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siliconpsychosis
03-03-2007, 05:29 PM
Whenever the media rams down my throat how wonderful a particular actor or actress is, I usually find myself disliking that person from that point onwards. So when I kept reading and seeing images of Helen Mirren and the the expectation that she would win on Oscar for the Queen, I couldnt help but cringe.

In one magazine they showed a picture of a tatoo on her left hand, and I realised that it was the freemasons symbol. So Helen Mirren is a freemason I thought. This might explain how she got the part of playing the Queen.

Since films have the power to define history, I presume the objective is that the film 'The Queen' wins an Oscar, so more people then watch it and believe the portayel of events surrounding Diannas death. So when 'the jury' starts looking at the Dianne case pretty soon, I guess people are more likely to think that the Queen and co did not kill Dianna. After all they watched the film and the film never mentioned a conspiracy.

One final point since the lizards are big on the symbolism, then I expect they would have loved Helen Mirrens Oscar winning speech, when she saluted the Lizard Queen by raising the oscar in her freemasonically tattooed left hand. Something turned green before my very eyes. But it wasnt Helen Mirren. It was me turning green with disgust.

misscpb
03-03-2007, 09:34 PM
Hi There

Oh I will have to look out for the tatoo etc, I didn't see it on the television.
Thanks for the post.

roxanna
03-03-2007, 10:29 PM
Anyone find a photo of it? Looked cant seem to locate one. Thanks, Cheers

midwich cuckoo
03-03-2007, 10:34 PM
http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/images/tattoo/helenmirrentattoo1.jpg
Taken from here - http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-mirren.htm

tru3
03-03-2007, 10:41 PM
http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/images/tattoo/helenmirrentattoo1.jpg
Taken from here - http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-mirren.htm

no wonder she impersonated e2 so well; the queen mum was probably manning the controls! :D

didn't you just love the made tony blair out to be this lovable, bumbling rube? i was chuckling all through the movie.

roxanna
03-03-2007, 10:56 PM
Hey thank you both. Really cool of you to post. Jesus look at that damn! One of them for sure. Ill have to see the movie if only to laugh my ass off. Cheers

misscpb
04-03-2007, 09:44 AM
http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/images/tattoo/helenmirrentattoo1.jpg
Taken from here - http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-mirren.htm

Oh My Word, you just do not seem to know in this world who is who at times. Thank you very much for the picture.

It does seem very strange how a woman who presents herself as very much somewhat of a lady has that strange mark/tatoo on her hand.

Does anyone know what the tatoo means?

Thanks

mahabaratara
04-03-2007, 11:07 AM
http://www.cremationofcare.com/images/symbols/freemasonry/t_square.jpg

It looks like Freemasonic Symbolism to me...

ho1ogram
04-03-2007, 11:46 AM
Very, very interesting. I am intrigued. Thanks for the info.

ps - tru3 & misspcb. I think we all saw the tatoo the first time it was posted.

*edit* - okay, it may not be masonic. If you stand it on it's end (rotate it 90 degrees) it is a rune symbol called - Ing; the Danes. According to the Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects by Barbara Walker. Interestingly, in Understanding Runes by Michael Howard, it isn't listed.

pollock
04-03-2007, 01:22 PM
I always thought she was creepy!

i_am
04-03-2007, 01:34 PM
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*edit* - okay, it may not be masonic. If you stand it on it's end (rotate it 90 degrees) it is a rune symbol called - Ing; the Danes. According to the Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects by Barbara Walker. Interestingly, in Understanding Runes by Michael Howard, it isn't listed.


It is too:p

http://www.earth-dancing.com/ing.htm

KEY WORDS: fertility, family ties, news beginning

This Rune represents successful conclusion of an experience and the the new beginning. The new beginning is a feeling of harmony in oneself and the world around. This Rune predicts family harmony, possible marriage, a birth of a child, healing in health, and improvement of home.

When this Rune is drawn, be assured you can achieve completion and then start a new beginning! This can be a joyous realization of a new path, a new life.

Can also mean news of a stranger or family member not heard from in a long time. This rune was often found on houses and barns for protection and fertility of home, animals, fields and other buildings.

