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oiram
09-12-2007, 11:49 AM
Anyone likes to judge & kill me for my finall Conclusion you are Welcome!
Who ever, what ever would outlaw ore reject the Ten Commandments are clearly Anti God and not any rhetoric will change this
"Period!"
Only Antichrist would be tempted to outlaw Gods Ten Commandments!
soglad
09-12-2007, 12:00 PM
The Bible written by people, and commandments could be given to Moses by aliens or other beings masquerading as God.
Chill dude, you've more potential than this.
oiram
09-12-2007, 12:25 PM
The Bible written by people, and commandments could be given to Moses by aliens or other beings masquerading as God.
Chill dude, you've more potential than this.
Exactly my thinking the Bible was written by Humans and we all know how bend some Humans can be! History = Napoleon, WWI, WWII, Holocaust, 9/11, close to WWIII! Only the strict implementation of the original Ten Commandments would stop this Anti God & Anti Human Madness!
Never mind if they where Aliens they definitely made Ten smart rules! I still like to use the Name God in relation to the Ten Commandments
Could it be possible that you are on the others site of the fence!
Then you only have one option left to repent before, I did and it is a very nice feeling!
Don’t confuse Jesus with God! You may remember that your father is very close related to you!
Did the TEN COMMANDMENTS Precede Moses?
http://www.thercg.org/articles/dttcpm.html
Ten Commandments (wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
You know what makes me confident to trust the Ten Commandments!
I know for a fact that there was not one Organisation, Politician, Vatican Pope, CIA, FBI, Supreme court Judge, Illuminati, Elite, Banker ore Monkey playing around with these Ten Commandments!
soglad
09-12-2007, 12:28 PM
Eh, no. Again, the ten commandments are pretty much flawed mate. Think about it.
If God truly owns everything, and knows that "owned property" is just a construct of mind and that nobody truly own everything, it belongs to the universe, why would he consider theft a sin? If it belongs to no one, why is it a sin?
celtic isis
09-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Anyone likes to judge & kill me for my finall Conclusion you are Welcome!
Who ever, what ever would outlaw ore reject the Ten Commandments are clearly Anti God and not any rhetoric will change this
"Period!"
Only Antichrist would be tempted to outlaw Gods Ten Commandments!
you joined just to tell us this? :confused:
why would any of us want to kill you for saying this? i wouldn't go that far lol
the ten commandments are just a tool used to imprison people in fear of some judging god up there. No "God" would ever judge. We are the only ones to judge ourselves.
"God" is the conciousness that created everything, the spark...it loves all and everything that is part of its creation. And creation is love. Hence no need for any commandments, no "god" would ever command anything of any of us. This is our life here, our path and we are in control of it, at least in terms of our spiritual growth and evolvement. The material world as it's been hijacked by evil elitist insiders make invasions on our deelopment, but some of us break free from that...clearly you haven't yet!
I don't know lol what your point is with this post, you're a strange dude! just been looking quickly lookin at some of your other posts...;)
celtic isis
09-12-2007, 06:26 PM
Exactly my thinking the Bible was written by Humans and we all know how bend some Humans can be! History = Napoleon, WWI, WWII, Holocaust, 9/11, close to WWIII! Only the strict implementation of the original Ten Commandments would stop this Anti God & Anti Human Madness!
Never mind if they where Aliens they definitely made Ten smart rules! I still like to use the Name God in relation to the Ten Commandments
Could it be possible that you are on the others site of the fence!
Then you only have one option left to repent before, I did and it is a very nice feeling!
Don’t confuse Jesus with God! You may remember that your father is very close related to you!
Did the TEN COMMANDMENTS Precede Moses?
http://www.thercg.org/articles/dttcpm.html
Ten Commandments (wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
You know what makes me confident to trust the Ten Commandments!
I know for a fact that there was not one Organisation, Politician, Vatican Pope, CIA, FBI, Supreme court Judge, Illuminati, Elite, Banker ore Monkey playing around with these Ten Commandments!
:eek:
can you elaborate please on that last part...
You just trust the ten commandments cause the elite don't mess with or follow them?
:confused:
the ten commandments are half ok as basic rules for civlisation, but...well they're rubbish at the same time!
Worshipping only one god, when all the religons worship "different" gods, and each one according to them is the "true god", when it's all the one thing they're worshipping, the consciousness of creation, that created everything...
Taking god's name in vain and all that means nothing, i'm sure god couldn't care less. i mean really, do we still think like this? how juvenile.
