Fools and Magicians

[himram abif]

Faith starts where reason ends. The fool has as much faith as the magician. The magician understands cause and consequence and as such is master of its effects, but the fool is yet to form an idea. Faith sustains them both as the fool has nothing else, he lives in a world where everything is. The magician in his world full of reasons, needs faith to keep order, or else falls into the pit, for if he has no faith then he becomes the master and for that he will struggle to find a reason and will strive to become the order.


But the fool needs also to be aware. For not yet having understanding or ideas the fool can also be an agent for innocent malevolence. But the fools' faith is short, in time an idea will form and the fool can no longer remain in innocent shape, for the fool must make a choice, the first time faith was pitted against his own reason.


Now the first time that faith and reason met, faith from the heart reason from the head, fear was born to cover both. For reason will always doubt faith, as faith will always undermine reason, so fear will drive both always onward.


To conquer fear is not to be un-afraid, but mearly to bring reason and faith into balance, a unified piont (or a still clear pool). Intention then comes into play. For when reason and faith are balanced, fear quelled, intention is thus revealed. Intention through force of will becomes action.

Reason is to know or understand the action of things.
Faith is to know or understand that there is a reason.
Love is the parent of faith,in its greater part,in its smaller a force of will.


So the fool, yet to know reason, through unknowing faith, be loved and loving. Yet when reason takes him on his journey, his first step will take him the furthest away. Through a maze of many colours will his reason and faith take him, shaping his fears and love, guiding his intent and his will. And so after time, the magician, (for which through mastery of reason and loving faith the fool shall progress to be.) may find himself challenging one of his pillars of being. For surely in the face of questioning reason, faith must surely wither. In time the magician may become tired of asking the eternally foolish question; What is truth?


The magician shall have no more answers if he discards his faith. Fear of reason, love of faith, love of reason, fear of faith oh how the magician will envy the fool, just as the fool looked up to the magician, each thinking the other held all the answers. The mage that discards his faith will in time catch a glimpse of faiths' power, and through his arts be compelled to imitate that which he discarded. Through reasoning away his faith, he diminishes his capacity of love, untill in time; What is truth? becomes Why love?


The magician who keeps his faith, will find the answer to that question and in his being will find reason to exist, for truth is in experience not of experience. So through his experience of loving faith and capacity for reason will he answer; Why love? Love is all there is.


With this answer the mage is no more than fool

[jconnar]

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[jconnar]

Can't believe nobody else commented on this very interesting topic.

[noewhan]

Becoming more interested :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149934

[marpat]

Nice OP.

The fool exist in the realm of formless consciousness, which is being or faith. The magician is a creator of forms and worlds, hence he is wisdom, thought.

The magician also needs to be the fool in order to rise above his creations, to set them aside and be free of them.

[jconnar]

Nice OP.

The fool exist in the realm of formless consciousness, which is being or faith. The magician is a creator of forms and worlds, hence he is wisdom, thought.

The magician also needs to be the fool in order to rise above his creations, to set them aside and be free of them.

Very nice.

[himram abif]

Nice OP.

The fool exist in the realm of formless consciousness, which is being or faith. The magician is a creator of forms and worlds, hence he is wisdom, thought.

The magician also needs to be the fool in order to rise above his creations, to set them aside and be free of them.


Thank you

Very elegantly put marpat excatly the essence i was trying to capture.

Coincidently your avatar is also my signifier:)

[ra86]

The Magician card for me is quite a personal one and correlates into my life, unknowingly, at first. I was at quite a low point mentally, struggling to figure out my ambitions, personally and creatively, and i'd been having these epiphanies about life and how i was in control and anything was possible ect, but i just had to act on my instincts and really just go for it. I'd been thinking how everything in life works like magick, to some extent, but i'd lost my focus, had extreme writers block and wasn't as spiritual as i once was. Anyway, i grabbed my old deck of tarot cards, and just for fun, decided to do a spread (can't remember it's name). i read each card, but fobbed them off as i found it inaccurate and a little too cryptic, which is apparently a 'side affect (or effect?)' of reading your own, apparently. So i just shuffled the cards and kept thinking to myself 'this next card represents you, this next card is the future' and pulled out the magician card, read the description (i'm not an expert!) and it was the only card that truly struck a chord with me. For me the card represents being in control of your own life, manifesting, creating, building etc and having some direction, be it in faith, in life or in the arts. Or all combined. The card is number '1', and my life path number in numerology is '1', whichever names i used (i got about 4 different combos) it still came out as '1'. So i've got this card stuck up on my mirror to remind me constantly that my life is worth living, because i know that there is something big waiting just around the corner, i just have to kick myself up the arse to get there! i wouldn't say i'm entirely on track, but i have an idea, and i think the logical thing to do would be to 'manifest' that idea.
(I'm not sure if this relates to the post entirely, but just wanted to share my EXP of The Mage card)

