]

nothing, they arent revolutionaries. they are too scared to speak, and only opened up to me after spending so much time with me for so long. besides, the violence that erupted between the muslims and the BNP and "paki bashing crew" in the area kept them too busy to worry about anything else

Yep, I can understand the difficulties and the pressures.

Is there any way you could write this up in such a way that people cannot be personally identified, or implicated, but has sufficient detail for it to be an evidential record?

A timeline or chronology would be a good way to present a narrative without having to name names.

Thanks again IVL.

[jamston]

Evidence suggests they were given dummy bombs and the devices were placed under the carriages and on the bus. Nick Kollerstrom has been doing the best work on 7/7 in my opinion, he did a talk very recently which is here

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I shall alert him to this thread, i think he would be interested in what you have to add to the story.

[wise haven]

Evidence suggests they were given dummy bombs and the devices were placed under the carriages and on the bus. Nick Kollerstrom has been doing the best work on 7/7 in my opinion, he did a talk very recently which is here

http://blip.tv/file/4640329

I shall alert him to this thread, i think he would be interested in what you have to add to the story.

Thanks jamston - interesting link and I am watching now.

Website: http://terroronthetube.co.uk/

[jamston]

Nick has written about this thread on his site.

http://terroronthetube.co.uk/2011/02/02/how-khan-was-set-up/#more-2172

Islamvslizards, i recommend you get in touch with nick at www.terroronthetube.co.uk and share your information. As i said, hes seems to have the most plausible and cohesive theory regarding 7/7. Saying that, new lies are appearing daily from the inquest that add and detract from everyones theories. Still nicks theories re no khan there on the day, bombers shot dead and his stuff about positions of holes in carriages and bombers etc is very compelling.

Interesting times for 7/7 research ...

[revelator]

It`s a good solid piece to the jigsaw of the real story of 7/7 you`ve given here.It helps confirm those 4 innocent men were,so they believed, paid to take part in a very professional and realistic emergency exercise.

I believe that when this `exercise` went to, quote "real time doing"(Peter Power),2 maybe 3 of these paid actors made their way to Canary Wharf and were executed,`they` had no choice.That`s the part of the real 7/7 story that needs more exposure that`s the crux for me,i believe the `suicide bombers` were KILLED at Canary Wharf therefore they could not possibly be responsible,they were KILLED.Getting some brave witness to say what they saw at Canary Wharf that day that will help to finish the publics continued belief in`their` suicide bomber fantasy and evil story.

[cooperlee]

are there any comprehensive youtube videos about 7/7?

[theroach]

are there any comprehensive youtube videos about 7/7?

There is the Muad'dib video...the one he got banged up for....Ripple Effect.

(1 of 7) 7/7 Ripple Effect - YouTube

[ragnarok]

This idea of the security services setting up a mock terrorist attack, would seem to be an obvious exercise for these people to carry out. Apart from the inclusion of real explosives, I'd be shocked if our security services weren't doing training procedures like this regularly.

[jamston]

There is the Muad'dib video...the one he got banged up for....Ripple Effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2NXPl625A

I'd say watch nick kollerstroms recent one i posted too, but after watching ripple effect, because he refers to it a bit. Nicks is more up to date and i believe more on the money because his interpretation includes the new evidence from the inquest and his theory that khan wasnt even in london on the day and was 'removed' the night before perhaps.

[belfast atheist]

naw, not buying this story. way too far fetched(now when they come for the rest of you i'll be ok)

[dreamscope]

This idea of the security services setting up a mock terrorist attack, would seem to be an obvious exercise for these people to carry out. Apart from the inclusion of real explosives, I'd be shocked if our security services weren't doing training procedures like this regularly.

There were all sorts of regular training drills put in place in the city after 7/7, but they key thing here and it's a bit of an eye-opener:

peter power himself (the guy in charge of the security firm running the 'exercise' that day) is on TV as saying that was the first time such an exercise had been carried out, and that the targets and times for the exercise just oh-so-coincidentially happened to be exactly the same as those that were actually blown up. There's a few clips on the tube about him, the whole thing stinks something rotten.

[signalnorth]

I distinctly remember on the day reports of someone being shot outside Canary Wharf. Then this was dropped from future news reports

[signalnorth]

Blimey.... So what are all these teachers who got told this doing about it?

Not growing any balls very wuickly that's for sure.

[revelator]

A difficulty in researching 7/7 is in the fact it was perpertrated literally underground except for `their` bold bus attack the so named 4th Bomb.The imagery of the aftermath of this bombing dominated TV news coverage in a similar way to that of the images of the `planes` on 9/11,helping to create the desired and intended traumatising effect on us.