Look, there's no god judging you so don't worry your little head about the ten commandments. Do what makes you happy in your life, as long as you don't kill or hurt anyone what does it matter.
in fairness, most of us know instinctively not to steal or hurt or kill another human being, yet so many people have been slaughtered all around the globe IN THE NAME OF GOD AND RELIGON.
PERIOD!
look "christianity" isn't the answer ok.
this little link of yours is COMPLETE INSIDERS/inlluminati OPERATION IN MOTION! that's the irony! http://www.thercg.org/articles/dttcpm.html
"the greatest questions - plain answers" LOL
octopusrex
09-12-2007, 06:29 PM
I like barganing.
Can we bring it down to four?
celtic isis
09-12-2007, 06:39 PM
I like barganing.
Can we bring it down to four?
hahaha! :D
i like it!
kblood
09-12-2007, 06:49 PM
Is one of the commandments to not follow any other god? Kinda revealing, since a truly good being should not mind whoever a person says he is praying to, as long as he follows the same basic principles. With this major flaw in the commandments, I believe they are all flawed. Good pointers, but not the best way to reach a higher conciousness.
drael
10-12-2007, 04:48 AM
Didnt jesus replace the ten commandments with "love thy neighbour as thyself"?
Personally i think the ten commandments are poor moral guides. "Harm no-one" in wicca, "love thy neigbour" in christianity, seem far more comprehensive and useful as guides.
Some of the ten commandments is about worshipping other gods (jelousy is always a good trait in a divine being!), and craving your neighbours stuff (Actually thats a pretty good moral guide, envy is pretty lame). Oh that and dont steal or kill....:)
Who needs these rules? You cant be a good person without a specific set of rules?
octopusrex
10-12-2007, 05:23 AM
I have never murdered anybody, so I can't talk about that.
I have coveted so many girls on websites that.. Welll... I need some slack from God there, please.
I don't steal. Goes against the grain. Never needed to do it.
What's the others?
I think I haff to go with the wiccan rede here.. Just playing on the safe side.
eternal_spirit
10-12-2007, 06:30 AM
Okay, I think these commandments where invented and introduced by men as to give people an ideal to live in a more harmonious way. Too make a society function smoothly.
Most of them make sense, if you do live by them, it should in theory and has done in practice been shown to work. The Koran and probably other books where invented by men for the same reasons.
Ask yourself, how many bad Christians have you known personally. I can't think of many from my own experiences.
celtic isis
10-12-2007, 11:02 AM
I have never murdered anybody, so I can't talk about that.
I have coveted so many girls on websites that.. Welll... I need some slack from God there, please.
I don't steal. Goes against the grain. Never needed to do it.
What's the others?
I think I haff to go with the wiccan rede here.. Just playing on the safe side.
so funny :D hehe humour puts crazy religious stuff right into perspective doesn't it ;)
celtic isis
10-12-2007, 11:09 AM
Okay, I think these commandments where invented and introduced by men as to give people an ideal to live in a more harmonious way. Too make a society function smoothly.
Most of them make sense, if you do live by them, it should in theory and has done in practice been shown to work. The Koran and probably other books where invented by men for the same reasons.
Ask yourself, how many bad Christians have you known personally. I can't think of many from my own experiences.
good post eternal :)
you're right my friend, this is what i was thinking too.
Well, i see myself as a good christian without actually being one and without being imprisoned/hynotised by the dogma/illusion!
I was brought up catholic/christian, aren't they the same thing lol? I guess not...a christian is supposed to follow christ's teachings...as the old saying goes "if more christians were actually more like their leader then they're be no probs" lol
But most don't folow anything of jesus actually said, they just follow the manufactured stuff barked to them at church etc...
It's good that they want to be "good people" but you can be a good person as nature intended without any religon.
Religon is not divine it is manmade. People really need o see this and seperate the term religon from being some kind of noble undertaking! It's NOT!
Religon means "to bring together" yet it does well in driving people apart doesn't it, in war and fighting and false seperation.
optimus pigpot
10-12-2007, 10:36 PM
Anyone likes to judge & kill me for my finall Conclusion you are Welcome!
Who ever, what ever would outlaw ore reject the Ten Commandments are clearly Anti God and not any rhetoric will change this
"Period!"
Only Antichrist would be tempted to outlaw Gods Ten Commandments!
What a mad twat!!!!!!!
optimus pigpot
10-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Okay, I think these commandments where invented and introduced by men as to give people an ideal to live in a more harmonious way. Too make a society function smoothly.
Most of them make sense, if you do live by them, it should in theory and has done in practice been shown to work. The Koran and probably other books where invented by men for the same reasons.
