View Full Version : Idea! Please read this! Lets Be The Change!
Inspired by Kings thread i too came to conclusion that this old dog called the conspiracy has been chasing his own tail for a long long while - why nothing changes? well first thing our numbers are very low, and you can't have change if you are in a minority - face it we need to spread out knowledge and expect nothing in return.
let's look at it rationaly where would che guevara be if he wrote a book filled with wonderous information on injustice of the system and expect things to change while making money? I don't know where but one thing is sure - the revolution would not happen!!! This just diminishes this whole subject makes me think that leading con researchers don't wanna wake people but just to earn a fortune - face it you can name the leading researchers on the fingers of one hand! I mean thank them very much but maybe it's time to take on a different approach, and here is what i suggest:
1. make 2 cds filled with info, concentrate on the now - so what is happening now in the world and why, give info on world leaders, banking, fluoride, chemtrails, common purpose, everything you think is important for the person who never came into contact with any of this, but still it should be easy understandable and easy to check as a fact!! Adjust it on your own country so it would reflect state of mind where you live!
2. give it to 2 persons, someone close - friend or family, someone who you know and who wouldn't consider you a nutter, say it is urgent for him/her to find out what is really happening, offer more info later if they are interested and your help in the matter.
3.Make them promise(!!!) that they would copy the cd and each of them would give it to 2 friends, or someone close to them, and than make the same request from them etc.
Now what does this do? ..well firstly the info you're giving is given free, and out of love, so you can expect less scepticism, almost an activism forming here, you are giving it not to a stranger but to someone who considers you reliable, and we are using a binary formula!!! :)
A binary formula whats that you ask, for you that don't know here's an explenation:
2*2=4*2=8*2=16*2=32*2=64*2=128*2=256*2=512*2=1024* 2=2048*2=4096
4096*2=8192*2=16384*2=32768*2=65536*2=131072*2=262 144*2=524288
..yes half a million people in 18 steps, mil in 19, 2mill in 20 etc. lets spread the info like a forrest fire, i've already stared what are you waiting, just do it! and report here to say you did it, what do you think?! please encourage this idea, lets make a change, be the change! Thank you very much!
Inspired by Kings thread i too came to conclusion that this old dog called the conspiracy has been chasing his own tail for a long long while - why nothing changes? well first thing our numbers are very low, and you can't have change if you are in a minority - face it we need to spread out knowledge and expect nothing in return.
let's look at it rationaly where would che guevara be if he wrote a book filled with wonderous information on injustice of the system and expect things to change while making money? I don't know where but one thing is sure - the revolution would not happen!!! This just diminishes this whole subject makes me think that leading con researchers don't wanna wake people but just to earn a fortune - face it you can name the leading researchers on the fingers of one hand! I mean thank them very much but maybe it's time to take on a different approach, and here is what i suggest:
1. make 2 cds filled with info, concentrate on the now - so what is happening now in the world and why, give info on world leaders, banking, fluoride, chemtrails, common purpose, everything you think is important for the person who never came into contact with any of this, but still it should be easy understandable and easy to check as a fact!! Adjust it on your own country so it would reflect state of mind where you live!
2. give it to 2 persons, someone close - friend or family, someone who you know and who wouldn't consider you a nutter, say it is urgent for him/her to find out what is really happening, offer more info later if they are interested and your help in the matter.
3.Make them promise(!!!) that they would copy the cd and each of them would give it to 2 friends, or someone close to them, and than make the same request from them etc.
Now what does this do? ..well firstly the info you're giving is given free, and out of love, so you can expect less scepticism, almost an activism forming here, you are giving it not to a stranger but to someone who considers you reliable, and we are using a binary formula!!! :)
A binary formula whats that you ask, for you that don't know here's an explenation:
2*2=4*2=8*2=16*2=32*2=64*2=128*2=256*2=512*2=1024* 2=2048*2=4096
4096*2=8192*2=16384*2=32768*2=65536*2=131072*2=262 144*2=524288
..yes half a million people in 18 steps, mil in 19, 2mill in 20 etc. lets spread the info like a forrest fire, i've already stared what are you waiting, just do it! and report here to say you did it, what do you think?! please encourage this idea, lets make a change, be the change! Thank you very much!
great idea bro!
soglad
06-12-2007, 04:57 AM
Yeah, 'tis great and all but I'm afriad here's a strong dose of reality for you Irak.....