Also Listed here

http://wodening.ealdriht.org/runes/third.html

friendsinthesky
04-03-2007, 01:47 PM
^ Then maybe the silly woman should have posed with her other NON tattoed hand, or at least turned it sideways..:confused:

*edit*..and then again, with what the tattoo NOW represents (fertility, family ties, news beginning) and then playing the queen, wouldn't that go against the 'laws of nature'.

siliconpsychosis
04-03-2007, 03:43 PM
According to a magazine I read last week (Heat I think), Helen Mirren claims that she has little recollection of having the tattoo done since she was drunk at the time.
This explanation in itself I find pretty suspicious.
A definite lizard in my opinion.

paolo
05-03-2007, 12:46 AM
As above, so below
yoni/lingam
a universal tatoo for our time
They love to display these symbols
It's no surprise that this lizard replicator should do so

lumukanda
05-03-2007, 07:53 AM
it's far too big a coincedence for this well known actress, portraying, amongst other things, the queen of england, to be having that tattoo on her left hand. as maha points out, it is freemasonic, pretty ugly tattoo though, reminds me of old sailors or prison tattoos.

masonic3
05-03-2007, 08:48 PM
Whenever the media rams down my throat how wonderful a particular actor or actress is, I usually find myself disliking that person from that point onwards. So when I kept reading and seeing images of Helen Mirren and the the expectation that she would win on Oscar for the Queen, I couldnt help but cringe.

In one magazine they showed a picture of a tatoo on her left hand, and I realised that it was the freemasons symbol. So Helen Mirren is a freemason I thought. This might explain how she got the part of playing the Queen.

Since films have the power to define history, I presume the objective is that the film 'The Queen' wins an Oscar, so more people then watch it and believe the portayel of events surrounding Diannas death. So when 'the jury' starts looking at the Dianne case pretty soon, I guess people are more likely to think that the Queen and co did not kill Dianna. After all they watched the film and the film never mentioned a conspiracy.

One final point since the lizards are big on the symbolism, then I expect they would have loved Helen Mirrens Oscar winning speech, when she saluted the Lizard Queen by raising the oscar in her freemasonically tattooed left hand. Something turned green before my very eyes. But it wasnt Helen Mirren. It was me turning green with disgust.

Oh my God!! Women are not aloud in the masons(for ever, not a chance), if she is a "Freemsaon" she must be a part of the "Rainbow Order" which is freemasonry for women.
The order is a joke....... Not under the UGLE.
I know a couple and its rubbish.

What sort os symbol is it? Is it masonic? Or something silly??

thirdwave
05-03-2007, 10:52 PM
I think you would be most shocked at how many are Freemasons... mostly the reason they are were they are....


its easy to hide them selfs.... they calculate what people want to see in someone to win over their trust and support.... then it can be very un believable that these people can be liers of part of any evil group....

look at terry wogan.... such a lovely warm man that can relate to so many people and so down to earth.... or is that all calculated? all you have to do is know how to act and be a good lier.... very very simple... gary glitter got away with it for years!!, would be interesting to see if he was involved in anything...

masonic3
06-03-2007, 04:24 PM
I think you would be most shocked at how many are Freemasons... mostly the reason they are were they are....


its easy to hide them selfs.... they calculate what people want to see in someone to win over their trust and support.... then it can be very un believable that these people can be liers of part of any evil group....

look at terry wogan.... such a lovely warm man that can relate to so many people and so down to earth.... or is that all calculated? all you have to do is know how to act and be a good lier.... very very simple... gary glitter got away with it for years!!, would be interesting to see if he was involved in anything...


What about Cliff Richards?:)

mara of the acoma
06-03-2007, 04:42 PM
According to a magazine I read last week (Heat I think), Helen Mirren claims that she has little recollection of having the tattoo done since she was drunk at the time.
This explanation in itself I find pretty suspicious.
A definite lizard in my opinion.

Sweet Jesus. :o

You find it suspicious that someone has a tattoo whilst drunk and has little recollection of it?
And this leads you to... the conclusion that she is a lizard!?!

I say again... Sweet Jesus.

*skips off merrily on her way, feeling extremely glad that she's not in siliconpsychosis's reality*

limelady
06-03-2007, 04:57 PM
Oh my God!! Women are not aloud in the masons(for ever, not a chance), if she is a "Freemsaon" she must be a part of the "Rainbow Order" which is freemasonry for women.
The order is a joke....... Not under the UGLE.
I know a couple and its rubbish.

What sort os symbol is it? Is it masonic? Or something silly??