An excellent and brave account by Daniel Obachike,bus bomb survivor on 7/7, titled The 4th Bomb is a book i can highly recommend,this man is a living hero.The State orchestrated harassment he has bravely chronicled since that day is testament that `they`fear the story he has to tell and influence he has in exposing the official story as a tissue of lies.When faced with the harsh reality that large scale murder was perpertrated that day, with as is ever more apparent a callous motivated fear and control agenda,good people prepared to speak up are so crucial if we`ve any future worth having.Thankyou Daniel Obachike and other truthers out there for your good and brave efforts.

[jamston]

An excellent and brave account by Daniel Obachike,bus bomb survivor on 7/7, titled The 4th Bomb is a book i can highly recommend,this man is a living hero.The State orchestrated harassment he has bravely chronicled since that day is testament that `they`fear the story he has to tell and influence he has in exposing the official story as a tissue of lies.When faced with the harsh reality that large scale murder was perpertrated that day, with as is ever more apparent a callous motivated fear and control agenda,good people prepared to speak up are so crucial if we`ve any future worth having.Thankyou Daniel Obachike and other truthers out there for your good and brave efforts.

Some doubt the authenticity of Mr 'Obachike'. Hes been caught fibbing a bit, what motivation does he have for lying? Money, i would guess.

http://terroronthetube.co.uk/2011/01/15/closing-time-for-mr-obachike/

[wolfhead]

There were all sorts of regular training drills put in place in the city after 7/7, but they key thing here and it's a bit of an eye-opener:

peter power himself (the guy in charge of the security firm running the 'exercise' that day) is on TV as saying that was the first time such an exercise had been carried out, and that the targets and times for the exercise just oh-so-coincidentially happened to be exactly the same as those that were actually blown up. There's a few clips on the tube about him, the whole thing stinks something rotten.

Funny how Power refused to be interveiwed and like Lady Di's bodyguard (the one who bit his toungue off cleanly and in a straight line), emigrated to the ass end of beyond pretty damn quick!

[dreamscope]

Funny how Power refused to be interveiwed and like Lady Di's bodyguard (the one who bit his toungue off cleanly and in a straight line), emigrated to the ass end of beyond pretty damn quick!

Yeah didn't he just, the slimy little barstard! Would love to pin some history on that guy, mainly like his company's history and who he had met with regarding that 'exercise'.

Is that Trevor Rhys-Jones you mention? Read his book but don't remember about his tongue being cut off...will have to read it again.

[noewhan]

Interesting thread...

In the doco, 7/7 Ripple effect it claims the photo of the 'terrorists' *may* have been photo shopped.

Let the truth be known!

[lizzy]

Evidence suggests they were given dummy bombs and the devices were placed under the carriages and on the bus. Nick Kollerstrom has been doing the best work on 7/7 in my opinion, he did a talk very recently which is here

http://blip.tv/file/4640329

I shall alert him to this thread, i think he would be interested in what you have to add to the story.

This is how how I understand it.
Thankyou IvL....must have been a bit traumatic for the teachers' you mentioned.

http://dissential.com/presents/starstika/

Precisely......by rodin.

[hadabusa]

i have worked in the past with the teachers of south leeds high school (where one of the "bombers" worked as a teacher).

i was told (in confidence) something, which was the real reason i joined this forum around a year/ 2 years ago.

im in two minds whether to reveal it here, under the cloak of anonymity, or is there still a chance i can be traced via my IP etc? im not to keen on ending up being suicided

youre *not* safe behind any IP addy.

however, put on scarf, hat+go post it from an internet cafe or free wireless site, under an alternative account.

[bob_jones]

i have worked in the past with the teachers of south leeds high school (where one of the "bombers" worked as a teacher).

i was told (in confidence) something, which was the real reason i joined this forum around a year/ 2 years ago.

im in two minds whether to reveal it here, under the cloak of anonymity, or is there still a chance i can be traced via my IP etc? im not to keen on ending up being suicided

Basically you have made the most dangerous approach of all.

A classic Lady Diana.

You are saying you know something but keeping your cards against your chest.

That is THE most dangerous way to do it of all.

Just spit it out and tell everyone in real life too; with good cheer, a happy heart and a big smile.

You basicaly are letting yourself life in fear...like a dangerous dog they can sense it.

I mean if you think about it all the stuff I write up would be way too mega heavy for Alex Jones for example.

But I do it as the truth is my God and I know I am a righteous and happy man with nothing to worry about.

I cause the wrong dooer to fear...I never fear.

If you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.

Do you want to let the terrorists win?

Then just do not live in fear.

How can you have fun in life if you worry about something like dangerous murderers.

