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richmick
05-03-2007, 03:41 PM
Britain is moving deeper and deeper into a fascist society, controlled, bullied and run by evil dictators and the big banks... R.I.P. U.K.:(
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=440030&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments
lottie
06-03-2007, 12:55 AM
shocking!!! the whole agenda is certainly gathering pace at an alarming rate!:eek:
misscpb
06-03-2007, 01:08 AM
I kept thinking of the problem, reaction solution that David is always talking about. You only have to see on the television all the buy now pay later credit, loan offers and the interest free credit cards for so many months that we have been bombarded with for the past few years. Most peoples debts are spiralling out of control, and thats probably just the way they want it.
So it was no surprise to read the link to the post you gave here. Thank you for your post.
richmick
06-03-2007, 01:34 AM
It is shocking. Those baliffs should be issued jackboots. I too have noticed how on t.v. and radio, loans companys offering loans to people with bad credit and ccj's. People have been encouraged to think for today and let tomorrow worry about itself, there's plenty of money to go around. Add to that booming house prices and hefty mortgages, with added taxes here and there, possibly road charges etc etc. How can people keep going without working 7 days a week, 24 hours a day to keep afloat.
Now it's payback time, the hawks are out and circling their prey. If the economy faulters and jobs lost, house prices fall, there will be chaos in england, and the jackbooted morons will be kicking in many doors.
look what's happened with the dollar this week, falling heavily. If the u.s, economy faulters then so will ours as a knock on effect. The agenda appears to be in full swing. Whilst the Blairs are rewarded with much help from the rothchilds and murdoch. A job well done:( :mad:
pedsi
06-03-2007, 12:58 PM
Britain is moving deeper and deeper into a fascist society, controlled, bullied and run by evil dictators and the big banks... R.I.P. U.K.:(
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=440030&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments
And no doubt they will be able to drag people from their homes when they can't keep up the mortgage repayments
albie
06-03-2007, 02:25 PM
Pah! A law that only effects criminals.
Get into debt, pay the price. You know a lot of these people have no intention of paying their loans back.:cool:
richmick
06-03-2007, 02:39 PM
Pah! A law that only effects criminals.
Get into debt, pay the price. You know a lot of these people have no intention of paying their loans back.:cool:
wow, i had 'suspected' debt before and i had the baliffs after me. I owed £90 they said and the baliffs where charging me £250. So i was a criminal was i, hmmmmm what an obsurd generalisation. It was a mistake as it turned out and it took months for me to sort it out. People get into debt for many different reasons, partners leaving, divorce, child maintenance, single parents, high electric/gas bills, taxes taxes taxes, businness shortfalls etc etc etc. Your ok then, thumbs up, bully for you that you can be so flippant with your comments.
Just lets hope you never hit hard time eh. :eek: :D
albie
06-03-2007, 03:00 PM
There's bound to be a few who are innocent. No law is perfect. Not even god's law.
Most have plenty of time to contact their banks and arrange to pay it off slowly.
They don't.
Because they have no intention, and never did.
Thieves.
albie
06-03-2007, 03:00 PM
And think about it. If this stops people taking out loans, then that's affecting the banks, making them lose money.
So where's the conspiracy?