That is all :D

[himram abif]

The Magician card for me is quite a personal one and correlates into my life, unknowingly, at first. I was at quite a low point mentally, struggling to figure out my ambitions, personally and creatively, and i'd been having these epiphanies about life and how i was in control and anything was possible ect, but i just had to act on my instincts and really just go for it. I'd been thinking how everything in life works like magick, to some extent, but i'd lost my focus, had extreme writers block and wasn't as spiritual as i once was. Anyway, i grabbed my old deck of tarot cards, and just for fun, decided to do a spread (can't remember it's name). i read each card, but fobbed them off as i found it inaccurate and a little too cryptic, which is apparently a 'side affect (or effect?)' of reading your own, apparently. So i just shuffled the cards and kept thinking to myself 'this next card represents you, this next card is the future' and pulled out the magician card, read the description (i'm not an expert!) and it was the only card that truly struck a chord with me. For me the card represents being in control of your own life, manifesting, creating, building etc and having some direction, be it in faith, in life or in the arts. Or all combined. The card is number '1', and my life path number in numerology is '1', whichever names i used (i got about 4 different combos) it still came out as '1'. So i've got this card stuck up on my mirror to remind me constantly that my life is worth living, because i know that there is something big waiting just around the corner, i just have to kick myself up the arse to get there! i wouldn't say i'm entirely on track, but i have an idea, and i think the logical thing to do would be to 'manifest' that idea.
(I'm not sure if this relates to the post entirely, but just wanted to share my EXP of The Mage card)

That is all :D

Thanks for relating.

I am of the oppinion that there is a magician in us all,it just takes a little figuring out then it all becomes elemental;)

[jconnar]

Again I visit this thread to read this.

Do you learn about this stuff in Freemasonry himram abif?

[gorgeousgertie]

the magician is the fool

[notthisshitagain]

(Sorry if translation is shitty; I got this from "La Vía del Tarot, by Alejandro Jodorowsky; book is in Spanish so I had to translate it to English. :) )

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The Fool

Liberty, great energy


The Fool has a name, but he doesn't have a number. It's the only Major Arcane that is not defined with a number. It represents the original energy without limits, total freedom, disorder, chaos, and also the fundamental creative impulse. In the traditional cards, it gave origin to characters such as The Joker, that can represent all the other cards at will, without fully identifying with any. The key phrase for The Fool would be: "All the paths are my path."

This card gives the impresion of energy: In it the character walks with confidence, his shoes are red, poking the ground with a red stick. But, where is he going? Is he walking in a straight path? It is possible, but we could imagine that he may be spinning, in a neverending fashion, around his red stick. The Fool represents the eternal traveler that walks around the world with no ties nor nationality. Maybe he's a pilgrim, going to a sacred site. Or maybe in the reductive sense that some people give to it, maybe he's walking towards his destruction. If you pick the stronger interpretation, many will see The Fool as a being that is unattached from any need, of any judgement, staying away from any prohibition, a being that has renounced to any demand; an illuminated, a god, a powerful giant in the flux of energy, an unmeasurable liberating force.

[torus]

Can't believe nobody else commented on this very interesting topic.

Essentially, it's because the Tarot archetypes are so damn trivial and contrived. Paul Foster Case founded The Builders Of The Adytum after he had been expelled from the Golden Dawn for revealing "secrets". The earth shattering secret that he revealed was the 22 Hebrew letter alphabet associated with the Tarot trumps. All these pompous posers and their bullshit "mystery schools", you're all washed up. Your day is DONE. Such pretentious bullshit.