Ask yourself, how many bad Christians have you known personally. I can't think of many from my own experiences.
Sorry this is crap again. These books freed no-one as we were all free before they came.. These books actually imprisoned humanity and they did it with a huge effect upon 50% of humanity and they were called WOMEN!!!!!!!!!
Get a life and a brain. God did not create man in His own image. Man created God in his... Women had nothing to do with this and we know the people who wrote the Bible and all the other diversionary literature the very relations of the world leaders and wealthy bankers who now run the world.
Have you people really not read any of Icke's work... And if you have done, do you interpret it so it fits you're shallow, needy lives.......
His work leaves no room for those who say,"Yes but Jesus still has a place in this life..."
No, David Icke in The Children of The Matrix clearly said, Jesus never walked the Earth and he isn't real...
No but's, all you Christians and people of of religous persauions, I'm not sorry and I really hope it does offend you because all the verbal crap you spout has offended me and the whole of humanity since it all began... People have died because you freaks needed a part of your life filled...
And if I've forgot Buddhists and anyone else I'm sorry... I do mean to offend you as well.
Belief and faith. What a load of old shit!!!!!
There I've said it!!!!
All replies are more than welcome... But don't come without any proof. Evidence, not personal shit like, "I can feel the Lord in me".. Show me him, now, not in a book either... Show me your God....
eternal_spirit
10-12-2007, 11:30 PM
Sorry this is crap again. These books freed no-one as we were all free before they came.. These books actually imprisoned humanity and they did it with a huge effect upon 50% of humanity and they were called WOMEN!!!!!!!!!
Get a life and a brain. God did not create man in His own image. Man created God in his... Women had nothing to do with this and we know the people who wrote the Bible and all the other diversionary literature the very relations of the world leaders and wealthy bankers who now run the world.
Have you people really not read any of Icke's work... And if you have do you interpret it so it fits you're shallow, needy lives.......
............
Crap eh lol? I think I explained it better than you.
You're just in politically correct mode ( Bash and blame the Christians )
What's wrong with these commandments?
Thou shall not kill
Honor thy Father and Mother
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife
Thou shalt not steal
7 out of 10 are there to keep order in a society. That's what I'm saying. Use your common sense and see how the commandments would apply. They are guidelines for a more peacefull existence between fellow men and women.
Yes, I read Icke's first book within a year of it's release, and nearly all of them since then.
Shallow, if you say so. Now go wallow. Time to get out the pigpen.
eternal_spirit
10-12-2007, 11:40 PM
good post eternal :)
you're right my friend, this is what i was thinking too.
Well, i see myself as a good christian without actually being one and without being imprisoned/hynotised by the dogma/illusion!
I was brought up catholic/christian, aren't they the same thing lol? I guess not...a christian is supposed to follow christ's teachings...as the old saying goes "if more christians were actually more like their leader then they're be no probs" lol
But most don't folow anything of jesus actually said, they just follow the manufactured stuff barked to them at church etc...
It's good that they want to be "good people" but you can be a good person as nature intended without any religon.
Religon is not divine it is manmade. People really need o see this and seperate the term religon from being some kind of noble undertaking! It's NOT!
Religon means "to bring together" yet it does well in driving people apart doesn't it, in war and fighting and false seperation.
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I agree with most of this.
But to me it doesn't matter be you catholic, protestant or whatever kind, it's all Christianity. But as you say leave out the dogma. Just live the good points. No need to live in fear of going to Hell. Or take the Bible as the only truth and follow it religiously forgive the pun. :)
The story of Jesus in the Bible he was against the charging of interest on loans and didn't like the ruling priesthood of the time who where not Christians. They may have been Babylonian Talmudists, racist and ruled with money.
Seems Jesus wanted equality for all. Which is what a true Christian also believes.
Love and peace
optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 12:16 AM
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Crap eh lol? I think I explained it better than you.
You're just in politically correct mode ( Bash and blame the Christians )
What's wrong with these commandments?
Thou shall not kill
Honor thy Father and Mother
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife
Thou shalt not steal
7 out of 10 are there to keep order in a society. That's what I'm saying. Use your common sense and see how the commandments would apply. They are guidelines for a more peacefull existence between fellow men and women.
Yes, I read Icke's first book within a year of it's release, and nearly all of them since then.
Shallow, if you say so. Now go wallow. Time to get out the pigpen.
Rather a pigpen than a prison trapped by a god who doesn't exist.
You still have not answered my question, where is you're proof and most importantly of all....... Have you people really not read any of Icke's work... And if you have do you interpret it so it fits you're shallow, needy lives.......