wizard
06-03-2007, 03:17 PM
I received a letter from my building society with a failed item, a direct debit of just £13. They have issued a charge of £39 on top which i am not going to pay. This is nothing short of legalised mugging. I have stopped the debit and changed my account to another branch. I know this is going to spiral out of control but i refuse to pay a fictional debt. The £13 by the way is for water charges which will be paid. I know this may sound petty of me, but i only have £30 a week for food.I wont be surprised to receive further letters and fictional charges and eventually the bailiffs for some ridiculous amount.:confused:
lottie
06-03-2007, 03:48 PM
Im sure this won't apply to some of you- (if you arn't in the UK) but i am in the process of reclaiming 6yrs worth of illegal bank charges- the law states that banks can only charge you for eg; going over-drawn or unpaid direct debits etc - 'proportionately'! They have been illegally chargeing us for god-knows how long- it all comes down to the fact that it doesn't cost the bank £30.00 if they have to deal with a missed payment or going overdrawn, when asked how much at the most it would cost for the bank to deal with this the banks have had to admit that usually all transactions are dealt with via computers so the cost is nothing but in the unlikely circumstance that a transactiion required a manual intervention by a member of staff the most it would cost would be around £4.50!! So they have been charging us illegally! It is perfectly legal to reclaim these charges going back to the last 6yrs of your banking history- and the law also states that you are entitled to charge the banks 8% interest on top of our final amount!! All you need to do is send them a letter stating that you want the last 6yrs of statements which you can get under the data protection act- (£10.00-re-imbursable) and then when you get it back- add up all your charges you think are unfair/diosproportionate and then write back demanding they pay it back- they have 40 days to comply or you can take them to court- which they wont do because at the moment they are only paying those back who know about this loophole- if they take it to court- the courts will rule they have acted illegally and demand they back back the entire banking customers all their monies!! Give it a go- if you need help- go to martin lewis @ moneyexpert.com and they have templates for all the letters so you can just print them out and fill in your own name etc! They have had a huge response to this and i have just recieved a letter to say that they cant cope with the amount of claims and i wont get my data protection requests within the 40 days so i have given them a further 7 days (coz im nice like that ) then im gonna stick a rocket up their asses!! its not my fault they acted illegally- thats what happens- it all comes back on them in the end!! So far the banks have already paid out £200million in charges and continue to do so as they have no choice- cant wait for mine to come back- ive had loads of charges, im claiming charges back on 2 credit cards and one bank account!! Good Luck if you do do it- i'll keep you posted on the result!! THEY ARE THE THIEVES!!! :D
wizard
06-03-2007, 03:55 PM
Cheers Lottie. It is not worth the effort for me as this is the first time it has happened, i am generally very careful as i know what robbing bastards they are. I just slipped up last month i will only have been short a few quid. They can chase me till 2012 and beyond but they wont get a penny:D
lottie
06-03-2007, 04:02 PM
Well buddy- if someone went down to your bank account and 'took' £20.00 would you still feel the same??!! Its still theft- £2.00 or £2,000!!! Claim whats yours- be petty- they'd do the same to you without a second thought- and have been doing so for the last however many years!! This is all helping us take back our power and at the same time we are bringing down the banking systems (on a very small sale) but it all helps in the grand scheme of things- its all got to topple!! Money is worthless really its all debt, its all illusiory, but even so we are trapped in it at present so im claiming what they STOLE from me!! I know it doesnt seem worth it but do it man- they need to be shown!! :D
wizard
06-03-2007, 04:06 PM
They didn"t get it. they were going to take it out this coming thursday, but i have now stopped the debit, and my benefits will be paid into another account.
lottie
06-03-2007, 04:09 PM
:D ;)
richmick
06-03-2007, 05:06 PM
I requested my bank charges to be repayed to me, yesterday. I didn't know there was a template to fill in. I just emailed the Bank asking them to look into my account and to repay me any illegal charges. I have'nt had a reply yet. :(
albie
06-03-2007, 05:27 PM
Don't have these complicated accounts. Get a debit account like me. No charges at all.
I don't play their games.
siliconpsychosis
06-03-2007, 09:09 PM
Wizard, there has been a lot of talk lately regarding the excessive overdraft charges forced upon us by the banks. Many regard this is blatant theft and there are currently thousands of people everyday contesting charges such as those imposed on yourself. You can find a draft letter at www.thisismoney.co.uk amongst other places. Apparently the banks have conceded on every single case so far.
Give it a go. You have nothing to lose. You will win and they will reimburse the 35 squid.
I requested my bank charges to be repayed to me, yesterday. I didn't know there was a template to fill in. I just emailed the Bank asking them to look into my account and to repay me any illegal charges. I have'nt had a reply yet. :(
Hi,
I'm afraid that emailing wont do - they'll ignore it. You must write to them (you can use the template at www.thisismoney.co.uk)
Good luck
graflok
07-03-2007, 12:01 AM
There's a very good documentary called "The Secret History of Credit Cards." It is given as a USA perspective.
You can watch it here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/credit/
Click on "Watch the full program online"
It may also be available on YouTube.