SOME PEOPLE DON'T CARE.
Honestly, they don't give a fuck. I've shown people this info and let them research everything to the point where it's obvious there's a conspiracy, and they just don't care, they'd happily plod along and keep watching TV, doing a 9-5 for a corrupt company, be hypocritical alcoholics with no intention to "be the change". The way I see it, it's each unto their own, if they want to plod along, let them reap what they sow, we all have personal choices we can make, remember, we're not here to change what people think! That's the last thing we want to do! That's nazi talk right there!!
They know what's right and wrong, they CHOOSE the TV and 9-5, that's fine, let them reap what the sow!
gordonfreeman
06-12-2007, 05:14 AM
Humans don't fucking care about it! Because they fear change and they know most of it is bullshit. The human sheeps don't want their favorite things on TV like anime, adult humor, comedy, action, drama, MTV, G4 channel, Family Guy, The Simpsons, movies, music shows, reality shows, all the mainstream media crap that they enjoy to watch! Fuck that shit, most people I know don't read novels as much, but they don't read books anymore, real books!!! Not like MANGA! Excuse me, I take that back, but it's true.
Makes me want to scare the shit out of them.
woghd
06-12-2007, 05:16 AM
Yeah, 'tis great and all but I'm afriad here's a strong dose of reality for you Irak.....
SOME PEOPLE DON'T CARE.
Honestly, they don't give a fuck. I've shown people this info and let them research everything to the point where it's obvious there's a conspiracy, and they just don't care, they'd happily plod along and keep watching TV, doing a 9-5 for a corrupt company, be hypocritical alcoholics with no intention to "be the change". The way I see it, it's each unto their own, if they want to plod along, let them reap what they sow, we all have personal choices we can make, remember, we're not here to change what people think! That's the last thing we want to do! That's nazi talk right there!!
They know what's right and wrong, they CHOOSE the TV and 9-5, that's fine, let them reap what the sow!
That is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO true Soglad. Once people are wired in like that, it's game over. A UFO could land on their head, and a team of greys could pull them inside kicking and screaming and do a few hours of anal probing with no KY jelly, and they still wouldn't believe in alien life! They'd convince themself that it was a hallucination or something. Same goes if somebody did a full shapeshift, grabbed their infant from their arms and gobbled it down. Same goes for if they wandered into bohemian grove and heard a conversation between well known political figures detailing how they faked 911.
None of it would matter. They are incapable of expanding their minds. They are too far gone.
Archangel
soglad
06-12-2007, 05:21 AM
seeds+ planting = ???
Seeds + planting + DEAD SOIL = NOTHING
;)
cruise4
06-12-2007, 11:45 AM
"1. make 2 cds filled with info, concentrate on the now - so what is happening now in the world and why, give info on world leaders, banking, fluoride, chemtrails, common purpose, everything you think is important for the person who never came into contact with any of this, but still it should be easy understandable and easy to check as a fact!! Adjust it on your own country so it would reflect state of mind where you live!"
Are you seriously telling me you haven't been doing this as a matter of course? Soglad is also right. Its a thankless task. However... it does work now and again and 'seeds' do grow, and the oppositions actions only raise awareness even more. This will increase as time goes on.
You should be leafletting, DVD dropping, Bridge and road advertising, writing on envelopes, using sigs in emails, mailing your MP, mailing your local newspapers and anything else you can think of.
Within 3 days of finding out this info... I'd started. I can't believe it.
freedomiswithinyou
06-12-2007, 11:58 AM
I've had people who believe what i say and they go "The system is the system, we can't do anything about it, so carry on". I have no fucking idea why they want to be a slave!
