the EGO

[michael2]

All my relatives hide behind an artifical ego. Just blabla, all the time.

They reject me, they feel reminded to real life.

It would have great consequences, they would have to give up their artificial life.

Any idea? I feel lonely, want to hug my relatives, but they hide.

Somehow they are prisoners in an BMW.

As I said, it would have fast consequences. So all relatives live on an Island.

I prefer community. How too achive, with everybody hiding behind this artifical Ego.

P.S. I did the same for years. In school and later.

We are obviously stimulated to "struggle for survival, which is no survival, but slow-motion-death!

[i_am]

All my relatives hide behind an artifical ego. Just blabla, all the time.

They reject me, they feel reminded to real life.

It would have great consequences, they would have to give up their artificial life.

Any idea? I feel lonely, want to hug my relatives, but they hide.

Somehow they are prisoners in an BMW.

As I said, it would have fast consequences. So all relatives live on an Island.

I prefer community. How too achive, with everybody hiding behind this artifical Ego.

P.S. I did the same for years. In school and later.

We are obviously stimulated to "struggle for survival, which is no survival, but slow-motion-death!

Hello Michael

I think you have come to the right place. Like you, so many have been drawn to this community. Our journey can be very lonely but we are not alone as this forum clearly demonstrates.

Can't give you a real hug. Will a cyber one suffice? ((((((((((Michael2))))))))))

Don't despair. At this stage of our evolution most people are ego driven, totally materialistic and/or in the survival mode but it is slowly changing, I think (hope)

Imagine what it will be like when we are the majority. Woohoo!! Bring it On!

[i am all i am]

G'day Michael2,

I found that by expanding my idea of 'family' that I had relatives everywhere.

We are all part of the human family.

As much as we all would love to enlighten our families, both immediate and human, allowing them to pursue their own journey and come to their own realisations is all we can do for them. When they start to 'wake up', they will remember you had talked to them and seek you out. Sometimes this process can take years, other times, a matter of weeks.

When introducing someone to the sort of knowledge that is on this site and forum, I personally like to start with 'The Celestine Prophecy'. When people understand the idea of coincidences and control dramas, they will, in my experience, be accepting of information more readily.


With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[father ted]

Welcome michael2, you can talk about whatever you want on this forum. I wouldn't worry about other people, even if they are your relatives, it's just physical dna anyway. I would rather have a good friend over a careless relative or a parent.

One of the most frustrating things about this journey is that 2012 couldn't come any sooner, but that's because we have got to go on our own journey and learn untill we are ready fo 2012. Your relatives are on their own journey, I suppose they're at the BMW stage:D

[neondestiny]

Hi Michael,
I would like to give you a big fuzzy cyberhug too (((((()))))) some really good advice here from our forum folk, the only thing I can add is try not to worry about it as much as possible.

When introducing someone to the sort of knowledge that is on this site and forum, I personally like to start with 'The Celestine Prophecy'. When people understand the idea of coincidences and control dramas, they will, in my experience, be accepting of information more readily.

very good advice above, I have just purchased another copy of this book for MIL for her birthday this year ;) I love how that book is written, one of my favourites. Am reading the 11th insight at the moment, which has also turned out to be another exceptional one. :)

[lookfar]

Hi Michael

I would also like to welcome you & here's another cyber hug to add to the rest (((((((((Michael))))))))) :)

It is hard when family don't want to accept what's going on. But you can't let that bring you down, you have to remain positive & let them know that you are still there for them. Let's hope that they will soon wake up, but if that doesn't happen, then that's their path and you have to accept that.

I also highly recommend The Celestine Prophecy as a good starting point, it's written in a way that appeals to all, despite their beliefs, & it keeps you on the edge of your seat all the way through - great stuff :) Haven't met anyone yet who hasn't enjoyed & learnt from it.

[seamus]

Welcome to the party, Michael!

since I am a Macho Man I won't give you a hug, but rather a ***THWAP*** on the back! I know you're in for a real humdinger. Make sure your mind's good and open. Don't resist, just "follow the information".

Heh heh j/k about the thwap. ((((((((hug))))))))

:o

s

[janeway]

Hi Michael, and here another hug:
((((((((((Michael2))))))))))


The book that triggered me was: "behold a pale horse" from William Cooper.
Unfortunately he was assasinated a few years ago by the FBI.

When people drive BMW's they are more into hot stuff (I think) and
"behold a pale horse" is still hot! A very good eye-opener it was for me.

On the other hand I agree with the other responders that people follow their own paths. It didn't help me to try to talk to my "old" friends and my family and it didn't help them.
So now I just respect them for their choices and still love them very much.
But an evening with a friend who is into this kind of information is much more exciting for me than an evening blabla and just socializing.
Well that is my choice. And my family respects that too.

[i_am]

Hi Michael

I also highly recommend The Celestine Prophecy as a good starting point, it's written in a way that appeals to all, despite their beliefs, & it keeps you on the edge of your seat all the way through - great stuff :) Haven't met anyone yet who hasn't enjoyed & learnt from it.

