Matrix Agents, Organic Portals and The Hivemind

[getmeout]

http://www.montalk.net/misc/62

Matrix Agents: Profiles and Analysis (Part I)
This article seeks to summarize, clarify, and update the information available on the subject of energy vampires, the Matrix and its various agents, particularly one class of agents called “organic portals”. . I will be paraphrasing from published sources listed in the footnotes, and will include personal observations from friends and myself.

This article first defines organic portals (OPs) and souled humans (non-OPs), then makes a comparison between them based on physical, psychological, and metaphysical structure. Second, it explores the evolutionary origin and purpose of both types of humans. Third, this article describes the function of OPs within modern society, particularly concerning their role as passive enforcers of the Matrix. Lastly, it contrasts the usefulness of intuition versus intellectual analysis when it comes to identifying OPs. Interspersed throughout this discussion will be additional comparisons between these and other Matrix agents, particularly soulless robotic humans.

I found this read very interesting as this is something i've felt for a long time, maybe i wouldn't use some of the terminlogy here but it's still pretty much right on. It's just a matter of explaining it in with the help of modern movies instead of bibleterms i think.

Altough it's pretty harsh to believe that some humans actually are soulless.. i really don't know what to think about that, i would be deeply hurt if someone told me they believed i didn't have a soul. But still, damn, i'm sure we all have had those thoughts about some people one time or another.

Maybe lack of spirit would be more appropriate.

A Note of Caution
It is very important to remember that this knowledge is to be used for defense and prevention, not persecution. Organic portals are simply portals, passive beings through which external influences can act61. Preemptively targeting them, or any other agent including souled humans who occasionally succumb to playing part in another’s manipulation, is missing the point because one merely attacks the messenger. While defensive measures to counteract their attacks are appropriate, acting offensively to persecute agents is not.

I know for a fact that anyone can become an agent at any time. I see this in people and they usually share common traits of being negative, abusive and so on and therefor, i believe are more open to manipulation by negative entities/'the matrix'. Also drunk people or people doing alot of drugs are very often showing this which would make some sense.

Other Methods of Attack
Aside from the intimate avenue of family and relationships, agents can attack in a far more impersonal manner. The crudest method of attack happens via harassment by strangers who are part of the Matrix hive-mind network. When walking down a street, through a shopping mall, around a university campus, or riding the subway, etc… one must realize that at least half of the strangers around are organic portals, and most of the rest are asleep souled humans. All of them are open to temporary animation by the Matrix for direct interaction with a targeted individual. They may mumble cryptic phrases with synchronistic meanings, yell offensive statements tailored to press one’s emotional buttons, and rarely but occasionally engage in a physical attack. What separates them from ordinary crazies or random acts of harassment is that their actions seem unrelated but are far from random. There is timing, engineering, and synchronicity involved in what they do that singles out a specific target at a time. They could be OPs looking for a quick gulp of energy from vulnerable targets, but the Matrix ensures that whom they pick “deserves” it. Other examples of hive-mind harassment may include hateful stares by strangers for no apparent reason.


This one is also pretty interesting:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=6103

A primer on the Reptilian Hive Consciousness and the Mechanism
Hi all. This is a rough draft and work in progress. If there are typos, I apologize I am still in the middle of writing this.

I am going to describe my experiences with the REPTILIAN HIVE CONSCIOUSNESS... Some describe this as the SUBCONSCIOUS MIND/Collective Unconscious. In this essay, my goal, is to make the finer distinction between the different forms of hive consciousness on the planet that our linked to our spirit, mind, body and etheric body etc.

Have you experienced anything like this?

[citywoman]

Nobody can read Montalk and not learn something.
He is truly one of the most intelligent voices on the internet.
Ignore him at your peril, dear readers.

That is all. :)

[the_choiceless_one]

I have, and I've been trying to work out if the majority or all of my family, ex-friends, most or all the signfiicant people I've ever known, and the countless strangers, who have been tormenting with secret mind games, are aliens/demons/devilworshippers/timetravellers/part robots/witches/wizards/angels/original humans etc ever since. How I was born into it, and if all 'humans' are. If you become a target through setups, or through what they deem 'fair game'.

