"Reptilian" videos exposed!

[neutron flux]

First up we have this video posted by ArchangelSandalphon whom I assume is part of woghd's crew:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od4aF9_Yy1Y

Now let's look at the original:

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=3FCB9B53A399F932F04D8F424530664C ?contentId=4597187&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Big difference, yes?


Now, who remembers the "reptilian reporter", posted by CanadianVandal - also part of woghd's crew? This is also on the realshapeshifters web site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF6vK1w38nk&feature=related


Now let's look at the original:


http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=2AFB39558B05EDC1A6FF007A07041D1B ?contentId=4473580&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Wow, no shapeshifting!!

Here's another that you can download on the realshapeshifters website, but we'll just get to the original:

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=6712D3CE7F29894255102EBA2302D4DA ?contentId=4609210&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

As you can see, woghd and his crew maybe manipulating videos (although who else is doing this?)to make them look like they're "shape shifting" - and woghd claims to do vigorous "testing" and "analysis" - but they somehow forgot to view the originals - yeah, right!

If these are obvious manipulations, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to think maybe the whole lot are fakes, or in some cases just technical glitches that are then pounced upon to "prove" shape shifting in these people.

[theforce]

As you can see, woghd and his crew are manipulating videos to make them look like they're "shape shifting" - and woghd claims to do vigorous "testing" and "analysis" - but they somehow forgot to view the originals - yeah, right!



As you can see, woghd and his crew are Mabey manipulating videos to make them look like they're "shape shifting" - and woghd claims to do vigorous "testing" and "analysis" - but they somehow forgot to view the originals

You forgot to add this word:)

[neutron flux]

And here's another vid that you can download from realshapeshifters.com with the description:

Robert Olsen is not a shape shifter. There is a difference. He's a reptilian projecting the image of a human. Somehow cameras have been picking up the fequency that allows us to see. This is one of three known videos that appear to show a DISRUPTION of whatever image progection systems these aliens are using. Please watch from start to finish. Notice his skin changing green and his well the scales, notice also the background isnt affected when he moves his head back and forth, it is just him. Notice how the field appears to degrade and expand, slowly in a sphere shape.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=iZIyVrXPxEA

Now here's the original:

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=F45BCC60B641769FB1A396D134A460D4 ?contentId=4329635&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

[theforce]

And here's another vid that you can download from realshapeshifters.com with the description:



http://youtube.com/watch?v=iZIyVrXPxEA

Now here's the original:

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=F45BCC60B641769FB1A396D134A460D4 ?contentId=4329635&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

How easy was it to get the original and how did you get them...?

[neutron flux]

How easy was it to get the original and how did you get them...?

It was very easy. I noticed the vids usually had a website address such as myfoxla.com. I then just went to the address and typed in search words relating to the news item contained in the vids and there they were. ;)

[neutron flux]

Here's another you can download at realshapeshifters.com that shows a "reptilian entity" at 3 minutes 13 seconds in. Spooooky!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSoCTVkgSHQ


Oh wait a minute....

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4410686&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[teslafire]

Great!

Can we now ban this fucker woghd who is a painfully obvious disinfo merchant, aiming to discredit the reality of reptilians a la Brandon Corey....?

For Icke's sake man, grow a brain admins.....

[theforce]

Great!

Can we now ban this fucker woghd who is a painfully obvious disinfo merchant, aiming to discredit the reality of reptilians a la Brandon Corey....?

For Icke's sake man, grow a brain admins.....

Why should we ban him?

[teslafire]

Old age gettin to ya yoda?

How about I start intentionally posting false information, knowingly and demonstrably, and shouting it as truth.

Egypt is Australia, and I will sing it in every thread, post several topics about it and when people tell me I'm just flat wrong or stupid, I will accuse them of making personal attacks on me.

Sound like fun?

[greenleaf]

I happen to have some beliefs in the reptilian history and think there is a strong possibility they are living amongst us and interbred too, But I have to say, all this is disinformation and does more harm than good especially for a truthseeking site like this one. Claiming these to be real, when they are quite obviously not, is making the subject/topic ridiculed in a way. I am not suggesting any of the people claimed to be reptillian are not so, just after thousands of years of practice, do you think they are going to slip up so easily as to do it in public rather than at an actual ritual were it would be expected.