I have had the Ipswich serial killer stalking me for years and yeras...they guy who bribed Henry Paul and set up the murder of Lady Diana Dyfed_Powys Police Chief Inspector Kieran Cosgrove and the man in the tunnel Sergeant 495 Julian Benet.

But I have a happy care free life.

It is just I don't get enough sex because they send bent cops or my "friends" to bribe women I am chatting up on nights out as soon as my back is turned or I go for a pee.

Never mind!!!

There is still my gal Pam (of my hand ha ha ha ah).

[martg]

He already did put it out there bob, check post #7

I think many of assumed it happened that way, it seems to be the way these things happen.

There was that whistleblower in the USA that took part in an FBI operation to put a bomb in the world trade centre, and then found out the bomb was real.

[bob_jones]

He already did put it out there bob, check post #7

I think many of assumed it happened that way, it seems to be the way these things happen.

There was that whistleblower in the USA that took part in an FBI operation to put a bomb in the world trade centre, and then found out the bomb was real.

The guy with all the false names...Mohamed this that and the other?

He did the first WTC bombing and ended up in jail for plotting to assassinate The Pope.

He did electrical engineering in Swansea University (Swansea Wales that is).

[paloem]

complete bollocks

why did they pull the switches on the vests to detonate.

why would anyone be so stupid as to believe this

is it not more believable that the muslims where completley pissed off with the intervention in iraq .

maybe there is more truth but this isnt it .

it is possible the security forces let the attacks happen , but doubtful they arranged it . the people going off to train in afgainistan to learn how to blow themselves up though it was all street theatre as well .

[dreamscope]

complete bollocks

why did they pull the switches on the vests to detonate.

why would anyone be so stupid as to believe this

is it not more believable that the muslims where completley pissed off with the intervention in iraq .

maybe there is more truth but this isnt it .

it is possible the security forces let the attacks happen , but doubtful they arranged it . the people going off to train in afgainistan to learn how to blow themselves up though it was all street theatre as well .

Yes it's hard to accept isn't it? Must admit, I had trouble accepting it at first.

Are you aware of Peter Power? How his company, 'Visor Consultants' were running an exercise that morning simulating terror attacks on the very same stations at the very same times that actually happened? That this was the first time such an exercise had been carried out?

Are you aware that this was the same way the first WTC bombing was carried out, under guise of an 'exercise'?

Now tell me, why did so many witnesses on the tube, including the tube driver and first responders from the police and paramedics, say the bombs had been planted under the floor of the carriage?

Why did the official version place the positions of the 'bombers' on the tubes in places where no eyewitnesses could recall seeing anybody? One eyewitness was sitting right next to where they said a bomber was, yet he says he was sitting next to nobody, and he was relatively unscathed by the bombing?

Can you answer those questions?

[brokenshadow]

I actually thought this was common knowledge. The exact same thing happened in New York, 9/11, a fake exercise was set up to test security. It slows down response times and allows things to happen right under your nose. Even one of the guys working for the consultation admitted they were doing an exercise that day when the real thing happened.
The backpacks didn't contain real explosives. The trains were blown from underneath, the bombs were set long before, the backpacks were purely dummy.
My 2 cents... looking at evidence the bombs were triggered by a current surge through the tracks which is how they were sychronised. This explains why the news reports reported the train network shutting down due to a current surge before the story broke. This also cast some light into why DeMenzies was executed after working on the electrical system as a contractor. (apologies for incorrect spelling of his name.)

[bodge]

I would like to add something here, if I may. An Israeli bouncer grabbed hold of a guy at the doors of a bar in Israel and the guy detonated himself but the bouncer suffered no injuries apart from shock. The Abercorn Bomb in Belfast when I was a soldier near the area killed I think about 7 people but the two people who where virtually on top of bomb where they where sat only suffered permanent deafness, miraculous. Dont be fooled into thinking you would be blown to pieces by being very close to the bomb it doesnt work that way. However, I do not believe not for one second that anyone blew themselves up with a homemade peroxide bomb. To start with the mix however well made does not like to be "juggled about" as it is very unstable rather like NitroGlycerine, it doesnt take much to detonate it.

I have studied the interior cab pictures with an intensity and the pictures tell me those carriages where blown up from underneath and from what I have read given the small amount of actual real time information is that where supposed to have been samples of military grade C4 particulates that have not been explained yet.