The above site and article links to the concept of loosh, emotional suffering, the idea of our lives being planned out, fate if you like, vampires (the psychic emotional kind). It's all very confusing.

Soulless may be a naive way to think about it, for who can say for sure if we have a soul. I don't know though. Maybe it's to do with reincarnation and learning, or experiencing. Others call it gangstalking and think people are literally being 'paid' money for it, which I'm certain is not true. Others think that people are 'innocently' manipulated by higher intelligences/demonic forces or even willingly possessed into messing with a target's mind/life, random synchronicity, but again, for the most part, I don't subscribe to that (in my case).

What I do know is that these individuals can read your mind and hear your thoughts, know or literally see what you see. Stuff they hint at in recent films like Twilight like mind-reading/hearing thoughts is all true, and like I say, it's only hinted at.

These beings, are highly, highly intelligent, and see and hear things a human doesn't.

Soulless I don't know. Maybe they are the ones with the souls and humans are just artificial creations, their pets to mess with.

I've been through much weirdness and still don't know anything, really. They do have terminator type precision in their language, psychology, movement, synchronicity, they are certainly hive mind, they are all born geniuses, actors & actresses. Maybe Terminator refers to the past, not the future, as we would naturally believe (as some people think Star Wars does refer to past events).

Don't know if they are all-bad, or all-good, or something in the middle. Don't even know if any of it has any point, to me or to anyone else.

[citywoman]

All-bad, if you don't know what's going on.
All-good, if you do. (enter the lesson)
Kudos on your EXCELLENT post, choiceless.

[getmeout]

I have, and I've been trying to work out if the majority or all of my family, ex-friends, most or all the signfiicant people I've ever known, and the countless strangers, who have been tormenting with secret mind games, are aliens/demons/devilworshippers/timetravellers/part robots/witches/wizards/angels/original humans etc ever since. How I was born into it, and if all 'humans' are. If you become a target through setups, or through what they deem 'fair game'.

The above site and article links to the concept of loosh, emotional suffering, the idea of our lives being planned out, fate if you like, vampires (the psychic emotional kind). It's all very confusing.

Soulless may be a naive way to think about it, for who can say for sure if we have a soul. I don't know though. Maybe it's to do with reincarnation and learning, or experiencing. Others call it gangstalking and think people are literally being 'paid' money for it, which I'm certain is not true. Others think that people are 'innocently' manipulated by higher intelligences/demonic forces or even willingly possessed into messing with a target's mind/life, random synchronicity, but again, for the most part, I don't subscribe to that (in my case).

What I do know is that these individuals can read your mind and hear your thoughts, know or literally see what you see. Stuff they hint at in recent films like Twilight like mind-reading/hearing thoughts is all true, and like I say, it's only hinted at.

These beings, are highly, highly intelligent, and see and hear things a human doesn't.

Soulless I don't know. Maybe they are the ones with the souls and humans are just artificial creations, their pets to mess with.

I've been through much weirdness and still don't know anything, really. They do have terminator type precision in their language, psychology, movement, synchronicity, they are certainly hive mind, they are all born geniuses, actors & actresses. Maybe Terminator refers to the past, not the future, as we would naturally believe (as some people think Star Wars does refer to past events).

Don't know if they are all-bad, or all-good, or something in the middle. Don't even know if any of it has any point, to me or to anyone else.

Wow... never expected a reply like that, that's a bit eerie.

I know exactly what you are saying though. And just when you think you are out flirting with psychosis or something then some insane synchronized event takes place that you just can't refute as you being a looney. And it will happen again, and again.

Suprisingly timed phonecalls or visits just when you stumbled upon some new information or made some breakthrough conclusion within yourself etc etc, and then stuff just unfolds..
Random strangers making remarks about it when you walk down the streets, damn even saying your name. Now, this is schizophrenia to most people... except that it isn't.

So what is it? Do they know? Are they unknowing or knowingly vessels? Are we all?

[the_choiceless_one]

So what is it? Do they know? Are they unknowing or knowingly vessels? Are we all?

