Montezuma thought Cortes was Quetzacoatl returned,

[humanswin]

Was he right?.......When Hernan Cortes invaded Tenochititlan(present day Mexico city),the story goes,he was thought to be the Aztecs' great feathered serpent god Quetzacoatal returned.Was the great leader of the Aztec empire Montezuma mistaken.He would surely be familiar with that god,as his images were all over his temples and cities.Was he mesmerized and confused by the white men with fire sticks who were invading his teritory?Was it ,he (cortez) has a beard ..He must be Quetzacoatal! or did Cortes have a little somethin somethin for him.Would a great leader give up his empire because someone looked strange.I would think he would have to be shown a sign of some powers to be sure Cortez was a real god....monty:"you are the great god quetzacoatal returned,welcome"...cortez:"what the hell are you talkin...oh yeah,yeah..thats it i am quetzaco whatchamacallit..your god..thats it now give me your kingdom"..maybe he was shown more ...................the conquest and destruction of the people of the americas was undertaken by king Ferdinand of Aragon and his queen,when you say Ferdinand of Aragon it doesn't sound like much there.How it was said in his language though was ferdinand d'aragon..the first a is easily dropped to sound like dragon .Cortes was sent by Ferdinand's grandson Charles V ( a one man EU if there ever was),but still sent by D'aragon bloodline.Sent on a bloody mission to conquer people who worshipped dragon type gods, and sacrificed to them their blood........................The Spanish Conquistadors were known for their record and document keeping.For example they kept all the sacred documents of the Mayan civilisation in a roaring fire!..Any history of the period of conquest must be looked at through a filter.My contention is that Cortes entered Mexico with someone of the reptilian bloodline as an envoy..making his conquest,which would be nearly impossible considering the odds of his vastly outnumbered expedition,successful. At least for the spanish crown ..for the natives of America it was disaster and the longest running genoicide in recorded history.

[octopusrex]

Basically, the Gods conspired to destroy the Aztec Nation only to make it raise from the ashes on 2012.

[woghd]

Was he right?.......When Hernan Cortes invaded Tenochititlan(present day Mexico city),the story goes,he was thought to be the Aztecs' great feathered serpent god Quetzacoatal returned.Was the great leader of the Aztec empire Montezuma mistaken.He would surely be familiar with that god,as his images were all over his temples and cities.Was he mesmerized and confused by the white men with fire sticks who were invading his teritory?Was it ,he (cortez) has a beard ..He must be Quetzacoatal! or did Cortes have a little somethin somethin for him.Would a great leader give up his empire because someone looked strange.I would think he would have to be shown a sign of some powers to be sure Cortez was a real god....monty:"you are the great god quetzacoatal returned,welcome"...cortez:"what the hell are you talkin...oh yeah,yeah..thats it i am quetzaco whatchamacallit..your god..thats it now give me your kingdom"..maybe he was shown more ...................the conquest and destruction of the people of the americas was undertaken by king Ferdinand of Aragon and his queen,when you say Ferdinand of Aragon it doesn't sound like much there.How it was said in his language though was ferdinand d'aragon..the first a is easily dropped to sound like dragon .Cortes was sent by Ferdinand's grandson Charles V ( a one man EU if there ever was),but still sent by D'aragon bloodline.Sent on a bloody mission to conquer people who worshipped dragon type gods, and sacrificed to them their blood........................The Spanish Conquistadors were known for their record and document keeping.For example they kept all the sacred documents of the Mayan civilisation in a roaring fire!..Any history of the period of conquest must be looked at through a filter.My contention is that Cortes entered Mexico with someone of the reptilian bloodline as an envoy..making his conquest,which would be nearly impossible considering the odds of his vastly outnumbered expedition,successful. At least for the spanish crown ..for the natives of America it was disaster and the longest running genoicide in recorded history.

This is compelling. Perhaps Cortez himself was a shapeshifter. The story as layed out in the history books makes no sense. But if Cortez (or somebody with him) went into a fullblown shapeshift right in front of Montezuma, that would have done the trick.

Archangel

[humanswin]

Thanks ,I told you I would get my feet wet a little and here I am to stay.I will try my best to contribute to this forum that I have always respected...as for the conquistadors..excactly..when I tell the story,I use the words ba bam for when I say that someone showed them a shift change in tenotitchlan..here is your god. I hope it wasnt cortes who had the bloodline(instead perhaps a d'aragon).Besides native american I am a descendant of a famous family of conquistadors,like I'm not conflicted enough,I really want to let go of any fear and tell people my family name someday..it is well documented and I think there might be something there..but geez I hope we were all human..I know I am.

