A message from Torah true Jews:

[coolfighter]

Judaism dictates subservience to all nations

A message from Torah true Jews:

Please give us a moment of your time to consider the following information.

The Orthodox Jewish leadership and the Torah abiding Jews universally, have fought the ideology of Zionism and the State of “Israel”, since its inception and up until the present day.

What could be the reason for the most devout element of Jewish adherers, to be in such vehement opposition to such a seemingly “holy” and “Jewish” cause, as the State of “Israel”?

The Rabbis constantly declared that Judaism and Zionism are extreme opposites because...

Judaism is a G-dliness and spirituality, Zionism is its transformation into materialism with nationalistic aspirations. The fathers of this relatively new ideology of Zionism (approximately 100 years), have taken the Almighty out of the equation. The Rabbis further declared that Jews are forbidden to have a State of “Israel”, because…

The Jewish people were sent into exile by divine decree. They were then expressly commanded by the Almighty, not to attempt to leave their exilic existence through any human intervention. (Talmud, Tractate Kesuboth, p.111).

The Jewish people are forbidden to oppress another people. The creation of the State of “Israel” came about through, the theft from, subjugation and oppression of, the Palestinian people.

The Rabbis stated, that the State of “Israel” will result in unending pain, suffering and bloodshed. May the Almighty protect His creations.

The State of “Israel” does not speak in the name of Jews, they have stolen the name “Israel” from the Jewish people. Jews are commanded to be loyal citizens in every country in which they reside.

Zionism and the State of “Israel”, is the main cause of the exacerbation of anti Semitism universally.

The government of the illegitimate State of “Israel”, continually attempts to uproot the Torah and its statutes. They persistently oppress the Torah true Jews who reside in its borders.

We pray that all misery in the Holy Land shall come to an end, that Zionism, the root of the suffering, continue to fade from Jewish consciousness, to be replaced by the faith of Torah. Let us all pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantlement of the State of “Israel”. May we merit to see the day when all humanity will serve the Almighty in harmony and peace. Amen.

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Statements/2006July19.cfm

[synergy777]

good post, i have covered this b4.this is what we need, all the good people of every religion and those good people who do not follow religion to come together and unite. these are our brothers.

[lifeofbrian]

Last time I checked the world was larger than that.

The Middle East is not the centre of the Universe.

Please snap out of the religious brainwashing.

[coolfighter]

I hope that most people understand that ZIONISM is not a religion! It's a EVIL GROUP running a propaganda to destroy JEWS and ISLAM and HUMANITY!

let us watch again here.

Rabbi Weiss, Outside Annapolis Peace Confab, Rips Zionism - YouTube

[maggie]

Thank you for that thread.I was looking for a way to express that myself but I didn't know how.The true jews that I know are not even religious but rather spiritual that belive in this world as a matrix and that every thing in the Torah and the Bible is a code.They truly believe that Israel is the cause for so much hate and opposition.It is a shame that true Jews will bear such hatred in the world for the ones that have hichacked the spiritual wisdom that tries to teach that we truly are all one and that division is created by those that have an agenda to supress all ancient wisdom.i think the same is happening with Muslims who are feeling the wrath because of politicians who have created a war to stir more division so that ultimate control can come without any suspecting that it is happening.;)

[synergy777]

zionism, wahabbism and british israelism are all creations of the elite and subservient to the vatican. the unholy trinity

[phantom]

Rabbi Weiss on Fox News saying Israel (Zionism) should not exist

Jewish group says Israel (Zionism) should not exist. - YouTube

[lifeofbrian]

I hope that most people understand that ZIONISM is not a religion! It's a EVIL GROUP running a propaganda to destroy JEWS and ISLAM and HUMANITY!

let us watch again here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9OIqy6md9w

Of course Zionism is not a religion.

It is an experiment. Has been in the pipelines for eons.

Look at yourself. Do you feel the slightest bit "separatist" or "segregationist" at all?

Could you love a "zionist"?

There you go.

Black is white - white is black.

Mission completed.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations Coolfighter:

The Naturei Karta present 1/2 the Solution.

They remain: Talmudic

The Oral & Written Traditions create Separation.


The Pentateuch (first five Books) of the Book of Yahweh contain a Legal Contract between Yahweh and the Twelve Hebrew Tribes that became the Yahdaim (people of Yahweh).

Yahweh gave them the Land of Canaan because He was abhored by some of the Traditions amongst Canaanites.

IE: 'Boiling a Kid in its mothers milk'.

God(s) (El-ohim) worship.

and so forth.


The Yahdaim could have this land IF:

They Keep & OBEY ALL the 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes of the Torah.

