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midwich cuckoo
05-03-2007, 12:54 AM
Saw this on YouTube and had to post it here. I don't know how real this is and I don't have anymore info on it other than that it was posted on Rense.com -
Ancient Structure On The Moon Filmed By Armstrong, 1969
Ancient Structure On The Moon Filmed By Armstrong, 1969 - YouTube=
Quote "Normally it lasts 14min. What you see is the reason behind all this rush to land on the moon before USSR. It was bombed a few years later by those who decide for us"
Saw this on YouTube and had to post it here. I don't know how real this is and I don't have anymore info on it other than that it was posted on Rense.com -
Ancient Structure On The Moon Filmed By Armstrong, 1969
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWkGTJEK0Mc&mode=related&search=
Quote "Normally it lasts 14min. What you see is the reason behind all this rush to land on the moon before USSR. It was bombed a few years later by those who decide for us"
Maybe this was the real reason for the faked moon landing footage :D
thirdwave
05-03-2007, 11:21 AM
yeah I don't think they went to the moon when they said they did... but this could still be footage of the moon as I think there are people having breakfast on the moon as we speak...
h1s_l0rdsh1p
05-03-2007, 11:28 AM
What do we plan to do about it?
yeah I don't think they went to the moon when they said they did... but this could still be footage of the moon as I think there are people having breakfast on the moon as we speak...
LOL I don't know if they went when they said they did, before or after. I think I believe that they did go but it sure as shit wasn't the crap they showed us.
Did you hear about the coke bottle? Apparently in the first pictures that 'came through' there was a coke bottle seen by a few people around the world. Next time that footage was shown, guess what? :eek: it wasn't there.
It was that darn bushman from The Gods must be Crazy. He actually did throw the coke bottle off the edge of the earth and it landed on the moon. There, All explained!
midwich cuckoo
05-03-2007, 02:52 PM
Here's a couple more quotes from NAlexo who posted the video -
"This structure was situated north of Moltke crater, at the Sea of Tranquility. NASA got its first close inspection through Surveyor 5 in 1967 collecting 19,000 photos of it. It was 60m long with 12 windows on each side. The materials' consistency was 60% oxygen and 0.01% hydrogen. The prevalent wear of the walls along with the lack of atmosphere suggest an age of thousands of years. This along with other remnants were nuked for not disturbing our social upheaval."
"Armstrong's heartbeat reached 160bpm. NASA's explanation was that he was carrying 25kgs worth of samples, yet these are no more than 4kgs on the moon. Initially they were amazed by an array of landed discs perfectly alligned and tall beings in white suits. This is all recorded in their transmission to Houston which advises them to turn around and start working. Who do you think is going to go broke if existence of advanced noble species breaks out and we all unify on this planet?"
Anyone recognise the logo/lettering at the top left of this frame of footage -
http://www.rense.com/general75/lunarsnapshot.jpg
As pointed out here - http://www.rense.com/general75/logo.htm
mercuryrapids
05-03-2007, 11:56 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
better quality. I think it was shown on Mexican TV. Looks very fake to me...:rolleyes:
hagbard_celine
06-03-2007, 12:35 AM
Maybe this was the real reason for the faked moon landing footage :D
Could be, or maybe this is footage from the "surrogate" astronauts that slipped through the net.
teslafire
06-03-2007, 01:51 AM
That film is not film, its a video with a 24 frame filter and a standard "olde tyme film scratches" filter (which is availble even on iMovie).
The zoom and the light pulsing give it away, not to mention the 'stagey' feeling.
Videocameras weren't invented until the late 70's. All other moon footage is shot film.
Tis a fake.
midwich cuckoo
06-03-2007, 01:54 AM
That film is not film, its a video with a 24 frame filter and a standard "olde tyme film scratches" filter (which is availble even on iMovie).
The zoom and the light pulsing give it away, not to mention the 'stagey' feeling.
Videocameras weren't invented until the late 70's. All other moon footage is shot film.
Tis a fake.
Thanks for clearing that up. :)
graflok
06-03-2007, 03:31 AM
That film is not film, its a video
The person who posted in on YouTube said, "It comes from a very credible non-US documentary, which explains the TV logo on the top left corner and the average resolution. I believe everyone should know."
So, it would appear it was video'd off a TV screen.
... and a standard "olde tyme film scratches" filter (which is availble even on iMovie).
I don't see any way to tell that it was artificially aged via a filter.
The zoom and the light pulsing give it away
Not inconsistent if it was video'd off a TV screen
... not to mention the 'stagey' feeling.
I don't know what is meant by that. I see nothing particularly "stagey."
Videocameras weren't invented until the late 70's. All other moon footage is shot film.
Again, not inconsistent if it was video's off a TV screen which it appears to have been.
Tis a fake.