[torus]

The Case Tarot deck was the first to go "public" with these mysterious correlations. Big deal, Aleph corresponds to The Fool, derived from the Latin "follis", a "bag of wind".

[torus]

the magician is the fool

The Fool is EVERY individual in the deck.

[torus]

As explained by Case;

"1 - The Magician. The title refers to Man as the director of the force by which he transforms his consciousness and reaches the stage known to occultists as Initiation."

Yes Luke, "the force".

"until you have learned to concentrate you cannot perform the Great Work. Study this Key carefully and it will help you to learn to concentrate, for its symbolism was created to that end."
-P.F. Case

[octopusrex]

Faith starts where reason ends. The fool has as much faith as the magician. The magician understands cause and consequence and as such is master of its effects, but the fool is yet to form an idea. Faith sustains them both as the fool has nothing else, he lives in a world where everything is. The magician in his world full of reasons, needs faith to keep order, or else falls into the pit, for if he has no faith then he becomes the master and for that he will struggle to find a reason and will strive to become the order.


But the fool needs also to be aware. For not yet having understanding or ideas the fool can also be an agent for innocent malevolence. But the fools' faith is short, in time an idea will form and the fool can no longer remain in innocent shape, for the fool must make a choice, the first time faith was pitted against his own reason.


Now the first time that faith and reason met, faith from the heart reason from the head, fear was born to cover both. For reason will always doubt faith, as faith will always undermine reason, so fear will drive both always onward.


To conquer fear is not to be un-afraid, but mearly to bring reason and faith into balance, a unified piont (or a still clear pool). Intention then comes into play. For when reason and faith are balanced, fear quelled, intention is thus revealed. Intention through force of will becomes action.

Reason is to know or understand the action of things.
Faith is to know or understand that there is a reason.
Love is the parent of faith,in its greater part,in its smaller a force of will.


So the fool, yet to know reason, through unknowing faith, be loved and loving. Yet when reason takes him on his journey, his first step will take him the furthest away. Through a maze of many colours will his reason and faith take him, shaping his fears and love, guiding his intent and his will. And so after time, the magician, (for which through mastery of reason and loving faith the fool shall progress to be.) may find himself challenging one of his pillars of being. For surely in the face of questioning reason, faith must surely wither. In time the magician may become tired of asking the eternally foolish question; What is truth?


The magician shall have no more answers if he discards his faith. Fear of reason, love of faith, love of reason, fear of faith oh how the magician will envy the fool, just as the fool looked up to the magician, each thinking the other held all the answers. The mage that discards his faith will in time catch a glimpse of faiths' power, and through his arts be compelled to imitate that which he discarded. Through reasoning away his faith, he diminishes his capacity of love, untill in time; What is truth? becomes Why love?


The magician who keeps his faith, will find the answer to that question and in his being will find reason to exist, for truth is in experience not of experience. So through his experience of loving faith and capacity for reason will he answer; Why love? Love is all there is.


With this answer the mage is no more than fool

To be beyond goodness, passion and ignorance is to be the fool.

[jconnar]

As explained by Case;

"1 - The Magician. The title refers to Man as the director of the force by which he transforms his consciousness and reaches the stage known to occultists as Initiation."

Yes Luke, "the force".

"until you have learned to concentrate you cannot perform the Great Work. Study this Key carefully and it will help you to learn to concentrate, for its symbolism was created to that end."
-P.F. Case

Interesting, so the real initiation is that of the Magician, to be in control of the spiritual elements?

[notthisshitagain]

(Okay... I wanted to add more info to The Fool post, but the damn Edit button dissapeared.. so I'll just move on).

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The Magician

To Start and to Choose

The Magician carries the number 1. This number contains the whole, it's like the original point from where a universe is born. For The Magician, everything is possible: on his table, he has a number of elements that he can employ whenever he wishes to, and a bag that we can imagine has no end. This character acts from his table towards the cosmos, towards the spiritual life. Even though he's represented by a masculine figure, The Magician is androginous and he works with light and shadow, juggling from the unconciousness to the supra-conciousness. His left hand is holding an active staff, and his right hand, a receptive piece of gold. This yellow coin, a mini-sun, symbolizes perfection, the truth, but also it lets us know that The Magician does not forget about ordinary necessities. On his other hand, his blue staff tries to catch the cosmic strenght. We can also see something like an extra finger, that will have its echo in the sixth finger (toe) on the foot of The Strenght. That sixth finger can be an indication of his dexterity, of his ability to organize reality according to his intelligence, but it doesn't stop being mysterious. He could be a conjurer that hides something under the table, or on the contrary, an initiate.