Order of the Eastern Star

The Order of the Eastern Star is the largest fraternal organization in the world that both men and women can join. It was established in 1850 by Robert Morris, a lawyer and educator from Boston, Massachusetts who had been an official with the Freemasons. It is based on teachings from the Bible, but is open to people of all monotheistic faiths. It has approximately 10,000 chapters in twenty countries and approximately one million members under its General Grand Chapter. Members of the Order are aged 18 and older; men must be Master Masons and women must have specific relationships with Masons. Originally, a woman would have to be the daughter, widow, wife, sister, or mother of a master Mason, but the Order now allows other relatives as well as allowing Rainbow Girls to become members when they come of age.

Order of the Eastern Star - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

synergy777
06-03-2007, 05:31 PM
apparently her real name is not helen mirren, thats her stage name. i think she is from russian/ukranian descent.

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/

the windsor signal, the queeen, harry hewitt windsor, camilla in hospital/womb removed and the diana inquest/trial.

synergy777
06-03-2007, 05:32 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000545/bio

Biography for
Helen Mirren
advertisement Birth name
Illiana Lydia Vasilievna Mironova


Nickname
Popper


Height
5' 4" (1.63 m)


Spouse
Taylor Hackford (31 December 1997 - present)


Trivia
Her grandfather Piotr Vasilievich Mironoff was a Tsarist (White Russian) aristocrat who was in London negotiating an arms deal for the World War I when the 1917 Russian Revolution stranded him there. His wife and son (Helen's father) joined him in London.

Has lived with director Taylor Hackford in Los Angeles since 1986.

Used to work in Southend on Sea; Essex; UK at an amusement park "The Kursaal" as a "blagger" to attract customers on to rides.

Made a DBE (Dame of the British Empire) in the Queen's Birthday Honours, June 2003.

John Boorman said he cast her opposite Nicol Williamson in Excalibur (1981), against both of their protests, because he felt their dislike of each other made them perfect as rivals Morgana and Merlin.

Measurements: 36C-25-36 (starlet days), 38C-26-37 (on "Prime Suspect"-1996), (Source: Celebrity Sleuth magazine)

She allegedly refused the C.B.E. (Commander of order of the British Empire) in 1996.

Nominated for Best Actress, Laurence Olivier Theatre Award for her performance of "Orpheus Descending" at the Donmar Warehouse. [2001]

Nominated for Best Actress, Laurence Olivier Theatre Award for her performance in "Mourning Becomes Electra" at the Royal National Theatre: Lyttelton Stage. [2004]

Became an Associate Member of RADA.

Nominated for Best Actress, Tony Award for "Dance of Death" by August Strindberg. [2002]

Despite her Russian birth name and ancestry, she is not fluent in Russian.

Her great-great-great-great-grandfather was field-marshal Kamensky, one of the Russian heroes of the Napoleonic wars.

She is the only actress to play both Queen Elizabeth I (in Elizabeth I (2005) (TV)) and Queen Elizabeth II (The Queen (2006)).

At the premiere of The Queen (2006) at the Venice Film Festival, her performance received a 5 minute standing ovation.

Member of the jury at the Venice Film Festival in 2004.

Played a Queen a total of six times: The Queen (2006), Elizabeth I (2005) (TV), The Prince of Egypt (1998), The Snow Queen (1995), The Madness of King George (1994), and Caligola (1979).

Became the third person, after Sigourney Weaver and Joan Plowright, to win two Golden Globes for acting in the same year. The characters she played were both Queens of England, Elizabeth I and Elizabeth II.

Helen Mirren dedicated her BAFTA win for The Queen (2006) (for Best Actress in a Leading Role) to Ian Richardson for playing a huge part in her success story. She said (in her acceptance speech) that Richardson was very supportive towards her when she started out acting, and without him she may not have been so successful. She dedicated this award two days after Richardson died. [2007]

Nominated for Best Actress, Tony Award for "A Month in the Country" by Ivan Turgenev. [1995]

She and her husband Taylor Hackford are both Oscar-winners.

Is fluent in French.



Personal quotes
The actress describes herself as "being famous for being cool about not being gorgeous."

"The trick in life is learning how to deal with it."

[About the Academy Awards] "It's the creme-de-la-creme of bulls**t."

"Actors are rogues and vagabonds. Or they ought to be. I can't stand it when they behave like solicitors from Penge." "I'm a would-be rebel. The good girl who'd like to be a bad one."

"All you have to do is to look like crap on film and everyone thinks you're a brilliant actress. Actually, all you've done is look like crap."

"Flesh sells. People don't want to see pictures of churches. They want to see naked bodies"

On becoming Dame Helen Mirren in 2003, "In England, it's a big deal. I do feel it's a great honor. But I had to think about it quite seriously for a couple of weeks. It does sort of squash you into the establishment thing. In the end, my baser feelings got the better of me. I succumbed to pride."