The whole affair stinks to hell and given the vast number of similarities with the events in New York, ie, "Training for the event" on the very same day. Two years before the event a TV programme made to "discover" what would be done "in the event" (the same here as in the US)

Way too many similarities and far too many coincidences make for an impossible situation. It was without a shadow of a doubt a state aided terror event carried out by (probably) Mossad or another foreign intelligence with the help of high level contacts, exactly the same as the US situation. In order to force the "Anti-Terror" legislation through and much of that was written before the 7/7 event. The US Patriot Act and Homeland Defence was all written up before the events occurred (when in living memory have a government department ever in their history been that efficient. "never")

[dreamscope]

I would like to add something here, if I may. An Israeli bouncer grabbed hold of a guy at the doors of a bar in Israel and the guy detonated himself but the bouncer suffered no injuries apart from shock. The Abercorn Bomb in Belfast when I was a soldier near the area killed I think about 7 people but the two people who where virtually on top of bomb where they where sat only suffered permanent deafness, miraculous. Dont be fooled into thinking you would be blown to pieces by being very close to the bomb it doesnt work that way. However, I do not believe not for one second that anyone blew themselves up with a homemade peroxide bomb. To start with the mix however well made does not like to be "juggled about" as it is very unstable rather like NitroGlycerine, it doesnt take much to detonate it.

I have studied the interior cab pictures with an intensity and the pictures tell me those carriages where blown up from underneath and from what I have read given the small amount of actual real time information is that where supposed to have been samples of military grade C4 particulates that have not been explained yet.

The whole affair stinks to hell ...

Good points added, and I'm in total agreement that it stinks badly.

The point I should have added is that the diagrams used in the inquiry do accurately reflect where the people who were killed were standing; right next to the centre of the carriage near the double doors. Which is right next to where eyewitnesses say that bomb went off.

Point to note, that they were able to distinguish between the blown-out 'manhole covers' on the tube floor and the larger, jagged hole in the centre of the carriage.

[bodge]

I was a soldier for many years and have seen this sort of damage up close and personal and therefore "experienced" enough to make a judgement not based on internet theorising.

I am not surprised that the "official" version of events is easily swallowed as the truth is pretty nauseous and people really dont want to know. (it might upset their reviewing the coronation street "terror event" :eek:

[dreamscope]

(it might upset their reviewing the coronation street "terror event" :eek:

:D

I was a soldier too, only for one year though. My personal experience of the business end of bomb blasts came later on as a civilian though, and I count myself quite lucky not to be another statistic amongst the hundreds of dead and thousands of wounded that I was witness to; I'm not speaking from internet-based theorising either.

[bob_jones]

complete bollocks

why did they pull the switches on the vests to detonate.

why would anyone be so stupid as to believe this

is it not more believable that the muslims where completley pissed off with the intervention in iraq .

maybe there is more truth but this isnt it .

it is possible the security forces let the attacks happen , but doubtful they arranged it . the people going off to train in afgainistan to learn how to blow themselves up though it was all street theatre as well .


From Bob's Album page...


The Hindu Madrid Bomber From M.I.6
Sightings Of A Train Bomber

I have met the Hindu Madrid train bomber three times since the bombings on 11/03/04. I was arrested by Llanelli police on 17/05/04 in connection with a pavement protest in chalk that had been read by thousands of people. It was about the attempt on my life using VX-nerve gas on 11/02/04. The police refuse point blank to take a complaint of attempted murder.
While I was in Llanelli police station the police informed me that George Stephanophalis of abc news had been on the phone and he insisted that I was put in a mental hospital, not because I was mentally ill, but because he was complaining that I was wreaking George Bush's "war on terror" and he was worried I would prove he did 9/11.
The plan with the VX-nerve gas was to murder me and blame Al-Qaeda and say they had found the weapons of mass destruction. I narrowly survived and so they had to portray it falsely as a symptom of an illness I do not have.
I was taken to St David's hospital Carmarthen where Dr Samanta did the admission report. He is the Hindu Madrid bomber from M.I.6 and was not in prison in Spain. He is not a regular doctor of West Wales. Most have not heard of him.
I escaped after a week and travelled through Ireland and returned to North Wales where I found a job selling camping gear and worked there for nine months until I resigned due to industrial terrorism.
I went back to Ireland and on 7/7/05, the day of the London bombings I was in Dublin. I threw a rucksack into the German embassy and got myself arrested by the Gardi.
It was broadcast on RTE that I was in Al-Qaeda and linked to the London bombers.
I went to prison for a week on remand and was given a psychiatric assessment that confirmed that I was not mentally ill at all.
The Irish psychiatrist ordered a physical examination as he was concerned about my injuries sustained by having the drinking water supply poisoned with carcinogenic chemicals at 22a New Road, Llanelli, in the run up to the VX-nerve gas attack on 11/02/04.
I have a calcious lump in my throat that was growing fast in the spring of 2004 and I had arrested its growth by drinking a large bottle of vinegar everyday for a month.
The doctor that examined me in Clover Hill remand prison in Dublin was Dr. Samanta again. This time he was posing as an ordinary doctor.
He said the lump in my throat was "All completely normal; swollen glands".
The Russians agree with me that he was talking complete rubbish.
Again he was not in prison in Spain after his arrest following the Madrid bombings.
I jumped the bail as the Gards had been bribed by Chief Inspector Kieran Crosgrove of Dyfed-Powys police who is also in M.I.6 and had bribed Henry Paul £200,000 and set up the murder of Lady Diana.
I went to Scotland and was hounded by M.I.5 operation shield.
I had a short break in Berwick on Tweed at the end of August 2005 and in the Foulis chip shop in Tweed Mouth I saw Dr. Samanta again.
He was posing as the chip shop manager. I had gravy and chip and it was very nice so I went back and had it again.
This time he sent for the gravy from the back. I asked why and he told me they had run out. But he wanted bio-chemical warfare terror weapons in the gravy.
This time when I ate the gravy and chips my guts started bubbling and I had liquid runs within twenty minutes.
That was the last time I saw the Hindu Madrid train bomber from M.I.6.
It is an interesting point that Lance Corporal Jebrom Hashmir and Corporal Peter Thorpe are both still alive and were in Llanelli at the time their deaths in Afghanistan were reported in the national press.
Corporal Peter Thorpe was drinking beer in the Masons Arms in Llanelli the Saturday night before his death in a rocked propelled grenade attack was announced.

