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seamus
04-03-2007, 07:09 AM
Alright folks...

I have put it off long enough. I am about to describe to you an experience I had, which various phrases have put me in mind of lately on this forum.

Specifically I refer to something Tru3 wrote, about the "Luciferian experiment". Also referring to pre-big-bang history in the "how old is the matrix" thread. I either possess of my own or have had implanted a memory of that time that I would like to share. I will later post a graphic to go with it.

Imagine if you will, white light permeating all.

Now imagine a soccer ball. But it's not really a soccer ball, as the lines and nodes of stitching are made of light, and through the open panes you can see the outside darkness. Yes, you're on the inside. In fact you are one of the nodes. the lines are you reaching out and holding onto your friends.

In the middle of all this is a giant ball of love. That's all it is. Love. And the blessed existence that is yours, is gazing with eternal awe and worship toward this ball of love.

Now, for some reason or other, you are disturbed. You find your attention directed outside of the ball, and you notice darkness as something infinite and palpable.

You think, in a non-verbal way, "Oh we've got to make that out there like this in here, that would be nice." and you look back in to the middle, noticing that your view of the ball of love has changed. You can't look directly at it anymore, (you have started to "possess" the ball, and that just. doesn't. work.) and you start pulling and pushing, in and out, over and over, until...

BOOOM

Everything goes everywhere. Oops.

That's the memory I live with. Almost every day it comes to me. I have been obsessed with it for almost 18 years. I received this "memory" or maybe it was even an invented fiction, while being instructed that I was a selfish being, needing to learn how to love, on my way to the 1989 US Rainbow Gathering in Robinson's Hole Nevada. (Was anyone here at that one?)

I would like now to solicit opinions and ideas about what is the nature of this vision.

Thanks,

s

tru3
04-03-2007, 04:12 PM
Alright folks...



Now imagine a soccer ball. But it's not really a soccer ball, as the lines and nodes of stitching are made of light, and through the open panes you can see the outside darkness. Yes, you're on the inside. In fact you are one of the nodes. the lines are you reaching out and holding onto your friends.

In the middle of all this is a giant ball of love. That's all it is. Love. And the blessed existence that is yours, is gazing with eternal awe and worship toward this ball of love.

You think, in a non-verbal way, "Oh we've got to make that out there like this in here, that would be nice." and you look back in to the middle, noticing that your view of the ball of love has changed. You can't look directly at it anymore, (you have started to "possess" the ball, and that just. doesn't. work.) and you start pulling and pushing, in and out, over and over, until...

BOOOM

s

i'm not laughing.

did the soccer ball look something like this?

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7478/oldgrid1pa9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i've had something very similar, seamus. the missing step was that someone came up and said, "c'mon, let's do it!" . and i agreed.

anyone ever see the movie "private benjamin", where goldie hawn enlists in the army because a recruiter told her it was like club med, and she didn't have a clue what she was getting herself into. that was me. lol

so i called it the experiment rather than the rebellion because it felt like the first thought of separation was the question, "what if?" everything that has played out since has been the answer to that first question.

i would recommend the book "dear god, what is happening to us?!" by lynne grabhorn. it's the best description of Reality "pre-big bang" i've read.

another one is "disappearance of the universe", by gary renard. this is the best book 'ive ever read with commentary on the course in miracles, much better than marianne williamson's book.

thanks for sharing this, seamus. it's such a relief sometimes to know someone share's these experiences, isn't it?

seamus
04-03-2007, 05:06 PM
i'm not laughing.

did the soccer ball look something like this?

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OMG yes that was what it looked like, minus the maps of course.

i've had something very similar, seamus. the missing step was that someone came up and said, "c'mon, let's do it!" . and i agreed.

anyone ever see the movie "private benjamin", where goldie hawn enlists in the army because a recruiter told her it was like club med, and she didn't have a clue what she was getting herself into. that was me. lol

I just remember being swept up into it. This is what made me so mentally unstable in the days after the experience: I felt like I couldn't look at that "ball of love" anymore. Like, by thinking of myself as separate, I had said "mine". Like the old neil young song,

Love is a rose but you better not pick it,
It only grows when it's on the vine.
A handful of thorns and you'll know you've missed it,
You lose your love when you say the word "mine".

I have ever since been like the crack fiend looking back to that first high (actually i have never taken any white powder besides ecstasy).

Except there is no drug that could get anyone that high.

