I've seen the 'so-called' evidence

[beyond]

I've taken a close look at all the 'evidence' I have been given the opportunity to see. There is nothing, not even a shred of actual refutable evidence to support the existence of reptilians. Yet there are so many convinced of their actuality.

Does this in fact mean that the belief in reptilians is actually a 'religion'/ 'Cult' / 'Faith'? It looks that way to me. Does anyone have an opinion about this?

[lenejento]

I've taken a close look at all the 'evidence' I have been given the opportunity to see. There is nothing, not even a shred of actual refutable evidence to support the existence of reptilians. Yet there are so many convinced of their actuality.

Does this in fact mean that the belief in reptilians is actually a 'religion'/ 'Cult' / 'Faith'? It looks that way to me. Does anyone have an opinion about this?

Agreed, there is no refutable evidence. I think what makes people inclined to believe in the reptilian theory is that it actually would make alot of sense if you start to look into it.
Being open minded about it is ok, but I will not really believe it tilll I see it, why would I do that? We can deal with what we do know first in my opinion.
The masses would definately percieve a group of reptilian believers waving non-evidence as if it was evidence as a cult.

[sb_priest]

I to agree with what lenejento has said.

I'm willing to accept them, but some hard evidence wouldn't go amiss.

[irak]

i have no evidence they exist, i have no evidence they don't exist, but when i look out into the world i see a lot of people acting like they are reptilian and for that there is proof. Are they reptilian by flesh or by mind makes no difference to me.

[wolfchild]

well' just like david say's in his books! if your looking for reptilians you are just not getting this! human eye-sight can only see a tiny little frequency range' and the reps surely know exactly what that percentage is! my guess is that most people who visit this site have not read most of david's books! i suggest more people do so to get a more clear picture of how this can be done and how they have done this! remember' david say's he knew this was going to be a touchy subject' but he had to research this before he could finally speak about this openly and through his books. The NEW WORLD ORDER in which he speaks of his god dam 100%! Why would he dis-credit putting in something that was total utter bullshit and spoiling his work that he had researched! read - (INFINITE LOVE) then you will understand how this works.

[cruise4]

"Yet there are so many convinced of their actuality"

Are there? Where are they? I've been researching into this stuff for about 6 months and probably could number on the fingers of one hand those who out and out believe it, that I've come across.

[rossus]

...
there's no proof in davids books for the existence of shapeshifting reptiles.
there are only certain facts which when connected, seem to hint that there is a possibility that the world is being held hostage by reptillians....

the reptilians are just a theory, not a proven fact.
don't go from blindly believing the opinion of the masses...
to blindly believing the opinion of a conspiracy researcher.

don't be affraid to admit to yourself and others,
that you don't know for sure.... and unless you know for sure, don't believe it to be the truth.

we all made this mistake many times and still do sometimes.
good luck :)

[humanswin]

It is simple,the video of Bush I released is very compelling to say the least.Trust me people have been taking cracks at it from the start,not even close to being debunked.The bush video proves nothing to me,I believed in this theory from the beggining..it has proved something to a lot of people(I know of this well after four months of communiction with people about this).Also it has gotten many people to at least look into the subject. What has followed my release has been a huge wave of videos trying to take up the cause..most of them by people who are sincere.......Some of the other evidence has been good as well.The problem I see is the people trying to help,some,dont have my judgement or discression on what is good evidence,so they are actually hurting what I am trying to do on YT.That's fine,they have good hearts..if people cant see that..and want to throw the bush video out with the bath water,so be it. As for some of the video releasers..DELIBERATE DISINFO TRYING TO DISCREDIT ICKE AND MYSELF..YES ME..I SAID IT..ME..I have had to be on the frontline,fighting my ass off ... watching streams of bullshit wash around my video..making my work...yes work,i bust my ass on YT..all the more difficult..its ok ,I love the challenge if not hate the a-hole disinfo producers...no one said this or anything in life would be easy...and remember what I say on my video description...I DONT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE IN REPTILIAN RULER THEORY!..but please people use your good judgement.

[ichi wa zen]

People, does it matter? The reptilian part makes it really difficult to explain to other people who dont know about the NWO yet.

They may believe your story untill you drop the reptilianbomb on them.

Please, tell the people that dont know about a satanic occult elite who control our world, after that let them find out on their own if these rulers are reptilian or not.