Yeah, 'tis great and all but I'm afriad here's a strong dose of reality for you Irak.....
SOME PEOPLE DON'T CARE.
Honestly, they don't give a fuck. I've shown people this info and let them research everything to the point where it's obvious there's a conspiracy, and they just don't care, they'd happily plod along and keep watching TV, doing a 9-5 for a corrupt company, be hypocritical alcoholics with no intention to "be the change". The way I see it, it's each unto their own, if they want to plod along, let them reap what they sow, we all have personal choices we can make, remember, we're not here to change what people think! That's the last thing we want to do! That's nazi talk right there!!
They know what's right and wrong, they CHOOSE the TV and 9-5, that's fine, let them reap what the sow!
I'm not trying to change what people think - people can think what they want, i wanna give them free info, so they can form their own opinions.
"we're not here to change what people think! That's the last thing we want to do! That's nazi talk right there!!" -- what???????? !!!!!!!! ??????
..are you calling me a nazi because i wanna give people free info? guess what - david icke made me change what i thought as he did with A LOT OF PEOPLE so i guess we should call him Furer! ..and the last thing i wanna do is to do nothing..
"Honestly, they don't give a fuck!"
I don't give a fuck if they don't give a fuck only thing i give a fuck is them copying that cd and sending it on.. eventually someone will be reached that will give a fuck, i wanna give people options for them to give a fuck or to not give a fuck.. that is the question :)
..now soglad you dissapointed me, how so much negativity from someone like you.
That is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO true Soglad. Once people are wired in like that, it's game over. A UFO could land on their head, and a team of greys could pull them inside kicking and screaming and do a few hours of anal probing with no KY jelly, and they still wouldn't believe in alien life! They'd convince themself that it was a hallucination or something. Same goes if somebody did a full shapeshift, grabbed their infant from their arms and gobbled it down. Same goes for if they wandered into bohemian grove and heard a conversation between well known political figures detailing how they faked 911.
None of it would matter. They are incapable of expanding their minds. They are too far gone.
Archangel
For your information more people belive in UFO-s than in heaven and hell - and thats a FACT!!! - check it out!
Your post is just plain STOOPID and DEFEATIST - there i said it!
"None of it would matter. They are incapable of expanding their minds. They are too far gone."
-- no man you're too far gone with your colorfull allegories that make no sense.
Humans don't fucking care about it! Because they fear change and they know most of it is bullshit. The human sheeps don't want their favorite things on TV like anime, adult humor, comedy, action, drama, MTV, G4 channel, Family Guy, The Simpsons, movies, music shows, reality shows, all the mainstream media crap that they enjoy to watch! Fuck that shit, most people I know don't read novels as much, but they don't read books anymore, real books!!! Not like MANGA! Excuse me, I take that back, but it's true.
Makes me want to scare the shit out of them.
Oh they don't care abbout financial breakdown, or poisoning in chemtrails, or war
and death, or corruption.. use those topics they do care about like fishing attach catchy bait to a hook and swing away
"The human sheeps don't want their favorite things on TV like anime, adult humor, comedy, action, drama, MTV, G4 channel, Family Guy, The Simpsons, movies, music shows, reality shows, all the mainstream media crap that they enjoy to watch!" --? O.K.
..about reading - who said anything about reading - put a video on the cd's
..so scare them - i was scared while i was reading icke so what i got over it, because things that happen out there are scary..
Seeds + planting + DEAD SOIL = NOTHING
;) wow first a nazi now a dead soil = dead people - you scare me soglad.. :) look on the bright side of life - and stay there
soglad
06-12-2007, 12:51 PM
Trust me, I know what I'm talking about, I don't mean to bring y'all down, but some people, in short, are fucked, and don't care to change, hence I say "dead soil". Honestly, you'll meet these people some day.
Look on the bright side? Mate, I'm ON the brightside.