I sure hope it was an implanted memory rather than my own. The implications are dire if it is my own.

so i called it the experiment rather than the rebellion because it felt like the first thought of separation was the question, "what if?" everything that has played out since has been the answer to that first question.


I am really glad that I am not the only one who has experienced this. It validates the experience. I'm not just a nutter!


i would recommend the book "dear god, what is happening to us?!" by lynne grabhorn. it's the best description of Reality "pre-big bang" i've read.

another one is "disappearance of the universe", by gary renard. this is the best book 'ive ever read with commentary on the course in miracles, much better than marianne williamson's book.

thanks for sharing this, seamus. it's such a relief sometimes to know someone share's these experiences, isn't it?

Amen brotha'.

Did you say you are in kentucky?

s

tru3
04-03-2007, 07:14 PM
Love is a rose but you better not pick it,
It only grows when it's on the vine.
A handful of thorns and you'll know you've missed it,
You lose your love when you say the word "mine".

I have ever since been like the crack fiend looking back to that first high (actually i have never taken any white powder besides ecstasy).

Except there is no drug that could get anyone that high.

I sure hope it was an implanted memory rather than my own. The implications are dire if it is my own.

wow. that's the best description of non-attachement i have ever heard in the pop genre. lol

as a recovering alcoholic who has been sober, through Grace, for nine years, i have come to believe the addictive impulse is the aching desire to return Home, but, like a rose bush in perpetual shade, has not received the light and water it needs to bloom.

the rose has been a symbol of the Heart for thousands of years.

i feel like it's a collective memory, seamus. it's "our" memory. i love you, bro! :)

misscpb
05-03-2007, 12:51 AM
Wow, great post from you both.

2013
05-03-2007, 01:47 AM
looks very much like the flower of life pattern google it you will see , its a mathmatical geometrical musical universe . All is one UNI - VERSE , all in harmony . I have always thought that we are all thoughts in the mind of god/love uni/multi verse and the WHAT IF was the original thought .Every thought impulse we have travels at the speed of thought into infinite possabilities and variations that account for every dimension and world imaginable and then some .The original eight cells in our bodies always remain the rest die and renew themselves in a seven year cycle apart from those in the solar plexus area .One became two then four then eight .The number of infinity looping back on its self the time loop .The eight fold path of buddah , who contemplated his navel , the home of the eight original cells .Are they called cells because we become imprisoned in them i wonder .For the times they are a changing ,and godspeed to you all .excellent work keep on keeping on :D

tinmenace
05-03-2007, 01:59 AM
Totally cool!

neondestiny
05-03-2007, 02:19 AM
Wow! I am godsmacked ;)
Great post

seamus
05-03-2007, 05:14 AM
Looking back at that diagram, is that a "planetary grid" where the nodes are stargates? If so, I want to know where that one in the west USA is...

Are all of them stargates? Are stargates only found on these nodes?

Does anyone have a clue? Inquiring minds want to know!

s

tinmenace
05-03-2007, 05:37 AM
I don't know anything about it, but I feel compelled to remind you to remember that none of this is actually real, and that if we focus too much on the physical realm we drift farther away from the spiritual oneness that is the real truth.

When we are really in tune, we won't need physical stargates.

;)

tru3
05-03-2007, 08:58 AM
I don't know anything about it, but I feel compelled to remind you to remember that none of this is actually real, and that if we focus too much on the physical realm we drift farther away from the spiritual oneness that is the real truth.

When we are really in tune, we won't need physical stargates.

;)


excellent point. i'm with you. for me, all this stuff is a continuing contemplation on the nature of Consciousness, embodied in matter. ime, Reality is pure subjective, pristine, ordinary Awareness which we have access to right now. we already are that. all form arises from the field of the Self, only to subside and dissolve back into it. as far as i'm concerned at this point in my life, i simply choose to play in the sandbox! :)

the soccer ball seamus saw is repeated in the magnetic grid of the earth. it's in our dna, it's in the budding plant. it's the flower of life, the original 8 cells of our conception. it's every-frikkin where! once we know this, then it becomes a game, an absurd joke. attachment and fear go out the window. holy shit! none of this is real. there is only one form, because there is only the Self, the higher self, the small still voice, buddhamind, the holy spirit, shining clearly at all times, with form being reflected in Its light. the "god program" lies within us, collectively. we, being the stuff from which the code arose, have the means to break it. and only we, living as the Consciousness we already are in this moment free of the fear of the unreal, have the means to break it. it's the same form; as above, so below, as within, so without. all form is related simply because it is not real. it had to arise from oneness. it must return to Source.