To fail to do so would lead to loss of land and displacement.

The Prophets constantly warned the Yahdaim of this.

Subsequently; the Babylonians displaced the Yahdaim.

Cyrus the Great, a Persian, as an agent of Yahweh, restored them to Yahdah (judea)

Subsequently the Romans displaced the Yahdaim.


To Legally retain 'Ownership' of the Land, the Yahdaim(jews) are Legally obliged to Live by Every Word that comes from the Mouth of Yahweh; the 613 Laws, Judgements & Statues of the Torah.

A VERY Robust 'Case' made be made that the current 'State of Israel' are not abiding by the original Covenent..

This Legal Contract is open to Public scrutiny in every Bibles first five Books.

The 'State of Israel' MUST abide by the Stipulations of the Contract, between the Yahdaim and Yahweh, or, Forfeit the Land.

Is this not the Solution?


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[coolfighter]

Of course Zionism is not a religion.

It is an experiment. Has been in the pipelines for eons.

Look at yourself. Do you feel the slightest bit "separatist" or "segregationist" at all?

Could you love a "zionist"?

There you go.

Mission completed.

I know and i agree with you as most people i know agree with that, but some people do not want to understand! that's why i have to clear up this thing's to them. And i believe that WW2 was one step of the propaganda done on the Jews and the Muslims for involving them in a war for more then 60 years.

And the funny thing is that EUROPEANS are watching and giving help for both!

Read here From Vatican Assassins book!

The core and essence of the Middle East conflict

For more than 75 years, western diplomats have been coming up with �peace initiatives� to solve the Arab � Israeli conflict. Yet they always fail.


Why? What keeps the Middle East conflict going?

If we are going to devise a solution, we must first understand why the conflict continues to exist. To do this, we have to view the situation from the top down, rather than from the bottom up.

Granted, this is completely opposite to the way most Jews and Arabs have been conditioned to look at �the situation.� Jews focus on the damage Arab/Palestinians cause, and believe that damage to be the cause of the conflict, when it is really only a result of it. They view the conflict and its origins from the bottom up. Arabs/Palestinians concentrate on the damage Israel causes and believe this to be the cause of the conflict, when it is really only a result of it. They too relate to the situation from the bottom up.


To understand what really causes the Middle East conflict to continue, one must look at the issue from the top down.

To get a more accurate picture of what lies behind the continued existence of the conflict, let�s acknowledge these five factors which serve to perpetuate � rather than solve � the problem:

1) The vested interests of the Foreign Elite (FE): There is a �third entity� in the conflict in addition to the Israelis and the Arabs: the foreigners (in order of importance, the US, Britain, China, France, Germany). Without them, there would be no Middle East conflict because it is the foreign influence that keeps the �situation� from being resolved. Unfortunately, both Palestinian Arabs and Israeli Jews believe they are each other�s worst enemy � without considering the third element � the foreigners � that is the enemy of both. The thing that Arabs and Jews have most in common is this common enemy, yet the leaders on both sides (not being legitimate or independent) tell their people that the other side is their number one enemy. Hence the conflict continues.

2) Control of Middle East oil: The foreigners interfere in the Arab-Israeli conflict in order to exploit and control the vast petroleum resources in the region. If there were no oil, there would be no petrodollars to recycle; the foreigners would have no reason to dominate the region.

3) Weapons sales: If there was a worldwide ban on arms sales to the Middle East, there would be no more �radical Arab dictators� with modern arms. If the foreigners stopped selling advanced weaponry to nations of the Middle East, the conflict would end.

4) The mainstream media: If the mainstream media in the West stopped reporting on the �search for peace in the Middle East,� peace would soon be found. By keeping the region�s �unstable� image alive, the media, as the sole source of information by which people can formulate their perceptions, provide an excuse for the foreigners to interfere, and at the same time serve to convince everyone that these western nations want peace, despite the fact that they have been �seeking� it for over 50 years, in vain. The media never question the intentions or agendas of the FE. The media thus provide the glue which keeps the conflict going. Without the mainstream media constantly reporting on the conflict, there would be peace, as everyone would forget that the Middle East is �unstable� and thus in need of �stabilizing� via new �peace initiatives.�

5) Corrupt national leadership of both sides: It isn�t peace between Arabs and Jews that interests the FE, but rather the continuation of the conflict. The way they do that is by corrupting/controlling the national leaders of both sides. The reason why legitimate, popular leaders are not at the helms of countries in the Middle East is because the FE will topple any leader who doesn�t cater to their desires before the needs of their own people. If Middle East leaders are selected and deemed popular by their own people, the FE will demonize them as �radicals/extremists,� �terrorist leaders� or �enemies of peace,� and thus de-legitimize them in the world arena. How can genuine co-existence take hold if the leaders of both sides are more interested in pleasing their foreign masters than their own peoples?