"1. make 2 cds filled with info, concentrate on the now - so what is happening now in the world and why, give info on world leaders, banking, fluoride, chemtrails, common purpose, everything you think is important for the person who never came into contact with any of this, but still it should be easy understandable and easy to check as a fact!! Adjust it on your own country so it would reflect state of mind where you live!"
Are you seriously telling me you haven't been doing this as a matter of course? Soglad is also right. Its a thankless task. However... it does work now and again and 'seeds' do grow, and the oppositions actions only raise awareness even more. This will increase as time goes on.
You should be leafletting, DVD dropping, Bridge and road advertising, writing on envelopes, using sigs in emails, mailing your MP, mailing your local newspapers and anything else you can think of.
Within 3 days of finding out this info... I'd started. I can't believe it.
..yes yes yes - but you se the beauty of binary system aka pyramid scheam is
rapid increase of flow of info - that's why for example microsoft uses this method of distribution to SELL their peace of shit vista or why thousands of internet marketing companies use it - because it works, and if it works and people actually pay for that shit, look at magic-gold.com ..then it will work on relevant interesting easy to check info!
Trust me, I know what I'm talking about, I don't mean to bring y'all down, but some people, in short, are fucked, and don't care to change, hence I say "dead soil". Honestly, you'll meet these people some day.
Look on the bright side? Mate, I'm ON the brightside.
..ok i can accept your explanation - but i didn't say give the cd's to fucked "dead soil" people - i said start with people that have trust in you and are close to you - of course some dead beat stranger isn't going to listen to you - but he will listen to someone close to him.. trust me i worked in marketing
soglad
06-12-2007, 01:01 PM
..ok i can accept your explanation - but i didn't say give the cd's to fucked "dead soil" people - i said start with people that have trust in you and are close to you - of course some dead beat stranger isn't going to listen to you - but he will listen to someone close to him.. trust me i worked in marketing
Yes, that's true, and I have done this, but some people really close to me still don't want to change, but I wish you all the luck.
I've had people who believe what i say and they go "The system is the system, we can't do anything about it, so carry on". I have no fucking idea why they want to be a slave!
they don't wan't to be slaves, nobody want to be a slave - they just know no alternative, as individuals we can achive nothing, systems come and go, democracy, autocracy, feudalism, comunism bla bla bla ..But maybe we will be able to reach someone who can offer alternative, who can offer solutions, who will be interested and have ideas, who will rally the troops so to say.. offer your 2 cents to the world and expect nothing..
Yes, that's true, and I have done this, but some people really close to me still don't want to change, but I wish you all the luck.
that's their choice 2 persons close to you is all you need.. thank you on good wishes mate..
kweli
06-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Yeah, 'tis great and all but I'm afriad here's a strong dose of reality for you Irak.....
SOME PEOPLE DON'T CARE.
Honestly, they don't give a fuck. I've shown people this info and let them research everything to the point where it's obvious there's a conspiracy, and they just don't care, they'd happily plod along and keep watching TV, doing a 9-5 for a corrupt company, be hypocritical alcoholics with no intention to "be the change". The way I see it, it's each unto their own, if they want to plod along, let them reap what they sow, we all have personal choices we can make, remember, we're not here to change what people think! That's the last thing we want to do! That's nazi talk right there!!
They know what's right and wrong, they CHOOSE the TV and 9-5, that's fine, let them reap what the sow!
YES, BUT SOME DO!
I've been fortunate enought to witness quite a few people waking up around me. We simply can't be defeatist about this; yes, it's difficult at times, but who said it would be easy?
Who's actually showing us the way? most 'researchers' tell us to sit back and wait, where's that got us up to now? Most of us feel the rapid changes and can imagine what life is going to be like in the next year or two, but we still sit back and wait.
WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION, NOW! Before it's too late.
baron von lotsov
06-12-2007, 02:02 PM
1. make 2 cds filled with info!