I will reiterate again Icke has said 100% Jesus never existed.. Answer my point ES!!!
oiram
11-12-2007, 12:26 AM
Anyone likes to judge & kill me for my finall Conclusion you are Welcome!
Who ever, what ever would outlaw ore reject the Ten Commandments are clearly Anti God and not any rhetoric will change this
"Period!"
Only Antichrist would be tempted to outlaw Gods Ten Commandments!
I respect all of the comments! Combines all rejection, exception, basic moral reality and arguments!
In this post I only had two specific words Ten Commandments & God even so I don't like the book much but all the books say God give them to Moses and Jesus wasn't even born!
No Jesus no Christians no Religion and no books!
If I am correct Moses received the Ten Commandments before Jesus was born & Christianity started there profitable business! Just look at the vatican.
The good part on the Ten Commandments is most religion don't argue the 10 rules.
Also yes if you a normal person with basic morals you automatically live your life by this rules!
That is my point nothing wrong with the Ten Commandments! But with all this different books I am not happy at all and yes they do create most of all problems!
Actually when it comes to the book I have a sort of proof and could be compared to the American constitution; it gets updated all the time to suit some one! I just can’t proof if Bush had some relations present at the time!
optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 12:43 AM
I respect all of the comments! But with all this different books I am not happy at all and yes they do create most of the problems!
Getting much better oriam..
Eternel spirit still refuses though to answer my question about Icke refuting Jesus' existence!!!!!!!!
Have you gone to sleep ES...If so, I will deifinetly wait for your response... If not let's hear it..
David Icke and Jesus are truly incompatible......... So which one are you ES Icke or Jesus.. Though Icke is not God and never claims to be, Icke has shown that Jesus never set foot on earth... Come on ES which one the choice is yours........
eternal_spirit
11-12-2007, 12:50 AM
Rather a pigpen than a prison trapped by a god who doesn't exist.
You still have not answered my question, where is you're proof and most importantly of all....... Have you people really not read any of Icke's work... And if you have do you interpret it so it fits you're shallow, needy lives.......
I will reiterate again Icke has said 100% Jesus never existed.. Answer my point ES!!!
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I never claimed God exists. I'm one of the least brainwashed people I know. I have broken through most of the programming. And if you want to go ten pages to argue about the Bible religion etc you've got the wrong man. I dont FOLLOW any religion.
I've researched many of the religious books, and I think you'll find our views are similar. I think people would be better off with out any religions.
I'm well aware of Icke's theories about Jesus. And heard the other side of the argument, that Jesus was a man. Truth is we'll never know if either version is true, there's no definate proof either way. But I dont believe he was the son of any God.
on the road
11-12-2007, 01:22 AM
What a mad twat!!!!!!!
Excellently put.:D
optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 01:24 AM
I'm well aware of Icke's theories about Jesus. And heard the other side of the argument, that Jesus was a man. Truth is we'll never know if either version is true, there's no definate proof either way. But I dont believe he was the son of any God.
there's no definate proof either way.
You have just answered my point and I thank you..
WE, yes WE, have NO, that's NO PROOF either way. So what the fuck are people looking to lay there eggs of salvation in ANY basket for??????????
Because they are needy?? Missing something??? Irrelevant in the whole scheme of things??? and on, and on.......
I'm not looking for proof against it, if I'm going to believe in anything ES. I'm looking for proof for it.. And as YOU have quite rightly pointed out there is no proof for Jesus.. NO DEBATEABLE, EVIDENCED HARD 100% FACTUAL, INDISPUTABLE FACT. No, not even one.
Many thanks for your corroboration on this point ES..
Kind regards, OP
optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 01:25 AM
Excellently put.:D
10 : 4 gud buddy!!!!!!! How's it hangin'... long and large and to the left let's hope!!!!!!!!
on the road
11-12-2007, 01:47 AM
10 : 4 gud buddy!!!!!!! How's it hangin'... long and large and to the left let's hope!!!!!!!!
10 fuckin 4 skip ! dude ,its dark your wearing sunglasses,youve got a full head of steam and youve just reached RAMMING SPEED.
YOUR ON A MISSION..
YOUR ON A MISSION FROM PIGPOT!
its time to RAM the wankbots*
RUBBER DUCK STYLE
wankbots* warning can vary.
optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 03:24 AM
10 fuckin 4 skip ! dude ,its dark your wearing sunglasses,youve got a full head of steam and youve just reached RAMMING SPEED.
YOUR ON A MISSION..