Robert Alexander Jones. 0 None
Bob Beats Off Bent Cops And Logic Defeats Deciet
Blackmail and Psychiatry
On Wednesday the 16th of August 2000 Robert Alexander Jones was arrested under suspicion of blackmail.
He had been in a mental hospital for a while earlier that year. He was previously arrested on 18/01/00 in Llanelli town precinct for refusing to clean a slogan off a wall that he had written in coloured chalk.
The slogan was not complete when the police arrived and was going to read:-
NIPA VIAGRA FRAUD MONEY BRIBES PRIME MINISTER
There was no complaint of criminal damage by the owners of the wall and so the arrest for criminal damage was by definition unlawful. The police were keen to take the local celebrity “psychopath” off the streets as a previous precinct chalking stunt had made the BBC Wales news the previous November and had upset the Home Secretary.
Robert Alexander Jones was discharged from hospital on 10/03/00 having been tortured with the strongest and most soul destroying chemical tortures.
They had accused him of being delusional about being called a psychopath and were keen to take bribes from the police to give opinions and make accusations that were grossly defamatory, baseless and malicious.
Robert had not been the sort of person to be taken in by the frauds of psychiatry and so was not going to allow the state to get rich with corrupt and illegal payments at the expense of his career and liberty.
So Robert made a reasonable approach to the hospital for damages.
The demands for money were clear. Robert Alexander Jones wanted damages of £21,000 for the false imprisonment, deformation of his character and a complete and utter withdrawal of the slanderous and malicious allegation of hyper mania.
The hospital had a familiar tactic of making a criminal allegation in order to achieve an arrest so that access could be gained with a pre-determined plan to place Robert under section of the mental health act.
So on Wednesday the 16th of August 2000 the hospital contacted the police; to tell them that there were being blackmailed and made a complaint.
The police arrested Robert and took him to the police station.
Robert was immediately sent to see the doctor as the police had no intention of perusing the complaint of blackmail and had made the arrest on entirely false premises.
However the corrupt social worker that was part of the ambush did not get her way.
The doctor was satisfied that Robert Alexander Jones was fit to be interviewed and so after Robert had put the heavies on Inspector Lindsey and found the police to have told lies about the theft of four pieces of A4 paper from his bed-sit, the police reluctantly had to interview Robert about the very serious criminal allegation that had been made.
During interview under suspicion of making unreasonable and unwarranted demands for money with menaces Robert Alexander Jones took control and did most of the talking.
It was pointed out to the police that the menaces are that I say the hospital have made false and malicious allegations of mental illness and it is obviously true that the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious or the hospital would never have perceived my assertion of that fact to be a threat.
It is thereby and only thereby that my demands for money are both reasonable and warranted.
It was pointed out that if the allegations of mental illness are not false and malicious then the demands for money are neither reasonable nor warranted and Robert was guilty of a very serious offence and the police must press charges.
It was accepted by the police that the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious and thereby the demands for money were both reasonable and warranted and it was therefore accepted that Robert Alexander Jones was not guilty of the offence of blackmail and was released without charge.
There is no way Robert could have been released without charge unless the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious because that is what made Robert’s demands for money both reasonable and warranted.
However Llanelli police were not to be defeated by logic and rational argument and so as soon as Robert was released in the lobby of the police station he was immediately re-arrested under section 136 of the mental health act and forced to under go psychiatric assessment.
This was a blatant unlawful arrest as the police had been comprehensively defeated in their attempts to present a gross defamation as fact and had no logical basis to make any utterance whatsoever.
By this time the time was getting late and the corrupt social worker had gone home and so the assessment under the mental health act was done by professional that had not been given corrupt and illegal payments.
Robert Alexander Jones was declared to be not sectionable and so had to be released from custody again with the promise that he would go and see a general practitioner to get something to take the edge of like Valium for example.
By this time Robert had missed his date and so did not have the fun he was intending to have that day.
The general practitioner was under whelmed by Robert when he sat down in his office a few days later.
Robert told him he needed something to take the edge off and was ordered out of the surgery immediately for wasting the doctor’s time.
