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carlg1212
06-12-2007, 02:38 AM
I don't want to steal Fantana's fantanatastic thunder, but it occurred to me how useful this will be (hopefully).

Relationships can be difficult. This is probably because thousands of years ago, attraction was based on how fit someone was for breeding. This is still a big part of male-female relationships, but we've evolved (or devolved, depending on how you look at it) to the point where men & women can grow together emotionally & mentally. Have you ever read your partner's thoughts? That's freaky.

Relationships fail because usually the man screws up. If you keep your woman happy, you'll be happy. I'm not saying it's right, wrong or indifferent, it just is. Take it from me. I've done everything wrong the last few years.

As you know, women drop hints all the time. You have to be listening for them, instead of wondering what she looks like naked or staring at her boobs all the time. It's ok to think about that, but listen to what she says (because women talk a lot, they drop lots of hints).

The trick is, you need to record what she's saying. Not with a tape recorder, because then you'll have to listen to her talk about the same thing twice, and you might start to read everything she says as a double entendre, which may drive you insane. It's a woman's secret defense. Don't do it...but if you do, let me know how it works out.

Instead, remember what she says, make mental notes, and when you get home, open a Word or Excel file and type in things that interest her. She dropped the hint about her favorite restaurant? Type it in. Favorite shoe store? Type it in. Favorite chocolate? Favorite movie? Type it in. You may be overwhelmed at first, but it's easy. You can't possibly remember everything; that's her job. Women are 100 times smarter than men. You should know that by now. Your next date, be sure to take a minute to read your notes, and come prepared with something on the list. She'll be so impressed, she'll turn on the love, and you know what that means.

Normally, I'd sell my tried-and-true method for US$4,000,000 (that's only 10 quid), but you can have it for free. Thank me later. ;)

cleft_asunder
06-12-2007, 02:50 AM
Brilliant!

Genius!

The only guide you will ever need.

carlg1212
06-12-2007, 03:02 AM
Brilliant!

Genius!

The only guide you will ever need.

Thank you! Believe me, if I only listened to what women have told me in the past, I wouldn't have made so many mistakes then wondered why I screwed up. Writing it down helps.

baron von lotsov
06-12-2007, 01:44 PM
Women are 100 times smarter than men.

No they are not. I have never met one who has been and I purposefully look for the smart women because nothing pisses me off more than a dumb blond.

Most I have met have been on the verge of mental illness and full of mind control, even though I do my best to avoid the brainwashed types. So it's the other way around, women need a man's intellect to protect them. Nothing is more of an attraction for a woman than a man who knows his stuff and is fair and kind towards them. If your woman demands stuff the best thing to do is show her the door. A proper woman won't do this and will trust in your judgement and benefit by it. Only homosexuals are attracted by what is known in the PC dictionary as a 'strong woman', especially one who has undergone 'assertiveness training'. This is what you have been on the receiving end of. So sort it out, it is not your fault. They have been brainwashed.

supertzar
06-12-2007, 02:01 PM
When I am dating the women I never make concessions such as this. I simply grab the women by the hair, drag them to the cave and make them wash my feet and things like that. That is how I date the women.

chinchilla
06-12-2007, 02:38 PM
Wow Carl. Without sounding too mean here I'd just like to say that was the biggest piece of crap I've read in area of "dating". I really do think you don't get it, at all.


I'm not arguing that listening to women is wrong, but it it surely nowhere near a way of a successful relationship, you could know EVERYTHING she said and know her favorite things etc and she will still say "You never listen to me" you know why? Because you don't get it, you don't understand what they want.


Women don't need fancy items that give instant gratification, they just want them. If you don't give them to them, they apprieciate it more than if you gave her everything "Oh lets go to her favorite restaurant, every day!" is what a wussy would do.


On the topic of how our brains evolved for replication, our brains still currently think we are running around 100,000 years ago in groups of 50~100 people. This is why we have the fear of rejection. Since being socially rejected in them days would most certainly equal death. Social rejection is linked in the brain to the pain receptors and being socially rejected is as bad as a poke in the eye in a pain rating. Women want a real man. A real man has these qualities:


Leadership
Confidence
Lack of insecurity
Dominance (doesn't mean dominant)
Control (Does mean controlling)
Selfishness of a special kind (Putting yourself first before helping others)
Composure
Judgmental
Picky attitude
Not accepting 2nd class
Territorial



With those qualities a man could get away with beating a woman up daily and she would still "love" him. Do not ever abuse the status of being a man to abuse or to manipulate women, ever.


