Demon attacks and such.....And my introduction.

[beautifulfallenvampire]

I have had demons attack me in my sleep and appear in my dreams. It is along story and I am not supposed to talk about it anyway...So I will try to keep it minimal. It was twice that they tried to kill me. And my friends and I are being stalked like crazy by them. Long tory like I said. But basically we are special children. Most have powers and abilities and can shift. I am an empath with some powers. I can do some weather (it depends on my mood) , I have some electrical powers too, sometimes when I walk by appliances when I am extremely emotional they usually turn off or burn out. And I have some healing too. I have healed two of my friends who were ill and injured. I am also a practicing witch. I have had countless paranormal experiences with vampires,demons,ghosts,witches,fairies, amd I have seen a unicorn before. I decided to join this forum when I found out about the reptilians. It shocked me that there was so much deception and secrecy in the world. I am looking for answers and trying to discover my purpose, who I am. Because I am not sure what I am....I am an indigo, though. But I know I am something else. I have heard I am one of the seven daughters of the Titan, Atlas and I am learning more about my spiritual father. My family has no idea about any of this...They would not understand this. My life is a secret to many. Many know about me that I do not know about myself yet and I am on the quest to fullfil my world saving mission. I promised my guardian angel that I would stand by him and and make him proud because when he was alive he was alone. I am alone now for awhile because my angel and I are on trial. He will be back hopefully soon...*sigh* I am truly alone,now.

[cess]

It is along story and I am not supposed to talk about it anyway...

We've got time.

[beautifulfallenvampire]

We've got time.

I am not reallu supposed to say,though. Basically we are preparing for a battle....

[tru3]

I am alone now for awhile because my angel and I are on trial.

what are you on trial for?

[branko]

Roleplayer!

[plat57us]

The magical words "By the power of his blood" will send any demon running miles away.

It refers to the spilt blood of Jesus Christ who dies on the cross for us at calvary and got the victory for us.

Turn to the Lord and pray, I would advise staying away from withccraft too as you will be using spirits who will without a doubt use you, you will aggrevate the situation.

"By the power of his blood"

[zsymon]

The magical words "By the power of his blood" will send any demon running miles away.

It refers to the spilt blood of Jesus Christ who dies on the cross for us at calvary and got the victory for us.

Turn to the Lord and pray, I would advise staying away from withccraft too as you will be using spirits who will without a doubt use you, you will aggrevate the situation.

"By the power of his blood"

Stuff like that never worked for me. The only thing that worked was staying
within love and being empowered in your faith in yourself and your own Light.
Once I reached that stage, I became able to send healing to my attackers,
which also disempowered their ability to harm me.

Sometimes they were even grateful to me for having healed their wounds, even
though I also temporarily took away their dark powers. Calling for help or saying
any religious words, has never worked for me, and believe me I tried. The attacks
started five or six years ago, and are still going on, except now I am invulnerable
to being harmed by them.

[cess]

Roleplayer!

:D

Are you trying to say that someone would come in here and make something up? Preposterous!

[mara]

Are you trying to say that someone would come in here and make something up?

That never happened on DI forum!

[dollanaqua]

:D

Are you trying to say that someone would come in here and make something up? Preposterous!:D

[metacomet]

I found the number of "I's" and "me"'s in your post very interesting.

It indicates that you are more concerned with getting attention than disclosing information to us about the things you've seen.

If you've actually seen so many things, why not tell us of just a single instance? Because you're "not supposed" to?

I don't know...

[dgsd]

Why do these "special being's" or "children" always start out I'm not supposed to say or they say "uh, I can't speak much about it" its like why bother asking us for help or even why use the internet if your so special in the first place and spare me the whole, well, The internet is the best public forum BS! Yes and the most watched by the ones that want to shut you up!

[cess]

What exactly is a fallen vampire anyway?

[mara]

What exactly is a fallen vampire anyway?

If real vampire is someone who sucks blood then the fallen is someone who likes a glass of milk instead :o

[dgsd]

What exactly is a fallen vampire anyway?

Edward and his family from the twilight series. They are the fallen vampire or close to it.:cool:

[branko]

That never happened on DI forum!


Sure?

[beautifulfallenvampire]

what are you on trial for?


No one really tells me about my trial or what it is even about. They said it would be a bit dangerous,though. A trial of my strength I guess. And my friend is in trials too. I wish I had guidance. I need my angel back. I have no idea where he is. He left and I asked my mentor what happened and he said that he would come back after my "liberation". He tells me to be patient and to rely on my own strength but I feel so weak and unprotected. I WONDER IF I would even survive the trials! This is just insane for me. I have no idea where my life is going. Or what is going on to me and my beautiful angel. I wonder if he is safe and happy. That us what I need to know...I want to know where he is...He has been with me almost all my life and he suddenly leaves and my mentor abandons me! There is so much secrecy....

[beautifulfallenvampire]

I found the number of "I's" and "me"'s in your post very interesting.

It indicates that you are more concerned with getting attention than disclosing information to us about the things you've seen.

If you've actually seen so many things, why not tell us of just a single instance? Because you're "not supposed" to?

I don't know...

Allright, I am sorry if I sent out the wrong message. I was only wondering if someone could help me or know about my situation. I cannot say any names,though but ok....I will he as honest as I can without revealing my friends. I went to another forum in the summer to see if I could receive help but no one really answers me. I started to have visions of a battle and of flying and I wanted to see if I could find anything. So I ran into my friends....Long story short they were like me. A lot of them were vey powerful and I started to discover things about myself and it was dangerous because it involved many demons. They started to haunt me in my sleep and I was geting stalked. My mother said that she would see things outseide my window and my mother spoke an unknown tongue in her sleep. It sounded Latin or something. Then I felt something sit on my bed. Another time a demon appeared in my dream unexpectedly. I saw one of my friends get killed in the dream and to this day I have not told her because I did not want to upset her. It was a strange experience because I felt like I was almost floating out of my body because I could see the blankets and my arms as though my eyes were open. I was completely paralyzed and I felt something coming near me. It had a terrible energy and I knew that if it came closer it would kill me. I then stopped breathing and I felt darkness fill inside me. It was the most terrible thing I have imagined, to be confronted with one. I tried to scream but I only grunted. My entire being was helpless....When I made that noise I opened my eyes and it was over. They seem to want to take my soul because if enough sould are taken they can become very powerful demons. And on Halloween one tried to lure me too. It is another long story but I was being suicidal because the last night I witnessed my brother being abused by my mother and a loved one of mine died on Halloween too. I had an asthma attack because I sensed a dark energy following me. I felt like something bad would happen and I was running to keep up because my best friend was ahead of me. All of a sudden a motorcylcle came dangerously close to us and we almost got ran over. I was horrified...When I came back to the house I felt betrayed and alone because my friend left to be with her lover and left me alone for awhile. And everyone else had a partner except for me so I walked away from there. I almost reached a tree. The tree was unlike anything I have ever seen because of the dark energied amerging from it. I almost reached it but my friend ran to me and grabbed me before I reached it. Something was in that tree... I also have a picture of me with a gjost that I will post later.All of the houses I have lived in have been haunted. And I remember one time when I had a nightmare that my friends and I were being taken into a concentration camp and we were being tortured. When I woke up I was bleeding and I got very ill. I thought that I had cancer and I had to go to the hospital and it was a horrible experince because I saw what seemed like a corpse. I saw about two corpses and I think someone died in the room next to me. I was pretty sure I had cancer but it was something else but I still have some pains. And sometimes when I sleep I get scratched and bruised. I took pictures of them when I got them because I was so intruiged but I could show you. There was also blood on my nightgown and pillowcase. Most of them got mysteriously delted when I took them but only one survived....If you want to I can talk more about my experiences because I have had many. If you want I can tell you my vampire story later. I want to show you that I am really being honest.

[branko]

Do you know Bill Compton?

[tru3]

No one really tells me about my trial or what it is even about. They said it would be a bit dangerous,though. A trial of my strength I guess. And my friend is in trials too. I wish I had guidance. I need my angel back. I have no idea where he is. He left and I asked my mentor what happened and he said that he would come back after my "liberation". He tells me to be patient and to rely on my own strength but I feel so weak and unprotected. I WONDER IF I would even survive the trials! This is just insane for me. I have no idea where my life is going. Or what is going on to me and my beautiful angel. I wonder if he is safe and happy. That us what I need to know...I want to know where he is...He has been with me almost all my life and he suddenly leaves and my mentor abandons me! There is so much secrecy....

my wife recently noticed a change in her guides, guides that had been with her for years. one went away, to let her sort things out, and now is back. time is so much more than what we perceive here, ime. and less, at the same time. a twinkling of an eye "there" seems like and eternity "here".

so let me ask you: what would it take for you to feel rock solid, like you are liberated, right now? what's holding you back?