They are either directly reading your mind (all the time)/remote view/hear your thoughts or are somehow to 'know' through being told what you are thinking/feeling/planning. Some intelligence is always reading your mind or watching you.

I have had to examine my whole life through the events I post about and it is clear my mind was being read/fished by my 'family' & friends my whole life. They made me who I am. It's also clear examples of mind-reading/fishing were presented all throughout my education, from being very young to university.

My experiences/mistakes/knowledge is all because of their intended manipulation/plans. From the schools I was put in, the friends/teachers around me, so-called random things, the first car I bought, everything. The people I know now (i.e. not many, and those that I do, are 'them') and the website I'm on, is through that.

They can synchronise tv/radio/news/movies/music with YOU, if necessary.

For example, as a child, I would be trying to remember a word, for no particular reason, and then very soon that word would be mentioned in a tv advert. It happened a few times. Many more examples, but don't wanna bore you. Friends would comment on exactly what I had been thinking or feeling, almost as preparation for later life events, if not that, then certainly to shape me. They'd comment on a film I'd just watched etc. They'd know I was feeling insecure and then pounce on it. Sometimes the opposite.

The world is run by a secret society of GENIUSES. I don't know if they are demons, just aliens, OPs, or all the possibilities I mentioned in my first reply.

I don't know if they co-ordinate themselves or if there is a higher power co-ordinating them. They are able to pose perfectly for a photograph down to the tiniest detail. Imagine the brain necessary to memorise all the various hand signals for example. Look how long some speeches are in movies. They are born with that knowledge, or capability, they are born telepathic, born into the hive mind. I imagine they are born with 'roles' to play in whatever is going on, or in a 'human's life experience. Life on Earth may be an RPG to them.

There are no accidents in this World/stage, there are no co-incidences.

[getmeout]

This guy has his take on it.. i think he makes some sense.

Knowledge - Pt. 09 of 13 - YouTube
Knowledge - Pt. 09 of 13

at 1:40 in: "I welcome people listening to my mind, cause i'm not pretending to be perfect. They can learn from my corruption"

"You have no privacy, the sooner you realise that the better"

"..so it's bizarre probably for some of these mind-control agents and entities, because i welcome their observance of me. I feel like i'm on that show Big Brother, 24/7 surveilance, that's fine."

I also heard him talk about people responding to his exact thoughts, saying something like: "At the time they wanted me to believe they where aliens reading my mind" According to him it is entities or "the matrix" for lack of better terms speaking through people ..I'll see if i can find that part.

One thing is for sure, they really are trying to rip your mind to shreds.
I KNOW there are more people out there going through this. Don't let them.

[getmeout]

bump.

Nobody?

[busa]

OPs are "just" people who are susceptible to alien spirit co-habitation which is what this person is talking about. It is the incumbent alien spirit which attacks others around the host or manipulates them.

Same understanding, just a different method of description.

OPs arent a type of human they are just humans with greater potential for walk ins. Either weak spirited humans or vulnerable spirited humans are easier walk ins.


There are more than two types of humans here.

[busa]

Direct manipulation of not only people, but of our future through major figures, is the alien races most closely gaurded secret.

Tbh I believe it is one of Christianity`s most closely gaurded secrets too.
We share our bodies at times, not with devils and other "religious speak", but with other benevolent or malevolant spirits who have thier own purpose.

People do not know who is within them. Who is sharing with you? Would you know if you are sharing?

Would any world leader know if they are sharing?

[busa]

I think drug and/or alcohol abuse can allow an easier walk in for other spirits.

Because your mind is so debilitated by the drugs, it weakens your defenses or causes a breach in your defenses.

[princessofwands]

My husband is a bit psychic and says that half the people walking round in shopping malls are not 'real'. He can practically see through them. Then occasionally he goes past a 'real' person and there's a kind of spark of recognition between him and them, a kind of HEY! ANOTHER REAL BEING! YIPPEE!

I love the Montalk site, I think I've read all of it!! :D

[busa]

My husband is a bit psychic and says that half the people walking round in shopping malls are not 'real'. He can practically see through them. Then occasionally he goes past a 'real' person and there's a kind of spark of recognition between him and them, a kind of HEY! ANOTHER REAL BEING! YIPPEE!