[Edit] Women are not more intelligent than men, they just have the ability to handle more than one task at once and they have higher social intelligence because they use more areas of the brain to decode communication that men. For actual intelligence men and women are the same. Women tend to do more better in schools because they are conditioned this way.

blue
06-12-2007, 02:49 PM
relationships are not like investing or banking. if you want a lot, get used to giving more. but it is worth in the end, why? because things like care, love, attention are not like money. if you give them out you don't have less. You have more. and looking at the dating stuff and meeting interesting girls...hmmm....what you need to do most of the times is to understand what type is she, is she the one which demands things, the one who wants to control etc etc...there are different women who want different things. understand her needs and wants (dont assume that they are the same as yours). women are emotional beings. so you need to be a bit emotional type when your'e hanging with them. be funny (not in the sense of telling jokes), be confident and be different.

supertzar
06-12-2007, 02:57 PM
Chinchilla is on the money. Women like a smartass, not a kissass.

chinchilla
06-12-2007, 03:00 PM
relationships are not like investing or banking. if you want a lot, get used to giving more.


Hmm... not sure what you mean here. Giving more what? If you've been involved with women you'll find the more you give her the less she gives you and the less you give her the more she gives you.


but it is worth in the end, why? because things like care, love, attention are not like money. if you give them out you don't have less. You have more.


These are true in close relationships/friendships but with new relationships or "dating" they would be totally incorrect. Love has a maximum life span of 2.5/3 years. After this time you do not love a person, you feel affection. The brain chemicals involved in "love" are PEA's (If I remember correctly) and only linger in the body for that time period. After PEA's have been depleted then either problems will arise or a deeper love will form (affection). So you don't have more back from more you give out.


and looking at the dating stuff and meeting interesting girls...hmmm....what you need to do most of the times is to understand what type is she, is she the one which demands things, the one who wants to control etc etc...there are different women who want different things. understand her needs and wants (dont assume that they are the same as yours). women are emotional beings. so you need to be a bit emotional type when your'e hanging with them. be funny (not in the sense of telling jokes), be confident and be different.

This part I agree with! But not with "types" of women. I see women more on a level of maturity or emotional stability. A emotionally healthy women is a perfect person to spend the rest of your life with if you desire. So instead of types I'd class immature or mature in terms of being able to control and handle themselves in emotional decision making.

Sense of humour is one of the main things women look for in men, may actually be the top most wanted attribute. :p


Chinchilla is on the money. Women like a smartass, not a kissass.

Absolutely! If you can tease (in a funny and not mean way) a woman on her flaws, insecurities or little mannerisms she will have maximum attraction for you, instead of "Wow you're stunning" wussy maneuvers :p

tb303
06-12-2007, 03:32 PM
Don't forget the role of that good ol' law of the jungle juice dopamine.

If you want to get your leg over, research how to trigger it in the opposite sex because it's like an addictive drug.

The trouble is, and coming from a male perspective, most women are so dosed up and mind controlled on reality TV, domestic makeover programs and Sex In The City/Desperate Housewives shit, they don't really know what they want anymore.

Anyway, happy hunting and remember lads, you're only a wank away from not giving 2 hoots about 'em for an hour or so ;)

bigus_dickus
06-12-2007, 03:37 PM
these are instructions of how to pretend to be someone that you are not in order to manipulate someone's mind and get what you want from them.

that's what's gonna happen to you though. ;)

rossus
06-12-2007, 03:58 PM
i'd rather be alone,
than have a women which i have to treat like a princess all the time.

chinchilla
06-12-2007, 04:13 PM
Don't forget the role of that good ol' law of the jungle juice dopamine.

If you want to get your leg over, research how to trigger it in the opposite sex because it's like an addictive drug.



Hmm is it dopamine, I thought that was the main chemical in creativity and serotonin was the addictive feel good one. Not sure though! :p


these are instructions of how to pretend to be someone that you are not in order to manipulate someone's mind and get what you want from them.

that's what's gonna happen to you though. ;)


Or, every man is a dominant entity women want but most men are still boys from their lack of parenting in the area and social conditioning. These instructions and information just simply help the boys move closer to men, as they should be.


If it were manipulation it WOULD not work, women can identify manipulation incredibly easy because of the incongruence of body language and words. Words are only 7% of communication.


i'd rather be alone,
than have a women which i have to treat like a princess all the time.

Or you could be a lover and not a provider, see how you'd like that :p

bigus_dickus
06-12-2007, 08:04 PM
Or, every man is a dominant entity women want but most men are still boys from their lack of parenting in the area and social conditioning. These instructions and information just simply help the boys move closer to men, as they should be.