Unless these five basic factors are understood, the true causes that extend the conflict will never be understood. Instead, each side will go on blaming the other � seeking to take the high moral ground and convince their own people and those from abroad that they are right, and the other side is wrong. This will lead only to more death and destruction.

The technique is called �divide and rule,� and it has been a favorite of the FE for decades.

Why Is There A The Middle East Conflict?

Let's deconstruct the conflict and look at all its parameters:

1) The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is how the pro-Arab camp refers to it. It claims Israel is oppressing the Palestinians and that, as a result, the entire Middle East remains unstable, and will continue to be unstable unless the Palestinians have their own state.

2) The Arab-Israeli conflict is how Israel defines the situation. Until the Oslo process began, Israel claimed the conflict existed because: �The Arabs don�t recognize Israel�s right to exist.� Now Israel says the conflict continues because the Palestinian leaders �support terrorism.�

These conclusions are fed to the Arab and Israelis peoples so as to enable them each to take the high moral ground and focus their hatred on each other. And this in turn directs their attention away from their number one enemy: the foreigners.

By having the Arabs believe Israel is at fault for �oppressing� the Palestinians, while having Israelis believe the conflict exists because the Arabs fail to recognize the Jewish state or seek its destruction (i.e. support terrorism) the foreign interests succeed in hiding the bigger picture: what the foreigners are doing when it comes to controlling the Arab nations� only natural resource, and how they are selling massive amount of weapons to the oil-producing regimes.

To keep up this fraud, the foreign elements must control the national leaders of both peoples, and ensure that the mainstream media don�t stray too far from the cover stories: �Israel is acting immorally against the Palestinians� or �Palestinian leaders support terrorism.�

Creating either a viable Palestinian state or peace between Arabs and Jews is not the goal of the foreigners. Whether stated publicly or not, their intention is to extend the Middle East conflict, not resolve it. Unless this basic truth is understood by Arabs and Jews, the foreign elements, via the mainstream media, will continue to manipulate the perception of both sides as to why the conflict continues.

Continue here
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/mideast_conflict.htm

[coolfighter]

zionism, wahabbism and british israelism are all creations of the elite and subservient to the vatican. the unholy trinity

Thanks bro. i know that those group's has infiltrated everyone and set destruction for all humanity! that's why we should fight back and set the destruction of their PYRAMID!

[optimus pigpot]

Last time I checked the world was larger than that.

The Middle East is not the centre of the Universe.

Please snap out of the religious brainwashing.

Now that's the point. Well said life of brian

[optimus pigpot]

zionism, wahabbism and british israelism are all creations of the elite and subservient to the vatican. the unholy trinity

Sorry mate, note quite right there.. The invented everything from Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Please Synergy777 stop defending these religions because you are legitimising them and all it's doing is amplifying the problem.

[coolfighter]

Sorry mate, note quite right there.. The invented everything from Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Please Synergy777 stop defending these religions because you are legitimising them and all it's doing is amplifying the problem.

Synergy777 is not defending anyone, he is clearing things as i do! the legitimizing you are talking about its when THE MEDIA mix JEWS with ZIONISM.

[optimus pigpot]

Synergy777 is not defending anyone, he is clearing things as i do! the legitimizing you are talking about its when THE MEDIA mix JEWS with ZIONISM.

You are not clearing anything.. Judaism, Zionism, Socialism all a load of cartoon mumbo jumbo bollocks.

Will somebody just give this religion shit a break. Icke said it wasa load of bollocks so why are you now interpreting what he said about it.

Judaism is once again like Christianity a load of old shit....

There you go, glad we all agree......

[coolfighter]

You are not clearing anything.. Judaism, Zionism, Socialism all a load of cartoon mumbo jumbo bollocks.

Will somebody just give this religion shit a break. Icke said it wasa load of bollocks so why are you now interpreting what he said about it.

Judaism is once again like Christianity a load of old shit....

There you go, glad we all agree......

The topic isn't about if religion is true or not! it's about explaining what is Zionism really are!

[coolfighter]

I don't know if anyone read this article from Vatican Assassins?

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/mideast_conflict.htm

please make a comment after!

[optimus pigpot]

The topic isn't about if religion is true or not! it's about explaining what is Zionism really are!

Strange how you're thread has now changed. All about religion...... And the truth shall set them free.... Not a fucking chance.........