[beautifulfallenvampire]

my wife recently noticed a change in her guides, guides that had been with her for years. one went away, to let her sort things out, and now is back. time is so much more than what we perceive here, ime. and less, at the same time. a twinkling of an eye "there" seems like and eternity "here".

so let me ask you: what would it take for you to feel rock solid, like you are liberated, right now? what's holding you back?

Well I joined this forum to see if someone could have helped me....To see if someone could have beilieved me. But I was wrong.... like always. I want someone who will stand by me. No matter what ever happens. Because I am always humiliated when I need help the most. Always abandoned when I need advice. Always silenced when I need to speak the most. And there is absolutely no one I can trust. Not even my own family. I mioght as well not have a family. They abuse each other when they have the chance. And they are traitors. They want to always send me to a hospital and yet they tell me I can trust them.

[zenith82]

Well I joined this forum to see if someone could have helped me....To see if someone could have beilieved me. But I was wrong.... like always. I want someone who will stand by me. No matter what ever happens. Because I am always humiliated when I need help the most. Always abandoned when I need advice. Always silenced when I need to speak the most. And there is absolutely no one I can trust. Not even my own family. I mioght as well not have a family. They abuse each other when they have the chance. And they are traitors. They want to always send me to a hospital and yet they tell me I can trust them.

People make posts like this all the time, so you will find sombody to talk to here, but you will also get people taking the piss which is understandable, i'm sure you realise that.

My advice, is get rid of the mentor. All the fucked up stories seem to have a "mentor" in them.

"Buy into a mentor get some demons free"

[alien religion]

Hi!!

58 POSSIBLE SIGNS OF ALIEN (fallen angel) ABDUCTION

http://ufozone.ning.com/forum/topics/58-possible-signs-of-alien

link (http://ufozone.ning.com/forum/topics/58-possible-signs-of-alien)

:cool:
___________________________

[tru3]

My advice, is get rid of the mentor. All the fucked up stories seem to have a "mentor" in them.

can't really disagree with that.

Well I joined this forum to see if someone could have helped me....To see if someone could have beilieved me.

i'm willing to believe. that's all i can offer. you really can't ask anything more of me.
if you do, you're robbing me of choice, and we can't really proceed.

if i ask something from someone and they don't have it to give, i can't help but feel betrayed.
your family has never had your experience. they don't have that to draw on, so for them,
they are trying to "help" you as best they can.

isn't expecting them to believe you is like you asking us to believe?
do you see how it works both ways?
that perhaps the seed of the betrayal you are feeling lies somewhere outside of them?

if your family doesn't believe you, find someone who does believe in you.
starting with you. don't doubt that there's a reason your guide is taking a
break. you have an unbroken connection with spirit at all times.
just find the center. it's still inside you. :)

the best advice i could give you is that you take a giant leap toward
liberation when the need for approval is released. it's life changing-- try it, you'll like it!

perhaps your guide is giving you a chance to sort out your priorities. on your
own. that's what a guide would do that had your best interests at heart, imv.

what do you value more? your family's opinion or following your Heart?
"time for you to decide what it is you believe in, Dr. Jones! " :D

and i can almost guarantee that when you do, your guide will be back with a new game plan! :)

[stanislav]

I have had demons attack me in my sleep and appear in my dreams. It is along story and I am not supposed to talk about it anyway...So I will try to keep it minimal. It was twice that they tried to kill me. And my friends and I are being stalked like crazy by them. Long tory like I said. But basically we are special children. Most have powers and abilities and can shift. I am an empath with some powers. I can do some weather (it depends on my mood) , I have some electrical powers too, sometimes when I walk by appliances when I am extremely emotional they usually turn off or burn out. And I have some healing too. I have healed two of my friends who were ill and injured. I am also a practicing witch. I have had countless paranormal experiences with vampires,demons,ghosts,witches,fairies, amd I have seen a unicorn before. I decided to join this forum when I found out about the reptilians. It shocked me that there was so much deception and secrecy in the world. I am looking for answers and trying to discover my purpose, who I am. Because I am not sure what I am....I am an indigo, though. But I know I am something else. I have heard I am one of the seven daughters of the Titan, Atlas and I am learning more about my spiritual father. My family has no idea about any of this...They would not understand this. My life is a secret to many. Many know about me that I do not know about myself yet and I am on the quest to fullfil my world saving mission. I promised my guardian angel that I would stand by him and and make him proud because when he was alive he was alone. I am alone now for awhile because my angel and I are on trial. He will be back hopefully soon...*sigh* I am truly alone,now.

Not again! You've got to be kidding me! Welcome to a brand new type of melodrama right here on David Icke's forum. First it's Kadi the reptilian hybrid girl and now we have a hybrid angel. Notice how both of them consider themselves to be an Indigo. It seems to be a relatively new sort of trend going on within some New Age spiritual circles nowadays. I am special so I must be Indigo or I am indigo so I must be special.

Personally after reading a few of your posts you sound mentally UNSTABLE and maybe just maybe you should listen to whomever suggested that you check yourself into a hospital. It's obvious to me that you are in some sort of delirious state of mind. I can even consider that you might be possessed. This is why I clearly said UNSTABLE. Harsh? Yes! Truth? Yes! I don't see that you seek attention the way Kadi the hybrid girl was but you obviously have some issues that must be dealt before this gets worse.

Also I must add you have brought some religious overtones to the table. Like, demons, angels, that you are on a mission to save the world or fight the demons etc ...

[stanislav]

They want to always send me to a hospital and yet they tell me I can trust them.

I think you just proved my point.

[stanislav]

I have always wanted to be an actress. And my guardian angel is a dead actor. Is the industry really affiliasted with satan?

You guardian angel or not a dead actor nor an angel. Obviously you are dealing with a demon and this once again proves my point that you are possessed.

possessed: occupied by a demonic spirit or force; crazy, insane, mad

Well you decide what you want to do about this but most people here will not give you a good advice other than the few.

[stanislav]

He really needs help. I feel terrible for him. I think that I saw him in Los Angeles this summer and he looked miserable. He was staring right at me too. after staring at me he disappeared. I was so worried. He seems troubled to me. My friend was in love with him but now we are botrh afraid for him because we sense something sinister. I keep having dreams about him too. He always seems so lonely in my dreams and i want to help him. He is lost...I know that he is a good person but in the wrong path. The boy needs help, l;ove and guidance but he never gets true love it kills him. I sense that there is something different about him.

Well I think after reading this post of yours, everything should be clear now. Justin Bieber wasn't looking at you my dear. You are just delusional and must seek help but not the kind of help you seek on message boards. You need real help whether spiritual and/or medical. It's also obvious to me that you must be young. I would say about 18 years old, which probably makes you gullible too. So you will better listen to strangers who will suggest some non sense to you (no myself but many others) rather than listen to your parents (for example). The dream is not about him it is ABOUT YOU. What you see in that dream is yourself my dear. You own reflection. It is you who feels lonely and confused and without love.

[deca]

sounds more like electronic harassment and mind control psychological attack ....voice to skull technology (microwave hearing effect) phantom(remote) touch They attack your mental ability , and nervous system can stimulate just about any sensation feeling emotion plus lots more.....they general use odd voices as its illegal and often mimic demon/alien attacks also targets also claim of ganstalking....

there microwave hearing effect (voice/s in head) is psychological direction...bullshit to manipulate you, mess with your beliefs and make you sound crazy...i,e grandiose or Persecutory or both. also they will expand any belief you have about whats happening to you if it will make you sound delusional or made to manipulate you...i.e do some thing normal that you would not(watch out as they play mind games with you to force you to do pysical stuff but at the time of you doing this you will probadly beileve you have to or some other mind fuck(belief) running around your mind on why you have too, (save the world,past a test, join some group ect....)) .


http://areyoutargeted.com/

http://www.freedomfchs.com/

I would look at mind control techniques what ever it is or how it is doing it too you it will probably be using some of these methods

http://www.phinnweb.org/neuro/brainwash/

[stanislav]

sounds more like electronic harassment and mind control psychological attack ....voice to skull technology (microwave hearing effect) phantom(remote) touch They attack your mental ability , and nervous system can stimulate just about any sensation feeling emotion plus lots more.....they general use odd voices as its illegal and often mimic demon/alien attacks also targets also claim of ganstalking....

there microwave hearing effect (voice/s in head) is psychological direction...bullshit to manipulate you, mess with your beliefs and make you sound crazy...i,e grandiose or Persecutory or both. also they will expand any belief you have about whats happening to you if it will make you sound delusional or made to manipulate you...i.e do some thing .


http://areyoutargeted.com/

http://www.freedomfchs.com/

Not in her case! This is OBVIOUS! She is being harassed by demonic energy. Which also includes alien creatures, elementals like vampires etc ... I think it's actually more of a spiritual matter rather than a medical problem. But how do you help someone who is so immersed in negativity. I am sure her family and friends suffer too. This is a serious matter that must be dealt with immediately before someone is going to pay the consequences.