If it were manipulation it WOULD not work, women can identify manipulation incredibly easy because of the incongruence of body language and words. Words are only 7% of communication.

well, i didn't mean that it is bad manipulating someone if you mean good. but if you do, it will be done to you too. women are not dumb, they understand what you are doing and they are happy that you are trying to manipulate them. then they know that you are qualified to serve and protect them.

it is our nature, the same that dictates you to desire to become one with a woman, one body, mind, soul and manifest love to new life. but if that's not your intention, then you'll become a pet too. it's kinda ironic actually.

ichi wa zen
06-12-2007, 08:27 PM
My guide to dating women:

Step 1: Get this face, L.A. has some good doctors who can help you out

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/dailydish/2006/07/17/ga_dish_pitt200x280.jpg

Step 2: Get this house

http://www.radionetherlands.nl/assets/images/a_Neuschwanstein-castle-200.jpg

Step 3: Get some of this, if you cant get any, join The Illuminati, ive heard they have some

http://www.ezauctions4u.com/images/money-200.jpg

Done, you can now get with all the superficial women out there ;)

lenejento
06-12-2007, 08:52 PM
Both men and women can be very needy in relationships. True love is free, not needing.

cf24
06-12-2007, 09:21 PM
Normally, I'd sell my tried-and-true method for US$4,000,000 (that's only 10 quid), but you can have it for free. Thank me later. ;)

I'd still feel totally mugged....:D

steevo
06-12-2007, 10:00 PM
Some good advice in here....and some bad advice too lol

Here is my advice :-

The Ultimate Compatabily Test

If you fart and she get's genuinely upset about it, then chuck her. She is a nightmare.

If she farts in front of you, MARRY HER!

WARNING NEVER FART IN FRONT OF HER UNTIL YOU HAVE DATED FOR OVER A FORTNIGHT....UNLESS SHE FARTS FIRST! (otherwise it could all backfire)

viginti tres
07-12-2007, 12:09 AM
i'd rather be alone,
than have a women which i have to treat like a princess all the time.

True that.

I'm yet to meet a woman who is not obsessed with materialism, who is emotionally mature and who has a seeking mind and I don't think I ever will.....not being insulting, just telling it how it is.

Power to the Peaceful.

adimon
07-12-2007, 12:38 AM
Relationships fail because usually the man screws up.

Nothing like a good generalisation. Relationships fail because of long-term compatability. I know couples who've drifted apart in some areas of their life, but tell me that their sex life is really good and the thing that keeps them together. Likewise, I know couples who no longer have sex with one another, but who have become very close friends, confidantes and have plenty in common.

If you keep your woman happy, you'll be happy.

Neither life nor love should be about keeping another person happy. That's servitude. It seems to me that relationships that last have two qualities in nearly all cases - trust and common interests.

Women are 100 times smarter than men.

LOL :D

Your next date, be sure to take a minute to read your notes, and come prepared with something on the list. She'll be so impressed, she'll turn on the love, and you know what that means.

Love isn't a computer game with cheat codes. That sounds like bypassing genuine rapport and heading straight for a con.

Some good advice in here....and some bad advice too lol

Here is my advice :-

The Ultimate Compatabily Test

If you fart and she get's genuinely upset about it, then chuck her. She is a nightmare.

If she farts in front of you, MARRY HER!

WARNING NEVER FART IN FRONT OF HER UNTIL YOU HAVE DATED FOR OVER A FORTNIGHT....UNLESS SHE FARTS FIRST! (otherwise it could all backfire)

Steevo that's hilarious. :D

I'll know I'VE met the right girl when she displays genuine concern for my well-being and I can tell she appreciates me for who I am. None of them have done this so far. Farting wouldn't matter to such a person, you are right. :)

carlg1212
07-12-2007, 01:33 AM
No they are not. I have never met one who has been and I purposefully look for the smart women because nothing pisses me off more than a dumb blond.

Most I have met have been on the verge of mental illness and full of mind control, even though I do my best to avoid the brainwashed types. So it's the other way around, women need a man's intellect to protect them. Nothing is more of an attraction for a woman than a man who knows his stuff and is fair and kind towards them. If your woman demands stuff the best thing to do is show her the door. A proper woman won't do this and will trust in your judgement and benefit by it. Only homosexuals are attracted by what is known in the PC dictionary as a 'strong woman', especially one who has undergone 'assertiveness training'. This is what you have been on the receiving end of. So sort it out, it is not your fault. They have been brainwashed.

You sound jaded, but if most women you've met are mentally ill, maybe it's because they just seem that way (unless she's drooling and talking to her invisible friends). Don't be afraid to laugh and say and do whatever you want, whenever you want. She'll love you for it. I promise. Oh, and don't forget to do nice things for her.

carlg1212
07-12-2007, 01:43 AM
Wow Carl. Without sounding too mean here I'd just like to say that was the biggest piece of crap I've read in area of "dating". I really do think you don't get it, at all.

It was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. In my 20's, what mattered was what was between her legs; now, it's what's between her ears.


I'm not arguing that listening to women is wrong, but it it surely nowhere near a way of a successful relationship, you could know EVERYTHING she said and know her favorite things etc and she will still say "You never listen to me" you know why? Because you don't get it, you don't understand what they want.

Oh, I understand exactly what they want. It's the same exact thing men want: appreciation. And good sex. I can't help anyone there. You all are on your own to figure that out.

