Killtown TV Fakery: No planes on 9/11

[edro9494]

at first hearing this theory, i thought this guy was out of his damn mind. however ive watched a few videos Killtown has done on YouTube and I'm not as strongly against what he is claiming as i previously was. In fact, I'm starting to warm up to his stuff.

I see a strong connection between his no plane theory and the infamous POD controversy. Perhaps the plane really was digitally inserted to cover the missile/projectile that struck the building which we refer to as the POD?

Can anybody help guide me to more information?

Please, I know people feel strongly against this theory so please don't post insults or time-wasting attacks. I'm only looking to see if anyone can supply any more supporting evidence to help me understand the theory's strongest evidence/reasoning. Bitching and insults aren't going to dissuade me from being openminded. I remember, quite clearly, when it was En Vogue to think 19 Arab terrorists carried out the attacks!!!!!!!!!!!

These videos stick out the most to me after looking into Killtown's material

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43kEPWe8joo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl_VojGg_Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhhzFwMFHA0

[edro9494]

this video also helps to illustrate the blue-screen technology used in the original broadcasts. if you watch the video take note of how the towers were filmed at the same angle, yet the background with the bridge, etc. keeps moving/rotating.
WHAT IS THE DEAL????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwTNuucgtuo

[edro9494]

heres another thats pretty interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksBhsGal5CI

[phantom]

Hi edro9494

You might enjoy reading through this little debate Killtown had with someone called 911debunker earlier this year.

Did Flight 93 crash in Shanksville, PA?, 911Debunker vs. Killtown (http://z9.invisionfree.com/Sector_G/index.php?showtopic=10)

[lizzy]

this video also helps to illustrate the blue-screen technology used in the original broadcasts. if you watch the video take note of how the towers were filmed at the same angle, yet the background with the bridge, etc. keeps moving/rotating.
WHAT IS THE DEAL????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwTNuucgtuo

hi.
I have heard it 2 ways. 1 that it is Blue beam tech that projects a hologram into the air.....and
2...that the planes were added digitly by computer aboard the helicopter flying close by and relayed to broadcast tv?
But that they did'nt exist at all , whether civil or military is astounding.
I have heard that one day they will use Blue Beam to give the illusion of an alien attack.
lizzy

[crowd control]

My friend has done some mind blowing work in exposing the tv fakery, there's a whole lot more than just no planes going on.

nanoprobe73 on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/user/nanoprobe73

research wescam for the image manipulation and boeing eb4 for starters on alternatives to the prescibed version of events.

[sidlittle]

Can anybody help guide me to more information?


I have already posted this in another thread. Perhaps it merits a thread on its own.

High quality torrent coming in December.

by Genghis6199

911 Taboo Part 1

http://www.livevideo.com/video/genghis6199/1666F9D3661E461EA858D7300117BAEF/911taboo-trial-cut-part-1.aspx

911 Taboo Part 2

http://www.livevideo.com/video/genghis6199/20B1D80FABD140D28DA9B5FFB0A2CB3E/911taboo-trial-cut-part-2.aspx

[edro9494]

So i take it there are quite a few people who are into it, eh?

The whole concept reminds me alot of what David writes about with Project Blue Beam

[mr bridger]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=823734902101057550&hl=en-GB






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f8IiQMjf3U

[sidlittle]

What strange posting habits. I mean , I am hardly a frequent poster on this forum but Mr Bridger joins in April 07 and makes his first two posts in the last 24 hours both promoting the same 'debunking' NPT pieces. :rolleyes:

Sounds like someone has a few back-up accounts...;)

[crowd control]

What strange posting habits. I mean , I am hardly a frequent poster on this forum but Mr Bridger joins in April 07 and makes his first two posts in the last 24 hours both promoting the same 'debunking' NPT pieces. :rolleyes:

Sounds like someone has a few back-up accounts...;)

:D

Yeah, subtle as a sledgehammer.

[edro9494]

perhaps he is associated with a one, dylan avery or jason bermas??

this alex jones and zionist denier group is bad news!!!

[mr bridger]

What strange posting habits. I mean , I am hardly a frequent poster on this forum but Mr Bridger joins in April 07 and makes his first two posts in the last 24 hours both promoting the same 'debunking' NPT pieces. :rolleyes:

Sounds like someone has a few back-up accounts...;)

Sorry to burst your bubble Sid but this is my only account on this forum.