[deca]

Not in her case! This is OBVIOUS! She is being harassed by demonic energy. Which also includes alien creatures, elementals like vampires etc ... I think it's actually more of a spiritual matter rather than a medical problem. But how do you help someone who is so immersed in negativity. I am sure her family and friends suffer too. This is a serious matter that must be dealt with immediately before someone is going to pay the consequences.

grow up and stop believing in stupid monster's and bollocks...........

the technology exists and the network to target people also does and they have a track record of testing and using this on unwitting subjects.
http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2010/08/neurosecurity-mind-has-no-firewall.html

This "systems" approach to the study of information warfare emphasizes the use of data, referred to as information, to penetrate an adversary's physical defenses that protect data (information) in order to obtain operational or strategic advantage. It has tended to ignore the role of the human body as an information- or data-processor in this quest for dominance except in those cases where an individual's logic or rational thought may be upset via disinformation or deception. As a consequence little attention is directed toward protecting the mind and body with a firewall as we have done with hardware systems. Nor have any techniques for doing so been prescribed. Yet the body is capable not only of being deceived, manipulated, or misinformed but also shut down or destroyed--just as any other data-processing system. The "data" the body receives from external sources--such as electromagnetic, vortex, or acoustic energy waves--or creates through its own electrical or chemical stimuli can be manipulated or changed just as the data (information) in any hardware system can be altered.

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Others, however, look beyond simple PSYOP ties to consider other aspects of the body's data-processing capability. One of the principal open source researchers on the relationship of information warfare to the body's data-processing capability is Russian Dr. Victor Solntsev of the Baumann Technical Institute in Moscow. Solntsev is a young, well-intentioned researcher striving to point out to the world the potential dangers of the computer operator interface. Supported by a network of institutes and academies, Solntsev has produced some interesting concepts. He insists that man must be viewed as an open system instead of simply as an organism or closed system. As an open system, man communicates with his environment through information flows and communications media. One's physical environment, whether through electromagnetic, gravitational, acoustic, or other effects, can cause a change in the psycho-physiological condition of an organism, in Solntsev's opinion. Change of this sort could directly affect the mental state and consciousness of a computer operator. This would not be electronic war or information warfare in the traditional sense, but rather in a nontraditional and non-US sense. It might encompass, for example, a computer modified to become a weapon by using its energy output to emit acoustics that debilitate the operator. It also might encompass, as indicated below, futuristic weapons aimed against man's "open system."

this tech got called the voice of "GOD" but do you really think they would not pretend/stimulate to be the devil , aliens, demons etc......

[stanislav]

grow up and stop believing in stuiped monster and bollocks...........

the technology exsits and the network to target people also does and they have a track record of testing and using this on unwhitten subjects....

http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2010/08/neurosecurity-mind-has-no-firewall.html



this tech got called the voice of "GOD" but do you really think they would not pretend/stimulate to be the devil , aliens, demons etc......

Please ... The only person who needs to grow here is YOU. I have gone through this stage too before and I have actually GREW UP OUT OF IT. Do you think I am not aware of this skull to skull technology? You are just another conspiracy theorist thinking every voice someone has in their head is mind control by the government or every white van is following you. I have seen enough of this garbage on this message board. People like yourself are chasing a phantom. Blue beam technology, mind control, electronic harassment NWO etc ... It's all detraction from the real. It's just a drama which is not helping humanity to evolve.

[lizzy]

i think deca's right......it;s called the technotronic era not the middle ages......

[deca]

Please ... The only person who needs to grow here is YOU. I have gone through this stage too before and I have actually GREW UP OUT OF IT. Do you think I am not aware of this skull to skull technology? You are just another conspiracy theorist thinking every voice someone has in their head is mind control by the government or every white van is following you. I have seen enough of this garbage on this message board. People like yourself are chasing a phantom. Blue beam technology, mind control, NWO etc ... It's all detraction from the real. It's just a drama that is not helping humanity to evolve.

sorry i deal in facts not fantasy :rolleyes:

oh it not technology under development by the government agency's and military complex but vampires and goblins...oh please .......:rolleyes:...you can't sue or make accountable vampires or goblins...


what if the person under this attack gets psychological direction to stick a wooden steak through somebodys heart in the belief she will be freed......then rots in jail for the rest of her life .....( the voices just laugh at them until they hang themselfs in thier cell)

the paper full of people that hear voices that tell them to do all kinds of horific acts...

[lizzy]

Please ... The only person who needs to grow here is YOU. I have gone through this stage too before and I have actually GREW UP OUT OF IT. Do you think I am not aware of this skull to skull technology? You are just another conspiracy theorist thinking every voice someone has in their head is mind control by the government or every white van is following you. I have seen enough of this garbage on this message board. People like yourself are chasing a phantom. Blue beam technology, mind control, NWO etc ... It's all detraction from the real. It's just a drama which is not helping humanity to evolve.

but what deca refers to we know exists........I think posesssion by an entity is pyschological......i hope I'm right cus the other layers horror upon horror.....

[deca]

being the borg or a human ant(sim) is not evolving ....

there's natural evolving ...then there's the Frankenstein scientific dictatorship idea of evolving paid for and pursued by the megalomaniacs leaders of the world

[stanislav]

sorry i deal in facts not fantasy :rolleyes:

oh it not technology under development by the government agency's and military complex but vampires and goblins...oh please .......:rolleyes:...you can't sue or make accountable vampires or goblins...


what if the person under this attack gets psychological direction to stick a wooden steak through somebodys heart in the belief she will be freed......then rots in jail for the rest of her life .....

Wait! What "FACTS" do you deal with? Do you have actual facts the can discredit the existence of such spiritual beings? PLEASE SHOW ME ONE! You are the one who is living in fantasy land, not myself. I am very well aware of the electronic harassment. It's a 60 years old technology. It's ANCIENT! Do you understand? People have better things to do than harass others decade after decade. You make no sense when you say that somehow millions of people who have been visited by demonic entities of all kinds, all over the world FOR CENTURIES are all being electronically harassed. It is YOU who deals with fantasy and total non sense. Wake up little fella, there are technologies out there beyond what your mind can even grasp and you are still stuck with CIA mind control. You have clearly no idea. Believe what you want but this isn't electronic harassment in her case.

[stanislav]

but what deca refers to we know exists........I think posesssion by an entity is pyschological......i hope I'm right cus the other layers horror upon horror.....

Of course it is psychological! Because such entities work though your mental and emotional body. Everything is psychological when it comes to the physical body. Your reality is dealt through your mental and emotional senses. But electronic harassment is just a speck in the dust. All this idiotic governmental conspiracies are not going to change your destiny. These are simply diversions form the true reality behind the veil.

[deca]

Wait! What "FACTS" do you deal with? Do you have actual facts the can discredit the existence of such spiritual beings? PLEASE SHOW ME ONE! You are the one who is living in fantasy land, not myself. I am very well aware of the electronic harassment. It's a 60 years old technology. It's ANCIENT! Do you understand? People have better things to do than harass others decade after decade. You make no sense when you say that somehow millions of people who have been visited by demonic entities of all kinds, all over the world FOR CENTURIES are all being electronically harassed. It is YOU who deals with fantasy and total non sense. Wake up little fella, there are technologies out there beyond what your mind can even grasp and you are still stuck with CIA mind control. You have clearly no idea. Believe what you want but this isn't electronic harassment in her case.

simple look at DR persingers work and understand how weak complex magnetic fields and other things that can effect and infulence the human mind ...these things happen often in nature and have been messured at ghost hot spots, also look how infrasound can effect the mind
Infrasound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

people have stuided this and espescally the militray and they have weoponised them and the energy (EMF,microwaves, magnetic fields) ect...