Women don't need fancy items that give instant gratification, they just want them. If you don't give them to them, they apprieciate it more than if you gave her everything "Oh lets go to her favorite restaurant, every day!" is what a wussy would do.

No, but a little freakin' gift is nice once in a while, ya cheapskate. Also, it gets you much lovin'. Take it from me.


On the topic of how our brains evolved for replication, our brains still currently think we are running around 100,000 years ago in groups of 50~100 people. This is why we have the fear of rejection. Since being socially rejected in them days would most certainly equal death. Social rejection is linked in the brain to the pain receptors and being socially rejected is as bad as a poke in the eye in a pain rating.

If a woman causes you pain, that's a subconscious signal to not be with her. Aren't brains great?

Women want a real man.

A real man has these qualities:


Leadership
Confidence
Lack of insecurity
Dominance (doesn't mean dominant)
Control (Does mean controlling)
Selfishness of a special kind (Putting yourself first before helping others)
Composure
Judgmental
Picky attitude
Not accepting 2nd class
Territorial



With those qualities a man could get away with beating a woman up daily and she would still "love" him. Do not ever abuse the status of being a man to abuse or to manipulate women, ever.

Women that let men beat them up were most likely abused as children.

The things you list make up your personality. Listening is not a personality trait. It's a skill.

[Edit] Women are not more intelligent than men, they just have the ability to handle more than one task at once and they have higher social intelligence because they use more areas of the brain to decode communication that men. For actual intelligence men and women are the same. Women tend to do more better in schools because they are conditioned this way.

You failed school, didn't you?

carlg1212
07-12-2007, 01:44 AM
relationships are not like investing or banking. if you want a lot, get used to giving more. but it is worth in the end, why? because things like care, love, attention are not like money. if you give them out you don't have less. You have more. and looking at the dating stuff and meeting interesting girls...hmmm....what you need to do most of the times is to understand what type is she, is she the one which demands things, the one who wants to control etc etc...there are different women who want different things. understand her needs and wants (dont assume that they are the same as yours). women are emotional beings. so you need to be a bit emotional type when your'e hanging with them. be funny (not in the sense of telling jokes), be confident and be different.

I agree.

carlg1212
07-12-2007, 01:46 AM
these are instructions of how to pretend to be someone that you are not in order to manipulate someone's mind and get what you want from them.

that's what's gonna happen to you though. ;)

How would listening to women do that?

carlg1212
07-12-2007, 01:47 AM
I'd still feel totally mugged....:D

For you, 5 quid. I accept cash.

carlg1212
07-12-2007, 01:48 AM
Some good advice in here....and some bad advice too lol

Here is my advice :-

The Ultimate Compatabily Test

If you fart and she get's genuinely upset about it, then chuck her. She is a nightmare.

If she farts in front of you, MARRY HER!

WARNING NEVER FART IN FRONT OF HER UNTIL YOU HAVE DATED FOR OVER A FORTNIGHT....UNLESS SHE FARTS FIRST! (otherwise it could all backfire)

There is a lot of truth in that. You are smart.

tim the enchanter
07-12-2007, 02:20 AM
I don't want to steal Fantana's fantanatastic thunder, but it occurred to me how useful this will be (hopefully).

Relationships can be difficult. This is probably because thousands of years ago, attraction was based on how fit someone was for breeding. This is still a big part of male-female relationships, but we've evolved (or devolved, depending on how you look at it) to the point where men & women can grow together emotionally & mentally. Have you ever read your partner's thoughts? That's freaky.

Relationships fail because usually the man screws up. If you keep your woman happy, you'll be happy. I'm not saying it's right, wrong or indifferent, it just is. Take it from me. I've done everything wrong the last few years.

As you know, women drop hints all the time. You have to be listening for them, instead of wondering what she looks like naked or staring at her boobs all the time. It's ok to think about that, but listen to what she says (because women talk a lot, they drop lots of hints).

The trick is, you need to record what she's saying. Not with a tape recorder, because then you'll have to listen to her talk about the same thing twice, and you might start to read everything she says as a double entendre, which may drive you insane. It's a woman's secret defense. Don't do it...but if you do, let me know how it works out.

Instead, remember what she says, make mental notes, and when you get home, open a Word or Excel file and type in things that interest her. She dropped the hint about her favorite restaurant? Type it in. Favorite shoe store? Type it in. Favorite chocolate? Favorite movie? Type it in. You may be overwhelmed at first, but it's easy. You can't possibly remember everything; that's her job. Women are 100 times smarter than men. You should know that by now. Your next date, be sure to take a minute to read your notes, and come prepared with something on the list. She'll be so impressed, she'll turn on the love, and you know what that means.