Looks pretty real to me. Especially the movement of the other astonaut across the frame.
grafok
mercuryrapids
06-03-2007, 09:12 AM
Looks to me like the astronaut holding the camera is using a SteadyCam.... cumbersome bit of kit for a Moonshot? ;)
klinker
06-03-2007, 09:44 AM
I don't buy it this footage. I'd like to think that there are superior beings out there who will come and help us humans unify before we destroy ourselves into extinction but that remains a pipe dream. ;)
midwich cuckoo
06-03-2007, 11:22 PM
Here's an article on this moon video -
http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=300&Itemid=70
midwich cuckoo
08-03-2007, 03:03 PM
Armstrong Moon Video
Update - Is This An Experiment?
From Ted Twietmeyer
3-7-7 In looking at it closely, there are two big errors in it which proves this a hoax, or a re-enactment. This one too, is always out of focus like the first one. Perhaps that's to prevent anyone from seeing mistakes in the details.
Here is a short analysis of the video.
1. At 5:19 into this video, an "astronaut" is shown from the back. His "life support pack" is a long, sharp cornered box-like object without any fittings, tubing, pipes or controls. Real environmental Apollo backpacks were relatively short compared to this, wider, covered in wrinkly white insulating blanket and quite complex. Real environmental back packs didn't extend almost down to their knees as this one does.
2. Astronaut appears to be pawing away at the ground with some type of sample tool. If he was a REAL astronaut, he would know the tool is to pick up SAMPLES and not use it like a rake. When you are as far from the Lander as they depict (apparently several hundred feet) and on limited oxygen you don't waste time pawing at the ground.
3. At 4:40, a Lunar Lander is visible through a framed window ! Most of the video is one long cut, but there is an abrupt scene change near the end at 4:40. The Lunar Lander looks like a scale model on a stage.
4. At the very end, we see some men at control panels very briefly. This is known in theater as "the selling" which makes it convincing. In drama or film, when someone is punching someone else they never, ever make contact. But it is up to the person being "struck" to sell the idea they were hit by their reaction. The "sell" used in this video is a bit more cleverly concealed, using the fake lander and about 2 quick seconds of footage in a control room.
Is this supposed to be a re-enactment of something that actually happened? or is it just a hoax?
The very strange thing about the original video I posted is that numerous readers wrote me who could not post comments to it as I could not. Could this video be a covert a psyc. test of the populace to see how they react to proof of alien life? Even though comments didn't post - it certainly doesn't guarantee no one has ever received or read them.
If you were doing psyc. research, you would want all new video viewers to see the video first WITHOUT being able to see anyone else's comments. And this is exactly what happens. But at the new youtube posting given above, people are able to make comments and all have called it hoax. Some viewers comments show that they may know where the footage was taken as well. Numerous rense readers have already written me, telling me that ET1 is a Greek television station. Ted Twietmeyer??
http://www.rense.com/general75/tib.htm
edelweiss pirate
08-03-2007, 04:24 PM
We Never Went to the Moon - YouTube
That was ace though... Chilling...
And this one:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Has absolutely convinced me that we DID NOT go to the moon...
The first half is cheesy (and a bit Biblical) but the second part is just astounding, I felt like quite a mug for ever believing the Moon Landing shit...
terry wogan
08-03-2007, 10:00 PM
Saw this on YouTube and had to post it here. I don't know how real this is and I don't have anymore info on it other than that it was posted on Rense.com -
Ancient Structure On The Moon Filmed By Armstrong, 1969
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWkGTJEK0Mc&mode=related&search=
Quote "Normally it lasts 14min. What you see is the reason behind all this rush to land on the moon before USSR. It was bombed a few years later by those who decide for us"
This is plain stupid. And those who believe it are also stupid.
thirdwave
08-03-2007, 10:37 PM
This is plain stupid. And those who believe it are also stupid.
lets not antagonize an argument here..... just because you don't agree with what other posters are saying it does not mean they are stupid.... if you have something you would like to educate them with then feel free to tell them, no need to create a row...
midwich cuckoo
09-03-2007, 01:19 AM
This is plain stupid. And those who believe it are also stupid.
Your right, how dare I question anything!.
Sorry for rattling your cage, you can go back to sleep now and I'll continue being stupid quietly in the corner sir. :D
midwich cuckoo
09-03-2007, 01:27 AM
I felt like quite a mug for ever believing the Moon Landing shit...
I'm absolutley positive man has been to the moon (and other planets), but not the way they say it happened and certainly not in that tin foil moon lander.;)
edelweiss pirate
09-03-2007, 12:11 PM
... Well, come on, don't leave me dangling...
Tell me more Midwhich... are we talking astral projection n'ting?
edelweiss pirate
09-03-2007, 02:04 PM
Two words (or is it one word)
Van-Allen belt!
There's no passing that sucka...
midwich cuckoo
09-03-2007, 02:24 PM
... Well, come on, don't leave me dangling...
Tell me more Midwhich... are we talking astral projection n'ting?
Watch this -
Secrets of the 3rd reich
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...ufo+illuminati (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8291386537788537096&q=ufo+illuminati)
Evidence of the use of extra terrestrial technology.
One of the last great mysteries of the 20th century is the occult past of the 3rd reich, and membership of secret societies by some of its leading exponents.