I love the Montalk site, I think I've read all of it!! :D

Sparked souls amongst the crowd ;)

I 100% share his feelings walking round town and seeing the mass of human droids. Total slaves to the system and thats now, not at some time in the future !

[busa]

Most towns and villages round our local area are deserted at night or even in the day sometimes.

When I lived in Coventry a decent sized city, after 10pm at night the residential streets are deserted, absolutely dead.

After 11pm at night you can hear a pin drop. Its surreal :confused:

Its really freaky when we drive out through the rural villages here during the day at weekends and there is no sound at all. No cars, no people, no music, no lawn mowers, no talking, no people in windows, nothing.

Stepford ish ?

[greenzxy]

Sparked souls amongst the crowd ;)

I 100% share his feelings walking round town and seeing the mass of human droids. Total slaves to the system and thats now, not at some time in the future !

I wouldn't go harshly and call certain people droids, now.
There are those who subconsciously know that life is a game and just act the part. Some are teachers and are "in the know" of the back stage reality.

While others (majority of people here in Davidicke) I would say are students that are here to learn from a ground up experience.

[busa]

I wouldn't go harshly and call certain people droids, now.
There are those who subconsciously know that life is a game and just act the part. Some are teachers and are "in the know" of the back stage reality.

While others (majority of people here in Davidicke) I would say are students that are here to learn from a ground up experience.

Theres a good few on the pace here :)

Droids ? Yeah ok maybe a little harsh, but I get frustrated with our race sometimes.

[sylph]

What was said about the way strangers sometimes say things out loud and it means something to you, coincidences that seem too strange not to have a meaning....

Well I've been communicating with Angels and also a few books have 'coincidently' come my way on Angels that suggest that if something bad is about to happen to you they try to stop it.
They are your guardian Angels and often they will communicate with someone elses guardian Angel and tell them to say something to you as a warning.

Say for example you are a bit psychic or sensitive to your Angels messages and you sudenly feel a compulsion to say something out loud that doesn't mean anything to you, or to whistle a tune etc....
it may mean nothing to you...but to the guy that you just passed that heard it...it may save his life somehow.

Now if you call these Angels matrix people or whatever I couldn't verify if you are right or wrong but from my experience I am given messages to help me and never to harm anyone in any way.
I can choose to listen or to ignore them.

Sometimes I ask my Angel to hug someone elses Angel in an argument and it does cause a strange calming reaction on that person....try it.

Although I believe in Angels because I have seen one when my baby was NDE in my belly in pregnancy (no drugs involved...lol) and it saved us...I am biased, but I have an open mind and not a religion believer. I don't think Angels are from one particular religion, I'm not sure what they are, just that they are very big, have wings and also a metallic kind of body and a bright light face you cannot make out, they exude warmth and love in a heightened way that cannot be described.

But saying all that, my mum who is 70 said that when she was giving birth to me she had an Out of Body Experience where she experienced 'the matrix' like the film and was shown the 'real' world.


She's not a science fiction fan so I told her about the film years later when it came out and it freaked her out a bit because the scene where he wakes up in the hive thing covered in goo, with all the other people on tubes asleep was just as she saw....she said 'we were all wired up to computers and they said to me, this is the real world, you were asleep'.

Her first pregnancy she also had an OBE where she was examined by little men that gave her a fear of midgets after the experience - before you laugh....only a few years ago did I realise the link between that and possible little grey men....?
Coming from someone like my mum who doesn't want to discuss anything paranormal and always argues any of the topics I bring up that are discussed in here - I've got to think twice before discarding what she says.

Where the Angels fit into the matrix I don't know but they are almost part of us, maybe they are us.....

Thanks for this post ...interesting thoughts.....:)

[j35p3r4d0]

Direct manipulation of not only people, but of our future through major figures, is the alien races most closely gaurded secret.

Tbh I believe it is one of Christianity`s most closely gaurded secrets too.
We share our bodies at times, not with devils and other "religious speak", but with other benevolent or malevolant spirits who have thier own purpose.

People do not know who is within them. Who is sharing with you? Would you know if you are sharing?