These people may think they are helping get a message out about the realities of this planet, but they are (whether intentional or not) helping the actual Reptilian keep this subject in the 'out there' zone rather than the mainstream by posting more and more disinfomation.

Is it too much to ask for information investigaters to do some research into authenticity of the material they pick up....or at least the Moderaters should filter out what should obviously be in the 'Have A Laugh' section of the forum.

[woghd]

You people really need to do your research before tossing out accusations. This topic has already been covered in...like...three other threads.

Also Archangelsandalphon is NOT "part of my crew" as you put it. Neither am I responsible for any of the videos you just posted up.

But here's the kicker, and had you bothered to do research, you'd know this. It only happens with FOX video, Don't watch it directly...download it.

VOILA!

The shapeshifting appears! AND ITS STRAIGHT FROM FOX!

Now go back and think of some other way to attack me.
Archangel

[neutron flux]

Also Archangelsandalphon is NOT "part of my crew" as you put it.

Fair enough, it's just a coincidence that a person producing these videos has archangel in his name.

Neither am I responsible for any of the videos you just posted up.


Yet your site posts these videos and you are part of realshapeshifters.com - so you are responsible for promoting these vids.

But here's the kicker, and had you bothered to do research, you'd know this. It only happens with FOX video, Don't watch it directly...download it.

VOILA!

The shapeshifting appears!


That's a lie because I downloaded the "reptile reporter" vid from myfoxla.com and it comes out exactly the same as it presented on the site. I can post this for download if anyone is interested.

Now go back and think of some other way to attack me.


You can play the victim all you want, the bottom line is: realshapeshifters.com is one big lie.

[woghd]

That's a lie because I downloaded the "reptile reporter" vid from myfoxla.com and it comes out exactly the same as it presented on the site. I can post this for download if anyone is interested.


You either did it wrong, or you realize you have painted yourself into a corner and are straight up lying, or are in some other way mistaken. This is something like the 3rd or 4th thread like this, and it's well established that if you download the vids rather than watching the stream, the shifting (or whatever it is) appears. Anyone reading this can verify it.

At any rate, none of these videos are mine.
Go back and try to find some other way to attack me.

Archangel

[neutron flux]

You either did it wrong, or you realize you have painted yourself into a corner and are straight up lying, or are in some other way mistaken. This is something like the 3rd or 4th thread like this, and it's well established that if you download the vids rather than watching the stream, the shifting or whatever it is appears.


Just for you woghd, I uploaded my downloaded vid for people to see that even when you download the vid no shapeshifting occurs.

http://www.mediafire.com/?bn1no1y9n5z

Go find another way to fool people. ;)

[woghd]

Just for you woghd, I uploaded my downloaded vid for people to see that even when you download the vid no shapeshifting occurs.

http://www.mediafire.com/?bn1no1y9n5z



I think, all things considered, it's best if people download their own videos, and see for themselves.

Archangel

[irak]

sorry but no shape shifting in downloaded videos.. its just in the quality of flash player or/and codecs and encoding of videos you have on your computer :)

..but what if the fox network saw your page and corrected their videos - OMG the fox network is attacking you! :)

catching a shapeshifter on a photo now that might be more interesting - and its easy to do with a photoshop(i wanna cut if you decide to take my idea)..

[woghd]

sorry but no shape shifting in downloaded videos.. its just in the quality of flash player or/and codecs and encoding of videos you have on your computer :)

..but what if the fox network saw your page and corrected their videos - OMG the fox network is attacking you! :)

catching a shapeshifter on a photo now that might be more interesting - and its easy to do with a photoshop(i wanna cut if you decide to take my idea)..

Which video did you download? And how much did it change?
I'd like to point out AGAIN that NONE OF THESE ARE MY VIDEOS...Because people keep trying to make it sound like I'm faking videos and stuff. So it would be pretty silly for Fox network to have any problem with ME.

I encourage those interested to DL the videos for themselves so you can see that whatever the problem is, shapeshifting, codec, or whatever, it comes from FOX and not somebody tampering with the video.

Archangel

[woghd]

I'm appalled at the lengths some people will go to smear me.
These are not even my videos. Do you hate me that much?
You guys are the ones trying to run a character assassination.
You guys are the ones spreading disinfo. (about me).
I'll say again: THESE ARE NOT EVEN MY VIDEOS.