Infrasound has been known to cause feelings of awe or fear in humans. Since it is not consciously perceived, it can make people feel vaguely that supernatural events are taking place.[16]

Some film soundtracks make use of infrasound to produce unease or disorientation in the audience. Irréversible is one such movie,[citation needed] as is Paranormal Activity.

The infrasound and low-frequency noise produced by some wind turbines is believed to cause certain breathing and digestive problems in humans and other animals close to the turbines.[17]

so what you should do is see if its from a natural source, or from a artifical one....if your experiences its controled then its probadly from an artifical one i,e mind control & electronic harrassment experiment/test/use

who the hell do you think controls the EM spectrum and has all kinds of technology to exploit/use/sense it...

[stanislav]

being the borg or a human ant(sim) is not evolving ....

there's natural evolving ...then there's the Frankenstein scientific dictatorship idea of evolving paid for and pursued by the megalomaniacs leaders of the world

If anyone is being mind controlled is YOURSELF. How many hours a day do you listen to Alex Jones?

[stanislav]

simple look at DR persingers work and understand how weak complex magnetic fields and other things that can effect and infulence the human mind ...these things happen often in nature and have been messured at ghost hot spots, also look how infrasound can effect the mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound

people have stuided this and espescally the militray and they have weoponised them and the energy (EMF,microwaves, magnetic fields) ect...

So are you saying that by inducing a certain sound frequency people will begin to see aliens, demons, unicorns? They will begin to hear voices talking to them in a clear dialect that actually make sense? Right? Since WHEN sound induction or hallucinations made any sense other than random color and patterns unless they are being controlled by intelligence? Now please instead of quoting and providing links like a Bible Thumper why don't you have your own logical explanation. You still can not explain to me WHY. Where is your facts? What about the pre era of electronic harassment? Not the 60 years old ancient technology that can be build by a few bored college kids.

[deca]

So are you saying that by inducing a certain sound frequency people will begin to see aliens, demons, unicorns? They will begin to hear voices talking to them in a clear dialect that actually make sense? Right? Since WHEN sound induction or hallucinations made any sense other than random color and patterns unless they are being controlled by intelligence? Now please instead of quoting and providing links like a Bible Thumper why don't you have your own logical explanation. You still can not explain to me WHY. Where is your facts? What about the pre era of electronic harassment? Not the 60 years old ancient technology that can be build by a few bored college kids.

its not just sound is it EMF,microwaves ect....the whole EM spectrum

CNN: Electromagnetic Mind Control Weapons (1 of 2)
CNN: Electromagnetic Mind Control Weapons (1 of 2) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgJ6SpHZir8

CNN: Electromagnetic Mind Control Weapons (2 of 2)
CNN: Electromagnetic Mind Control Weapons (2 of 2) - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boZIofptQiw

this was on TV back in 1985

just look what Dr persinger can do with a weak complex magnetic field ...simliar strenght what a alram clock emmits

theres a part in the document were they create images in the mind even back then

Science Channel Admits Microwaves Used in Mind Control
Science Channel Admits Microwaves Used in Mind Control - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPb3R5YTo4

The God Helmet - from "Through the Wormhole"
The God Helmet - from "Through the Wormhole" - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN3ggRgY7Ac

you get it cause a sense presences then hit them with a voice to skull technology....
Project MKULTRA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said:

The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an "extensive testing and experimentation" program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens "at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign." Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to "unwitting subjects in social situations." At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers.[9]

[metacomet]

Wait! What "FACTS" do you deal with? Do you have actual facts the can discredit the existence of such spiritual beings? PLEASE SHOW ME ONE! You are the one who is living in fantasy land, not myself.

Stan, you are not the first to be frustrated with decas insistence that everything non-physical is from secret government technology.

There are genuine cosmic frequencies that we are all experiencing at every moment that simply do not come from the government.

But most people, even though they seem terrified of the idea - want to blame all spiritual problems or issues on someone else. They want to pin it on an easily identifiable source.

If that is the only way they can find comfort you have to let them... even if they fight and shout at anyone testing their comfort blanket notion of reality.

Yes, there is real tech being used on us at all times. But other dimensions exist and not every spiritual experience can be chalked up to human invention.

[deca]

Stan, you are not the first to be frustrated with decas insistence that everything non-physical is from secret government technology.

There are genuine cosmic frequencies that we are all experiencing at every moment that simply do not come from the government.

But most people, even though they seem terrified of the idea - want to blame all spiritual problems or issues on someone else. They want to pin it on an easily identifiable source.

If that is the only way they can find comfort you have to let them... even if they fight and shout at anyone testing their comfort blanket notion of reality.

Yes, there is real tech being used on us at all times. But other dimensions exist and not every spiritual experience can be chalked up to human invention.

so you addmit there is government technology and experiments going on


well If I was get fucked by something then I would look at the government technology and experiments first.....

There are genuine cosmic frequencies that we are all experiencing at every moment that simply do not come from the government.

how much gets through all the esmog??? mobile phones, satilites wifi TV radio radar gps .haarp chemtrials .ect....plus all the natural sources earths nautral field ???

But most people, even though they seem terrified of the idea - want to blame all spiritual problems or issues on someone else. They want to pin it on an easily identifiable source.

yep I will blame and easily identifiable source thats acting ileagally and effecting my life and human rights....
spiritual problems

don`t have any sorry.

hmmm think this banker ballout is a "spirtual problem" all that money seems to have disappeared into the 4th demension.:D
Satellite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An animation depicting the orbits of GPS satellites in medium earth orbit.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/ConstellationGPS.gif

[cess]

No wonder this place is so popular with the trolls. Look at the argument this one has stirred up. Troll accomplished, right?

Oops, I dropped the T word...

[lizzy]

Of course it is psychological! Because such entities work though your mental and emotional body. Everything is psychological when it comes to the physical body. Your reality is dealt through your mental and emotional senses. But electronic harassment is just a speck in the dust. All this idiotic governmental conspiracies are not going to change your destiny. These are simply diversions form the true reality behind the veil.

Good, thanku stanslav, |I'm glad it's NOT external demons.....I do not wish to believe they exist and hope they are'nt part of your true reality.
I 've made a couple of bad moves recently and got myself a bit screwed up , this is the result of my own actions / or in-action......not microwave or pyscotronic ( not that they are'nt use daily in large doses)........we are living in a scientific enslavement....it is more than a speck in the dust.

[lizzy]

So are you saying that by inducing a certain sound frequency people will begin to see aliens, demons, unicorns? They will begin to hear voices talking to them in a clear dialect that actually make sense? Right? Since WHEN sound induction or hallucinations made any sense other than random color and patterns unless they are being controlled by intelligence? Now please instead of quoting and providing links like a Bible Thumper why don't you have your own logical explanation. You still can not explain to me WHY. Where is your facts? What about the pre era of electronic harassment? Not the 60 years old ancient technology that can be build by a few bored college kids.

I think prior to this tech. , the church did a pretty good number on the people. Also there has always been those with bi-chemical dosorders who hallucinate , not to mention natural mescaline / LSD type origanisms in rotted grain. ect.

[dollanaqua]

Metallica - Nothing Else Matters (Studio Version) - YouTube ;)

[tru3]

These are simply diversions form the true reality behind the veil.

"sad but true"

Metallica - Sad But True - YouTube

[stanislav]

Good, thanku stanslav, |I'm glad it's NOT external demons.....I do not wish to believe they exist and hope they are'nt part of your true reality.
I 've made a couple of bad moves recently and got myself a bit screwed up , this is the result of my own actions / or in-action......not microwave or pyscotronic ( not that they are'nt use daily in large doses)........we are living in a scientific enslavement....it is more than a speck in the dust.

It's not a matter of what you believe to be true or not. Reality is more than just what you can see, feel etc ... with your FIVE senses. What you can see and sense is obliviously just a TINY spectrum of what really is out there. Also it is true that you live in the material world and must obey to it's DENSITY LAWS of the third dimensional reality you must also realize that it is once again not the end of all that is.

Remember science is as much dogmatic as it's counterpart religion. Since you exist in duality universe science and religion are simply two extremes who are trying to prove each other their righteousness. Both of course have merit of truth but both are false.

Demonic beings are real. Neither they are always external. First of all one must define what is a demonic being? Demonic beings are any beings that are not human and are not of this reality. Demonic beings have always ulterior motives and are tricksters. There is a wide variety is demonic beings, including what one can only describe as an alien virus. They attach themselves through your brain stem and live within your own very thoughts. Most demonic beings of such quality feed upon your aether energy. There are also energetic beings that may seem demonic at first because they guard certain knowledge but I would rather not speak about such for it is forbidden by the word of POWER.