Would any world leader know if they are sharing?


the alien races are not a secret, they are an increasingly open information base, also you must not question their ability to understand humans, as we struggle to be able to act on our own most of the time due to dependent cultural control mechanisms.

Christianity comes in many forms, and most of which do not necessitate 'brainwashing', the fact is that most people live simple honest lives, and the basic virtues of the 7-factor 'sin' system most religions use to continue life are simply pre-requisites to continuing life.

they are not evil, but some of their followers develop over-zealous attitudes in regard to the treatment of women, birth by fire, and that sort of 'self-destructive' vindication of 'gods will'

any intelligent system will come to the same conclusions given the necessary perspective, or viewpoint perception. The universe is not an evil place, although it is not a forgiving place either.

the allowance of 'souls' to be controlling of individuals is something a language can permit, via a means of controlled overall understanding exerted by the individual.

the only way someone can be a 'droid' or an 'automaton', is in-fact through being denied their own plausible sentience (correct understanding), when given the information to act responsibly; most and all people and animals will, this is call the necessity of 'any action, as thus there is a reaction.

if you are to understand, you are to know better, but the fallacy of 'circular logic' is something most people use to feel they don't know better, when in reality all that is is to create a solution, which is in-fact to be able to 'choose'

most people choose incorrectly based on what is 'culturally acceptable', which is another function of what your language and society allows you to understand through your conventional logic.

the problem being that drug use is infact both a window to opening your own perception, and the next step into a literal and literary minefield and mental perception, which is as easily used against you as it is to be seen as potentially liberating from the destruction of personal choice.

it can be hard to see what you can 'choose', but this isn't a call to arms against 'free spirits', as a man who has just murdered his entire family can be seen as 'free in spirit' as he exerted his right to 'choose', through in-fact doing anything at all.

this is the basis for a lot of quote unquote 'satanic' world views, which within reason actually go against the motives and beliefs of a religion called 'satanism' so you can understand the problem with a 'secular and realistic' view of what you might want to consider a 'consistent viewpoint'

a man who kills his family in anger and sexual rage can be seen as facilitating 'evil spirits'

this is because he is acting within a logic that is inherently 'self destructive', as it is 'masochistic' and 'unwise' to hurt other people / beings / spirits, because we as animals of social and emotional ability do in-fact need to respect life simply to continue.

alien lifeforms are not 'evil spirits', they are old and wise civilizations which have stood the test of time and space.

much as indeed have the animals of the earth.

but when a man acts in violence against his fellow man, his family, how can he be seen to embody the spirit of alien civilizations who understand that they need to continue through working 'together' for set goals, numero uno "survival" ?

[j35p3r4d0]

Agent:

programmatic automaton, unable to gain proper sentience, a lack of choice, programmatic predictability and utilization through control mechanisms. Willingly controlled, unable to break free of itself, essentially a virus when exposed to upper echelon intelligences, unnecessary in Utopian understandings\ theoretical meantime necessitation, they follow predominant functions and forms, they are the people at large as they fight to protect their own mind, which they need.

Sentinel:

sentience of self sustained energies and necessitated selection throughout the system of interdependent functions. That which selects through error to maintain the entire system. These beings can be seen as that which corrects eventually corrupting agents from destroying the entire system. they steadily eliminate that which needs to be removed for the entire systems survival, and can through this maintain as necessary through being self-selective and thus 'not themselves errors', although certain sentinels do become obsolete, this is after certain agents fail completely through lacking logical necessity

Merovingian:

One of the few beings who select and maintain that which can be taken from old and new sources, they who select through their own sentience the system of which thought patterning which is required to be subjected to both continuity and this the control of unnecessary and detrimental variation, they refine that through which we understand as able to maintain itself, hence akin to a 'programmatic aristocracy', although in fact sporting no more arrogance than is functionally necessary. Even Guardians need a laugh, and they are the delegate's of the actions of the sentinels

(seen as classical reasons for functional selection through a relativistic necessity of forward motion and process)

[j35p3r4d0]

These beings, are highly, highly intelligent, and see and hear things a human doesn't.


your definition of 'human' is insufficient. These things are all available to humans.

most of these things are infact HUMAN re-assertions.

most humans are psychic, this is aboriginal fact, don't be so 'cold war brainwashed'

[busa]

the alien races are not a secret, they are an increasingly open information base, also you must not question their ability to understand humans, as we struggle to be able to act on our own most of the time due to dependent cultural control mechanisms.