I only posted those clips as its very unfair not address both sides of the NPT / video fakery, which in my own opinion is such aload of gibberish i still cant believe people buy into it.

you will find i use the same username on nineeleven.co.uk on which i do post more.

[masonfree party]

GOOD SITE FOR NEWBIES LIKE MR.BRIDGER

http://WWW.PUMPITOUT.COM

GIVES A BALANCED VIEWPOINT ON THE NO PLANES EVIDENCE AND EXPOSES THE AMATEUR 911 FILMS THAT WERE OBVIOUS FAKES...PROBABLY PAID ZIONIST WHORES LIKE MANY IN THE MEDIA

[masonfree party]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8205707050292695515

911 Octopus...new world order

[masonfree party]

911 octopus

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8205707050292695515http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8205707050292695515

[narcolepticwatchman]

Sorry to burst your bubble Sid but this is my only account on this forum.

I only posted those clips as its very unfair not address both sides of the NPT / video fakery, which in my own opinion is such aload of gibberish i still cant believe people buy into it.

you will find i use the same username on nineeleven.co.uk on which i do post more.

Now, posting under multiple user names would not only be tragic, it would be a sure sign of mental instability.

I got to admit, Looking at some of the new posters on these threads, I did have the feeling that old John boy may have been having a hard time with his self inflicted abstinence from posting on threads with this subject matter. :D:D:D

[john white]

Now, posting under multiple user names would not only be tragic, it would be a sure sign of mental instability.

I got to admit, Looking at some of the new posters on these threads, I did have the feeling that old John boy may have been having a hard time with his self inflicted abstinence from posting on threads with this subject matter. :D:D:D

Not really. I may choose not to debate this subject, and I do prefer for other mods to do the moderating on debates on this subject, but both of those are merely choices, and therefore not hard to live with: or even change my mind about

Mr Bridger is not a multi-id poster: that is a statement of FACT

What you believe, is of course, your responsbility

However, repeated allegations would be unreasonable, and therefore attract a moderation response, so I suggest avoiding them

[mr bridger]

I only came to David`s site to buy a copy of his new book, i had a quick look on this forum while i was here and noticed this dribble about video fakery / NPT etc being posted and thought i would try to balance the issue.

[crowd control]

I only came to David`s site to buy a copy of his new book, i had a quick look on this forum while i was here and noticed this dribble about video fakery / NPT etc being posted and thought i would try to balance the issue.


Any specific points about the videos you find objectionable, or is it just vague ridicule ?

[killtown]

at first hearing this theory, i thought this guy was out of his damn mind. however ive watched a few videos Killtown has done on YouTube and I'm not as strongly against what he is claiming as i previously was. In fact, I'm starting to warm up to his stuff.

I see a strong connection between his no plane theory and the infamous POD controversy. Perhaps the plane really was digitally inserted to cover the missile/projectile that struck the building which we refer to as the POD?

Can anybody help guide me to more information?
Well glad to hear you don't think I'm out of my damn mind as much anymore. ;)

I'd be happy to try to guide you to more info about NPT.

I'm not sure what you've seen of my stuff about NPT, but here's what I'd recommend to start with:

- All the known WTC crash videos and short explanations of all the anomalies with each of them:

http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html

- Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-they-didnt-use-planes-to-hit-wtc.html



Here are my various blogposts about NPT/TV fakery:

http://killtown.blogspot.com/search/label/TV-Fakery
http://killtown.blogspot.com/search/label/No-Planes


Lemme know if you have specific questions about NPT/TV fakery and I'll try to help you out with them.

As always, look everything over with an open-mind and decide for yourself whether you think some is valid or not.

Cheers.

[howie]

These pictures are from ITV4s Worlds Greatest Hoaxes shown last week.
A local dutch TV station created the video of a UFO & the public believed it was real.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9519/003833bj2.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2125/003832wf7.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6321/003831pc4.jpg

[edro9494]

Killtown-? I'll be damned, I'm talking to the man himself. Excellent!

I have the mp3 of you and Stilldiggin on From The Bunker with Dire Wolf. I'm a big fan of Dire Wolf's Skypecasts. I tried sending a buddy request to you and Stilldiggin on Skype, my name on there is Eddiemoney2.

I'd like to talk to you about Dylan Avery and Alex Jones. I'm glad you have realized they are liars and attention-redirectors. Are you aware of the Israeli connection to 9/11? If not, search "Dancing Israelis 9/11" on a search engine. Most of the big 9/11 videos ignore the Israeli involvement in 9/11, so please don't let yourself be fooled by Zionist crowd(Avery, Jones, Ruppert, et al) who lie to everyone and coverup the Israeli connection.