Normally, I'd sell my tried-and-true method for US$4,000,000 (that's only 10 quid), but you can have it for free. Thank me later. ;)

That sounds like it came out the mouth of a 10 year old school kid, parroting what he heard from one of the teachers while the kid was hiding behind the fence, listening in on smoke break banter. ;)

tim the enchanter
07-12-2007, 02:23 AM
I find it funny how people think of dating and relationships, as it's portrayed in sitcoms or in romantic comedies, and as it is acted out, is actualy some profound natural phenomena, part of the Natural Order. Ha.

chinchilla
07-12-2007, 11:44 AM
It was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. In my 20's, what mattered was what was between her legs; now, it's what's between her ears.

ALL males are attracted to the female body because of the evolutionary fact that males require good genes from females. Female display their good genes by being physically attractive. Men display their good genes by their personality.


Words are 7% of communication, they are not 100%. You have no idea what you are talking about.


It's ok to not understand I'm not having a go at you, but you seriously make my "dating" harder then eventually easier. Harder because from approach I am subjected to tests to make sure that I'm not a complete wussy like you then easier because she starts thinking "Wow, he's not a loser like so many guys and he gets it, He's a man."


You are a nice guy and that isn't a bad thing, I'm glad you have their well-being in mind and I would never manipulate or hurt any person for personal gain. But, being the nice guy is the most manipulated course of action EVER. Example -

Nice Guy - "Hmmm, I think I'll by her flowers" (to manipulate her in to liking me)
Nice Guy - *Gives her flowers*
Her - "Thanks!" (wow, you're like the 10 person this week....)
Nice Guy - "Hmmm that didn't work, I was expecting SEX!" (Damn, my manipulation did not work! :( )


Oh, I understand exactly what they want. It's the same exact thing men want: appreciation. And good sex. I can't help anyone there. You all are on your own to figure that out.

You have no idea. Females want certain values from a person to be attracted to them. Let's call these S and R. S being survival and R being replication. If you give her improved survival chances (by being a leader, being dominant) she will be attracted to you by nature. If you give her high R value (by being intelligent, sense of humour) then she will want to have sex with you, so her daughters/sons will also have your good genes (even if they have no intention of having a child with you).


No, but a little freakin' gift is nice once in a while, ya cheapskate. Also, it gets you much lovin'. Take it from me.

Pitty love. Read these books :-


Nice Guys Don't Get Laid - Marcus P. Jr. Meleton
Nice Guys Sleep Alone - Bruce Feirstein


Plus, I would not take any advice from you related to sex, dating or any social interaction with the opposite sex, for obvious reasons :p


If a woman causes you pain, that's a subconscious signal to not be with her. Aren't brains great?

Read a book in the area and realise that you are wrong, no. Just no.


You failed school, didn't you?

You find it hard fitting in with social environments and especially talking to opposite sex don't you. Plus, "dating" is like the rarest thing for you and make a mess and screw up with every one of them.


Take my advice, I'm not better than you. But, I do know more in this area and I'm almost positive you know more in areas that I don't, but this is my area.

http://mostuseful.co.uk/index.php/Summary-Content/Content/Dating-for-Men/

If you would like further advice in the forms of books and summaries.

chinchilla
07-12-2007, 11:46 AM
I find it funny how people think of dating and relationships, as it's portrayed in sitcoms or in romantic comedies, and as it is acted out, is actualy some profound natural phenomena, part of the Natural Order. Ha.

If you have a little search theres a well documented and researched pattern of the human mating game! :p

We are animals and just like other animals we have a mating ritual that we have to fulfill to have sex. Ours is obviously more complicated but that is why such things as art and music exist.

baron von lotsov
07-12-2007, 11:55 AM
You sound jaded, but if most women you've met are mentally ill, maybe it's because they just seem that way (unless she's drooling and talking to her invisible friends). Don't be afraid to laugh and say and do whatever you want, whenever you want. She'll love you for it. I promise. Oh, and don't forget to do nice things for her.

What I tell them directly contradicts their system brainwashing. I'm sure I told you once before the story of me being attacked with a flute in one of our local pubs. As I say, it is mental illness.

i_am
07-12-2007, 12:15 PM
LMAO

good luck fellas.

But then what would I know?

Apparently I am mentally ill.

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/8/5/3/f_51123v1m_5feeee5.gif

hint:

just be yourself. If she is not going to love you for who you are, what is the point?

and if you try to be something you're not, chances are, she will see right through it.

lenejento
07-12-2007, 02:43 PM
Maybe what women are so unnattracted to by men is their victim mentality "Oh, I'm so hard done by by women!!", and then overlook the world as a whole, overlooking that it's a mans world while saying it. Maybe that's why women are more attracted to "bad boys", they have the illusion of being confident, but off course underneeth is an even worse victim mentality than "nice guys". Off course I am aware that women also have this victim mentallity bigtime.