I said that aliens co-habiting or hiding within humans already hosted by a spirit from birth are a closely gaurded secret by tptb and by the church, not aliens themselves. ;)

Aliens have been in, on or around this planet for hundreds of thousands of years.

I have a right to question anyone as a sentient being myself ! No one owns me, no one is better than me, no one has the right to violate me, I am an intelligent and advanced being in my own right.

I do not trust those beings who are so advanced that they can do what they like to me and I have no say in it. This is my spirit life, my journey, I do what I chose.

Not all humans are weak or pathetic.

[j35p3r4d0]

Incorrect, most people gravitate through their own personalities toward differing sectors of idealogical thought, what overcompensates for a lack of understanding for most people is the notion that acting without rational thought lends you to be acting in the interests of those who understand the outcomes and motives for your actions, and thus become part of the overall emphasis behind a plethora of motives.

you're just pinning aliens on certain spokes of the 10,000 spoke Buddhist wheel.

demonic possession isn't "hidden" by "the church", its commonly accepted and you're just plastering hypochondria over religious suspicions.

your relative sentience is dependent completely upon what you do and do not properly understand, waving your supposed 'rights' around without understanding how they work and what maintains them is an open door to falling folly to your own ignorance, and i suggest you drag less of the worlds religions down with you.

you will not be doing what you choose when you have to conform to the monetary and military industrial system, as much as your parade of self-assertion may make you feel otherwise, this is not a joke

bolstering your own feelings of inadequacy doesn't change much except to allow you to continue unquestioningly (largely within the realms of ignorance) upon your own feelings of self-vindicated lack of questioning.

this same lack of questioning lends you to fall prey most easily to those who DO understand more than you, and to deny this in some pursuit of assertion then attempts to deny THEM THEIR own understanding, which is not really equal now is it?

the world is not balanced, and neither is your violation of the rules of conscientious conduct along the lines of failure to rationalize logically.

hundreds of thousands of years of human history will tell you that our own capacity for war, rape, and general moral downfall is just as prevalent as our own capacity for understanding and reason.

neither half of this duality is controlled or manipulated beyond our own ability to decide for ourselves by any 'alien' presence, as most of what any malevolent species may want us to fail to accomplish is underachieved at the necessity for more positive and powerful notions of love and positive construction, or else we would not survive, much as several civilizations have fallen already under regimes of decadence and militarism.

this is not alien presence, this is human nature, and your assertions fall victim to their own lack of necessity, which is a shame, because you don't deserve to be violated, so perhaps you should think more constructively

[busa]

Incorrect, most people gravitate through their own personalities toward differing sectors of idealogical thought, what overcompensates for a lack of understanding for most people is the notion that acting without rational thought lends you to be acting in the interests of those who understand the outcomes and motives for your actions, and thus become part of the overall emphasis behind a plethora of motives.

you're just pinning aliens on certain spokes of the 10,000 spoke Buddhist wheel.

demonic possession isn't "hidden" by "the church", its commonly accepted and you're just plastering hypochondria over religious suspicions.

your relative sentience is dependent completely upon what you do and do not properly understand, waving your supposed 'rights' around without understanding how they work and what maintains them is an open door to falling folly to your own ignorance, and i suggest you drag less of the worlds religions down with you.

you will not be doing what you choose when you have to conform to the monetary and military industrial system, as much as your parade of self-assertion may make you feel otherwise, this is not a joke

bolstering your own feelings of inadequacy doesn't change much except to allow you to continue unquestioningly (largely within the realms of ignorance) upon your own feelings of self-vindicated lack of questioning.

this same lack of questioning lends you to fall prey most easily to those who DO understand more than you, and to deny this in some pursuit of assertion then attempts to deny THEM THEIR own understanding, which is not really equal now is it?