The question as to whether these people were aware of the existence of lost extraterrestrial technologies, once applied by past advanced cultures, is raised by completely new research, supported by historical documents and original film footage of the period.
Were the disk-shaped flying objects (UFOs), driven by anti-gravitation forces, actually constructed?. Test pilots, engineers and investigators explain the Nazi programme for space travel and contact with aliens. Look at the evidence and decide for urself.
edelweiss pirate
09-03-2007, 02:29 PM
Natural belt of concentrated solar radiation surrounding the Earth.
300 miles above the earth. No manned spaceflight has ever gone above beyond this level, apparently manned space missions orbitting the earth have reported seeing white flashes of radiation with their eyes closed.
The Apollo 1 mission has no lead shielding, the only 'protection' from this lethal radiation was a quarter of an inch of aluminium...
At the very least all those who passed this belt would develop cancer at some point, at the very least they would die in a few minutes from total cell break down.
midwich cuckoo
09-03-2007, 03:45 PM
Natural belt of concentrated solar radiation surrounding the Earth.
300 miles above the earth. No manned spaceflight has ever gone above beyond this level, apparently manned space missions orbitting the earth have reported seeing white flashes of radiation with their eyes closed.
The Apollo 1 mission has no lead shielding, the only 'protection' from this lethal radiation was a quarter of an inch of aluminium...
At the very least all those who passed this belt would develop cancer at some point, at the very least they would die in a few minutes from total cell break down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt#Impact_on_space_travel
Proponents of the Moon landing conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia allegations have argued that space travel to the moon is impossible because the Van Allen radiation would kill or incapacitate an astronaut who made the trip. James Van Allen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia himself, now deceased (August 9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, dismissed these ideas. In practice, Apollo program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia astronauts who traveled to the moon spent very little time in the belts and would have received a harmless dose [6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt#_note-4). Nevertheless NASA said that they deliberately timed Apollo launches, and used lunar transfer orbits that only skirted the edge of the belt over the equator to minimize the radiation. Astronauts who visited the moon would probably have a slightly higher risk of Cancer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia during their lifetimes.
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4308/p124a.jpg
edelweiss pirate
09-03-2007, 05:39 PM
The Apollo 1 mission had no radiation shielding. AT ALL!
As they pass through tissue, they can deposit their energy by ionizing water and proteins, causing cellular damage, modifying DNA, RNA, and proteins in ways that can lead to cancers, immune system disorders, and other maladies.
High-Voltage Orbiting Long Tether (HiVOLT):
A System for Remediation of the Van Allen Radiation Belts
Background: The Van Allen Radiation Belts
Figure 2. Trapping of radiation particles by the Earth's magnetic field. (Figure courtesy AFRL)
Radiation Belt Effects on Spacecraft and Personnel:
Energetic particles with energies greater than about 1 MeV pose a severe threat to spacecraft systems in those regions. These energetic particles will steadily degrade electronics, optics, solar panels, and other critical systems by breaking chemical bonds, disrupting crystalline and molecular structures, and by causing localized charge effects. Higher energy particles in solar events and cosmic rays can cause single-event disruptions or damage to electronics. Spacecraft systems operating in Earth orbit must be hardened to withstand this radiation environment, and typically their electronics must be designed with several layers of redundancy, incurring significant expense and additional mass. The radiation particles also pose a significant threat to personnel and other biological systems in Earth orbit. As they pass through tissue, they can deposit their energy by ionizing water and proteins, causing cellular damage, modifying DNA, RNA, and proteins in ways that can lead to cancers, immune system disorders, and other maladies. Protecting personnel in space from energetic particles in the MeV range requires a great deal of extra mass for shielding; a 1996 NRC study concluded that the shielding mass required to protect astronauts during a Mars expedition could add $10B to $30B to the cost of the mission. The presence of the high radiation fluxes in the Van Allen belts limits long-duration manned missions to operation below about 1200 km altitude. Spacecraft passing through the radiation belts will experience rapid degradation of solar panels, electronics, and other systems, and thus transit times through the belts must be minimized; this effect of the radiation belts is one of the primary obstacles preventing Solar-Electric Propulsion based transfer vehicles from being used to provide lower-cost orbit transfer for manned and robotic missions.
midwich cuckoo
09-03-2007, 06:14 PM
Like I said, they didn't go to the moon in these tinfoil ships.
They have much better and faster ways of getting there, and have done since as far back as the 1930's (possibly before), when this photo was taken.
http://secretsoftheholylance.com/book/assets/pictureplace/images/tn_image027.jpg
It's all in the video I posted above.
Here's more info - http://www.stevequayle.com/High.Jump/Vril.and.Andromeda.html
davidbarstis
18-03-2007, 03:13 AM
You are absolutely correct Midwich about the radiation. The named astronauts for moon landings are a lie. They could not have survived the exposure to radiation in space. Any photo showing the moon is going to be fake. The pitch black skies in the background is another indication. The stars would be visible on the Moon's surface. The craft said to be used is a joke. I believe we have been there but not in any craft NASA has shown us and not by any of the supposed astronauts.