hagbard_celine
07-03-2007, 12:35 AM
How many of you have read that atrocious article in Popular Mechanics supposedly disproving that 9/11 was an inside job? It was a crock of shit, to be polite, and exposing it as such is easier than you might think.
Popular Mechanics told at least one deliberate lie in their 9/11 article (Maybe this is because it was sponsored by Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security). They claimed it took 1 hour and 22 minutes for NORAD to locate Payne Stewart's jet. They may well have got this figure from ABC News... the thing is that ABC News said that it took 22 minutes, so I don't know whare PM got the extra 1 hour from.
What's more 22 minutes actually fits perfectly if you do a little experiment: All you ned is Microsoft Flight Simulator. I recreated Payne Stewart's last flight using the same aircraft at the same time of year over the same route. I took off from Orlando and headed for Dallas using proper skylanes. To cause the crew to become debilitated so quickly, the decompression must have taken place at at least half the Learjet's 51,000 foot service ceiling; this occured 23 minutes after taking off from Orlando when the plane was over northern Florida. Then I just left the autopilot on and followed my nose at cruising speed, which is what happened during the real incident.
According to the ABC News report of the incident, fighters were scrambled from Elgin and Tyndall AFB in Florida to intercept the Learjet after air traffic control had alerted NORAD. These were then relieved on station by the Air National Guard out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. They follwed the aircraft until it ran out of fuel and crashed in North Dakota.
Remember, the PM article says it took NORAD 1 hour 22 minutes to locate Payne Stewart's Learjet, I found in my experiment that 1 hour 22 minutes after the earliest time for the decompression, my aircraft was flying over Arkensas, not far from Tulsa itself, where the USAF fighters were relieved on station. This is the problem: the language of the report suggests that the fighters from Florida had already been in contact with the Learjet for some considerable time when the Tulsa aircraft took over. If we add this to PM, it suggests that by the time the Tulsa aircraft were deployed, the Florida fighters had only just found the Learjet. And I'm not taking into account the time it took air traffic control to realize what had happened, react and contact NORAD, and then for NORAD to tell the USAF to scramble. By the article's own words not all NORAD alerts progress to a scramble.
Popular Mechanics told at least one deliberate lie in their 9/11 article (Maybe this is because it was sponsored by Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security). They claimed it took 1 hour and 22 minutes for NORAD to locate Payne Stewart's jet. They may well have got this figure from ABC News... the thing is that ABC News said that it took 22 minutes, so I don't know whare PM got the extra 1 hour from.
What's more 22 minutes actually fits perfectly if you do a little experiment: All you ned is Microsoft Flight Simulator. I recreated Payne Stewart's last flight using the same aircraft at the same time of year over the same route. I took off from Orlando and headed for Dallas using proper skylanes. To cause the crew to become debilitated so quickly, the decompression must have taken place at at least half the Learjet's 51,000 foot service ceiling; this occured 23 minutes after taking off from Orlando when the plane was over northern Florida. Then I just left the autopilot on and followed my nose at cruising speed, which is what happened during the real incident.
According to the ABC News report of the incident, fighters were scrambled from Elgin and Tyndall AFB in Florida to intercept the Learjet after air traffic control had alerted NORAD. These were then relieved on station by the Air National Guard out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. They follwed the aircraft until it ran out of fuel and crashed in North Dakota.
Remember, the PM article says it took NORAD 1 hour 22 minutes to locate Payne Stewart's Learjet, I found in my experiment that 1 hour 22 minutes after the earliest time for the decompression, my aircraft was flying over Arkensas, not far from Tulsa itself, where the USAF fighters were relieved on station. This is the problem: the language of the report suggests that the fighters from Florida had already been in contact with the Learjet for some considerable time when the Tulsa aircraft took over. If we add this to PM, it suggests that by the time the Tulsa aircraft were deployed, the Florida fighters had only just found the Learjet. And I'm not taking into account the time it took air traffic control to realize what had happened, react and contact NORAD, and then for NORAD to tell the USAF to scramble. By the article's own words not all NORAD alerts progress to a scramble.