This was the art of logic applied to a bogus medical system that claims to have medical products that promote rational thinking.
And yet anyone with a basic grasp of the concept of logic will accept that Robert Alexander Jones had proven that the allegations of mental illness were indeed false and malicious in the first place.
The slanderers were confounded by rational thinking and didn’t like their quackery being shown up for the fraud it really is.
To this day they can not accept that they lost big time. But it is not them that I seek concurrence with and so again they are devalued and discredited for the frauds and irrational oppressors that they really are.
VICTORY ROBERT ALEXANDER JONES 0 None
The Complete Works of Snake's Trident
Fraudulent Psychiatric Drugs
I graduated with a degree in chemical engineering form Swansea University in 1997. My first job a chemical engineer was a Nipa Laboratories in Llantwit Fardre near Pontypridd in the South Wales Valleys.
My main responsibility was to run the P2 methanol recovery Column. This was to distil a mixture of 10% methanol 90% water into a top product of 99% methanol and not more than 1% water and produce a waste product of 99% water and not more than 1% methanol that was sent to the effluent storage tank before being tanked away by Welsh Water for treatment before it could be put in the dirty water drainage system of the country.
During my job interview I was warned by the Technical Director Gareth Vokins that the site was dirty as most of the chemicals had no pharmacological tests done on them. As the months went by I came to appreciate the serious illegality of this. Garth Vokin's God son the Healthy and Safety Officer Glyn Cox told me that there were no safety trap doors around the ladders on the three story high distillation column because he had bribed the Health and Safety Executive £800 for them to pass the safety certificate to allow them to being production at the commissioning stage of the life of the distillation column. The law requires any ladder of over three meters in height to have safety trap doors at the opening at the top or safety gates so that workers can not fall to their potential death by stepping into the opening around the top of the ladders. For pulling of the job off bribing the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) he told me he was given £400 by Gareth Vokins. Glyn Cox told me how it was an on going thing to give bribes to the HSE and that the man from the HSE that inspected the column was not interested in it at all but was keen to come up to the office to pick up his cheque for £800.
One day there was a chemistry problem with the development of the process for a new product and Gareth Vokins was losing his temper as he frequently did as he had earned the nick name "The Viper".
I walked into the laboratory part of the factory and was confided in by a Scots man that worked there. He told me that he did not know why the Viper was shouting at him because he was not a chemist but a psychologist and that he was only pretending to be a chemist for cover for his real job at Nipa Laboratories.
He went on to tell me that Nipa laboratories did not make that much money from producing and selling chemicals but that he had been secretly assessed at Swansea University while doing his degree in psychology for criminal tendencies before being offered his job at Nipa. He told me that they had taken the chance that he would not mind being a criminal to earn lots of money and were right. He said that he had paid off the mortgage on a three story house in King Edwards Road in Swansea only two and a half years after graduation for doing his secret job at Nipa Laboratories.
He explained that his job was to do medical research for the institute of psychiatry in London, the professional body governing psychiatrists. He told me that I too had been secretly assessed at university for criminal attributes and that his job was to write research notes on the workers claiming that the chemicals that they were illegally being exposed to were having beneficial effects on their mental health.
He told me that he had me down as being a little bit mentally ill when I left university but having been exposed to chemicals at Nipa Laboratories I was better.
He confided that the typical profit on a psychiatric drug is 4000% and so he had to write research notes claiming that the chemicals at Nipa were having anti-psychotic effects on the workers. He admitted that he made this up entirely but said that he had to do it because that is what made the money.
He told me how the notes he made were sold as research to the institute of psychiatry in London and they would sell them on to pharmaceutical companies at a profit with the assurance that they would make sure their members the psychiatrists would all say the chemical was an anti-psychotic if they developed it onto the market as a psychiatric drug.
This was except for the reprographic printing ink. They were not making any money on the printing ink business as they could be manufactured more cheaply in the Far East and so they were keeping that one for themselves as it was being developed as an anti-psychotic medication that was going to produce an 8000% profit.