crazy isn't it? insanely hilarious? well, the surest way to beat the devil... is to laugh at him!

all that is left is to ask the question, "who sees the form?" over, and over, and over. it is the only question fear retreats from. it is the only question that matters. so it appears to me.

seamus
05-03-2007, 02:28 PM
This is really amazing. I have always noticed at my times of greatest distress, when going through the illumination-trip (mind you I was not illuminated by the masons, but by circumstances that were preordained), there was always a small part of me inside that was quiet, peaceful and still, even though emotionally I was a train wreck. That something deep inside me knew that I was choosing to go through what I went through. As the song say,

"You can check out any time you like,
but you can never leave."

As if you could leave all that is. As if that could possibly be a desirable goal? All I know right now is that I am in upheaval in my life, thanks to the fine people on this board. Thanks, peeps! Times have never been more exciting.

s

seamus
05-03-2007, 04:04 PM
wow. that's the best description of non-attachement i have ever heard in the pop genre. lol

Hey wait a minute. He was folk, not pop!

:P

s

h1s_l0rdsh1p
05-03-2007, 04:49 PM
Well...
That just makes me question then..

Which team does God support?

tonto o_reilly
05-03-2007, 09:26 PM
This is a really interesting thread guys!

very thought provoking :)

TO

tru3
05-03-2007, 09:37 PM
Well...
That just makes me question then..

Which team does God support?

this is how i see it:

god supports "Truth". Reality. if he acknowledged this illusion we are embedded in, he would give it full Reality. better it is viewed as what it is; a bad dream.

it's up to us, through Grace, to pierce the illusion. the illusion is that there is more than one team. again, imv.

we are powerful beyond measure. we've just forgotten that fact. harmlessness and forgiveness are the only sane response to insanity.

tru3
05-03-2007, 09:39 PM
Hey wait a minute. He was folk, not pop!

:P

s

lol. thanks for putting me back on the straight and narrow, seamus! :)

dude111
19-03-2011, 06:01 AM
I don't know anything about it, but I feel compelled to remind you to remember that none of this is actually real.....Quite true!!!

Our mind MAKES IT "REAL" .. who knows if anything is really as we think it is!

A very thought provoking thread for sure......

ianw
19-03-2011, 07:30 AM
Alright folks...
I have put it off long enough. I am about to describe to you an experience I had, which various phrases have put me in mind of lately on this forum.
Imagine if you will, white light permeating all.
Now imagine a soccer ball. But it's not really a soccer ball, as the lines and nodes of stitching are made of light, and through the open panes you can see the outside darkness. Yes, you're on the inside. In fact you are one of the nodes.

Could all these nodes could be described as a point in time

In the middle of all this is a giant ball of love. That's all it is. Love. And the blessed existence that is yours, is gazing with eternal awe and worship toward this ball of love.

The ball would be in the middle. A central point in time ?

Now, for some reason or other, you are disturbed. You find your attention directed outside of the ball, and you notice darkness as something infinite and palpable.
You think, in a non-verbal way, "Oh we've got to make that out there like this in here, that would be nice." and you look back in to the middle, noticing that your view of the ball of love has changed. You can't look directly at it any more,

Only your focus of attention is directed outside the ball, your really still in it.
Forgetting who you/we are.

i simply choose to play in the sandbox! :)
crazy isn't it? insanely hilarious? well, the surest way to beat the devil... is to laugh at him!

Expert, texpert choking smokers
Don't you think the joker laughs at you?

As the song say,
"You can check out any time you like,
but you can never leave."
Hey wait a minute. He was folk, not pop!
POP music can be quite magickal no mater what the gender.

We all use a different perspective of the same blueprint to wake up in time to go to the Ball.
I have another one of Gods balls,a golf ball, Gods got Balls :D

Ari Koivunen - Perfect Strangers - YouTube
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae14/ianw_2010/golf1.jpg

seamus
19-03-2011, 06:42 PM
How fun! I forgot this thread existed (again).