[woghd]

You should write a long version of this and put it on Realshapeshifters.com

Arch

[humanswin]

I love this place! You can write about an historical event and try to tie it in contextually to reptilians and the cricket chirps are resounding.Then if you ever want responses you can always put up a post accusing,oh lets say a very beautiful mexican actress of being a reptilian with no apparent evidence,and the people will definitely say something here...I can use this place as my own meditation room,where I can bounce things off myself!..What do you think self? Love it!

[humanswin]

Pretty cool,I knew one of my family was Pancho Villas general.Villa didn't really have generals,but he was his personal bodyguard and there was no higher honor...he was killed by George Patton.That was how Patton first really made his bones..they say it was heroic how he killed him.I think they exaggerated and Patton ambushed him and they played it up,I'll never know...I did not know one of my family found the grand canyon,not sure he was a direct relation but same family and village I think.He was a conquistador,the first european to view the and explore the grand canyon.The place would not be revisited by non natives for almost 150 years..wonder why? ...... The most famous one in my family was arguably Mexico's greatest leader.I am not proud that he was a 33 degree mason,but I am proud that he spent years roaming and walking around mexico.He would go from village to village ,hanging out with the peasants and farmers....Mexico is very famous for its political corruption..but this great leader lived in a simple home after his career.He lived a simple life,visited the poor,whose lives he had made better than any mexican leader ,with his sweeping social reforms.I would like to think he did right by the people and lived a simple life because he rejected the masonry he was caught in.I too have been known for not caring about money and living a simple life.Thanks to this forum,this is my therapy..I have to work out what it all means.

[woghd]

Pancho Villa?
seriously?

Arch

[woghd]

I love this place! You can write about an historical event and try to tie it in contextually to reptilians and the cricket chirps are resounding.Then if you ever want responses you can always put up a post accusing,oh lets say a very beautiful mexican actress of being a reptilian with no apparent evidence,and the people will definitely say something here...I can use this place as my own meditation room,where I can bounce things off myself!..What do you think self? Love it!

Tell me about it!

Call Bush a Reptilian, and the animals are all over you like hair on an ape. But find some goofy maybe-sorta non-eye-evidence in one eye on one vid with ICKE, and parade it's praises up and down the line. There are so many disinfo agents in this forum it's ridiculous.

Archangel

[hagbard_celine]

Cotes landed in Mexico in 1521. In the native calender that's "1 reed", the very year Qetzalcoatl said he'd arrive. History says this was just good luck. Cortes got there in that year simply by chance and that nobody in the West knew anything about Mexico and the Aztecs. I doubt it. The secret socieities knew about the New World so why shouldn't they know about Mexico? they may well have briefed cortes in before he departed and told him what to do and what to wear etc. Are we to believe that it was all chance? Well the chances of someone landing in that specific year are 52/1. Very steep I'd say.

[humanswin]

Thanks Mr hagbard,I think it was seminal point in history,where would the world be now? ...Archangel I am dead serious about pancho villa,you could look it up if you like..we are very proud of that,and the story of Patton killing him is famous and on the internet.The grand canyon discovery is pissing me off,it is barely mentioned anywhere..he discovered the grand canyon for godsakes,and barely a mention anywhere.Think about it,no europeans went back for 150 years,they say the grand canyon has all sorts of hidden underground tunnels and more.What wierd things did my ancestor see?Why didn't they revist it for a century and a half?.... Also my family name is written on the maps.I though I would research it.....The family village in southern spain is not locted on any special parallel.The cities named for my family in the new world are.The two largest of them are located on the parallel of a whole number.Research how the masons? laid out cities and names on specific parallels. Cities like Washington DC,Columbus Ohio were put on these parallels.The funny thing is they are always off by a few degrees or minutes.I researched many large cities for several hours.The closet any cities really came to hitting the excact degree were my names cities.I am sure that one of the cities is for the greatest mexican president..the 33 or 32? degree mason who roamed the country and visited the peasants who he helped live a better life,come on that is very cool!...The family passed down the story of pancho villas bodyguard,it can easily be verified...all the rest of the info I got off the net.I would never post this if I couldn't readily verify all I write here....I am kind of writing this to myself,I dont think anyone cares much here.....Like I said you can finger a dead mexican actress(the hottest old lady I ever saw by the way) who cant defend herself...call reptilian nigggas and not raise an eyebrow(except mine)..like Patty said (you know who that is archangel) maybe there are a lot of racist here and thats why there is a vibe here.