And don't think that the sexes are not conditioned into having certain views on their own sex and the other, I mean we have to be conditioned into thinking that we ARE our sex in the first place. After that we have been falling like idiots for the conditioning.
I don't know if anything serves their agenda more than this...!!!

bigus_dickus
07-12-2007, 02:44 PM
How would listening to women do that?

it's not just listening to women, that one would normally do, but pretending to listen and keeping notes on your computer of what exactly to bring up so that you get your desired results. that's what your post was about, that's what my post was about.

tim the enchanter
07-12-2007, 07:19 PM
If you have a little search theres a well documented and researched pattern of the human mating game! :p

We are animals and just like other animals we have a mating ritual that we have to fulfill to have sex. Ours is obviously more complicated but that is why such things as art and music exist.

You're confusing deeply embed DNA with cultural inventions. I' like to hear you argue that what we call "teenage" today can be traced back to monkeys.

chinchilla
07-12-2007, 07:47 PM
You're confusing deeply embed DNA with cultural inventions. I' like to hear you argue that what we call "teenage" today can be traced back to monkeys.


If you would like to tell me what monkeys and teenagers have to do with what you quoted, maybe I could answer :p

lydia78
08-12-2007, 02:51 PM
No they are not. I have never met one who has been and I purposefully look for the smart women because nothing pisses me off more than a dumb blond.

Most I have met have been on the verge of mental illness and full of mind control, even though I do my best to avoid the brainwashed types. So it's the other way around, women need a man's intellect to protect them. Nothing is more of an attraction for a woman than a man who knows his stuff and is fair and kind towards them. If your woman demands stuff the best thing to do is show her the door. A proper woman won't do this and will trust in your judgement and benefit by it. Only homosexuals are attracted by what is known in the PC dictionary as a 'strong woman', especially one who has undergone 'assertiveness training'. This is what you have been on the receiving end of. So sort it out, it is not your fault. They have been brainwashed.


LMAO!!! Oh dear Baron....'dumb blondes', 'mentally ill', glad to see your staving off tavistock social constructs of the sexes by following steriotypical BS....oh no...that is tavistock brainwashing after all!!!
If this is your opinion on women then two things; first, goodluck finding a woman that fits into the catagories of your requirement and two your gonna need that goodluck because you sound just like my old man who was a G.M. mason and hated women....'mentally ill'....if thats what christianity is about then you sir can keep it.

Nothing funnier than a man whose scared of real women, makes the supression of women easier to understand.

lydia78
08-12-2007, 03:05 PM
What I tell them directly contradicts their system brainwashing. I'm sure I told you once before the story of me being attacked with a flute in one of our local pubs. As I say, it is mental illness.

It takes genius to recognize genius, but in your case it takes mental illness to recognise mental illness mate.

lydia78
08-12-2007, 03:07 PM
LMAO

good luck fellas.

But then what would I know?

Apparently I am mentally ill.

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/8/5/3/f_51123v1m_5feeee5.gif

hint:

just be yourself. If she is not going to love you for who you are, what is the point?

and if you try to be something you're not, chances are, she will see right through it.

LOL...being mentally ill never felt so liberating LOL:D;)

chinchilla
08-12-2007, 03:12 PM
Nothing wrong with being mentally ill if you're happy! :p

lydia78
08-12-2007, 03:15 PM
Nothing wrong with being mentally ill if you're happy! :p

well baron doesn't come across as the happy type so.....:Dlol

carlg1212
08-12-2007, 07:02 PM
it's not just listening to women, that one would normally do, but pretending to listen and keeping notes on your computer of what exactly to bring up so that you get your desired results. that's what your post was about, that's what my post was about.

I am listening, I'm just writing it down so I won't forget it. I do that with school, my job, etc., anything I want to remember, I write down. Why not apply it to the women also?

carlg1212
08-12-2007, 07:14 PM
Take my advice, I'm not better than you. But, I do know more in this area and I'm almost positive you know more in areas that I don't, but this is my area.

http://mostuseful.co.uk/index.php/Summary-Content/Content/Dating-for-Men/

If you would like further advice in the forms of books and summaries.

Unless you're just trying to get laid, the content in those ebooks will never, ever work, because they address personality traits. Either you have those traits, or you don't. You can't learn them. If you act like you have them, eventually the woman knows you're acting and you're a phony in her eyes. The result? I'm sleeping alone, wondering how in the world I fucked up again.

Listening, however, is a learned skill. I have done nothing different in my approach to women except listen well. I am still a horrible dancer, like crappy food, have no money, somewhat gassy after eating chili, snore, burp, fart, bizarre sense of humor, weird taste in books and music, etc. etc. etc. As I learn to listen better, I won't have to write so much shite down, I'll remember it better. Makes me wonder what other areas of my life I could use better listening skills.

Listening isn't the only skill, but I'm shocked how nicer women act around me since I've focused on listening better.

carlg1212
08-12-2007, 07:20 PM
What I tell them directly contradicts their system brainwashing. I'm sure I told you once before the story of me being attacked with a flute in one of our local pubs. As I say, it is mental illness.