His table has 3 legs. We can think that the 4th leg is outside the card: going beyond the phase of possibilities and into the reality of action, of choice, it's the way The Magician will act. But we also understand that the number 3 is the number of the spirit, and the blue color, means spiritual receptiveness.

Therefore, The Magician's yellow shoes indicate that his intelligence touches the ground, a ground which is red colored, of humanity, receiving at the same time the call of the divine force. It's a mind that is looking to place itself in the human world, trying to find solutions for the material life. So, it's also a card that will talk about jobs, work, profesion.

The little yellow tree that is located between his feet could be the genitals of Mother Nature that has given birth to him: The Magician comes from another dimension and has arrived to look for his world, his audience, his field of action, his art, his ideas, his love, his wishes. He's going to satisfy his needs, to cheat, to start, to learn how to live...

On the table we find 3 dice that show 3 sides each: 1, 2 and 4. SO every dice gives a value of 7, and when we add them up, we get 21, which is the high value of all the major arcana. So, we can say, that The Magician has, at his disposal, all of the Tarot deck. He also has on his hands and on the table the 4 staves of the minor arcana (a disk, a staff, a knife that symbolizes the sword, and a cup disguised among his conjurer elements). That indicates that we reach the truth going thru the illusion. At the level of his sex there's an orange shape that reminds us of a snake: he has placed before him the sexual strenght (kundalini) and he's capable of controlling it.

The hat of The Magician describes the beginning of a spiral. It comes from the invisible, since it represents the first point, it comes out from thin air to give his first steps in the world. On this hat, a yellow ribbon made of light emerges from his hair, from the mental, and opens up to reunite with the sky, in an union with the universe. His goal is, maybe, to immortalize the individual conscience. On his yellow hair, a symbol of his luminous intelligence, 8 little orange circles indicate that he's aware of perfection and that he sets it up as his goal. On a psychological plane, it could also be seen as a young man that has his head filled with his mother's ideas (because number 8 also symbolizes The Justice, a maternal figure).

The Magician's belt is double. If it is considered a symbol of will, we can see that he's able to exercise his free will over his intellect, but also over his animal self, his flesh. On the other hand, this duality indicates that he hasn't reached the realization of his being: as long as there's no internal dialogue, the illumination, the truth, is not there.

[torus]

Interesting, so the real initiation is that of the Magician, to be in control of the spiritual elements?

I have no idea as I now regard the tarot template as not only antiquated but redundant in this time. As used as a tool for memorizing colour and sound associations (fixed - "dogmatic"), astrological and planetary attributes, the tarot has its place. It's use as a "fortune telling" device is a gross perversion for a mere alphabet to engage in. In the B.O.T.A course, you have to colour your own tarot keys. There are only three decks worth acquiring; The Rider Waite, The B.O.T.A deck (mail order only from Los Angeles) and the Crowley deck.

You need dedicated students who learn to use the Tarot as a tool to form a psychic altar. The Rider Waite and the B.O.T.A decks provide imagery that is quite easy to remember and visualize. 12 specific trumps are used to form an astrological circle, and the various zodiac symbols and their corresponding planetary attrributes must also be memorized and visualized quite clearly. C'mon...we're not just trying to talk to the living here now are we....An aggregate of consciousness with a specific symbolic language that (hopefully) forms a point of coherence for the "dead" to step into.

[notthisshitagain]

I have no idea as I now regard the tarot template as not only antiquated but redundant in this time. As used as a tool for memorizing colour and sound associations (fixed - "dogmatic"), astrological and planetary attributes, the tarot has its place. It's use as a "fortune telling" device is a gross perversion for a mere alphabet to engage in. In the B.O.T.A course, you have to colour your own tarot keys. There are only three decks worth acquiring; The Rider Waite, The B.O.T.A deck (mail order only from Los Angeles) and the Crowley deck.