The shocking thing (to me) is that the CC companies can legally change their interest rates and terms at any time to anything they want. And, being late with one card can trigger higher rates on one's other cards, etc.
graflok
misscpb
08-03-2007, 01:08 AM
wow, i had 'suspected' debt before and i had the baliffs after me. I owed £90 they said and the baliffs where charging me £250. So i was a criminal was i, hmmmmm what an obsurd generalisation. It was a mistake as it turned out and it took months for me to sort it out. People get into debt for many different reasons, partners leaving, divorce, child maintenance, single parents, high electric/gas bills, taxes taxes taxes, businness shortfalls etc etc etc. Your ok then, thumbs up, bully for you that you can be so flippant with your comments.
Just lets hope you never hit hard time eh. :eek: :D
What a huge baliff charge! Yes I agree with you very much that people get into debt for a variety of reasons and who the hell are people to judge as we all have various difficulties in life that we are faced with. There is an answer and a way out to most things, its just the added stress and pressure that people face that makes things difficult.
Take Care
Pah! A law that only effects criminals.
Get into debt, pay the price. You know a lot of these people have no intention of paying their loans back.:cool:
Wow! Albie. That is a rather insensitive statement.
SOME may be that way but not all. People do lose ther jobs, people do get sick as do their loved ones. There are many reasons why people fall behind in payments.
Mine was that I had a major car accident that put me in hospital for four months and unable to work for a lot longer than that. Sure when I was able, I applied for sickness benefit. That was around 25% of my normal income. Yes, I got a payout....eventually but then I had to pay back what I had been paid in sickness benefit. I also had to pay my solicitor and I had to pay tax on it. Believe me there was not enough left to pay finance companies as well as provide immediate needs until well enough to return to work. I don't believe that makes me a criminal. I didn't let it make me a victim either even though I lost everything material and still owed money to banks. I was however treated like a criminal by these very sensitive :rolleyes: organisations.
richmick
08-03-2007, 01:29 AM
What a huge baliff charge! Yes I agree with you very much that people get into debt for a variety of reasons and who the hell are people to judge as we all have various difficulties in life that we are faced with. There is an answer and a way out to most things, its just the added stress and pressure that people face that makes things difficult.
Take Care
Cheers misscpd. If your a member of holmes places, and get sick, dont phone them to let them know you wont be using the gym for a long time, write to them. Because if you dont, regardless of the obvious fact you haven't used the gym for a few months, it should register as a swipe in, they will hunt you down. Their admin people are bloody rude and dont give a damn. The letters keep coming, then the baliffs start threatening you. This happened when i lived in london, i'm living in merseyside now. But no doubt, my old address is still getting threatening letters, even though they said it was sorted. People just dont care anymore lol, what a world.:)
dondaz
08-03-2007, 03:32 AM
Watch Irene Gravenhorst take on all bailifs working for the bankers!
The police are also involved and so are some insidious characters who really try to con the home out of Irenes' hands.
This is well worth watching. Watch how Irene turns this around on the credit union, bailifs and bankers!
Why this isnt in one complete film I don't know?
My heart went out to this woman.
Inspiring stuff people!
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=choosing+freedom
Darren
multiverse
08-03-2007, 05:16 AM
There's bound to be a few who are innocent. No law is perfect. Not even god's law.
Most have plenty of time to contact their banks and arrange to pay it off slowly.
They don't.
Because they have no intention, and never did.
Thieves.
Do you work for a bank? Are you a banker? :confused: Could be your true calling!
i am all i am
08-03-2007, 07:23 AM
There's bound to be a few who are innocent. No law is perfect. Not even god's law.
Most have plenty of time to contact their banks and arrange to pay it off slowly.
They don't.
Because they have no intention, and never did.
Thieves.
Money is merely a 'promisary note'.
How can you steal a promise ?
With LOVE.
_________________________________
WHEN PAIRED OPPOSIES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.
john white
08-03-2007, 10:55 AM
Cheers misscpd. If your a member of holmes places, and get sick, dont phone them to let them know you wont be using the gym for a long time, write to them. Because if you dont, regardless of the obvious fact you haven't used the gym for a few months, it should register as a swipe in, they will hunt you down. Their admin people are bloody rude and dont give a damn. The letters keep coming, then the baliffs start threatening you. This happened when i lived in london, i'm living in merseyside now. But no doubt, my old address is still getting threatening letters, even though they said it was sorted. People just dont care anymore lol, what a world.:)
Essentially, a Gym membership can be a form of extortion
unicorn
08-03-2007, 11:03 AM
I say everyone STOP paying back their loans & credit cards together & let's sink these corporate arseholes. The whole idea of loans & credit cards was a deliberate zionist ploy to enslave people & make the illuminati richer. One recent debt report on TV said that the yearly profit from debt charges is £4 billion. It didn't say if that was global or national (UK), but come on guys, the banks are robbing us blind!