the world is not balanced, and neither is your violation of the rules of conscientious conduct along the lines of failure to rationalize logically.

hundreds of thousands of years of human history will tell you that our own capacity for war, rape, and general moral downfall is just as prevalent as our own capacity for understanding and reason.

neither half of this duality is controlled or manipulated beyond our own ability to decide for ourselves by any 'alien' presence, as most of what any malevolent species may want us to fail to accomplish is underachieved at the necessity for more positive and powerful notions of love and positive construction, or else we would not survive, much as several civilizations have fallen already under regimes of decadence and militarism.

this is not alien presence, this is human nature, and your assertions fall victim to their own lack of necessity, which is a shame, because you don't deserve to be violated, so perhaps you should think more constructively

I don`t subscribe to any religion, I see it as weakness within the individual.

Its easier to adopt a pre manufactured system of belief than to find your own answers. Religion is a comforter for the weak. That is why religion became a system of control in the west, by selective denial of knowledge and manipultion of the weak. What is the bible ? A cut and paste excercise of some random events that may or may not have happened? Written and rewritten many times to suit whoever?

I see the athiest viewpoint better than the religionists. But I have my own beliefs based on my own experiences and my own study. I do`nt discount religion all together, they all have their elements of truth.

Shrouding other life forms and entities within some archane and misleading terms of "devils and demons" is just more denial of knowledge.

Denial of knowledge and control through fear is just another facet of the church. That is what they are about, keep up, this is just rudementary stuff?
The church does NOT accept alien life here on earth and the RC church is about as Christian as my backside.

You talk with authority based on your own ignorance because of your religion?
You have reigious coloured filters infront of your eyes, I have clear glass.
We are both still seeing the same matrix through our human imposed glasses.

I hate the lies and hate being forced to live within a lie.
I believe in truth and honesty, do you ?

None of us know enough or understand enough because we are all denied.
The decision was made that during this phase of civilisation, that conscious contact would be denied. I believe that decision was flawed and I am entitled to have my own opinion. I do not accept that we are lesser spirits because we are in human body.

The methods of blocking conscious memories do not work all too often.
THEY know that. I know this matrix is a big fat lie and I`m sick of the lies.

It is the "not knowing", the "denial of knowledge" that causes the damage and destruction.

Those on this side who wish to maintain the lie are the orthodox churches and power mongers combined.

Humankind has been denied for too long, we are reaping the rewards of that right now.

Why blame humans for the denial of truth? Why blame us for the flawed decision of no conscious contact?

Not everyone is strong and capable of dealing with the denial.
Look how much fear and damage to the spirit has been caused on earth because of 1/2 knowing or less.

How many and how great are the problems caused by people messing with the spirit world? Messing because they do`nt have enough knowledge.

How many contactees lives are wrecked and their innocent families lives wrecked because of denial of knowledge? No one seems to acknowledge the spirit damage?

The probelm is my friend, we do`nt know enough. NONE OF US.
This small amount of a little knowledge is dangerous. It is destructive not to know enough at this stage.

We need full knowledge as the damage is growing.

[j35p3r4d0]

I don`t subscribe to any religion, I see it as weakness within the individual.

the many are stronger than the few. This is a short route to having failed already.

that weakness crap in the sentence after shows just how little you do properly understand.

enjoy being stupid on your own.

[busa]

the many are stronger than the few. This is a short route to having failed already.

that weakness crap in the sentence after shows just how little you do properly understand.

enjoy being stupid on your own.

I don`t need to belong to any club, or group, or someone elses manufactured
"system of understanding".

If you find comfort and strength in your chosen club/religion then fine. :)

I do`nt need that to be happy or strong. :)

[busa]

The message that people like me will fail or already have failed because we are not part of any religion, is the VERY BIGGEST LIE THAT THE CHURCH HAS TOLD.

Thats their sales pitch to sucker weak people in.

I am totally ashamed of the orthodox churches in the world and do not wish any part of them or their foul lies, hatred of others and bigotry. The churches will fall because they are no where near their Gods.

I dont need to wear a special badge to say I am a decent person, I just get on with doing it. ;)