It would also be nice if somebody would make an apology for saying I faked videos and asking that I be banned as disinfo, but I doubt if that will happen. That would require integrity.

Archangel

[neutron flux]

I'm appalled at the lengths some people will go to smear me.
These are not even my videos. Do you hate me that much?
You guys are the ones trying to run a character assassination.
You guys are the ones spreading disinfo. (about me).
I'll say again: THESE ARE NOT EVEN MY VIDEOS.

It would also be nice if somebody would make an apology for saying I faked videos and asking that I be banned as disinfo, but I doubt if that will happen. That would require integrity.


Once again you fall on the victim tactic in order to gain some sort of sympathy vote (after you try to distract and lie)

Let's make this clear: YOU are part of realshapeshifters.com, YOU promote these videos as "evidence" when it's plain as day they are perfect quality in the originals. I have downloaded one (I'll do the others later) and found no glitches in the quality and have posted the results for all to see.

All this thread is really about is revealing the truth of these bogus videos, most of which stem back to your team, which makes you complicit in the spread of lies by simply being associated with fraudsters and promoting them, whether you had a hand in making them or not.

[neutron flux]

Here's another video that I've downloaded off myfoxtwincities.com of the 911 tribute with Rob Olsen:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bkyjmc1zztn

As you can see there is no glitches or shape-shifting that is claimed by Hashemsfilms, a member of woghd's team.

[woghd]

Here's another video that I've downloaded off myfoxtwincities.com of the 911 tribute with Rob Olsen:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bkyjmc1zztn

As you can see there is no glitches or shape-shifting that is claimed by Hashemsfilms, a member of woghd's team.

A) Hashemsfilms is not part of "my team", everyone is responsible for their own videos.
B) when I download the vid from FOX (and not your site) the glitches are right there. So you've debunked nothing.
C) IT'S NOT MY VIDEO!

Is this the best you can do? 5 times now you've called me a fraud, because of SOMEBODY ELSES video! Are you that desperate?

Archangel

[neutron flux]

So you have no input for the content of realshapeshifters? So you're the small fry of the group. Maybe you could get the big boys in to explain then.

B) when I download the vid from FOX (and not your site) the glitches are right there. So you've debunked nothing.

It's not my site, it's a public hosting service that anyone can use. I'll upload them anywhere you want - it won't detract from the fact you're lying.

) IT'S NOT MY VIDEO!

I know, that's why I mentioned your partner Hashemsfilms.

Is this the best you can do? 5 times now you've called me a fraud, because of SOMEBODY ELSES video! Are you that desperate?

I'm merely providing the evidence that the site you are affiliated with, i.e. realshapeshifters.com, is in fact full of fake reptilian videos.

[woghd]

So you have no input for the content of realshapeshifters? So you're the small fry of the group. Maybe you could get the big boys in to explain then.

"The Big Boys"? Now this makes sense, Alan Watt talks like that. Nowonder you are trying to smear me with videos I never even made!

It's not my site, it's a public hosting service that anyone can use. I'll upload them anywhere you want - it won't detract from the fact you're lying.

Anyone who ignores your "special" upload and gets the video direct from FOX will see who's lying. Why do you keep insisting people look at YOUR version, hmmmmmmmmm?

I know, that's why I mentioned your partner Hashemsfilms.

You can't even debunk THEM, yet you are trying to smear me because I KNOW them?

I'm merely providing the evidence that the site you are affiliated with, i.e. realshapeshifters.com, is in fact full of fake reptilian videos.

Seeing as how you have yet to debunk a single video, and seeing as how none of your weak attempts are on ANY of MY videos, I'd say you should quit your smear campaign and stick to the facts.

Archangel

[neutron flux]

"The Big Boys"? Now this makes sense, Alan Watt talks like that. Nowonder you are trying to smear me with videos I never even made!

I used the term "big boys" to denote the fact that you have no control or say for that matter to the web site and the others are obviously above you in terms of control of the video content of the site. Why you are trying to associate me with Alan Watt is really quite bizarre.

Anyone who ignores your "special" upload and gets the video direct from FOX will see who's lying. Why do you keep insisting people look at YOUR version, hmmmmmmmmm?