The meaning of life is not paying back the bank who would gladly have the shirt off your back, all people in debt have been used & misled under the promise of 'we're here to help you with your finances'.... Fucking Virgin credit card has gone up from 12% apr to 29.9% in one year... who's interests are they looking after, & at who's expense? The longer people keep paying these collosal institutions that are ruling the world, the longer we keep them in power. Debt stops people thinking about the meaning of their lives, stops creativity, instills fear, victimhood, powerlessness, guilt, shame... WE ARE GOD, not the banks. The longer we allow ourselves to be their slaves, the longer the corruption goes on. If everyone stopped paying the banks together, it'd be the end of them in one fell swoop! (like when UK people banned buying petrol on Wednesdays & immediately the price went down, until we fell into victimhood again... yawn yawn...). It just takes balls & unity, now how easy is that? :)
Recent news on bailiffs who are being given the power to seize goods now not just on behalf of the government, but also for the banks. :mad:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/05032007/140/bailiffs-new-powers-grab-goods.html
phoenixchilde
09-03-2007, 12:49 AM
I'm confused about this. First all, what does Bailiff mean in the UK? In Canada, a Bailiff is the title given to the guy who brings people from the jail into the courtroom to stand trial.
And pardon my ignorance, but what's the problem if they only go after people who don't pay their bills? Already the police will get involved if you refuse to pay them, the only added problem is someone breaking down your door, and that's only IF you don't pay your bills. What's the big deal?
llogun
09-03-2007, 10:08 AM
A few years ago, i was on the dole and single and was getting £50 aweek.
I then got married but i did not tell the dole plus i didnt no you had to. 10 weeks went by and i got a letter from the dole saying they were stopping my money and that i owed them £500 back pay because i did not tell them i was married. if i had sent a letter in to the dole and told them i was getting married they would have type a few words on there computer saying im getting married from single to married and i still would of got my money because i didnt tell them i had to pay the money back. The systems a joke, im glad i know how this world ticks now.
unicorn
09-03-2007, 06:29 PM
I'm confused about this. First all, what does Bailiff mean in the UK? In Canada, a Bailiff is the title given to the guy who brings people from the jail into the courtroom to stand trial.
And pardon my ignorance, but what's the problem if they only go after people who don't pay their bills? Already the police will get involved if you refuse to pay them, the only added problem is someone breaking down your door, and that's only IF you don't pay your bills. What's the big deal?
The problem with bailiffs (like debt collectors who take goods from your house if you can't pay) is that alot of them in the UK act illegally (see the link from my previous post for info on this), entering your property without a warrant, lying, threatening, increasing the total of money that they put into their own pockets (nice) etc... Also if you share a property with someone who hasn't paid their bills, the bailiffs don't care if it's your or their property.
Most people that can't pay their bills need help, not the fear that threats of bailiffs enduces. Also, aren't the corporate people sending the bailiffs already rich enough?
unicorn
09-03-2007, 06:47 PM
It is shocking. Those baliffs should be issued jackboots. I too have noticed how on t.v. and radio, loans companys offering loans to people with bad credit and ccj's. People have been encouraged to think for today and let tomorrow worry about itself, there's plenty of money to go around. Add to that booming house prices and hefty mortgages, with added taxes here and there, possibly road charges etc etc. How can people keep going without working 7 days a week, 24 hours a day to keep afloat.
Now it's payback time, the hawks are out and circling their prey. If the economy faulters and jobs lost, house prices fall, there will be chaos in england, and the jackbooted morons will be kicking in many doors.
look what's happened with the dollar this week, falling heavily. If the u.s, economy faulters then so will ours as a knock on effect. The agenda appears to be in full swing. Whilst the Blairs are rewarded with much help from the rothchilds and murdoch. A job well done:( :mad:
Well said. People in debt are victims of a clever plot that is ruining their lives & making the rich richer. They even show these loan adverts on children's satelite channels, programming them young! Now let's not forget that these companies offering the loans are also keeping the 3rd world impoverished, in famine, & exporting food in famine struck countries for a pittance at the hand of the bankers. Who owes the fucking Rothschild & co emporium anything?