This makes awakening people a heck of lot easier!!

[tim the enchanter]

I've taken a close look at all the 'evidence' I have been given the opportunity to see. There is nothing, not even a shred of actual refutable evidence to support the existence of reptilians. Yet there are so many convinced of their actuality.

Does this in fact mean that the belief in reptilians is actually a 'religion'/ 'Cult' / 'Faith'? It looks that way to me. Does anyone have an opinion about this?

Fine, but perhaps it would make good use of time if you set about to write a piece and post it, taking apart the arguments made for a reptillian prescence. Perhaps it could be made a forum sticky?

[hirschfelder]

Let me get this straight

In order for you (the nay-sayers) to believe or entertain the idea that the world is SECRETLY being controlled by a Reptilian race you want PROOF and EVIDENCE? Christ on a bike.

It wouldn't make for much of a secret conspiracy if there was 'proof' all over the place

I don't see why people can't just be humble and respectful and simply say they aren't convinced by the arguments for, rather than narrow-mindedly and pompously reject the idea, utterly, because there's no 'evidence'

What do you want? A Reptilian in a zoo for you to go see?

People tell me that 9/11 was the work of Muslim terrorists, they say this because there is no 'proof' otherwise. You Reptilian nay-sayers are NO different to these people, same mentality

I just don't get why some of you people seem to LIKE having your reality dictated to you

[rossus]

no need to call us nay-sayers hirschfeld.
there is only one people on this earth and on this forum.
don't make it into a "us against them" battle.

you don't have proof of the existence, and nobody here got proof.


why can't we all just say what we feel and think is right....
and respect eachothers opinions?

you seem to want this place to be with only people who have the same idea as you...

[paganus]

whether or not they exist,PROVE they are 'evil'...

[hirschfelder]

no need to call us nay-sayers hirschfeld.
there is only one people on this earth and on this forum.
don't make it into a "us against them" battle.

you don't have proof of the existence, and nobody here got proof.


why can't we all just say what we feel and think is right....
and respect eachothers opinions?

you seem to want this place to be with only people who have the same idea as you...

But you are nay-sayers

I never said I have 'proof'. For the record, I'm not convinced, though I do find the body of evidence, such as it is, to be compelling enough for ME to entertain the idea.

I have no problem with what people do or don't believe, I just find it utterly bemusing that people want 'proof' of a secret agenda/presence before they entertain the possibility of it

All these people are doing is allowing those who control 'proof' to control their reality

Something can be real even if there is an absence of 'proof' or 'evidence'

And God kows what you meant by your last line

[rossus]

fair enough :)

[hirschfelder]

And another thing

Let's say there is a Reptilian (or any) conspiracy, attitudes like those expressed in the OP would make for an ideal environment in which they could operate, unchecked, provided they extended the conspiracy to controlling 'proof' of their presence/machinations

'Proof' is a commodity which has been constructed in order to obscure truth and reality. Of course, I can't prove that ...

AS for the reps, I'd advise people to read the available literature and base their opinion on that, not the absence or presence of 'proof' on the internet

If you then wish to argue in favour of or against their existence, or form an absolute opinion, you can do so in terms of the existing research, rather than putting so much stock into something so flaky as 'proof

[abrilliantone]

well' just like david say's in his books! if your looking for reptilians you are just not getting this! human eye-sight can only see a tiny little frequency range' and the reps surely know exactly what that percentage is! my guess is that most people who visit this site have not read most of david's books! i suggest more people do so to get a more clear picture of how this can be done and how they have done this! remember' david say's he knew this was going to be a touchy subject' but he had to research this before he could finally speak about this openly and through his books. The NEW WORLD ORDER in which he speaks of his god dam 100%! Why would he dis-credit putting in something that was total utter bullshit and spoiling his work that he had researched! read - (INFINITE LOVE) then you will understand how this works.

wonderfully put, bravo wolfchild :);):cool:

[seer74]

And another thing

Let's say there is a Reptilian (or any) conspiracy, attitudes like those expressed in the OP would make for an ideal environment in which they could operate, unchecked, provided they extended the conspiracy to controlling 'proof' of their presence/machinations

'Proof' is a commodity which has been constructed in order to obscure truth and reality. Of course, I can't prove that ...