My video was downloaded directly from myfoxla.com and myfoxtwincities.com and is not "special" in any way. I'm providing a download link for others to view as you claim that to download direct from these sites causes glitches that your partners claim are "evidence" of shape-shifting. Nothing could be further from the truth.

People can feel free to download from these sites at their leisure. I'm not stopping them.

You can't even debunk THEM, yet you are trying to smear me because I KNOW them?Seeing as how you have yet to debunk a single video, and seeing as how none of your weak attempts are on ANY of MY videos, I'd say you should quit your smear campaign and stick to the facts.

Deary me woghd, have you not noticed the originals? You know, the ones without the "shapeshifting" - your friends videos are pretty much debunked as fakes from where I'm standing. To state otherwise is rather asinine.

I'm speaking to you because your friends aren't here, otherwise I would refrain from communicating in this rather circular fashion where I show bullet-proof evidence of realshapeshifter.com videos as fakes and then you claim some sort of "smear" campaign is in effect.

[woghd]

My video was downloaded directly from myfoxla.com and myfoxtwincities.com and is not "special" in any way. I'm providing a download link for others to view as you claim that to download direct from these sites causes glitches that your partners claim are "evidence" of shape-shifting. Nothing could be further from the truth.

People can feel free to download from these sites at their leisure. I'm not stopping them.

And I encourage EVERYONE to watch the shapeshifting when downloaded directly from FOX, and avoid your ever so helpful link... It's always best when people are allowed to think for themselves without you being so...er...helpful...by so generously providing a bogus link.

Deary me woghd, have you not noticed the originals? You know, the ones without the "shapeshifting" - your friends videos are pretty much debunked as fakes from where I'm standing. To state otherwise is rather asinine.

Both versions come directly from FOX. So how is anything debunked? And I want to stress again, take it up with THEM not ME.

I'm speaking to you because your friends aren't here, otherwise I would refrain from communicating in this rather circular fashion where I show bullet-proof evidence of realshapeshifter.com videos as fakes and then you claim some sort of "smear" campaign is in effect.
You evidence couldn't stop a nerf-ball let alone a bullet. You have debunked nothing, and been caught trying to send people to YOUR OWN video. It is YOU who is debunked. As for smear campaign, how about you take this up with the people who made these videos, I'm sure they will be all to happy to debunk you even worse than I can. Afterall, you are the one trying to smear me with videos I didn't even make, and directing traffic to your OWN BOGUS VIDEO.

You haven't exposed or debunked a damn thing.
Now if you aren't running a smear campaign against me, leave me out of it,
and take it up with the people who made the videos. jeeez.

Archangel

[neutron flux]

And I encourage EVERYONE to watch the shapeshifting when downloaded directly from FOX, and avoid your ever so helpful link... It's always best when people are allowed to think for themselves without you being so...er...helpful...by so generously providing a bogus link.

How are my links bogus? I tested your theory and uploaded the results of my tests. Where else am I going to download the news piece other than directly from myfoxla.com and myfoxtwincities.com? Trying to deflect attention from your friends fake videos are you?

Both versions come directly from FOX. So how is anything debunked? And I want to stress again, take it up with THEM not ME.

They're not here. You are. And as a representative of realshapeshifters.com you should be able to more than adequately explain your friends videos even if you are at the lower end of the hierarchy.

You evidence couldn't stop a nerf-ball let alone a bullet. You have debunked nothing, and been caught trying to send people to YOUR OWN video.

I haven't been "caught" at anything! The links I've provided are my results for people to see so they can then do their own research and cross-reference.

It is YOU who is debunked.

I don't go around providing "evidence" of certain people shape-shifting with fake videos. You do.

As for smear campaign, how about you take this up with the people who made these videos, I'm sure they will be all to happy to debunk you even worse than I can.

Bring them here then.

Afterall, you are the one trying to smear me with videos I didn't even make, and directing traffic to your OWN BOGUS VIDEO.


Am I the only one getting the sense you are accusing me of the very behaviour you have been exhibiting? I gain nothing from anyone looking at my downloaded videos as mediafire.com is a file hosting site in order to share files like rapidshare.com and megaupload.com to name but a few.

You on the other hand have everything to gain from directing traffic to a web site to gain advertising revenue as but one possible reason.