You need dedicated students who learn to use the Tarot as a tool to form a psychic altar. The Rider Waite and the B.O.T.A decks provide imagery that is quite easy to remember and visualize. 12 specific trumps are used to form an astrological circle, and the various zodiac symbols and their corresponding planetary attrributes must also be memorized and visualized quite clearly. C'mon...we're not just trying to talk to the living here now are we....An aggregate of consciousness with a specific symbolic language that (hopefully) forms a point of coherence for the "dead" to step into.

Very interesting, thanks for posting that. :)

[torus]

Very interesting, thanks for posting that. :)

You're welcome. I'm spilling "secrets" here folks..

The astrological/12 trump Tarot circle is drawn thus;

It ALWAYS (note "ALWAYS", hence, one of many eventual reasons why I left the occult and my subsequent aversion of all things Tarot. But that's another story) begins with the 4 -Emperor (Aries/Mars) in the East and continuing clock "wise" from there. Get a compass ( yes, a compass...boooooo, scary!) if you don't know where east is in your particular room for Tarot. Ideally, it's ALWAYS in "that" particular room and the deck you use for this circle is not to be touched or seen by anyone but you. Plus, it adds to your mystical mojo!! Just WHAT DOES he do in "that" room. For reasons of psychic integrity, you MUST NOT do readings with it.

Following 4 comes 5 - The Heirophant (Taurus/Venus)

6 - The Lovers (Gemini/Mercury)

and now due South

7 - The Chariot (Cancer/ The Moon)

8- Strength (Leo/Sun)

9- The Hermit (Virgo/Mercury)

and now due West (the "direction" of death....funny, innit)

11- Justice (Libra/Mercury)

13- Death (Scorpio/Mars)

14- Temperance (Sagittarius/Jupiter)

and now due North...to horny goat country...

15- The Devil (Capricorn/Saturn)

17- The Star (Aquarius/Saturn)

18- The Moon (Pisces/Jupiter)

Complete. Stop.

Memorize Trumps, attributes, and learn to use the symbols as the basis of your psychic altar. The Trumps are to be seen glowing vividly and in great detail ( that's what makes Rider/Waite or the B.O.T.A decks "better" for the formation of a magic circle. A longer psychic lineage is associated with these two. Crowley then follows...plus way trippier imagery.) That's tonights FREE TAROT LESSON!!!

Give it away, give it away, give it away now!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[torus]

For obvious reasons, neither The Fool or The Magician are in the 12 card circle. The Fool will be subsequently used to form a triangle with The Hanging Man and The Wheel. You may wish to acquire a mini Rider/Waite deck and use it exclusively for the magic circle. You can use other cards for readings.

For now, form as perfect a circle as you're able. Facing due east and starting at "12", learn to lay the cards from memory as described above. They glow before your minds eYe....as plush carpets of energy. You have to learn to merge with the imagery and give it more "life" in the astral. As you lay the first card, The Emperor, the base is facing you and the top of the card is facing due East. Above the card in the astral glows the ram's head of Aries in a vibrant gold.

And by Christ, that's a militant stance to take....

[twilighterheart]

I feel that the fool is the one that has no ending or beginning. Hence, it being zero and the only card that can end the game. Yes, you can play a card game with the tarot.

[himram abif]

Again I visit this thread to read this.

Do you learn about this stuff in Freemasonry himram abif?


Sorry to disappiont jconnar but I'm not a freemason nor rosicrusian however I'm starting to realise the spirit within me. I use the tarot purely as a medative tool as I am of the opinion that the cards are not a fortune telling device. Many years ago I read Crowley's Book of Thoth and to be honest didn't understand a word of it!! I also make a piont of not reading anything about Tarot cause how can one intuit anything if you have studied it!! Or maybe thats just my way of making sure that inner voice is mine. The passage was written because well...its kinda been with me for a few years and I felt it was time to come out as it were, so thanks very much for the interest

Abif

[twilighterheart]

Sorry to disappiont jconnar but I'm not a freemason nor rosicrusian however I'm starting to realise the spirit within me. I use the tarot purely as a medative tool as I am of the opinion that the cards are not a fortune telling device. Many years ago I read Crowley's Book of Thoth and to be honest didn't understand a word of it!! I also make a piont of not reading anything about Tarot cause how can one intuit anything if you have studied it!! Or maybe thats just my way of making sure that inner voice is mine. The passage was written because well...its kinda been with me for a few years and I felt it was time to come out as it were, so thanks very much for the interest

Abif
I heard Crowley purposely left things out of his writing (even wrote false stuff but I do not support that claim).

