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brassneck69
09-12-2007, 09:46 PM
After watching the video i wondered has anyone tried to trace the source at all?

Surely if the video/woman could be traced it could start off a revolution of unparalleled importance.

cyince
09-12-2007, 11:45 PM
I believe woghd, has said he is in contact with her.

I would like to see the uncompressed source file of the video.

woghd
10-12-2007, 12:22 AM
We have been in contact with the woman for months. She has stated that she would like to do an interview, but we have not so far pinned down any details about when or how. It's not like we want to twist her arm. She has not denied posessing any shapeshifting abilities. There is a large, much clearer video, complete with sound, at realshapeshifters.com

Archangel

cyince
10-12-2007, 02:14 AM
There is a large, much clearer video, complete with sound, at realshapeshifters.com

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Could you please post the link? I am unable to find it. The dowload link on the page is http://realshapeshifters.com/download.php?op=getit&lid=9 and it just sends me to youtube

adimon
10-12-2007, 02:18 AM
Nobody on this forum has ever been able to find the original video.

woghd
10-12-2007, 03:21 AM
Adimon, all the people who have been looking must be idiots then, because the download has been on the very front page of realshapeshifters.com since the very first day. It's at the bottom of the right column, under the David Icke Ads.

here it is also:
http://realshapeshifters.com/downloads/reptilian-girl.flv

As for people not finding the link...well...
let's just say they need to work on their research skills.
C'mon, it's been on the front page for months.

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cyince
10-12-2007, 03:36 AM
http://realshapeshifters.com/downloads/reptilian-girl.flv

As for people not finding the link...well...
let's just say they need to work on their research skills.
C'mon, it's been on the front page for months.

Archangel

But its not under the download section, which is where i thought it should be, but thats here nor there.

Do you have a video in the original format, as opposed to flash?

woghd
10-12-2007, 06:32 AM
But its not under the download section, which is where i thought it should be, but thats here nor there.

Do you have a video in the original format, as opposed to flash?

Don't take that personally, I was directing that at Adimon, who was implying that the video didn't exist, or some-such.
My apologies, and even to adimon. I seem to have a short temper today. You are all EXCELLENT RESEARCHERS.

As for the original video, I do not have it, I don't believe it exists any longer. After talking with the girl in the picture and emailing the photographer, I believe the copy you have is the best available copy. You'll notice that the abberrations and morphing only become CLEARER when looking at the better copy, which is the exact opposite of what one would expect if you wanted to blame the phenomena on compression or whatever.

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cyince
10-12-2007, 01:51 PM
That is why i'm so skeptical of this video. The original format was most likely QCIF which records at 176x144. The video was then re encoded to flv (a form of compression) and posted.

You'll notice that the abberrations and morphing only become CLEARER when looking at the better copy, which is the exact opposite of what one would expect if you wanted to blame the phenomena on compression or whatever.

Archangel

The youtube video player is 435x318, so its my contention that the effects you see are artifacts from the both the compression, and then subsequent increase in resolution.

Do you have any data on the camera the footage was shot on?

woghd
10-12-2007, 08:58 PM
That is why i'm so skeptical of this video. The original format was most likely QCIF which records at 176x144. The video was then re encoded to flv (a form of compression) and posted.



The youtube video player is 435x318, so its my contention that the effects you see are artifacts from the both the compression, and then subsequent increase in resolution.

Do you have any data on the camera the footage was shot on?

I'll see if I can find out more about the camera. Compression causes artifacts, nobody argues that. But there is substantial money offered for anyone who can show compression making someone look like a demon or reptile. Besides, as you can see, when a layer of digitalization is removed, the oddeties become CLEARER, not less pronounced as one would expect. In other words, the less compression you have, the more she looks like a demon or reptile. Also, more than half of the imagry on the video cannot be accounted for by compression AT ALL. I think you are misplacing your skepticism. If compression were the key, if it were really that simple, somebody would have collected the $25,000 by now.

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cyince
10-12-2007, 11:56 PM
I guess the whole issue with the video is that it is subjective. I don't think she looks like a reptile to begin with, that coupled with the video make me think nothing is out of the ordinary.

Its not just compression thats causing the oddities its the physical limitations of the equipment it was recorded on. Ignoring the reptilian angle, when ever there is movement the pixelation increases, the camera was simply not able to render a true digital image, and the result is the effect we see. This problem is amplified when the other light sources in the room interfere with the recording.