He said that at first he never thought he would get away with it but the man that did secondary research for them thought it was a really good anti-psychotic and he was getting good results by testing it on humans that were meant to be mentally ill.
This was developed, I believe, by BTP and is now on the market as an A-typical anti-psychotic called Respiradone marketed by Janssen and is sold to the NHS for £120 per injection. It causes permanent lactation in women so they have to change their bras every day and I have heard that it causes the face to tingle. It needs an extra large nozzle for injection as the particles of soot are squashed by the small hole in a normal hypodermic needle.
He told me that he could not believe that it was taken to be a cure for mental illness as he had made up the claims that it was having any beneficial effect on the mental health of the workers at Nipa Laboratories entirely.
He also told me that the biocide facility was been used for chemical weapons research by the Ministry of Defence and that if anyone ever tried to blow the whistle on it that they would be assassinated by the Ministry of Defence.
The law requires that any chemical in production has pharmacological tests done on them as they must be submitted to the Health and Safety Executive so that they can use the toxicity data etc to set an occupational exposure limit.
However none were done on the vast majority of chemicals at Nipa Laboratories so that it was not even legal to expose worker to the smell of these chemicals. As no occupational exposure limit had been set as this sets out the maximum level in the air that a worker can be exposed to for 8hrs per day six days a week and 52 weeks of the year.
The maintenance manager Roy Rixon was in charge of sacking people that became ill due to exposure to chemicals at Nipa Laboratories. He would tell them that they were complacent and that their hearts were not in the job because they had come out in a big red rash or become pale as a sheet and lacking in energy.
I was sacked by Roy Rixon for this reason on 28/01/98.
Nipa laboratories were part of BTP plc with their headquarters in Cadishead in Manchester. The share price slumped in 1999 despite the police corruption they had funded to re-butt the truth about their corrupt and illegal practices. They would regularly send out spies to community meetings about the smells coming from the factory to make sure that Friends of the Earth were not onto them for covering the local hosing and woodland with chemicals with no pharmacological tests done on them.
During February and March 2000 the share trading firm Potam managed a take-over by Swiss owned chemical giant Clarient as they are no listed on the stock exchange and so did not need a reputation for honest accounting and so on.
So now the whole of what was BTP is called Clarient Chemicals and so there is a Clarient Chemicals in Llantwit Fardre between Llantrisant and Pontypridd.
The accountant told me to stop collecting data on the P2 methanol recovery column because he was going to include more overheads to make it look more profitable.
Written by Robert Alexander Jones on 22/09/07 revised 12/12/07 0 None
M.I.6's London Bombings
M.I.6 Did The London Bombings
As a VX-nerve gas survivor it is clear to me that almost all of the terrorism in the “war on Terror” is being done by the CIA, FBI and M.I.5 and M.I.6.
I was VX-nerve gassed on 11/02/04 at 22a, New Road, Llanelli. The plan was to blame Al-Qaeda and say they had found the weapons of mass destruction. The local police are saturated with corruption and would not take a complaint of attempted murder. A Pc showed up months later and told me to move away and change my name by deed poll.
On 17/05/04 I was arrested in connection with pavement chalking in Sandy Water Park and Llanelli beach front as the protest was about the use of biological weapons and VX-nerve gas. I was told by police that day that George Stephanophalis of abc news had been on the phone and had insisted that I was put in a mental hospital as he was complaining that I was wreaking George Bush’s “war on terror” and he was worried I would prove he did 9/11. That was the beginning of my suspicion that he had done 9/11. And in fact there are plenty of articles on the internet about the world trade centre being brought down by thermite explosives and not as the result of plane strike.
The next day there was a man hunt story for the “Sinister park graffiti artist” deep in the Llanelli Star newspaper (18/04/04) and a similar article in the Evening Post headline “Attack on local doctors”.
I was admitted to St, David’s hospital Carmarthen by Dr. Samanta the M.I.6 Hindu Madrid train bomber. I had recognised him as his photo was broadcast on TV not long after the bombings on 11/03/04.
The logic was simple for Blair and Bush.
It was coming out that there was no UN mandate to invade Iraq. So if they blew Madrid then the Spanish would be unbowed by terror and vote the existing Spanish government back into office. Thus keeping Spain in the Iraq war and letting them tell people they have a broad international coalition in place of a UN mandate.
All the predictions in the press after 11/03/04 were that it would sure up the Spanish government in the marginal polls and keep Spain in the Iraq war.