YOUR ON A MISSION FROM PIGPOT!
its time to RAM the wankbots*
RUBBER DUCK STYLE
wankbots* warning can vary.
We got a mother fuckin' convoy here especially on this thread. The new smokies handle seems to be something like oiram. So agreed top man. It's time to can the can and ram the ram Quatro style.......
Lead the way ontheroad........ as always you crazy ass son of a gun
MY MOOD YEEEEEEEHHAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!
YOUR MOOD FUUUCCCCKKINNNNNYEEEHHHAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!
Agreed wankbots can vary.......
No body is going to kill you or murder you for reminding us about the 10 commandments.you have the right to speak and everyone here respects other individuals uniqueness and right to speech......unless its not been imposed on them and hey why only 10 commandments and why not 1 more or 1 less.?
why are there 5 pillars for islam and why not 1 more or less?
on the road
11-12-2007, 01:24 PM
WTF exactly happens if you dont live your life by these commandie things?
Its true that its nice to be nice and we should all be nice loving dudes and birds BUT if your not what will happen hell wise? I mean where the fuck do you think gods gunna send you if you aint scored that well in your commandies ?? hell ? iraq ? scotland ? litter picking? Im on love mode and nobodys sending me anywhere ,especially scotland ;):)
drael
11-12-2007, 02:22 PM
If i dont follow these commandments im guessing....nothing will particularly interesting will happen.. maybe karma!?
I think we are past scaring non-christians with the somewhat funny idea of hell! (worked in pagan times, really quite an weird tactic in the age of atheism/global religious diveristy and science - i mean whos gonna buy that now apart from the extremely fearful/paranoid?).
I guessed you missed that whole "love thy neighbour as thyself"/jesus thing.. just keep on with the burning in hell thing, i find it charmingly old school..... :D
celtic isis
11-12-2007, 05:34 PM
wasn't it jesus who came back one time and replaced all the ten commandments (manmade) with just one:
Do onto others as you would like them to do onto you.
I was reading icke's new book last night, and well this is what icke said too in his own way.
Icke doesn't really say/deny jesus ever existed, jesus probably did exist, he was a wiseman, a truthknower who came to earth to help humanity or he never did exist and is simply symbolism...i don't know and well it doesn't matter cause that line up there, if we all lived by that what a wonderful world it would be.
icke's line is much funnier though! but i can't really spoil it by quoting it here, or can i?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWEBbFwU1o&feature=related
this is the definative word. WORD :D
optimus pigpot
11-12-2007, 10:00 PM
wasn't it jesus who came back one time and replaced all the ten commandments (manmade) with just one:
Do onto others as you would like them to do onto you.
I was reading icke's new book last night, and well this is what icke said too in his own way.
Icke doesn't really say/deny jesus ever existed, jesus probably did exist, he was a wiseman, a truthknower who came to earth to help humanity or he never did exist and is simply symbolism...i don't know and well it doesn't matter cause that line up there, if we all lived by that what a wonderful world it would be.
icke's line is much funnier though! but i can't really spoil it by quoting it here, or can i?
Absolute SHIT!!!
Quoted from The Biggest Secret, Page 102, line 22 and 23. "There is no credible evidence whatsoever for the existence of Jesus........" From here, Icke continues speak more to back up his claims..
CELTIC ISIS I BRAND YOU A LIAR, FRAUD AND DISINFO AGENT who has never read any of DAVID ICKES work.......
You are full of shit and I've just proved you and all the JESUS lovers wrong..
PLAIN WRONG!!!!
octopusrex
12-12-2007, 06:29 PM
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Crap eh lol? I think I explained it better than you.
You're just in politically correct mode ( Bash and blame the Christians )
What's wrong with these commandments?
Thou shall not kill
Honor thy Father and Mother
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife
Thou shalt not steal
7 out of 10 are there to keep order in a society. That's what I'm saying. Use your common sense and see how the commandments would apply. They are guidelines for a more peacefull existence between fellow men and women.
Yes, I read Icke's first book within a year of it's release, and nearly all of them since then.
Shallow, if you say so. Now go wallow. Time to get out the pigpen.
Haff to agree there.. but lets dig deeper here:
1. covet neighbor's wife and adultery.. same thing.. should be able to turn into one.
2. The killing thing... well... what about war? what about self-defense?
3. covetin' the house.. what about when thy neighbors owns most of the land you live in, like the whole Irish Poptato famine thinngie?
if we lived in a just world, these would be perfect rules to keep the peace.. but we don't. The adultery thing... that by itself would keep most folks outta heaven. And the murder thing.. well, there's a war on, you know?