[wounded dragon]

Faith starts where reason ends. The fool has as much faith as the magician. The magician understands cause and consequence and as such is master of its effects, but the fool is yet to form an idea. Faith sustains them both as the fool has nothing else, he lives in a world where everything is. The magician in his world full of reasons, needs faith to keep order, or else falls into the pit, for if he has no faith then he becomes the master and for that he will struggle to find a reason and will strive to become the order.


But the fool needs also to be aware. For not yet having understanding or ideas the fool can also be an agent for innocent malevolence. But the fools' faith is short, in time an idea will form and the fool can no longer remain in innocent shape, for the fool must make a choice, the first time faith was pitted against his own reason.


Now the first time that faith and reason met, faith from the heart reason from the head, fear was born to cover both. For reason will always doubt faith, as faith will always undermine reason, so fear will drive both always onward.


To conquer fear is not to be un-afraid, but mearly to bring reason and faith into balance, a unified piont (or a still clear pool). Intention then comes into play. For when reason and faith are balanced, fear quelled, intention is thus revealed. Intention through force of will becomes action.

Reason is to know or understand the action of things.
Faith is to know or understand that there is a reason.
Love is the parent of faith,in its greater part,in its smaller a force of will.


So the fool, yet to know reason, through unknowing faith, be loved and loving. Yet when reason takes him on his journey, his first step will take him the furthest away. Through a maze of many colours will his reason and faith take him, shaping his fears and love, guiding his intent and his will. And so after time, the magician, (for which through mastery of reason and loving faith the fool shall progress to be.) may find himself challenging one of his pillars of being. For surely in the face of questioning reason, faith must surely wither. In time the magician may become tired of asking the eternally foolish question; What is truth?


The magician shall have no more answers if he discards his faith. Fear of reason, love of faith, love of reason, fear of faith oh how the magician will envy the fool, just as the fool looked up to the magician, each thinking the other held all the answers. The mage that discards his faith will in time catch a glimpse of faiths' power, and through his arts be compelled to imitate that which he discarded. Through reasoning away his faith, he diminishes his capacity of love, untill in time; What is truth? becomes Why love?


The magician who keeps his faith, will find the answer to that question and in his being will find reason to exist, for truth is in experience not of experience. So through his experience of loving faith and capacity for reason will he answer; Why love? Love is all there is.


With this answer the mage is no more than fool

The master seeks not to know but to always understand, in this way the master knows nothing for the only thing gauranteed is change... i am still on my path, i believe my shamanic knowings to be the truth to the degree that i must focus on these truths being known, and yet as nothing i know of is certain i must do this in the knowledge that i may be making a mistake so therefore i must act with great caution.....

What is a master without her fool ? (Tao Te Ching)

The master has faith when he has hope, for it is the faith in others realistically averting realistically a disasterous future, the master continues to seek understanding of the reality prior to looking to faith or hope, in this way, faith and hope are naturally and realistically with us when the future aswell as the now will be advantageous for creation, her beings, the male divine and his beings, and, if possible, the two evil forces that destroyed the previous creation....

[wounded dragon]