Who benefits? Certainly not me.

I don't see even how I could even create the videos I've uploaded.:confused:

You haven't exposed or debunked a damn thing.
Now if you aren't running a smear campaign against me, leave me out of it,
and take it up with the people who made the videos. jeeez.

Let's look at the FACTS:

1. The original broadcast contained no "glitches" or evidence of "shape-shifting"

2. The videos on myfoxla.com and myfoxtwincities.com contained no "glitches" or "shape-shifting"

3. The videos I downloaded contained no "glitches" or "shape-shifting"

Those are verifiable FACTS.

[woghd]

Let's look at the FACTS:

1. The original broadcast contained no "glitches" or evidence of "shape-shifting"

This is not a fact it is a lie. You keep bypassing the fact that you have to download the video, rather than just watch it on the FOX viewer.

2. The videos on myfoxla.com and myfoxtwincities.com contained no "glitches" or "shape-shifting"

The way you tried to show it, yes. But again, there are TWO versions on fox, and I've explained that you need to use your downloader to get the shifty version. You keep trying to hide that.

3. The videos I downloaded contained no "glitches" or "shape-shifting"

Oh yes, your re-compiled version that you tried to direct traffic to, and even succeeded in hoodwinking a few people, until I explained that your video is bogus, and people should download directly from FOX. Basically you lied and got caught.

Those are verifiable FACTS.

I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD DIRECTLY FROM FOX AND NOT LISTEN TO YOUR LIES.

You've been trying to smear me from the get-go, and these are not even MY videos, yet you insist on portraying them as mine somehow. I never even heard of some of these videos until you brought them up! So stop trying to desperately connect them to me, THEY AREN'T MINE.

For god's sakes you're stalkerish!

FACT: You've debunked nothing.
FACT: You've been lying about the origins of the videos.
FACT: You've been soundly debunked
FACT: You've been caught trying to direct traffic to a bogus video, so people can't see for themselves..
FACT: You seem fixated on me and it's getting a little spooky.

Bottom line is that the videos aren't even mine, but feel free to keep harassing me about them, it just shows how obsessed you are with me.
If you continue harrassing me over videos I have no control over, I'll begin reporting your stalking to the mods.

Archangel

[neutron flux]

This is not a fact it is a lie. You keep bypassing the fact that you have to download the video, rather than just watch it on the FOX viewer.

I've done both. The video is from the original broadcast - no glitches there!

he way you tried to show it, yes. But again, there are TWO versions on fox, and I've explained that you need to use your downloader to get the shifty version. You keep trying to hide that.

I'm not trying to hide anything, the other forum members are not idiots and I'm sure know what to do. As for the shifty version they can download it here: www.realshapeshifters.com

Oh yes, your re-compiled version that you tried to direct traffic to, and even succeeded in hoodwinking a few people, until I explained that your video is bogus, and people should download directly from FOX. Basically you lied and got caught.

I didn't lie at all. I downloaded it and uploaded it to a site to prove I had done such a thing and add to the data. How can I "re-compile" a video? What does that even mean?

You've been trying to smear me from the get-go, and these are not even MY videos, yet you insist on portraying them as mine somehow.

No, I've used your masters names such as CanadianVandal and Hashemsfilms and made it quite clear. My replies are only aimed at you because you are their representative here.

I never even heard of some of these videos until you brought them up!

They are from realshapeshifters.com except for the very first one produced by another "archangel" (just a coincidence)

For god's sakes you're stalkerish!

FACT: You've debunked nothing.
FACT: You've been lying about the origins of the videos.
FACT: You've been soundly debunked
FACT: You've been caught trying to direct traffic to a bogus video, so people can't see for themselves..
FACT: You seem fixated on me and it's getting a little spooky.

Bottom line is that the videos aren't even mine, but feel free to keep harassing me about them, it just shows how obsessed you are with me.
If you continue harrassing me over videos I have no control over, I'll begin reporting your stalking to the mods.

Stop replying to my thread then. Report me if you wish. You seem to be engaging in psychological tactics that are very transparent.

[woghd]

I've done both. The video is from the original broadcast - no glitches there!

Yeah, as if your word was good enough. Since you cannot be believed. It's best if people download the videos from FOX themselves.

