kel1
20-12-2010, 12:35 PM
I have heard a lot about Agenda 21, and how it is one of the best bits of info out there on population reduction etc and how it wants to get rid of 80% of people etc and how it is all laid out...
so i decided to read it for myself, as i have always wanted to and never bothered! Anyway, i have been trudging through lots of it today and just can't really find anything particularly 'meaty'! Admittedly i am not all the way through, i have skim read a lot and got to the population bit. I don't trust the UN at all, but most of what i am seeing is about sustainable development and not impacting the environment.
A lot of what i have read does make sense- don't impact the environment, family planning that supports local custom and doesn't invade anyone's freedom -
"Governments should take active steps to implement programmes to establish and strengthen preventive and curative health facilities that include women-centred, women-managed, safe and effective reproductive health care and affordable, accessible services, as appropriate, for the responsible planning of family size, in keeping with freedom, dignity and personally held values and taking into account ethical and cultural considerations. "
also this
"Governments should take active steps to implement, as a matter of urgency, in accordance with country-specific conditions and legal systems, measures to ensure that women and men have the same right to decide freely and responsibly on the number and spacing of their children, to have access to the information, education and means, as appropriate, to enable them to exercise this right in keeping with their freedom, dignity and personally held values taking into account ethical and cultural considerations."
This quote above doesn't say anything about not being allowed to have children or trying to stop people having any, just to have the education etc to make an informed decision. Many people don't have access to info on STIs, condoms, planned pregancy etc in many countries and i think this is what it is talking about to an extent.
It says cities are built up and there needs to be more municipal support, says women should have more rights, there should be research done regarding infrastructure etc.
"Recognizing that large increases in the size and number of cities will occur in developing countries under any likely population scenario, greater attention should be given to preparing for the needs, in particular of women and children, for improved municipal management and local government"
I am not implying i believe this Agenda 21 is all innocent and that the Government care for me/us - that is ridiculous! But, the way everyone talks about it you would think there would be some interesting/horrifying passages (albeit guilded so not to be so obvious!) but i just can't see it!
I am trying to read between the lines, almost looking for more interesting stuff and not finding much of concern. If someone could point me in the direction of specific passages and chapters i would be most grateful. I have heard a lot about this, and would like to see it for myself. There is lot of stuff on websites about 80% reduction, but no whole quotes. It seems to be a huge basis for argument on the whole eugenics thing and i just want to learn more. I watched Endgame ages ago and it was a brilliant film, mentioned a lot about population control and is an interesting subject re the NWO.
Thanks in advance.
so i decided to read it for myself, as i have always wanted to and never bothered! Anyway, i have been trudging through lots of it today and just can't really find anything particularly 'meaty'! Admittedly i am not all the way through, i have skim read a lot and got to the population bit. I don't trust the UN at all, but most of what i am seeing is about sustainable development and not impacting the environment.
A lot of what i have read does make sense- don't impact the environment, family planning that supports local custom and doesn't invade anyone's freedom -
"Governments should take active steps to implement programmes to establish and strengthen preventive and curative health facilities that include women-centred, women-managed, safe and effective reproductive health care and affordable, accessible services, as appropriate, for the responsible planning of family size, in keeping with freedom, dignity and personally held values and taking into account ethical and cultural considerations. "
also this
"Governments should take active steps to implement, as a matter of urgency, in accordance with country-specific conditions and legal systems, measures to ensure that women and men have the same right to decide freely and responsibly on the number and spacing of their children, to have access to the information, education and means, as appropriate, to enable them to exercise this right in keeping with their freedom, dignity and personally held values taking into account ethical and cultural considerations."
This quote above doesn't say anything about not being allowed to have children or trying to stop people having any, just to have the education etc to make an informed decision. Many people don't have access to info on STIs, condoms, planned pregancy etc in many countries and i think this is what it is talking about to an extent.
It says cities are built up and there needs to be more municipal support, says women should have more rights, there should be research done regarding infrastructure etc.
"Recognizing that large increases in the size and number of cities will occur in developing countries under any likely population scenario, greater attention should be given to preparing for the needs, in particular of women and children, for improved municipal management and local government"
I am not implying i believe this Agenda 21 is all innocent and that the Government care for me/us - that is ridiculous! But, the way everyone talks about it you would think there would be some interesting/horrifying passages (albeit guilded so not to be so obvious!) but i just can't see it!
I am trying to read between the lines, almost looking for more interesting stuff and not finding much of concern. If someone could point me in the direction of specific passages and chapters i would be most grateful. I have heard a lot about this, and would like to see it for myself. There is lot of stuff on websites about 80% reduction, but no whole quotes. It seems to be a huge basis for argument on the whole eugenics thing and i just want to learn more. I watched Endgame ages ago and it was a brilliant film, mentioned a lot about population control and is an interesting subject re the NWO.
Thanks in advance.