They are delberatly keeping this poverty consciousness on a global scale & we need to shift out of this to realise our god-selves!
harpalchemist
10-03-2007, 11:58 AM
I remember watching an Alex Jones documentary years ago,about 2000 2001,not sure which though,and in it he was talking about the plan for id cards and the three tier privilege system.The most revelatory point was "THOSE IN DEPT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO TRACEL ABROAD,AND WILL HAVE TO WORK OFF THERE DEBT BY WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY SERVISE PROGRAM".i NO LONGER HAVE any DEBT.What about you?Get out of it now.If you are one of the ones that don't want to declare bankrupcy because you are afraid you won't be able to borrow in the future,i hope that answers your question.
mada88
11-03-2007, 01:55 PM
We should consider relaxing and not to get to involved with the things that get us pissed because they will just keep coming. Maybe we are attracting the global take over because we keep thinking and worrying about it. Maybe. We should just laugh at the system because it is designed to be frustrating and worrying to get its power. Just laugh and remember its not real and it never has been nor will it be real.
phoenixchilde
12-03-2007, 05:10 AM
Very good point Harpalchemist. I assume that Bailiffs in the UK can only do this crap if you do have a debt. While it's very difficult to buy a car or a house without a loan or mortgage, most other forms of debt are easy to avoid if you watch your money. No one is forcing people to live in debt, most of them choose to be by either living above their means or buying things they don't need. If you're in debt, getting out of it should be your top financial priority instead of going on expensive vacations.
phoenixchilde
12-03-2007, 05:12 AM
Also, aren't the corporate people sending the bailiffs already rich enough?
I can't argue with that. I don't know if you guys have noticed, but our government here recently decided to take on the big banks for charging ATM fees and then posting huge profits. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.
unicorn
12-03-2007, 09:03 PM
I remember watching an Alex Jones documentary years ago,about 2000 2001,not sure which though,and in it he was talking about the plan for id cards and the three tier privilege system.The most revelatory point was "THOSE IN DEPT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO TRACEL ABROAD,AND WILL HAVE TO WORK OFF THERE DEBT BY WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY SERVISE PROGRAM".i NO LONGER HAVE any DEBT.What about you?Get out of it now.If you are one of the ones that don't want to declare bankrupcy because you are afraid you won't be able to borrow in the future,i hope that answers your question.
Eeeeek. Have been a bit snared by the debt trap, & am doing my best to get out of it (despite 2 interest rates increasing by over half in less than 2 years, f**kers). I recon if they propose to introduce this slavery shit for people in debt they'll have a tidal wave of people declaring bancruptcy... & it will serve them right not getting their money back as they've more than blinkin' well raped the world already! I did consider declaring myself bankrupt but I am self-employed & run the risk of loosing my co-workers, who are my family (of the 4 legged variety) to the banker's who'll take them to market & sell them to any ol' pikey or failing that, the meat van. :(
I instead realised that the only real way out is to alter my beliefs about money & harness my abundance consciousness. A beautiful quote from another site... '& I was shown all the things I had asked for but couldn't receive'... It's my consciousness that can heal my financial situation, my ability to receive, to fully realise that I AM GOD, abundance, love, bliss etc...
And the good news, it's working! I just need to increase the intent a wee bit here & there!! ;)
notaslave
12-03-2007, 09:30 PM
If you are based in the UK you can reclaim unfair bank charges..
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1141050760,24632
An old debt of mine has caught up with me so I am stuffed for the foreseeable after I have been to court over it - as they have added 150% (in excess of) to what I originally borrowed so I am not for paying a penny at this stage.
Also I think it is 6 years in Scotland and 5 years in England that if a creditor has not managed to get hold of you the debt is wiped. This does not apply to council tax but to other debts it does. Sadly mine is 3 or 4 years old lol so I am stuffed.
eternal_spirit
12-03-2007, 09:58 PM
Some house prices have doubled in the space of about 5 or 6 years where I live. Lot's of people bought( mortgage ) when the prices where low, hoping to pay off their mortage over 25 years or less.