[deca]

stuff outside our 5 senses is not fulled up with demons:rolleyes:

http://www.antonine-education.co.uk/physics_gcse/Unit_1/Topic_5/em_spectrum.jpg


http://www.freshgasflow.com/images/physics_images/us_sound_images/intro/sound_range.gif
theres technology that monitor and use it


I like how I get singled out for spreading fear and ignorance !!!!!

[stanislav]

I think prior to this tech. , the church did a pretty good number on the people. Also there has always been those with bi-chemical dosorders who hallucinate , not to mention natural mescaline / LSD type origanisms in rotted grain. ect.

Sure humans are susceptible to brainwashing. It's not something new. But this does not deny the existence of other realities. Have you ever wondered that maybe you have been programmed by scientific dogma (without consciously knowing) to look at the world from a materialistic point of view? Duality! Remember? You will find that people from European countries will be more open minded to the existence of other wordy beings and visitations than those in the Western world. So what does it tell you? Reality in itself is multi layered. The deeper you dwell upon it the more you are able to see, sense and REALIZE. Most normal people (everyday people) live in a safety cocoon. There are those of you who would rather believe in the present scientific method because it is instantaneous to your 5 sense reality. Such mindset sometimes reminds me much that if a child. Children will believe anything as long as they can see, touch or taste. All they have to be is presented something that is TANGIBLE (show me the evidence etc ...), something they can see, touch or taste. So this is precisely how the materialistic mind works. With religious people is quite the opposite. They do not require any evidence tangible or otherwise and will beLIEve anything that suites their wishful thinking.

[deca]

Stag & Hounds EMF effects
Stag & Hounds EMF effects - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vp2M_Svnf8

[stanislav]

stuff outside our 5 senses is not fulled up with demons:rolleyes:

I like how I get singled out for spreading fear and ignorance !!!!!

You surely love spread you dogmatic scientific beliefs and that what they are beLIEfs ... I asked you before TO STOP quoting and linking every time you are trying to "prove" something. Do you ever think for yourself or do you always have to provide OTHER SOURCE in order to make ANY SENSE? How are you any different than religious folks who never can form their OWN opinion and who keep quoting from the Bible as if there is nothing beyond. Can't you see that you are simply the opposite duality extreme of the same coin? How can you claim that your spectrum of radiation is outside of 5 sense reality? It's is not accurate! THE MONITORING-SURVEILLANCE-SPECTROGRAPH SYSTEM IS BASE UPON THE HUMAN 5 SENSE. How can you not understand this ??? Obviously you can't because you have brainwashed yourself with your materialistic scientific view. THIS DEVICES WERE MADE BY HUMANS SO THAT THIS HUMANS CAN VIEW RADIATION SPECTRUM ACCORDING TO THEIR 5 SENSE REALITY.

[deca]

You surely love spread you dogmatic scientific beliefs and that what they are beLIEfs ... I asked you before TO STOP quoting and linking every time you are trying to "prove" something. Do you ever think for yourself or do you always have to provide OTHER SOURCE in order to make ANY SENSE? How are you any different than religious folks who never can form their OWN opinion and who keep quoting from the Bible as if there is nothing beyond. Can't you see that you are simply the opposite duality extreme of the same coin? How can you claim that your spectrum of radiation is outside of 5 sense reality? It's is not accurate! THE MONITORING-SURVEILLANCE-SPECTROGRAPH SYSTEM IS BASE UPON THE HUMAN 5 SENSE. How can you not understand this ??? Obviously you can't because you have brainwashed yourself with your materialistic scientific view. THIS DEVICES WERE MADE BY HUMANS SO THAT THIS HUMANS CAN VIEW RADIATION SPECTRUM ACCORDING TO THEIR 5 SENSE REALITY.

so you believe in invisible and undetectable entity's that can't be proved or disproved ?
Sounds like what religious people of faith do to me.....

so you ask for proof ...then when I provide it you say I should not rely on it...:confused:

you are just another person of blind belief and fath with a new age twist on it....


scietiffic method
http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/overview_scientific_method2.gif

obviously this is difficult if you are only relying on subjective experience and I take it you rate peoples subjective experience above the scientific method

but with the knowledge of the effects of infrasound & emf how can you just really on subjective experience when dealing with paranormal events

[stanislav]

so you believe in invisible and undetectable entity's that can't be proved or disproved ?
Sounds like what religious people of faith do to me.....

so you ask for proof ...then when I provide it you say I should not rely on it...:confused:

you are just another person of blind belief and fath with a new age twist on it....


scietiffic method
http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/overview_scientific_method2.gif

obviously this is difficult if you are only relying on subjective experience and I take it you rate peoples subjective experience above the scientific method

but with the knowledge of the effects of infrasound & emf how can you just really on subjective experience when dealing with paranormal events


"Most of the time, every thing is not black, white, grey or yellow but is mostly invisible - " The 2004 Nobel Prize Winning " Colour Force " of Quarks and Gluons, in the vibrant DNA, the Living Wave in the Universal Mind.

Dr. Josef Allen Hynek (May 1, 1910 – April 27, 1986) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist:

"I hold it entirely possible," he said, "that a technology exists, which encompasses both the physical and the psychic, the material and the mental. There are stars that are millions of years older than the sun. There may be a civilization that is millions of years more advanced than man's. We have gone from Kitty Hawk to the moon in some seventy years, but it's possible that a million-year-old civilization may know something that we don't ... I hypothesize an 'M&M' technology encompassing the mental and material realms. The psychic realms, so mysterious to us today, may be an ordinary part of an advanced technology."

John Edward Mack, M.D. (October 4, 1929–September 27, 2004) was an American psychiatrist, writer, and professor at Harvard Medical School. He was a Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer, and a leading authority on the spiritual or transformational effects of alleged alien abduction experiences

New Proof from Oxford: Parallel Universes Exist:

Parallel universes aren’t just the stuff of sci-fi, according to a mathematical discovery by Oxford scientists. The breakthrough is being described as "one of the most important developments in the history of science".

Faster Than the Speed of Light? Pulsars Point to "Yes"

We learned in our intro to science courses that information cannot be transmitted faster than the speed of light. Yet laboratory experiments done over the last 30 years clearly show that some things appear to break this speed limit without abrogating Einstein's special theory of relativity.

But now, astrophysicists in the US have observed such superluminal speeds in space in the form of radio pulses from a pulsar.

So who is IGNORANT ? YOU or ME. The answer is CLEAR! IT IS YOU!

You have no clue, no idea what you are talking about! Before you open your ignorant mouth do some research. I don't want to hear about your mind control 60 years old technology that can be put together by a few college kids. You need to wake up and smell the coffee because even science becoming aware of the INVISIBLE. NEED MORE?

Here is your BEYOND VISIBLE RANGE SPECTRUM cameras capturing multiple UFO's (11 to be exact!) by the Mexican military.

UFOs - FOX News - Mexican Air Force - CNN News - OVNIs - YouTube

Sir Isaac Newton FRS (4 January 1643 – 31 March 1727 [OS: 25 December 1642 – 20 March 1726])[1] was an English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, alchemist, and theologian

Although the laws of motion and universal gravitation became Newton's best-known discoveries, he warned against using them to view the Universe as a mere machine, as if akin to a great clock. He said, "Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done."

[lizzy]

Demonic beings are real. Neither they are always external. First of all one must define what is a demonic being? Demonic beings are any beings that are not human and are not of this reality. Demonic beings have always ulterior motives and are tricksters. There is a wide variety is demonic beings, including what one can only describe as an alien virus. They attach themselves through your brain stem and live within your own very thoughts. Most demonic beings of such quality feed upon your aether energy. There are also energetic beings that may seem demonic at first because they guard certain knowledge but I would rather not speak about such for it is forbidden by the word of POWER.

thanks staislav,.....I know there is pure evil in this world, It's usary and slavery, both pure evil in our sub-human scum elite at the top and fostered by them throughout the world. The only thing alien about them is that they aer'nt fully human.....

[stanislav]

thanks staislav,.....I know there is pure evil in this world, It's usary and slavery, both pure evil in our sub-human scum elite at the top and fostered by them throughout the world. The only thing alien about them is that they aer'nt fully human.....