The Magician card for me is quite a personal one and correlates into my life, unknowingly, at first. I was at quite a low point mentally, struggling to figure out my ambitions, personally and creatively, and i'd been having these epiphanies about life and how i was in control and anything was possible ect, but i just had to act on my instincts and really just go for it. I'd been thinking how everything in life works like magick, to some extent, but i'd lost my focus, had extreme writers block and wasn't as spiritual as i once was. Anyway, i grabbed my old deck of tarot cards, and just for fun, decided to do a spread (can't remember it's name). i read each card, but fobbed them off as i found it inaccurate and a little too cryptic, which is apparently a 'side affect (or effect?)' of reading your own, apparently. So i just shuffled the cards and kept thinking to myself 'this next card represents you, this next card is the future' and pulled out the magician card, read the description (i'm not an expert!) and it was the only card that truly struck a chord with me. For me the card represents being in control of your own life, manifesting, creating, building etc and having some direction, be it in faith, in life or in the arts. Or all combined. The card is number '1', and my life path number in numerology is '1', whichever names i used (i got about 4 different combos) it still came out as '1'. So i've got this card stuck up on my mirror to remind me constantly that my life is worth living, because i know that there is something big waiting just around the corner, i just have to kick myself up the arse to get there! i wouldn't say i'm entirely on track, but i have an idea, and i think the logical thing to do would be to 'manifest' that idea.
(I'm not sure if this relates to the post entirely, but just wanted to share my EXP of The Mage card)

That is all :D

Maori Sacred Knowledge... 'All Comess Together as One'....., perhaps you have a part to play in this occuring (should it eventuate that this prophecy does eventuate) :cool:

[wounded dragon]

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[himram abif]

The master seeks not to know but to always understand, in this way the master knows nothing for the only thing gauranteed is change... i am still on my path, i believe my shamanic knowings to be the truth to the degree that i must focus on these truths being known, and yet as nothing i know of is certain i must do this in the knowledge that i may be making a mistake so therefore i must act with great caution.....

What is a master without her fool ? (Tao Te Ching)

The master has faith when he has hope, for it is the faith in others realistically averting realistically a disasterous future, the master continues to seek understanding of the reality prior to looking to faith or hope, in this way, faith and hope are naturally and realistically with us when the future aswell as the now will be advantageous for creation, her beings, the male divine and his beings, and, if possible, the two evil forces that destroyed the previous creation....

Love with hope results in faith.
Love with faith results in understanding.
Love with understanding results in wisdom.
All is in a state of change for the continuing creation.

My thoughts
Abif

[truepositive]

Amazing OP. Ill drop in with some B5: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[twilighterheart]

Amazing OP. Ill drop in with some B5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDy3BFmzKFg

Yeah, for some Babylon 5!

[wounded dragon]

Amazing OP. Ill drop in with some B5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDy3BFmzKFg

and from where does god source his river ? anyone believe in manifesting, willpower, theivery....... or food perchance

[himram abif]

Amazing OP. Ill drop in with some B5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDy3BFmzKFg


Plato G'kar style lol!!:D

We all crave the answers do we not?

[wounded dragon]

Nice OP.

The fool exist in the realm of formless consciousness, which is being or faith. The magician is a creator of forms and worlds, hence he is wisdom, thought.

The magician also needs to be the fool in order to rise above his creations, to set them aside and be free of them.

yes nice
wise to be a fool for the only thing gauranteed is change and twould be foolish to close the mind with label of known fact as such one never totally achieves wisdom however can be a pretty wise fool

[wounded dragon]

(Sorry if translation is shitty; I got this from "La Vía del Tarot, by Alejandro Jodorowsky; book is in Spanish so I had to translate it to English. :) )

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The Fool

Liberty, great energy


The Fool has a name, but he doesn't have a number. It's the only Major Arcane that is not defined with a number. It represents the original energy without limits, total freedom, disorder, chaos, and also the fundamental creative impulse. In the traditional cards, it gave origin to characters such as The Joker, that can represent all the other cards at will, without fully identifying with any. The key phrase for The Fool would be: "All the paths are my path."

This card gives the impresion of energy: In it the character walks with confidence, his shoes are red, poking the ground with a red stick. But, where is he going? Is he walking in a straight path? It is possible, but we could imagine that he may be spinning, in a neverending fashion, around his red stick. The Fool represents the eternal traveler that walks around the world with no ties nor nationality. Maybe he's a pilgrim, going to a sacred site. Or maybe in the reductive sense that some people give to it, maybe he's walking towards his destruction. If you pick the stronger interpretation, many will see The Fool as a being that is unattached from any need, of any judgement, staying away from any prohibition, a being that has renounced to any demand; an illuminated, a god, a powerful giant in the flux of energy, an unmeasurable liberating force.

always nice to see you