You should have said "You call that a flute?", as you whip out your cock and say, "How about a little skin flute!?!?!?!?!" ;)

lenejento
08-12-2007, 07:40 PM
You should have said "You call that a flute?", as you whip out your cock and say, "How about a little skin flute!?!?!?!?!" ;)

Hmm, not a good idea, she'd probably hit your skin flute with the flute...
That's what I would do :D

chinchilla
08-12-2007, 07:48 PM
well baron doesn't come across as the happy type so.....:Dlol

It's rather frustrating for some men to be baffled so you can't blame him! :p That's the difference of the brains, men are logical and women are emotional, men are a straight line and women are a zig-zag :p

Unless you're just trying to get laid, the content in those ebooks will never, ever work, because they address personality traits. Either you have those traits, or you don't.

They work because it's the truth. I use them and they are now part of me, I used to be a very shy boy and now I'm a very confident man and traits can be learned because we can do anything, we just got to remember how :p


You can't learn them. If you act like you have them, eventually the woman knows you're acting and you're a phony in her eyes. The result? I'm sleeping alone, wondering how in the world I fucked up again.

Why do you think faking it until you make it, is a good way to learn? because it works. I have never seen a person who uses this mindset with understanding ever say "I'm sleeping alone, wondering how in the world I fucked up again" simply because they know and they laugh and learn. It's guys like you who say that exact thing and still don't understand because you never learn :p



Listening, however, is a learned skill. I have done nothing different in my approach to women except listen well. I am still a horrible dancer, like crappy food, have no money, somewhat gassy after eating chili, snore, burp, fart, bizarre sense of humor, weird taste in books and music, etc. etc. etc. As I learn to listen better, I won't have to write so much shite down, I'll remember it better. Makes me wonder what other areas of my life I could use better listening skills.

Listening isn't the only skill, but I'm shocked how nicer women act around me since I've focused on listening better.

Of course they'd be nicer to you! Why do you think so many women like gay men? :)

carlg1212
08-12-2007, 08:33 PM
They work because it's the truth. I use them and they are now part of me, I used to be a very shy boy and now I'm a very confident man and traits can be learned because we can do anything, we just got to remember how :p

You're confusing "learned behavior" with "personality trait".

Why do you think faking it until you make it, is a good way to learn? because it works. I have never seen a person who uses this mindset with understanding ever say "I'm sleeping alone, wondering how in the world I fucked up again" simply because they know and they laugh and learn. It's guys like you who say that exact thing and still don't understand because you never learn :p

Sounds deceitful to me. I've been down that road. But whatever works for you, bro. I'll stick with what works for me. I'm not telling you what to do.

Of course they'd be nicer to you! Why do you think so many women like gay men? :)

Look, the bottom line for me is, more intimate time with women. Gay men don't do that. But the floodgates have opened lately since I've applied my theory, and I'm not complaining.

carlg1212
08-12-2007, 08:33 PM
Hmm, not a good idea, she'd probably hit your skin flute with the flute...
That's what I would do :D

Some guys might be into that. :)

lydia78
08-12-2007, 09:22 PM
It's rather frustrating for some men to be baffled so you can't blame him! :p That's the difference of the brains, men are logical and women are emotional, men are a straight line and women are a zig-zag :p



There is a massive difference in making an intelligent statement and putting women down for not being intelligent...massive. In fact the latter has nothing to do with logic or rationale, just ego and indoctrinated BS from the damn bible...as for women and men the divide, the hemispheres...well I find women to demonstrate more rationale and logic than most men due to their emotional intelligence working with their 'right hem'.....all this, 'women are in this box men in the other' is completely wrong...we are all intrinsically androgenous, that is we all have masculine and feminine energy within us, and when its balanced out well then you've got yourself a nice foundation to work off....Baron just sounds outdated and Catholic LOL!!!!

lifeofbrian
09-12-2007, 04:33 PM
I don't want to steal Fantana's fantanatastic thunder, but it occurred to me how useful this will be (hopefully).

Relationships can be difficult. This is probably because thousands of years ago, attraction was based on how fit someone was for breeding. This is still a big part of male-female relationships, but we've evolved (or devolved, depending on how you look at it) to the point where men & women can grow together emotionally & mentally. Have you ever read your partner's thoughts? That's freaky.

Relationships fail because usually the man screws up. If you keep your woman happy, you'll be happy. I'm not saying it's right, wrong or indifferent, it just is. Take it from me. I've done everything wrong the last few years.

As you know, women drop hints all the time. You have to be listening for them, instead of wondering what she looks like naked or staring at her boobs all the time. It's ok to think about that, but listen to what she says (because women talk a lot, they drop lots of hints).