One more thing to remember! Light and dark, good and evil, love and hate, religion and science are all duality EXTREMES. One must neutralize both the darkness within (getting rid of your own demons) and Light (getting rid of your desires). Love is considered to be a "positive" outcome. Love alone will not grant you FREEDOM or TRUTH, POWER or WISDOM. Love is DESIRE (degraded will) and desires lead to MORE illusions. This is why I speak against the New Age and similar movements who promote Love and LIEght. False light it is! They speak about unconditional love but ignore TRUTH. And thus many are being deceived in meanwhile. Even mother earth is trying to find it's CENTER WITHIN DUALITY. This is what is being referred to as ASCENSION. One can not truly ascend and achieve total freedom beyond the 4th density reality if they cannot find their true center. But it is far more complicated than this. Many things require to achieve true ascension or more accurately DENOUEMENT.

[lizzyking]

LOL!!

Queen - Dragon Attack (Lyrics) - YouTube

[lizzyking]

thanks staislav,.....I know there is pure evil in this world, It's usary and slavery, both pure evil in our sub-human scum elite at the top and fostered by them throughout the world. The only thing alien about them is that they aer'nt fully human.....


In 1984, the third and final copy was written from memory by the last survivor of the original researchers: Andrew Lobaczewski. Zbigniew Brzezinski blocked its publication.

http://www.ponerology.com/index.html



A new brain for Barack Obama:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2007/03/a_new_brain_for_barack_obama

[deca]

"Most of the time, every thing is not black, white, grey or yellow but is mostly invisible - " The 2004 Nobel Prize Winning " Colour Force " of Quarks and Gluons, in the vibrant DNA, the Living Wave in the Universal Mind.

Dr. Josef Allen Hynek (May 1, 1910 – April 27, 1986) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist:

"I hold it entirely possible," he said, "that a technology exists, which encompasses both the physical and the psychic, the material and the mental. There are stars that are millions of years older than the sun. There may be a civilization that is millions of years more advanced than man's. We have gone from Kitty Hawk to the moon in some seventy years, but it's possible that a million-year-old civilization may know something that we don't ... I hypothesize an 'M&M' technology encompassing the mental and material realms. The psychic realms, so mysterious to us today, may be an ordinary part of an advanced technology."

John Edward Mack, M.D. (October 4, 1929–September 27, 2004) was an American psychiatrist, writer, and professor at Harvard Medical School. He was a Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer, and a leading authority on the spiritual or transformational effects of alleged alien abduction experiences

New Proof from Oxford: Parallel Universes Exist:

Parallel universes aren’t just the stuff of sci-fi, according to a mathematical discovery by Oxford scientists. The breakthrough is being described as "one of the most important developments in the history of science".

Faster Than the Speed of Light? Pulsars Point to "Yes"

We learned in our intro to science courses that information cannot be transmitted faster than the speed of light. Yet laboratory experiments done over the last 30 years clearly show that some things appear to break this speed limit without abrogating Einstein's special theory of relativity.

But now, astrophysicists in the US have observed such superluminal speeds in space in the form of radio pulses from a pulsar.

So who is IGNORANT ? YOU or ME. The answer is CLEAR! IT IS YOU!

You have no clue, no idea what you are talking about! Before you open your ignorant mouth do some research. I don't want to hear about your mind control 60 years old technology that can be put together by a few college kids. You need to wake up and smell the coffee because even science becoming aware of the INVISIBLE. NEED MORE?

Here is your BEYOND VISIBLE RANGE SPECTRUM cameras capturing multiple UFO's (11 to be exact!) by the Mexican military.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOOZ_IPb6Y

Sir Isaac Newton FRS (4 January 1643 – 31 March 1727 [OS: 25 December 1642 – 20 March 1726])[1] was an English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, alchemist, and theologian

Although the laws of motion and universal gravitation became Newton's best-known discoveries, he warned against using them to view the Universe as a mere machine, as if akin to a great clock. He said, "Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done."

does not prove that vampires are real thou does it....you can say anything its from the 4th demension or use unknown energy that science can`t messure ......

but how can we experience these? yes you can messure the effect in humans with neurosciece as the human brain is the root of human experience so does not matter what it is it has to effect the human mind and body so it can process it would you not agree?

Dr. Persinger's God Helmet
Dr. Persinger's God Helmet - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YPOTaUyvA0

so Dr persinger can stimulate these experences via weak complec magnetic fields and the same/simliar magnetic fields have been found at ghost hunted sites and also makes part of the Tectonic Strain Hypothesis (geo stress)

also there is a relationship from the earth magnetic field and brain waves Schumann Resonances so disturbances and faults/anomalies could case disturbances and faults/anomalies in the mind .
so at least there is a theory with experiments and positive results .....whats your based on possibility/beliefs on stuff beyond sciences and this is a Grey area fulled with all kind of theory that can't be verified.

You have no clue, no idea what you are talking about! Before you open your ignorant mouth do some research. I don't want to hear about your mind control 60 years old technology that can be put together by a few college kids. You need to wake up and smell the coffee because even science becoming aware of the INVISIBLE. NEED MORE?

ether have you as you can`t verify anything and i guess you are relying on other people with expensive technology and years of research to find some gap in science for you to exploite.....before man traveled the world they used to say demons and see monster inhabited the end of the world....

again technology changes rapidly and also the military complex is years ahead of civy street so ware do you think this 60 year old technology is now?

UFO stands for Unidentified flying object.....so they probadly advance militray aircraft

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059482334&postcount=54

You surely love spread you dogmatic scientific beliefs and that what they are beLIEfs ... I asked you before TO STOP quoting and linking every time you are trying to "prove" something. Do you ever think for yourself or do you always have to provide OTHER SOURCE in order to make ANY SENSE? How are you any different than religious folks who never can form their OWN opinion and who keep quoting from the Bible as if there is nothing beyond. Can't you see that you are simply the opposite duality extreme of the same coin? How can you claim that your spectrum of radiation is outside of 5 sense reality? It's is not accurate! THE MONITORING-SURVEILLANCE-SPECTROGRAPH SYSTEM IS BASE UPON THE HUMAN 5 SENSE. How can you not understand this ??? Obviously you can't because you have brainwashed yourself with your materialistic scientific view. THIS DEVICES WERE MADE BY HUMANS SO THAT THIS HUMANS CAN VIEW RADIATION SPECTRUM ACCORDING TO THEIR 5 SENSE REALITY.


so if they capture something unidentified then they are valid ......so you can cherry pick science and evidence to fit your belief but nobody else can?????
double standards

hmm see how these beliefs work take some folk lore/belief ....cherry pick some science add some evdence /video anomily .....say thats proof and true then discredit anything else that explians it with out the folk lore/belief

[stanislav]

Alright let me dissect your MATERIALISTIC IGNORANCE.

So I've watched the video you presented where Dr. Persinger CLAIMS that by inducing a weak electromagnetic field over temple lobes area of the brain he can replicate everything including N.D.E. (Near Death Experience).

Now let me ask you this ... How in the world can someone have NDE when the EEG (electroencephalogram) machine shows a flat line? Flat line means NO BRAIN ACTIVITY! Aside from his OBVIOUS ERROR the people who described their experiences were all vague! One of the participants is saying that she started seeing faces but these were distorted faces, another person was hearing voices but once again never said what was said to him, another person was describing some sort of malevolent presence but could not identify it. All of their experiences were described in VAGUE manner. These experiences do not resemble even remotely what others describe in alien abduction cases, near death experiences or any other interactions with other wordy beings. Their experiences unlike in this failed experiment are VIVID, clear and many of them can actually remember exactly what they have been told, taught and felt. These are not some random vague faces or random voices these experiences contain precise dialogue(s) with meaning and reason though sometimes obscure with their intended purpose but nonetheless vivid and clear.

Also read this ... (I am sure you are aware of this controversy but you decided to omit this FACT in order to prove your materialistic righteousness ... well you FAILED ONCE AGAIN!)

"There is controversy as to the source of the effects Persinger measured. In December 2004 Nature reported that a group of Swedish researchers lead by Pehr Granqvist, a psychologist at Uppsala University in Sweden, had attempted to replicate Persinger's experiments under double-blind conditions, and were not able to verify the effect.[6] The study was published in Neuroscience Letters in 2005[7] Granqvist claimed that Persinger's experiments were not carried out "double-blind," i.e. the participants in Persinger's trials, were often graduate students who knew what sort of results to expect, and there was the potential for the experimenter's expectations to be transmitted to experimental subjects by unconscious cues. The participants were also frequently given an idea of what was happening, according to Granqvist, by being asked to fill in questionnaires designed to test their suggestibility to paranormal experiences before the trials were conducted. Granqvist failed to replicate Persinger's experiments double-blinded, and concluded that the presence or absence of the magnetic field had no relationship with any religious or spiritual experience reported by the participants, but was predicted entirely by their suggestibility and personality traits."