Christopher Bollyn, Daryl Bradford Smith, and Eric Hufschmid have established that the Loose Changes boys were financed by the Zionist Simon family who own the Simon Malls chain across the midwest.

Check out these sites to learn how 9/11 was not an inside job, but a Zionist job:
www.Bollyn.com
www.iamthewitness.com
http://erichufschmid.net/

All three of these guys were partners awhile ago but have since broken apart after a big fallout.

Get back to me Killtown, I think you have some very important research, and thanks for speaking up amidst the ridicule!

[killtown]

Thanks for your kind words.

I'm very suspicious about AJones & Avery. They seem to gloss over the abundant evidence that factions from Israel were in on 9/11. I wouldn't doubt they are, at the least, being controlled.

[killtown]

These pictures are from ITV4s Worlds Greatest Hoaxes shown last week.
A local dutch TV station created the video of a UFO & the public believed it was real.
Wow, that's interesting. Do you have a link to this story? That's definitely shows how easy it is to fool the masses.

[narcolepticwatchman]

Hi there KT nice to 'meet' you and good to see you show up here.....your ears must have been burning over the past few months as your work has been the topic of more than a few posts.

I noticed you had a video of the 'birds' on your site the other week. Have you seen any of the videos by nanoprobe on youtube? He has a pile of vids which show a similar phenomenon.

There is also some stuff about the woolworth building and an apprent missile launch from its roof. i'm not sure how verifiable the article is, however the interesting thing I noticed in the same article shows what appears to be an orb flying around the roof of the same building which seems to make it catch fire at one point. i think this could possibly be related to the 'birds'. Check it out if you haven't seen it already.

http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/

[killtown]

Hi narco. I have the KTLA5/PAX TV video that show birds going 100mph:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8105/fastbirdsyd3.gif
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/04/damn-dem-birds-is-fast.html


This video is one of the many "unknown amateurs" that was supposedly shot while driving on a freeway and shows a vanishing wing:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9231/paxtvva1.gif
"V9 (WTC 2) - Footage taken from a moving vehicle on FDR drive, heading west just before the Brooklyn Bridge. Footage taken north and east of the towers." - NIST

http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html#PAX_TV


I know nanoprobe, but can't recall which videos are from him. So many new no-planers are posting great stuff that it's hard to remember who's who.

The missile/Woolworth reports are very interesting. I'm not sure what to make of it. I don't know what to think about the "orbs" in the air. I think photos can show weird images/dots in it that can be misconstrued a lot of ways. I tend to be very cautious of stuff like that.

[narcolepticwatchman]

100mph? Must be racing pigeons :D:D:D

Link to nanoporbes stuff is below. Quite a few examples of the 'birds' as well as fake witnesses. He also has a vid of the 'birds' at the recent bridge collapse.

http://www.youtube.com/user/nanoprobe73

He has taken all of his footage from the archives. As previously mentioned by my friend crowd control, when you see this stuff in higher resolution it is really scary how they got away with it :D

[killtown]

I think the perps put birds and helicopters in a lot of the fake videos to give it "life".

[howie]

The Worlds Greatest Hoaxes can be downloaded here:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1016153

The fake UFO footage is near the end of the programme.

I found an old Daily Mail newspaper from 13 September 2001, it says
Mohammad Atta was on Flight 175 (http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8489/atta13sept2001yb4.jpg):eek:

& another page showing stills from the amateur videos

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/9538/dailymail13sept2001hy7.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4703/dailymail13sept2001amq0.jpg

[thorleyart]

I have already posted this in another thread. Perhaps it merits a thread on its own.

High quality torrent coming in December.

by Genghis6199

911 Taboo Part 1

http://www.livevideo.com/video/genghis6199/1666F9D3661E461EA858D7300117BAEF/911taboo-trial-cut-part-1.aspx

911 Taboo Part 2

http://www.livevideo.com/video/genghis6199/20B1D80FABD140D28DA9B5FFB0A2CB3E/911taboo-trial-cut-part-2.aspx

I've watched september clues, kiltown and the above videos, i'm coming closer to thinking the trade centers were hit by missiles.

only five major news stations covered the event, all local stations were shut down, in reality these five news stations are one, controlled from one control room, then the same footage from this very limited source is spread across the world, the whole thing was stage managed, with the news corporations working to a script, they mentioned Bin Laden within a very short space of time of the missile hitting, fake from start to finninsh!