[woghd]

Cotes landed in Mexico in 1521. In the native calender that's "1 reed", the very year Qetzalcoatl said he'd arrive. History says this was just good luck. Cortes got there in that year simply by chance and that nobody in the West knew anything about Mexico and the Aztecs. I doubt it. The secret socieities knew about the New World so why shouldn't they know about Mexico? they may well have briefed cortes in before he departed and told him what to do and what to wear etc. Are we to believe that it was all chance? Well the chances of someone landing in that specific year are 52/1. Very steep I'd say.

Only 52 to 1? I put the chances of this meeting a lot longer than that! Cortez could have landed ANYWHERE! Or been destroyed on the way. The more I research this, the more obvious it is (at least to me) that he had help. He knew when and where to go, just what to say, and if you believe in reptilians, probably had a shapeshifter with him. And if you DON'T believe in reptilians, he was certainly able to put on enough of a show to convince Montezuma, who was no idiot. This indicates prior preparation in a strong way.

Archangel

[humanswin]

Hey archangel...kinda funny how you take interest in what I write here thanks.I have always been questioning of you..I still have my questions,but I feel i would be writing to myself(which I dont mind!)..Anyway was up late researching my family name and I am a jew!! At first I was like WTF..no way..as I read the list of names I was like not me..NO WAY!...Talk about an unsettling feeling,to not even know what you are,even though my family history is documented.I knew of ashkenazism and the whole khaazar thing.What I didn't know was that my family and many others from southern spain were all sephardic jews..kinda true jews,or I think the ones from the holy land of the mideast( I think..I dont know very much about jewish religion)...I dont know much because it was stolen from my family and many many others.Thanks a lot inquisition...make all the jews of spain convert to roman catholicism or be tortured or murdered or expelled.Put us in a system where 500 years later we would be subjected to the mind control and abuse of the catholic chuch.Those who know me know I am on a mission,maybe I have a chip on my shoulder,but I didn't put it there. I am learning to be more loving and understanding..but dammit I am more pissed and determend to not accept this system.The madness has to end..I am part native of the land I live(and it sure aint india and i wont attach american to the end EVER!) part native and now the part I though I knew so well is bullshit! I rejected roman catholicism..first one in my immediate family to do so..even though they know about the abuse and corruption they still folow it! Now I reject it even more...slag off! torquemada..kiss my ass D'aragons..you are lucky I wasnt there..Its ok I am here to fight you now.

[humanswin]

I think I was kind of being a dick when I said there might be racists here...what do I know...there might be racist anywhere.....I read the jewish name list and was thinking please not me....not because i dont like jews,because I didn't want to think my whole heritage was confused..denied? what the hell.....maybe I am a racist...I know I was ignorant about judaism...but come on how many of you people knew that there were a lot of jews in spain and that many spanish people were jews? well there are a lot of smart people here,so maybe a lot of you knew ....They definitely never teach you that in church or school and even on truth sites there is not talk of that....As for playing the race card I reccomend not to write when you are tired or feeling bad for yourself,at least I shouldn't....I finally changed my YT channel description this morning and it said all day.."This the battle of nedermore"...neder more indeed :)

[hagbard_celine]

Only 52 to 1? I put the chances of this meeting a lot longer than that! Cortez could have landed ANYWHERE! Or been destroyed on the way. The more I research this, the more obvious it is (at least to me) that he had help. He knew when and where to go, just what to say, and if you believe in reptilians, probably had a shapeshifter with him. And if you DON'T believe in reptilians, he was certainly able to put on enough of a show to convince Montezuma, who was no idiot. This indicates prior preparation in a strong way.

Archangel

Yes, the chances of the timing were 52/1, but add the other factors and the probabilities drop. Cortes landed in the place where legend said Qetzalcoatl would land, he was dressed like him and wore a white feather like him. I've no doubt Cortes had insider knowlege from the Illuminati mystery schools.

[woghd]

Yes, the chances of the timing were 52/1, but add the other factors and the probabilities drop. Cortes landed in the place where legend said Qetzalcoatl would land, he was dressed like him and wore a white feather like him. I've no doubt Cortes had insider knowlege from the Illuminati mystery schools.

I couldn't agree more.
This subject deserves a lot more attention. One could spend a long time, just researching this alone.

Archangel

[humanswin]

My name is very important to somebody besides me...they put it on the tropic of cancer.It is in the middle of the 41,000 year cycle flucuation.The only city laid out in the new world in such a way.My family member who was the greatest leader of mexico is located (that is his city is located) on a different parallel,further south.That city is the key to the NAU plans.Like I said I dont blame him..he spent his time with the peasants leading a humble life.Though the masons used him and the power of our name..he rejected their wickedness and we will restore our name for goodness.:)