[deca]

you sleep for 8 hours do you dream for 8 hours?????

these people may of flat lined but when they were consious and recalled what happend they were not how do they know what they experienced was during there flat line peroid not before or after?


Granqvist failed to replicate Persinger's experiments double-blinded

think Dr persinger has answered this by Granqvist not using the right settings

http://www.shaktitechnology.com/granqvist_persinger.htm
The software Granqvist used was provided by Persinger and Koren, but it required either a calibration program or a 286 PC. Stan Koren, technician for persinger's group, authored a calibration program which went into use shortly after the need for it was discovered (V. 1.4). Granqvist cannot be blamed because the bug wasn't found until after he was provided with the software (V. 1.15). He would have been sent another version had he stayed in touch.

Granqvist reported using a Pentuim PRO PC, which would give it a processor speed between 166 and 200mhz. Granqvist's version of COMPLEX was written for the 286 series, with processor speeds close to 10 mhz. Pehr Granqvist ran his signals around ten times too fast.

plus there is plenty of videos of people actually reporting effects just google the god helemet

Michael Shermer Out of Body Experiment
Michael Shermer Out of Body Experiment - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0


some random vague faces or random voices

the militray have infrasound,ultrasound and microwave based weopons i.e voice to skull technology and have admit in the past testing on unwitten human subjects and even in mind control experiments...

[stanislav]

does not prove that vampires are real thou does it....you can say anything its from the 4th demension or use unknown energy that science can`t messure ......


What in the hell are you talking about? Show me WHERE in this entire thread did I mentioned vampires? It's obvious to me that you are trying your best to win your argument by resorting to a sleazy method in order to prove your scientific dogma. Just to keep your distorted viewpoint for one more day. It's crumbling as we speak. You have no clue what you are talking about and at the same time you are jumping from one topic to another. How did we get from electronic harassment and mind control to vampires? In fact I have noticed that you are twisted everything I presented to you in order to fit your own defensive argument and then you have the guts to tell me that I am cherry picking. YOU ARE! I presented you with quotes from the very scientific minds that you give so much credence to. I wanted to show you that even the scientific minds are becoming aware of the invisible. That conscious existence is not merely the function of the brain. So when I show you UFOs you say it's some sort of advanced secret aircraft, ignoring that fact that this was filmed the the military itself who had no clue what this UFOs where. Do you think if this were man made aircraft they would need an infrared camera to capture them? Ignoring the fact that there were 11 of them. Do you understand 11? No because you do not wish to see. Your mind set is SET. You believe that everything can be explained by science even things that science cannot prove at this moment and are unknown you still claim they have scientific explanation. So it is obvious to me that you have closed your mind and only keep a tiny hole just to see one ASPECT of reality.

[stanislav]

you sleep for 8 hours do you dream for 8 hours?????

these people may of flat lined but when they were consious and recalled what happend they were not how do they know what they experienced was during there flat line peroid not before or after?


Do you realize what you are doing? I asked you a question and you immediately ignoredthe fact that it is impossible to have any hallucinations (as you refer to them) when your brain has no activity. So instead of answering my question you avoid it and then pose a counter question. Like I said you have cheap tactics to win your arguments. In fact none of them hold any water. As I repeatedly proved before. The answer to your question is consciousness. Your consciousness exists regardless of your brain activity.There is constant exchange of information between consciousness and your brain. Consciousness is unable to express itself in material reality in the way you understand.

[deca]

Do you realize what you are doing? I asked you a question and you immediately ignoredthe fact that it is impossible to have any hallucinations (as you refer to them) when your brain has no activity. So instead of answering my question you avoid it and then pose a counter question. Like I said you have cheap tactics to win your arguments. In fact none of them hold any water. As I repeatedly proved before. The answer to your question is consciousness. Your consciousness exists regardless of your brain activity.There is constant exchange of information between consciousness and your brain. Consciousness is unable to express itself in material reality in the way you understand.

again the person could off have there experinces just before they went into flat line....i.e brain and body closing down or just after they flat lined ......when you wake up do you remmber your dream like you just had it ?

[beautifulfallenvampire]

Well I cannot say I expected my discussion to go this way but oh well....:confused:

[beautifulfallenvampire]

I barely recognized it when I logged on...I never knew it would cause arguments. Sorry....But anyways I am getting some guidance from somewhere else. I think it might work this time. I am learning so much and meeting new friends. But I still keep having nightmares and I am sure my guide wants to tell me something related to his death. It was very mysterious. He might have been murdered by the NWO.....I think he wants to be justified and he seems very lonely.

[beautifulfallenvampire]

can't really disagree with that.



i'm willing to believe. that's all i can offer. you really can't ask anything more of me.
if you do, you're robbing me of choice, and we can't really proceed.

if i ask something from someone and they don't have it to give, i can't help but feel betrayed.
your family has never had your experience. they don't have that to draw on, so for them,
they are trying to "help" you as best they can.

isn't expecting them to believe you is like you asking us to believe?
do you see how it works both ways?
that perhaps the seed of the betrayal you are feeling lies somewhere outside of them?

if your family doesn't believe you, find someone who does believe in you.
starting with you. don't doubt that there's a reason your guide is taking a
break. you have an unbroken connection with spirit at all times.
just find the center. it's still inside you. :)

the best advice i could give you is that you take a giant leap toward
liberation when the need for approval is released. it's life changing-- try it, you'll like it!

perhaps your guide is giving you a chance to sort out your priorities. on your
own. that's what a guide would do that had your best interests at heart, imv.

what do you value more? your family's opinion or following your Heart?
"time for you to decide what it is you believe in, Dr. Jones! " :D

and i can almost guarantee that when you do, your guide will be back with a new game plan! :)


Thank you for your advice! Also for being honest. *hugs*

[deca]

http://www.publicsignal.com/signal/information/nsymp/67-symptoms.html

Symptoms: Mind Control/Electronic Harassment/Organized Stalking



Source: Nationalcaresociety.com

Symptoms: Mind Control/Electronic Harassment/Organized Stalking
Symptoms

* Death and disease threats via internet messages
* Reading and broadcasting private thoughts
* Frequent breakins and poisoning of food
* Frequent breakins at home and at work with clothing, furniture, business papers, computer files sabotaged, modified or stolen
* Frequent breakins and movement of items from their original places
* Controlled dreams
* Forced waking visions some sync'ed with body motion
* Exceptionally frequent blanking of recent memories, and truncation of new ideas
* Very unnatural inability to sleep, as if large amounts of caffeine have been consumed
* Sudden forced awakening at precisely the same time in the middle of the night, continuing for at least months, and right on a clock time such as 4am, zero minutes, zero seconds
* Sudden clumsiness, which can result in spills, spoilage of precise work, or injury
* Attacks of extreme fatigue, sometimes almost to the point of paralysis, when there is no reason for such attacks
* Frequent powerful itching without rash, and which may start as a small electric shock
* Artificial "bee stings", especially while trying to get to sleep
* Wildly racing heart without any cause
* Sudden overheating, without any cause
* Frequent flailing of arms and legs as you try to sleep
* Fake sounds such as alarm clock going off when it shouldn't, telephone ringing when there is no incoming call, knocking on the door but no one is there
* Voices, either very insulting, or telling you things that indicate you are under surveillance
* Vibration of body parts when trying to sleep
* High pitched tone in ears, which may change when switching electronic equipment on or off
* In some cases, statements by strangers indicating they know what you had for supper
* In some cases, statements by strangers indicating they can read your thoughts
* Artificial and powerful sexual stimulation
* Microwave oven and other electrical appliances going on and off "what appears" to be of their own accord
* Transparent eyelids
* Artificial tinnitus
* Forced movement of jaw and clacking of teeth
* Forced precision manipulation of hands
* Suddent violent itching inside eyelids
* Forced manipulation of airways, including externally controlled forced speech
* Wildly racing heart without cause
* Remotely induced violent "no-rash" itching often during delicate or messy work
* Forced nudging of arm during delicate or messy work causing spills or injury
* Intense general pain or hot needles pushed deep into flesh sensations
* Sudden over heating, all body pain, sleep prevention
* Forced drop-in-your-tracks sleep inducement
* Irresistible "go here, go there" commands
* Microwave burns, electric shocks
* By programming is isolated from maintaining employment or relationships with family members
* Constant mental rape, insults and humiliation
* Has no privacy even for his/her private thoughts
* Cannot plan secretly, hold trade secrets or intellectual property
* Is subject to vicious physical and psychological attacks
* Does not know how harassment is happening or by whom
* Does not know why harassment is happening
* May be accused of mentall illness, called delusional
* Cannot get away, no matter where he/she goes
* Bugged conversations
* Gossip, rumours, social and job connections broken
* Microwave voices, clicks, pops, brain zapping, direct harassment
* The mind/body symptoms of current day mind control include excruciating pain