The Spanish did the opposite that the psychologists predicted and voted for the opposition by a landslide, as they had a manifesto commitment to withdraw from Iraq.
I escaped from hospital after a week and stayed at large until the section expired. That settles any argument in law about the lawfulness of the detention. The law is clear; that if you can evade capture until the section expires then you were by definition unlawfully detained as you would not have been able to do so if you had a genuine mental disorder.
General Michael Hadon was brought in with a USAF spy plane that found me in Pembrey forest and the SAS stole my keys and wallet.
Hadon was rewarded with director generalship of the CIA.
I took £1000 cash and went to Ireland where M.I.6 used an IRA double agent to try and get me murdered by the IRA. The double agent came out later as he felt the world was one safe brotherhood of people on the make and got shot in Donegal by the IRA.
I returned to North Wales from Ireland and found a job selling camping gear.
I stayed there from August 2004 until the end of May 2005 when I resigned due to industrial terrorism. Terry Blair, Tony Blair’s cousin; the man that shot Jill Dando; bribed my landlady Trys Morris £50,000 to do bio-warfare terrorism on me and I had to counter attack and gave the entire shared house the runs.
On one occasion I intercepted a call from George Bush to her.
I could not get help from the police as I am in effect an outlaw.
On the day of the London bombings, I was in Dublin and had been harassed by the SAS while working in as a gardener for Mrs Elisabeth Corr, the Irish justice minister; Michael McDowell’s aunty in law.
I had my reports stolen while camping in her garden and re-written to include spelling mistakes, to make me look like an idiot.
So when the French embassy in Dublin told me that bombs had gone off in London on 7/7/05 I went to see the Japanese. While I was talking to them outside their embassy next to Tesco, I was interrupted by the Gardi. I spoke to them for an hour and they thanked me for my information and gave me false names; Kieran Crosgove and Gerad Hickey.
This was later to give me the name of Chief Inspector Kieran Crosgove of Dyfed-Powys police the M.I.6 agent Y that bribed Henry Paul £200,000 and set up the murder of Lady Diana.
I went to see Sergeant Ryan in Dunlaoghaire to re-double my efforts to get a forensic examination of my rucksack of evidence that he had had finger printed and said that my magazines had probably been handled by someone wearing gloves.
This was because Trys Morris had been doing what Dr. David Kelly had called dark actor’s playing games. Thefts, put-backs and move around.
He was not there so I tried phoning the Daily Telegraph and found that the pay-phone dialling was scrambled.
I had been told to stay away from embassies and to dump my evidence in a bush by the Gardi.
So I dumped my rucksack into the grounds of the German embassy to comply with both requests. There was no need to ring the bell.
I had written “VX-gas forensic evidence-not dangerous” on the rucksack with a marker pen.
I was latter arrested by the Garda E177 Liam Mc Gready and sent to prison for a week at Dublin District Court 46. He told the judge that I had written “XT-gas” on the rucksack and had had a bribe from Agent Y. He never interviewed me.
I was given a clean bill of mental health by the psychiatrist from Dundrum hospital and a physical examination by Dr. Samanta the Madrid bomber.
On the 15/07/05 I was given bail and Chief Inspector Kieran Crosgrove of Dyfed-Powys police was being the custody sergeant. He was wearing a false moustache and doing a comedy Irish accent.
On 7/7/05 I found out that it had be broadcast on RTE the Irish TV that I was in Al-Qaeda and that was linked to the London bombers. They had taken a photo of my rucksack and put it in the film of the London bombers using multi-media computers. I had seen my rucksack in the film of the London bombers on CNN from the prison cell. My rucksack was an Intrepid 55litre and it was twenty years old. It can not be bough on the high street these days. I pointed this out and it had to be taken out of the film of the London bombers. Now the film of the London bombers contains modern rucksacks.
I went to Scotland and was spied on by Peter Clarke of Scotland Yard he is about 6’4’’.
I found out from a poster called Margaret Thatcher on the MSN news message boards that she was told by the police that there was a suicide bomber arrested at Canary Wharf on 7/7/05 with explosives strapped to his body and that there was supposed to be a commotion at a Deulux paint factory. But they were never used by the media. This was because they were more concerned with my rucksack in Dublin.

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Alrighty then:confused::confused: I am a former Intelligence worker with an Intelligence Quotient of 111 it doesnt make me a spy.

[dreamscope]

Alrighty then:confused::confused: I am a former Intelligence worker with an Intelligence Quotient of 111 it doesnt make me a spy.

:D

Don't worry about bob, you get used to him in the same way you get used to your room-mate's farts: sometimes amusing, usually irritating

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I couldnt have put it better myself, well said. I will definately have to remember that one "like when your room mates fart":D