I'm not trying to hide anything, the other forum members are not idiots and I'm sure know what to do. As for the shifty version they can download it here: www.realshapeshifters.com

NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING?
You already got busted for trying to redirect traffic to your own bunk video. Now you are putting realshapeshifters.com up. WHAT IS YOUR AVERSION TO LETTING PEOPLE GO TO FOX AND DOWNLOADING THE TWO VIDEOS FOR THEMSELVES????
I didn't lie at all. I downloaded it and uploaded it to a site to prove I had done such a thing and add to the data. How can I "re-compile" a video? What does that even mean?

OF COURSE YOU LIED. What's more, anybody can go to FOX and see that you lied. All they have to do is ignore the fox viewer and download the video for themselves, which is why you keep diverting that little point.
No, I've used your masters names such as CanadianVandal and Hashemsfilms and made it quite clear. My replies are only aimed at you because you are their representative here.

MY MASTERS??? THEIR REPRESENTATIVE??? Where do you think this stuff up???
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are really twisted. You got caught faking a "debunking" and now you are falling apart at the seams.

Report me if you wish. You seem to be engaging in psychological tactics that are very transparent.

Oh yeah...uh-huh...hrm...ok...I'll get right on that.

You've been trying to beat me up about these videos and you have yet to debunk a single damn thing, and on top of everything else, the videos are not even mine. I didn't make them. I'm not responsible for them.
Can you get it through your head?
Archangel

[neutron flux]

Yeah, as if your word was good enough. Since you cannot be believed. It's best if people download the videos from FOX themselves.

I couldn't care less if people believe me or not, I don't have a web site with fake shape-shifting videos. You do.

OT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING?
You already got busted for trying to redirect traffic to your own bunk video. Now you are putting realshapeshifters.com up. WHAT IS YOUR AVERSION TO LETTING PEOPLE GO TO FOX AND DOWNLOADING THE TWO VIDEOS FOR THEMSELVES????

I've already explained why I uploaded the video and have no aversion to people downloading the videos - I did after all give people links to the originals in the first place.

MY MASTERS???
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are really twisted. You got caught faking a "debunking" and now you are falling apart at the seams.

I didn't know what else to call them - your superiors? They are obviously above you because you have no say in the video content of your site.

Oh yeah...uh-huh...hrm...ok...I'll get right on that.

You've been trying to beat me up about these videos and you have yet to debunk a single damn thing, and on top of everything else, the videos are not even mine. I didn't make them. I'm not responsible for them.
Can you get it through your head?

You've made it quite clear like a screaming child that the videos were not created by you.

I'll let the people of the forum make up their own mind whether these videos contain evidence of shape-shifting based on the data presented.

[woghd]

I couldn't care less if people believe me or not, I don't have a web site with fake shape-shifting videos. You do.

That's good because now that you've been soundly debunked, nobody will. As for fake shapeshifting videos, you obviously haven't proven that.

I've already explained why I uploaded the video and have no aversion to people downloading the videos - I did after all give people links to the originals in the first place.

Hahahahaha. You gave the links to the FOX viewer, not explained how to download the different versions. Still you are trying to misdirect people to the wrong material, shame on you. Keep digging your hole tho.

I didn't know what else to call them - your superiors? They are obviously above you because you have no say in the video content of your site.

More lies. The truth is that you were trying to bait me, and still are. Shapeshifters.com is a free website where peole may upload shapeshifter videos. ANYBODY can upload video, even you. We chip-in the money for the server costs out of our own pockets. We are responsible for our own videos and nobody elses. We make no money via advertising or in any other way. Stop trying to take a community service and making it sound like a conspiracy.

You've made it quite clear like a screaming child that the videos were not created by you.

Still trying to bait me? All I did was point out that the videos do not belong to me, I didn't make them, and I'm not responsible for them, so don't accuse me of shit like you did in your VERY FIRST POST.

I'll let the people of the forum make up their own mind whether these videos contain evidence of shape-shifting based on the data presented.

That would be a first.
Everytime I try to get people to download the videos for themselves and see what a total liar you are, you manage to obscure it. And since you didn't provide the link, I WILL.

http://myfoxla.com and from http://myfoxtwincities.com

If anyone is still confused because of this disinfo, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtUvVAxY0U

...and follow the instructions in the info in the right


Archangel