"Being me right now is sort of amazing." - 2006.



Where are they now
(September 2006) Winner of the Volpi Cup as Best Actress for her role in the forthcoming "The Queen" (2006) at the 63rd Venice Film Festival.

masonic3
06-03-2007, 06:07 PM
Order of the Eastern Star

The Order of the Eastern Star is the largest fraternal organization in the world that both men and women can join. It was established in 1850 by Robert Morris, a lawyer and educator from Boston, Massachusetts who had been an official with the Freemasons. It is based on teachings from the Bible, but is open to people of all monotheistic faiths. It has approximately 10,000 chapters in twenty countries and approximately one million members under its General Grand Chapter. Members of the Order are aged 18 and older; men must be Master Masons and women must have specific relationships with Masons. Originally, a woman would have to be the daughter, widow, wife, sister, or mother of a master Mason, but the Order now allows other relatives as well as allowing Rainbow Girls to become members when they come of age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Eastern_Star

Thanks for your reply;)

In England all Lodges are under the UGLE, in the USA alot of lodges are not under the UGLE,Because they don't follow the rules or its a made up order like this, so they are alot of rubbish in my eyes, as I said before "freemasonry in the USA is a shambles" there are alot of silly Orders like this in the USA.
I can't even visit there lodge and nor would I want to.

In England Women are not aloud to be Freemasons and never ever will be.

But thankyou for your intrest...:)

siliconpsychosis
06-03-2007, 08:58 PM
Thats an interesting synopsis of Mirrens life Synergy. Thanks. Much of what you wrote confirms to me that she is clearly part of the establishment. Her family background suggests success due to breeding, and I would not be at all surprised if this breeding also means she has reptilian genes.
Furthermore, I would not be at all surprised if we see her in a more blatant role soon, such as the lizard queen in some science fiction movie of the near future.

siliconpsychosis
09-03-2007, 08:36 PM
My suspicions regarding Helen Mirren has been reconfirmed this week, by two new pieces of information that I have picked up in the tabloids this week.
Firstly I read that Helen Mirren was date raped, not once but several times between the ages of 16 and 25. In her words she described the assailants as,

" they were absolutely horrible - so vile and so cruel and alien and nasty and disturbing to me as a female."

The date rape interview appears to have been picked up on dozens of sites through a Google search.

I liked the alien description.

I also read this week that Helen Mirren says she has a real phobia of telephones. She cannot answer a phone.

I am starting to think that Helen Mirren may be a victim of the illuminati. Raped by lizards and now too paranoid to answer phones. Maybe she has been used not only sexually but also manipulated into playing the queen, increasing the chance of the film receiving an oscar and therefore validating claims that the Royals had nothing to do with Diannas death.

ho1ogram
10-03-2007, 03:38 AM
You make a good case. Another victim of their sick ways and may not even know it. If we find it difficult to break out of our programming I can't imagine what it would be like to be genetically predisposed to their influence and mind games. I know from my friends how traumatic rape and sexual abuse can be. The odds would be stacked against someone who is amongst the mind control and manipulatiuon experts. Great thread. Maybe we should send her some love vibes?

siliconpsychosis
10-03-2007, 10:22 PM
Thanks Ho1ogram.

Perhaps the freemasonic symbol on her left hand is a mark to show that she is the property of the illuminati. I wonder if people are marked like this to represent ownership of their minds. Perhaps other 'celebrities' have been marked in the same way.

masonic3
11-03-2007, 12:16 AM
Thanks Ho1ogram.

Perhaps the freemasonic symbol on her left hand is a mark to show that she is the property of the illuminati. I wonder if people are marked like this to represent ownership of their minds. Perhaps other 'celebrities' have been marked in the same way.

freemasonic symbol You made this up?(freemasonic symbol As in the word?) I think you did what a strange word?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????

"Freemasonic" Have to bring it up in lodge...think your self lucku tor in the "ministes"

masonic3
11-03-2007, 12:21 AM
Thanks Ho1ogram.

Perhaps the freemasonic symbol on her left hand is a mark to show that she is the property of the illuminati. I wonder if people are marked like this to represent ownership of their minds. Perhaps other 'celebrities' have been marked in the same way.

freemasonic symbol You made this up?(freemasonic symbol As in the word?) I think you did what a strange word?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????

"Freemasonic" Have to bring it up in lodge...think your self lucky to be in the " minutes in my lodge.... I mean it! "