Thats just my opinion on the video.

woghd
11-12-2007, 03:46 AM
I guess the whole issue with the video is that it is subjective. I don't think she looks like a reptile to begin with, that coupled with the video make me think nothing is out of the ordinary.

Its not just compression thats causing the oddities its the physical limitations of the equipment it was recorded on. Ignoring the reptilian angle, when ever there is movement the pixelation increases, the camera was simply not able to render a true digital image, and the result is the effect we see. This problem is amplified when the other light sources in the room interfere with the recording.

Thats just my opinion on the video.

The opinion is valid, the only problem is that nobody has been able to prove it by demonstrating it by creating a similar video. Until someone debunks the video it must stand.

Just out of curiosity, do you believe if shapeshifting reptilians? It's been my experience that those who focus on compression glitches tend to be those who can't quite wrap their mind around the idea.

We are running an experiment where we will try to capture a shapeshifter on two cameras at once. If we could point our cameras into a crowd, from two different angles, and say, catch someone growing ridges or claws or something on TWO cameras, would you find that convincing?

We tried once before and failed, this will be attempt #2

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cyince
11-12-2007, 04:06 AM
I don't believe in shape shifting reptilians. Obvioulsy clear video of this phenomenon from 2 cameras would go a long way to convincing me otherwise. From what I've read, and the little research I've done, I understand how people could speculate on their existence however the majority of what i see is far from compelling. I'm generally skeptical of everything but try to challenge my beliefs regularly, and not to hold them as absolute.

woghd
17-12-2007, 06:48 AM
I don't believe in shape shifting reptilians. Obvioulsy clear video of this phenomenon from 2 cameras would go a long way to convincing me otherwise. From what I've read, and the little research I've done, I understand how people could speculate on their existence however the majority of what i see is far from compelling. I'm generally skeptical of everything but try to challenge my beliefs regularly, and not to hold them as absolute.

Thats a good thing though. I'll be sure to let you know how the experiment turns out. The last one produced no results at all. And this one may turn out to be the same, but you have to keep throwing your line into the water if you hope to catch a fish, right?

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truthdog
17-12-2007, 08:08 AM
I've seen the entire video. You can easily find it on Wo's website, and also youtube. This is a very interesting reptilian connection..

woghd
20-12-2007, 06:18 AM
I'm completely convinced the woman in the video is a shapeshifting reptilian, and possibly the cameraman as well. This is from emails and phone conversations I've had with her personally. She has not ruled out an interview, and I hope one day she will consent to one. The video itself is not the best of quality, but the quality is more than adequite to show the shapeshifting. To those who would argue that the shapeshifting is somehow caused by the bad quality, well there's a great deal of money on the line, payable to anyone who can show us how the video could have been faked or otherwise be rendered invalid. It's been months, and many experts have looked at it. None have been able to explain it.

So the video must stand.

My second favorite video is the Hillary Clinton Lizard Cocktail Party Video, because like Reptile Woman, it does not focus on eye evidence, but indeed shows an entire room full of them, in their normal habitat, as it were.

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dhama_initiative
26-02-2009, 11:30 PM
Chick is CUTE!

griswald
27-02-2009, 12:52 AM
I'm completely convinced the woman in the video is a shapeshifting reptilian, and possibly the cameraman as well. This is from emails and phone conversations I've had with her personally. She has not ruled out an interview, and I hope one day she will consent to one. The video itself is not the best of quality, but the quality is more than adequite to show the shapeshifting. To those who would argue that the shapeshifting is somehow caused by the bad quality, well there's a great deal of money on the line, payable to anyone who can show us how the video could have been faked or otherwise be rendered invalid. It's been months, and many experts have looked at it. None have been able to explain it.

So the video must stand.

My second favorite video is the Hillary Clinton Lizard Cocktail Party Video, because like Reptile Woman, it does not focus on eye evidence, but indeed shows an entire room full of them, in their normal habitat, as it were.

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Can somebody explain the reference to eye evidence please.
thanks

griswald

venividivici2311
27-02-2009, 12:57 AM
:eek: ive seen the video a couple of times,on youtube,but i just looked at the clearer video and i have to say,it scared the living daylights out of me....

Very convincing,id like to see anyone else trying to duplicate something like that,ill try it with my phone camera tomorrow,see if i can get some results,ill post the video as soon as ive seen something interesting.