Now it's looking like the mortgage repayments will take a lifetime even longer for some, what's going to happen when they die... will their family(children) be responsible for the repayments I expect so.
I'm so skint I can't risk having direct debit using an overdraft on my account, last time I was overdrawn I was charged 30 odd£.
It's a case of do I pay the water bill, phone bill or feed myself. BASTARDS!
They wan't to bring in rises for the council tax based on how nice an area you live in.....if you live in a nice part of town, or you have a bit of countryside they will charge you extra!
It would seem to be all part of the illuminati bankers and the Brotherhoods plan to control us even more by increasing and inventing new taxes.
The price you pay to nowere has increased a dollar more.
kromagg
13-03-2007, 04:00 PM
I am so glad my parents didn't let me take out student loans. But the mortgage bull is scary. I co-own our house (with parents) and after 2 years the rates have already gone up almost virtually a quarter.
unicorn
13-03-2007, 05:03 PM
Some house prices have doubled in the space of about 5 or 6 years where I live. Lot's of people bought( mortgage ) when the prices where low, hoping to pay off their mortage over 25 years or less.
Now it's looking like the mortgage repayments will take a lifetime even longer for some, what's going to happen when they die... will their family(children) be responsible for the repayments I expect so.
It would seem to be all part of the illuminati bankers and the Brotherhoods plan to control us even more by increasing and inventing new taxes.
Well said, eternal spirit. In Alexander Nile's book 'A Focus on Facts' he documents the illumninati's 9 point plan to enslave mankind, one of which is to abolish the ownership of land or property (hence the rise in house prices which is tied in with inheritance tax in the UK, if you have more than £280,000 worth of money or assests, 40% of it goes to Mr Bliar & co :mad:
They've had this whole money thing sussed from the very start, knowing that it would be the perfect trap for controlling people's lives. The infuriating part is that every penny we pay to our bank or on taxes is supporting the corruption, the destruction of the Earth, the abduction & abuse of children, immoral experiments on animals & people, the drug companies (more like drug pushers) weapons, war etc... :(
So how much longer are we going to be victims of this system, before we unite & do something positive about it?
phenylamine
13-03-2007, 10:54 PM
I have seen some here say hey if you get in debt its your bad and the banks are within their rights.This kind of thinking is pure folly in my view.Many,many people that have borrowed no money and done nothing wrong find themselves highly in debt and many more were tricked and/or brainwashed into thinking they had to borrow.For me personally I am over $6,000 usd in debt to the bank and can't even open a bank account because I was the victim of fraud.Does that matter to the banks?,no.does it matter to the banks that the amount the theives defrauded me was only $3,200 and the rest is just interest the have added on?,no.I do not have $6,000,I can barely pay my bills,and therefore these theives(oh wait according to an above poster I'm the theif for being in debt) are going to continue to add an ever increasing amount of interest until I find a way to pay or they find a way to confiscate whatever I might own.
What a logical world we live in,all hail rationality.
notaslave
13-03-2007, 11:03 PM
I have seen some here say hey if you get in debt its your bad and the banks are within their rights.This kind of thinking is pure folly in my view.Many,many people that have borrowed no money and done nothing wrong find themselves highly in debt and many more were tricked and/or brainwashed into thinking they had to borrow.For me personally I am over $6,000 usd in debt to the bank and can't even open a bank account because I was the victim of fraud.Does that matter to the banks?,no.does it matter to the banks that the amount the theives defrauded me was only $3,200 and the rest is just interest the have added on?,no.I do not have $6,000,I can barely pay my bills,and therefore these theives(oh wait according to an above poster I'm the theif for being in debt) are going to continue to add an ever increasing amount of interest until I find a way to pay or they find a way to confiscate whatever I might own.
What a logical world we live in,all hail rationality.
I tend not to worry about debts, its only numbers. However it is increasingly more difficult to operate without a bank account in this country anyway.
I may have to organise a different way of getting my money because they can get.. I am bad with words, sorry I forget what its called but they can take the money direct from your account here if the law permits them. There is a legal name for this but I cant remember it. So I may have to close my account or I will starve LOL
Do you find it easy enough to operate without one?