Could all these nodes could be described as a point in time
No... They are perception fields. Individual created observers. Reflections of the One Infinite Creator, if you will. I've come into a bit more understanding about the whole thing lately... last month I watched Nassim Haramein's "Beyond the Event Horizon", and a lot of things became clearer.
The ball would be in the middle. A central point in time ?
My opinion on the possibilities... It may be an accumulated Love field that has its own consciousness. It may be nothing less than the planetary Logos (to use Law of One terminology), or, the God of this planet. Or it might be an accumulation of energy that simply reflects whatever is paying attention to it, like a mirror.
Only your focus of attention is directed outside the ball, your really still in it.
Forgetting who you/we are.Yes. That was intentional and necessary to experience "Life" on this planet. I would only differ in that I think I'm rather in a tunnel that leaves the surface of the 'ball' at my "birth" and re-enters the surface of the 'ball' at my "death".
Expert, texpert choking smokers
Don't you think the joker laughs at you?laughs at everyone and everything.
POP music can be quite magickal no mater what the gender.I didn't know pop music had a gender?
We all use a different perspective of the same blueprint to wake up in time to go to the Ball.
sounds like the conclusion I've come to. cheers :)

seamus
19-03-2011, 06:53 PM
looks very much like the flower of life pattern google it you will see , its a mathmatical geometrical musical universe . All is one UNI - VERSE , all in harmony .[...]

Yes. That's what Nassim Haramein's presentation showed me, the geometric relationship of space to itself provides the framework for energy/matter, and probably the spin as well.

seamus
12-01-2012, 01:25 AM
Well, I wasn't expecting to hear any more about this phenomenon, but Clif High (of halfpasthuman.com) explained in a recent interview the very scenario I described in the first post of this thread. If any of you have had a similar vision, (of the universe beginning with the collapse/explosion of a geodesic-type energy structure) or even if you're just intrigued, take a listen to this: Clif High ~ Full Length Interview From 12-09-2011 - YouTube from 1:07:30 to about 1:09:30. I am fairly sure he has seen the same thing I did. Otherwise the description could not be so eerily accurate.

After that part, he gets a question about determinism and multiverse theory and in his answer he describes his process of letting the game run itself (by choosing to 'watch and wait'), and watching with surprise how the universe adds value to his experience. This is in accord with the process I have worked out for myself, which I often refer to as "living according to the law". You will see a lot of discussion about that if you follow the roage.free-forum.net link in my sig.

lizzyking
12-01-2012, 03:49 AM
Analysis published in Nature implies the topology of the Universe maybe similar to a dodecahedron.

The Universe could be shaped like a soccer ball, say mathematicians.
The idea is prompted by data from NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) satellite. This sees back to when the Universe was about 380,000 years old, and reveals the all-pervading radiation left over from the Big Bang - the cosmic microwave background.



http://www.nature.com/news/1998/031006/full/news031006-8.html
In Salvador Dalí's painting The Sacrament of the Last Supper (1955), the room is a hollow dodecahedron.

http://apokalypso.com/Fig3.jpg

lizzyking
12-01-2012, 03:56 AM
"...On Earth, as it is in the Heavens"?

“It turns out that buckyballs are much more common and abundant in the universe than initially thought,” said astronomer Letizia Stanghellini of the National Optical Astronomy Observatory in Tucson, Ariz. “Spitzer had recently found them in one specific location, but now we see them in other environments. This has implications for the chemistry of life. It’s possible that buckyballs from outer space provided seeds for life on Earth.”

http://www.universetoday.com/76732/buckyballs-could-be-plentiful-in-the-universe/

seamus
12-01-2012, 06:47 AM
Thanks for the input, lizzyking. I dig that Dali painting. He was definitely a visionary. I heard about that dodecahedron universe info a couple of years back and of course went right back to this in my thoughts.

I have come to a point where I think that this whole reality is truly just a dream of the Infinite Creator. No need for fear or worry... except that which is necessary to remind us that there is no need for it.

Also, cheers for the buckyball info... cool stuff!

BTW, Clif High called David Icke the modern-day Gandhi (strictly with respect to the concept of a human being doing exactly as the universe wants him/her to do)

soppi
12-01-2012, 08:43 AM
God's soccer ball.. sounds like this:http://www.thenanoage.com/buckminsterfullerene.htm

soppi
12-01-2012, 09:14 AM
its also one of the archimedian solids in sacred geometry

heartbeatsalute
26-02-2012, 04:44 AM
http://apokalypso.com/Fig3.jpg

Salvador Dali was not much of a mystic ,but he was a great painter ,he also illustrated a Tarot ,although he said he didn't understand much off it ,but all his paintings are fantastic. Sorry to get off topic. Just couldn't help it.

heartbeatsalute
11-03-2012, 12:06 AM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rmo/lowres/rmon831l.jpg



:D