AS for the reps, I'd advise people to read the available literature and base their opinion on that, not the absence or presence of 'proof' on the internet

If you then wish to argue in favour of or against their existence, or form an absolute opinion, you can do so in terms of the existing research, rather than putting so much stock into something so flaky as 'proof

very well put.
personally I believe in the reptilians because I have seen them.

[truthdog]

Coming from another angle, I understand the frustration and confusion to the existance of these dimensional creatures. It's best to first start researching the easier and more accepted areas rather than delve into the reptilian theory. That isn't true for everyone, but some people are told by others that these enitities are living amongst us and they are the global elite. Well, they are, but it is important to have an overall understanding of the Illuminati as well as a study into the paranormal, Cryptozoology, and other phenomena. I myself have done that, and I am still continuing to today.
Otherwise, this kind of outrageous truth is not accepted by most. It's extremely rare to find someone who believes in all of this. Especially dealing with people who really aren't human at all, but a race that has existed on this planet since the dawn of time. They have pretended to be our Gods, and they still are. They have sacrificed many people, and they still. are. They are dangerous, and have a diobolical plan for mankind. To enslave the earth is their goal, and I know how this sounds, believe me.. of course I know how this sounds.
But being born as a catholic or any other religion, wherever you came from, all of us were brought up to believe that monsters don't exist, etc. it's just your imagination, I wonder where Monster under your bed comes from.

People who are searching for truth must first look into the routes of ancient history. It is of the utmost importance that you read as much as you can, because one source or a few sources on the internet is not enough. The second thing is to be open about it, who cares if you believe in this. It shouldn't be any of thier business or athority to tell you that what you think is true is not.
I am not trying to lecture you, I am trying to help you. I think it's excellent that you have even bothered to go into this field, but have patience and don't give up.
When somebody comes forth with the explanation, " There is not a shred of proof anywhere" You haven't looked hard enough. You really have to be dedicated.
When slicing off a piece of bread, you know that there is a whole loaf left over, and many more slices to cut. You think you have this thing all figured out, the truth, when only really you have only another piece to the puzzle. Our goals are to find the answers and slowly together we are all putting the pieces together, and as we go along in our life journeys, others will give us pieces as well to add to it.
Like David Icke, I've talked to many people through email, phone and reality, across the states getting information from as many people as I can. Now. With that said, you don't have to do anything, because in the long run the only thing this field helps you with is..
giving you the knowledge about these creatures, Illuminati, and preparing you spiritually. If you are not spiritual at all then that is a door that has closed. This makes someone more vulnerable to the powers that be. I take it that most of you have seen this horrendous problem with the television and teenagers today. MTV, the way society is acting is absolutely unacceptable.

I wouldn't give people the lable Sheeple, because that is cruel. Nobody is a sheep, everyone has the potential to understand the goals and truth of the global elite, but that in itself is not even enlightenment so I will tell you right now that I don't feel superior to anyone else. I feel bad for them, I try to reach out and explain. If someone tells you that they know more than you, then you know this is not right. For instance, I know a lot about the Illuminati but I don't have that much knowledge on cooking. Everyone is strong in different areas. Better yet, some people are meant to live this way, I do believe that everything happens for a reason.

The last thing I will say is this, keep looking. I remember when I doubted myself and I tried pushing away my experiences, etc. I stopped researching it. I've found that, quite frankly that doesn't work. I always get lead someway or another right back to where I was.. either someone will come to me out of the blue and tell me that they saw a shapeshift, such as my friend from New York. One of her friends was a satanist and as she was talking to him, his face changed to serpent features. Her reaction was that maybe it was some kind of a hallucination even though she wasn't under the influence of drugs...

America doesn't generally accept such theories. I suggest traveling out of the country, if you don't live in the USA, because there is so much out there. So much more to learn.. so much that isn't written in books either but told by very wise people.

Listen to what everyone has to say.

Good luck

TD

[beldazar]

I feel that i have to reply to this thread, like many others i have not read david ickes books and only heard of him 3 days ago, this is all new to me, it started off with someone sending me a vid of global warming which led me to look at another vid nearby, which explained the uncanny semblance between all the religions being based on sun worship. the reptilian theory stated somewhere that reptilian souls or reptilian remnants souls are incarnated into normal looking human bodies which would explain why we dont see crocodiles walking around. At the moment i feel a bit freaked out by all this, and i feel that its important to let people know the truth but i am up for ridicule right now, i hope this spreads cos it sure needs to! p.s. hi to everyone out there ;)