"or enforce a payment decree by way of a bank arrestment, earnings arrestment, attachment, exceptional attachment order, inhibition," that is what they can do here
phenylamine
13-03-2007, 11:29 PM
No,not having a bank account is endless hassle.I don't even want one but they have structured things as to make it nearly immpossible to live decently if you try to operate outside of the system.
wizard
20-03-2007, 04:31 PM
Just to go off the banking scam for a sec. I was down in London last week,(14th march),with greenpeace handing out leaflets opposing the decision to replace Trident,(newspeak for weapons of mass destruction).Wearing T-shirt saying "Tony Loves W.M.D.).We were threatened with arrest if we continued to hand them out.So we stood in a line saying nothing,not approaching anyone with the leaflets just in our hands.When people just started to take them,we were moved away.My photo was taken several times by the police,and had to give my name etc or i was liable for arrest!!
Aint it great living in a "democracy".
YOU ARE FREE TO DO WHAT WE TELL YOU.
R.I.P. Bill Hicks.
unicorn
20-03-2007, 05:09 PM
Hi Wizard, bet you the threat of arrest was under the terrorism act... urgh. Why couldn't you hand out leaflets... was it on private property or something like that? :confused:
But getting back to banks...
UK banks are raking in £1.2bn a year in 'illegal' penalty charges, according to analysts at City bank Credit Suisse. :eek:
http://money.aol.co.uk/banking/reclaim-bank-charges-in-three-easy/article/20060911061809990001
Blood boiling yet!! Anyone still think the people in debt are the criminals? :rolleyes:
truthsayer
24-03-2007, 04:24 PM
There are no words for just how angry this makes me.
I am currently fighting the Student Loans Company who have resorted to sending my case to a collection agency and have threatened me with baillifs (I have made payments btw and done everything as SLC instructed)
If they damage my home and I have proof of payment, then I will sue the b**tards!
Sorry for the strong first post, but I am so sick of the injustice and oppression, we have to pay for in stealth taxes! Hi btw :)
ho1ogram
24-03-2007, 05:22 PM
If they damage my home and I have proof of payment, then I will sue the b**tards!
Sorry for the strong first post, but I am so sick of the injustice and oppression, we have to pay for in stealth taxes! Hi btw :)
No apology necessary. The whole banking/interest/tax scam is infuriating. I hope it all goes well for you. G'day btw :)
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wizard
27-03-2007, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=unicorn;18673]Hi Wizard, bet you the threat of arrest was under the terrorism act... urgh. Why couldn't you hand out leaflets... was it on private property or something like that? :confused:
Hi long time to get back to you,sorry:o . The crazy thing was we were trying to get the mps before they went in to vote on the decision to renew our weapons of mass murder. we were there early morning from 8 o clock.they moved us a little after 11. Most of the mps were turning up about noon and would all be in by 2-ish. After this time we would have been allowed to carry on. Basically we had been stopped from lobbying the mps and trying to get them to say no to wmds or to at least defer on the decision to renew them.Scary terrorists indeed:eek:
truthsayer
28-03-2007, 11:32 PM
No apology necessary. The whole banking/interest/tax scam is infuriating. I hope it all goes well for you. G'day btw :)
h.
I phoned them up at had a go, quoting dates and figures and proof of updating my change in circumstances. She claimed they would begin a trace and promised to phone back. She never did. I wrote it all down and repeated everything in writing and have sent that via signed for with proof.
As for those with debts being nothing short of all criminals that comment makes me sick to my stomach. That is not the sort of sweeping generalisation or narrow minded attitude, I would expect from this forum.
If I didn't take out a Student Loan I would not have been able to do a degree. I don't have a rich mummy and daddy to bail me out and work bloody hard for every penny I've ever earnt and worked part-time for my entire degree whilst dealing with my dad dying of Cancer who barely made it to my graduation.
I don't see why I should miss out on educating myself because of my social background.
Poverty does not equal stupidity or a criminal disposition just at a disadvantage.
Yes I am in debt and yes it was my choice, but it does not give any organisation the right to charge penalty fees or to break into my home to reclaim alleged money lost (that I don't owe in this case) because they can't make a few clicks to check their own records first.
I have informed SLC that if I have to reply to one more automated threatening letter repeating the same information that a few clicks can provide them I will be charging them for every single letter and postage.
I have also reminded them that as of the 1st of April the Office of Fair Trading will be introducing a new complaints procedure that will cost them £400 per forma complaint.