After reading it I used to enjoy sitting back and watching the dramas unfold. It is now second nature but it really does help you to see how people manipulate each other, albeit unwittingly in most cases. It is also interesting to watch their reactions when you GIVE them your energy. An excellent read.

[tru3]

Hello Michael

I think you have come to the right place. Like you, so many have been drawn to this community. Our journey can be very lonely but we are not alone as this forum clearly demonstrates.

yes. welcome to the sandbox, michael. come play with us! :) you can certainly join in our rain-dear games!

Can't give you a real hug. Will a cyber one suffice? ((((((((((Michael2))))))))))

good show i am! i felt that one from here. lol

[seamus]

good show i am! i felt that one from here. lol



You might not believe it but I felt it too, and thought, "Naaaah, that's silly"

Okay! I accept! Intent communicates!


*SMOOCH*

Did ya feel that? HAHAHAAA!

I'm losin' it. :p

s

[jimijams]

The ultimate awakening is the realization that we are'nt our ego. The ego is just a construct of beliefs and ideas given to us by someone else, most people will never have an original thought their whole lives.

Once you have awakened it's easy to look around you and realise that everything you have been taught and raised to believe is a lie. Until then though while you are still caught in the ego, anything that condraticts the consensous reality is also an attack on the ego therefore most people see this as an attack on them.

I don't believe it's possible to 'wake' anybody up until they are ready, let them enjoy their BMW's and if or when they decide to evolve they will naturally then seek you out.

[i_am]

You might not believe it but I felt it too, and thought, "Naaaah, that's silly"

Okay! I accept! Intent communicates!


*SMOOCH*

Did ya feel that? HAHAHAAA!

I'm losin' it. :p

s


Feelin' the love baby, feelin' the love. :D :D :D :D Are we intenders or what ??

[mara of the acoma]

All my relatives hide behind an artifical ego. Just blabla, all the time.

They reject me, they feel reminded to real life.

It would have great consequences, they would have to give up their artificial life.

Any idea? I feel lonely, want to hug my relatives, but they hide.

Somehow they are prisoners in an BMW.

As I said, it would have fast consequences. So all relatives live on an Island.

I prefer community. How too achive, with everybody hiding behind this artifical Ego.

P.S. I did the same for years. In school and later.

We are obviously stimulated to "struggle for survival, which is no survival, but slow-motion-death!

Hi Michael. I know how you feel and I'm sure most here do. However do you see that it's not just your relatives hiding behind artificial ego? You are doing it too as we all are. That feeling of rejection you have - that's ego. The judgement you have made that their lives are artificial whereas yours is somewhat more real - that's ego too. The real you is at peace right now.

The only thing you can do, that you will ever be able to do, is to focus on yourself. Be the change that you want in the world and the world will follow. I don't know your background but I know from experience that constantly talking conspiracy to people like that pushes them farther away. You cannot make them want to change their outlook any more than they can make you want to change yours. People have different paths in life and people learn in different ways. There's no right or wrong way, some are longer some are shorter but, in the end, all roads lead to Rome.

[chocky pud]

mara of the acoma makes wonderful sense.
I second everything she said.

Much luck and much love on your journey michael2

[tru3]

Somehow they are prisoners in an BMW.



michael2,

i was that prisoner in a bmw.

i had a corporate job, a house in the 'burgs, a kid and wife. and i was miserable.

see, i was scared all the time. afraid of someone finding out what a fraud i was. feeling numb inside. it was no way to live, for me.

so, i was your family, in a way.

you are the brave one. a brave man dies once, a coward dies a thousand deaths.

i stopped drinking about 9 years ago. my dad has been an alcoholic for years. he is one mean, tough sonuvabitch, hard as nails on the outside.

but every now and then, i can see him peek out from behind the armor, and look rather in wonder at his son, who looked a dragon in the eye that he himself, with his material success and need to be "right", has never been able to stare down.

give it time, michael2. find some support from like-minded and like-hearted friends. we're here but find someone with a pulse lol, someone you can look in the eye, and laugh with. especially laugh with. you are an example to your family. all you have to do is Be your Self. :)

Alien: You're an interesting species. An interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each other.
-from the movie "contact".

namaste.

[Anders Lindman]

The ego is needed I think for us to have individual personalities, but when the ego becomes the only thing it will create a rigid shell that isolates the person.

We should have a facade to present to the world and a private inside, but when the facade becomes an effort in order to protect a suffering inside, then that creates a tremendous inner conflict, and relationships between people living like this are almost bound to be dysfunctional.

[jimijams]

The ego is needed I think for us to have individual personalities, but when the ego becomes the only thing it will create a rigid shell that isolates the person.

We should have a facade to present to the world and a private inside, but when the facade becomes an effort in order to protect a suffering inside, then that creates a tremendous inner conflict, and relationships between people living like this are almost bound to be dysfunctional.
Exactly right Anders, the mind(ego) is a wonderful servant but a terrible master.