That would be a good idea if the info was good but I'm starting to give up on this place. Most here peddle disinfo. Most do not understand anything except at the most superficial of levels and so it is hopeless. I have got a lot further on other forums. You want to know what problem No. 1 is? It is education and general intelligence. Most on here have never had any kind of heavy-duty mental challenges to cope with. It's like joining the army with a huge couch potato beer gut and expecting to run a twelve-mile course. It can't be done. The mental fitness is not there. Every time I try and push you people to think you ignore my posts. I tried it yesterday and it was just so frustrating. I have much better luck on Ch 4 forum with a discussion about WW2. So I'll have to leave this place to rot. I don't expect many of you to be any use at all when things get tough. It's not as if I have not tried.
Indeed the same thing has happened with the green people I once knew, they are all off to London to protest for the Illuminati's NWO. That's the sort of thing you people on here will be doing one day. They don't set these cults up without a good reason. Tsarion, Sitchin, Maxwell etc.
That would be a good idea if the info was good but I'm starting to give up on this place. Most here peddle disinfo. Most do not understand anything except at the most superficial of levels and so it is hopeless. I have got a lot further on other forums. You want to know what problem No. 1 is? It is education and general intelligence. Most on here have never had any kind of heavy-duty mental challenges to cope with. It's like joining the army with a huge couch potato beer gut and expecting to run a twelve-mile course. It can't be done. The mental fitness is not there. Every time I try and push you people to think you ignore my posts. I tried it yesterday and it was just so frustrating. I have much better luck on Ch 4 forum with a discussion about WW2. So I'll have to leave this place to rot. I don't expect many of you to be any use at all when things get tough. It's not as if I have not tried.
Indeed the same thing has happened with the green people I once knew, they are all off to London to protest for the Illuminati's NWO. That's the sort of thing you people on here will be doing one day. They don't set these cults up without a good reason. Tsarion, Sitchin, Maxwell etc.
yes baron i agree with you, there is no point in "margaritas ante porcos", if you do make a that kind of cd, you wouldn't give it to a catholic priest or a 40 year old construction worker would you? who are we than targeting here? well
the best shot as i see it would be people under 30 that are not happy with the system and can see and feel the injustice but don't know why, and i can't stress it enough that you must know them first hand, because no one would belive a total stranger( fuck forums, fuck cult of personality).. as for the kind of info, i said it already it's up to you to choose, but it should be reliable facts that can be checked and that can make them think and interest them more.. Praemonitus praemunitus.
thank you for your interest!
baron von lotsov
06-12-2007, 03:30 PM
I have been doing this stuff for the last seven years. I estimate my total output on the web must have been read by over a million people now. Indeed ideas that I have are getting into national papers and all sorts so this is probably an under estimate. The more accurate you are the more influential you will be. It's quality and not quantity. Quality will be passed down; we can't compete with quantity since we don't own all the publishing businesses.
On this forum I can flick through the posts and each thread, I'd give it a maximum of 25% correct. So much shit is drowning out the few decent posts people make on here and I do acknowledge there are a few smart people but not enough. No where near enough to make this forum accurate and it has to be accurate. One bit of shit is enough to put people off and so you just get left with people who want to use it as a free chatter site.
cruise4
06-12-2007, 05:39 PM
Just hand them out. There's people that should know better talking absolute garbage on this thread. Might be the weather or something. Forget the MLM pyramid thing Irak. Sounds good but the reality isn't quite how you perceive it. In this case you cannot rely on others taking any notice whatsoever initially.
Passing out information, whether you see results at the time or not, is a positive thing to do. Personally I'll keep doing it until the end.
If anyone needs DVD images/covers PM me.
ichi wa zen
06-12-2007, 07:26 PM
Irak, i really appreciate your effort and think its a great idea. Thank your for actually trying to do something instead of just talking about doing something.
THANK YOU! :D
zero1
06-12-2007, 07:31 PM
"You have to realize, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged, and some are so inured, so hoplessly dependent on the System, that they will fight to protect it" -- Morpheus.