And my name is coolfighter and I am five years old, and when I grow up I want to be a fighter that's cool and I wil call myself cool fighter and will drink cool drinks and...and ..... my parents say I have to go... now

Wankbot

[coolfighter]

Strange how you're thread has now changed. All about religion...... And the truth shall set them free.... Not a fucking chance.........

And my name is coolfighter and I am five years old, and when I grow up I want to be a fighter that's cool and I wil call myself cool fighter and will drink cool drinks and...and ..... my parents say I have to go... now

Wankbot

Hehehe i am offended! :p

What's wrong in being a 5 years old? What's wrong in being a dreamer in finding a way to help my fellow people? What's wrong if i tell you i refuse to be a sheep?

This is the meaning of COOLFIGHTER! :P

Piggy! ;)

http://www.craftideas.info/assets/images/Crafts_for_Kids_-_Clay_Pot_Pig.jpg

[optimus pigpot]

Hehehe i am offended! :p

What's wrong in being a 5 years old? What's wrong in being a dreamer in finding a way to help my fellow people? What's wrong if i tell you i refuse to be a sheep?

This is the meaning of COOLFIGHTER! :P

Piggy! ;)

http://www.craftideas.info/assets/images/Crafts_for_Kids_-_Clay_Pot_Pig.jpg

That's not everybody. Keep your shit to yourself.........

[coolfighter]

That's not everybody. Keep your shit to yourself.........


pigpot, i think you need to go back to your cage and lock yourself and stay where is your right place. because everything within your mentality is shit! that's obvious.

As for me, i am fighting! i am not afraid from your type or any other type of morons.

Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world

[synergy777]

optimus, i like have everyone have flaws. my flaw is having a love/loyalty to a source/creator. i see the corruptions of religions, i see the sources non-intervention in easing peoples suffering. i see the reign of evil that goes unchallenged on this earth. i get pissed off at the source, who is supposedly merciful/benevolent, but refrains from showing these qualities to his suffering children/creations, why does the source refrain, its for reasons i do not know nor understand.

why don't shyaler, icke, and al, our messiah/enlightend ones help us, gives us real techniques, they don't.

i know the elite have controlled these religions, i know there are evil forces. i know icke said religions were created, but i for one do not believe everything icke has said, you must discern and make your own opinion and not follow ickes or anyone elses views blindly. look at his brian desbrough stuff, whites are from mars. aryans are a culture indigenous to india, so that whites being from mars is bollocks to be frank. we are all one race. the complete omission of vedic culture, it being global from nordic countries, celtic countries, germany/england, the americas etc. i know that mithras/sol invictus have been fused with yashuah to create jesus.

icke says reptillians, the bible says dragon/serpents/fallen, samething. i am not enlightend, nor do i have access to superpowers to change the world for better, to ease peoples sufferings. if i had these powers, i would help straight away, but i haven't, so i am like everyone else in this world. this is why i get pissed off with these messiah types like shayler, if you are the messiah, go out and heal, help people, go out and defeat evil, bring peace, they don't. the proof is in their actions, they don't do shit, all they want is fame, power, adulation. when they should be out in the streets, the war zones, in the places where people suffer and they should be helping them.

i do not follow the pancea/placebo of the law of attraction, you can think/create goodthings. i like everyone else is lost, searching for truth, dealing with many subjects all at the same time.

you know what, the source i do not know/live with the connection, but i would like to, i want to. maybe only a few, elect get saved and the rest of us perish. but you know what, let the source and satan have their elite power games, whilst us lowly humans suffer. i will do what i can do for my fellow humans, animals, planet, despite their power games.

everyone has free will, a choice, mine is do right, to be good, as that is all i can do.

1love/peace

[optimus pigpot]

The sources or original creators here are false and unprovable. The human race blindly carries on placing faith in them and the status quo remains the same. What I challenge coolfighter and don't accept unlike you is SHIT. Religion is unprovable and thus shit. So if shit is shit then fine I don't accept it. Obviously some people like shit, just not me that's all!

And coolfighter just a quick one tell everybody who really had a fight with last... You aren't fighting anyone are you.... The last fight you had was with your MOM when she sent you to bed early because you left your sprouts at the dinner table... Let's be honest......

[boots]

All religons are the divisons of man/ego But there is a creator/source science has come to a point af discovery ie the strong and weak nuclear force the electromagnetic forces and gravity with the grand unifying theory but they cannot find this 5th forces that binds them together and that it faith to me it's like water you can use it anyway you want but it's there like or not. Only a child fights with a child see your self in the mirror.Really there no need for insults.