The trick is, you need to record what she's saying. Not with a tape recorder, because then you'll have to listen to her talk about the same thing twice, and you might start to read everything she says as a double entendre, which may drive you insane. It's a woman's secret defense. Don't do it...but if you do, let me know how it works out.

Instead, remember what she says, make mental notes, and when you get home, open a Word or Excel file and type in things that interest her. She dropped the hint about her favorite restaurant? Type it in. Favorite shoe store? Type it in. Favorite chocolate? Favorite movie? Type it in. You may be overwhelmed at first, but it's easy. You can't possibly remember everything; that's her job. Women are 100 times smarter than men. You should know that by now. Your next date, be sure to take a minute to read your notes, and come prepared with something on the list. She'll be so impressed, she'll turn on the love, and you know what that means.

Normally, I'd sell my tried-and-true method for US$4,000,000 (that's only 10 quid), but you can have it for free. Thank me later. ;)


Very funny :D Cheers for the laugh.

At the end of the day though, women are people just like you and me.

Individuals with personalities.

Not a separate species from outer space.

Knowing that, understanding and living with women is no biggie.

In fact, it's very very nice.

carlg1212
09-12-2007, 05:58 PM
Very funny :D Cheers for the laugh.

At the end of the day though, women are people just like you and me.

Individuals with personalities.

Not a separate species from outer space.

Knowing that, understanding and living with women is no biggie.

In fact, it's very very nice.


I'm glad you didn't take it too seriously!

tejas
09-12-2007, 08:47 PM
Don't forget the role of that good ol' law of the jungle juice dopamine.

If you want to get your leg over, research how to trigger it in the opposite sex because it's like an addictive drug.

The trouble is, and coming from a male perspective, most women are so dosed up and mind controlled on reality TV, domestic makeover programs and Sex In The City/Desperate Housewives shit, they don't really know what they want anymore.

Anyway, happy hunting and remember lads, you're only a wank away from not giving 2 hoots about 'em for an hour or so ;)

LOOL

lifeofbrian
09-12-2007, 08:50 PM
I'm glad you didn't take it too seriously!

Hehe...it's funny how we blokes can laugh at ourselves though and few women can...

Hmmm..I might have to reconsider... :)

tejas
09-12-2007, 09:07 PM
Those books seem interesting chiini chiini but the links are broked :(

chinchilla
09-12-2007, 10:48 PM
Those books seem interesting chiini chiini but the links are broked :(

If you're referring too me, the books I added aren't linked and the site link I gave has various links to various books on the area that do work :O

zero1
09-12-2007, 10:55 PM
I don't want to steal Fantana's fantanatastic thunder, but it occurred to me how useful this will be (hopefully).

Relationships can be difficult. This is probably because thousands of years ago, attraction was based on how fit someone was for breeding. This is still a big part of male-female relationships, but we've evolved (or devolved, depending on how you look at it) to the point where men & women can grow together emotionally & mentally. Have you ever read your partner's thoughts? That's freaky.

Relationships fail because usually the man screws up. If you keep your woman happy, you'll be happy. I'm not saying it's right, wrong or indifferent, it just is. Take it from me. I've done everything wrong the last few years.

As you know, women drop hints all the time. You have to be listening for them, instead of wondering what she looks like naked or staring at her boobs all the time. It's ok to think about that, but listen to what she says (because women talk a lot, they drop lots of hints).

The trick is, you need to record what she's saying. Not with a tape recorder, because then you'll have to listen to her talk about the same thing twice, and you might start to read everything she says as a double entendre, which may drive you insane. It's a woman's secret defense. Don't do it...but if you do, let me know how it works out.

Instead, remember what she says, make mental notes, and when you get home, open a Word or Excel file and type in things that interest her. She dropped the hint about her favorite restaurant? Type it in. Favorite shoe store? Type it in. Favorite chocolate? Favorite movie? Type it in. You may be overwhelmed at first, but it's easy. You can't possibly remember everything; that's her job. Women are 100 times smarter than men. You should know that by now. Your next date, be sure to take a minute to read your notes, and come prepared with something on the list. She'll be so impressed, she'll turn on the love, and you know what that means.

Normally, I'd sell my tried-and-true method for US$4,000,000 (that's only 10 quid), but you can have it for free. Thank me later. ;)

Very good. Now if only I weren't celibate...:p

ssyx
09-12-2007, 11:32 PM
Some good advice in here....and some bad advice too lol

Here is my advice :-

The Ultimate Compatabily Test

If you fart and she get's genuinely upset about it, then chuck her. She is a nightmare.

If she farts in front of you, MARRY HER!


Never really thought about it in these terms but, this appears to be excellent advice steevo.
This is a good measure of comfort and openness with each other IMHO.
My GF farts on my legs and laughs about it when we're in bed.:D
The only former GF I still have a good friendship with is the only other GF who farted in front of me. Coincidence?
Farting is the new relationship compatabilinater.