Additional symptoms courtesy of www.md-spec.com

1st STAGE SIGNS:

* Both adults and children should attempt to carefully sense whether they feel a shock or see lights as they drift off to sleep. Due to the difficulty of remembering such occurrences while drifting off to sleep or while waking up it is recommended that a sheet of paper and pencil be held in the hand so a mark can be made when such instances occur.
* Accompanying activity of sabotage of business and/or personal life, strange people in area, strange reactions from people, items moved or missing in home.
* Unaccountable increase in heart rate
* Nervousness
* Irritability
* Aggravated reactions
* Compressed vertebrae upon waking
* Sensitivity to sound
* Depression
* Minor spasms and Charlie horses
* Inability to concentrate
* Loss of memory
* Night sweats
* Sensitivity of ear to the touch
* Upon waking finding that the muscles of the back are tingling as if electrified
* Ringing in one or both ears and or hearing tone bursts (Tinnitus)
* GERD (difficulty in swallowing)
* Arthritis
* Blurred eye sight
* Teeth snap together when drowsy
* Loss of sleep
* Nails become wavy
* Water and cellulite accumulations on the upper thigh and buttocks from cellular fluids displaced generally from the head and upper body especially in women, where those fluids find ready redistribution in those areas
* Changes in the tone of the internal voice
* Waking up in extreme pain neck and shoulder cramps that lasts for days, weeks at a time
* Spontaneous tears without emotional thinking
* Mild pressure in the head, a cloudy feeling
* Increased need to urinate during the night
* Feeling puffs of air on the face and back, due to demodulation of energy near the surface of the skin
* Sensation that blood is trickling into localized areas of the brain and other parts of the body. This feeling is akin to the impression that these areas were devoid of blood
* Unaccountable increased heart rate just before drifting off to sleep causing you to wake up

2nd STAGE SIGNS:

* Burning sensation on the skin
* Loss of hair
* Feeling of temporary heating of the head
* Rashes
* Narcoleptic reactions, sleepiness
* Sleep only after mere exhaustion of enforced fatigue
* Virtual insomnia up days at a time with absoutely no sleep at all
* Miscarriage
* Gaunt face (haggard and drawn)
* Facial wrinkles
* Loss of skin turgor
* Hair breaks from rapid microwave heat on hair causing increase fracturing of hair shafts from expansion of water via humidity.
* Loosing control unexplained anger and rage
* Heating of body (body feeling as if it is being cooked)
* Waking after sleep feeling as though you did not sleep
* Children's symptoms can manifest themselves as ADD and hyperactivity

3rd STAGE SIGNS:

* Loss of coordination
* Accidents from sleeplessness
* Damage to eyesight
* Atrophy of the muscles
* Heart valve damage
* Loss of weight and/or weight gain
* Nausea
* Sensitivity to sound
* Decreased dexterity
* Seizure
* Choking
* Vivid dreams
* Lost time (Alzheimer type symptoms)
* Mood swings
* Apathy
* Decrease in mental activity
* Limbs jerk typically as you are trying to sleep
* Weakness
* Lethargy or hyperactivity
* Forgetfulness
* Constipation

4th STAGE SIGNS:

* Heart attacks
* Stroke
* Syndromes
* Disease
* Insanity
* Death

[tanelorn]

I have had demons attack me in my sleep and appear in my dreams. It is along story and I am not supposed to talk about it anyway...So I will try to keep it minimal. It was twice that they tried to kill me. And my friends and I are being stalked like crazy by them. Long tory like I said. But basically we are special children. Most have powers and abilities and can shift. I am an empath with some powers. I can do some weather (it depends on my mood) , I have some electrical powers too, sometimes when I walk by appliances when I am extremely emotional they usually turn off or burn out. And I have some healing too. I have healed two of my friends who were ill and injured. I am also a practicing witch. I have had countless paranormal experiences with vampires,demons,ghosts,witches,fairies, amd I have seen a unicorn before. I decided to join this forum when I found out about the reptilians. It shocked me that there was so much deception and secrecy in the world. I am looking for answers and trying to discover my purpose, who I am. Because I am not sure what I am....I am an indigo, though. But I know I am something else. I have heard I am one of the seven daughters of the Titan, Atlas and I am learning more about my spiritual father. My family has no idea about any of this...They would not understand this. My life is a secret to many. Many know about me that I do not know about myself yet and I am on the quest to fullfil my world saving mission. I promised my guardian angel that I would stand by him and and make him proud because when he was alive he was alone. I am alone now for awhile because my angel and I are on trial. He will be back hopefully soon...*sigh* I am truly alone,now.

I may not be able to relate to your experiences but I can assure you of my listening ear.

[tru3]

Thank you for your advice! Also for being honest. *hugs*

your welcome.

I barely recognized it when I logged on...I never knew it would cause arguments.

there are "movable feasts" of conflict that roll through this forum. took me quite a while not to take it personal. so please you don't, has nothing to do with you. :)

[deca]

Science, Not Superstition:

The Nature of Ghosts

A Review of the Evidence



by Paul Lee
http://www.paullee.com/ghosts/sns_new.html


Dr.Persinger was interviewed on a BBC Horizon documentary, which covered the connection between the brain and religion - Neurothology. Dr.Persinger noted that the application of weak magnetic fields to the Temporal Lobes of the brain resulted in similar experiences to those who encounter religious or paranormal occurrences. For instance, in one subject, applying a field to the right lobe resulted in the person "sensing a presence". Dr.Persinger thinks that nearly, if not all cases of the paranormal could be explained by such magnetic fields, which could occur from overhead pylons or underground fault lines. To back this assertion up, the BBC showed a reconstruction of a case that Dr.Persinger had investigated. In this case, a young girl was complaining of nightly visitations by an entity. The cause of the disturbances was traced to the EM field of a clock radio, sitting on a table adjacent to the girl's bed. When the clock was removed, the girl reported no further "bedroom invaders".

[deca]

What in the hell are you talking about? Show me WHERE in this entire thread did I mentioned vampires? It's obvious to me that you are trying your best to win your argument by resorting to a sleazy method in order to prove your scientific dogma. Just to keep your distorted viewpoint for one more day. It's crumbling as we speak. You have no clue what you are talking about and at the same time you are jumping from one topic to another. How did we get from electronic harassment and mind control to vampires? In fact I have noticed that you are twisted everything I presented to you in order to fit your own defensive argument and then you have the guts to tell me that I am cherry picking. YOU ARE! I presented you with quotes from the very scientific minds that you give so much credence to. I wanted to show you that even the scientific minds are becoming aware of the invisible. That conscious existence is not merely the function of the brain. So when I show you UFOs you say it's some sort of advanced secret aircraft, ignoring that fact that this was filmed the the military itself who had no clue what this UFOs where. Do you think if this were man made aircraft they would need an infrared camera to capture them? Ignoring the fact that there were 11 of them. Do you understand 11? No because you do not wish to see. Your mind set is SET. You believe that everything can be explained by science even things that science cannot prove at this moment and are unknown you still claim they have scientific explanation. So it is obvious to me that you have closed your mind and only keep a tiny hole just to see one ASPECT of reality.

er here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059479052&postcount=30
Not in her case! This is OBVIOUS! She is being harassed by demonic energy. Which also includes alien creatures, elementals like vampires etc ... I think it's actually more of a spiritual matter rather than a medical problem. But how do you help someone who is so immersed in negativity. I am sure her family and friends suffer too. This is a serious matter that must be dealt with immediately before someone is going to pay the consequences.

[deca]

beautifulfallenvampire are you a creative person?

Dr. Michael Persinger 1994
Dr. Michael Persinger 1994 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lpyinT-Usc

[forrest22]

hiiiiiii beautifulfallenvampire if you were born in the 1980s and are a loner chances are your are an indigo adult

also you may be a pan ( half human half nirvana alien)

take a look at this site

http://freeyourbrain.net/alien.htm#Part%2012

[stanislav]

you sleep for 8 hours do you dream for 8 hours?????

these people may of flat lined but when they were consious and recalled what happend they were not how do they know what they experienced was during there flat line peroid not before or after?



People do not dream for 8 hours neither people sleep for 8 hours. Dream and sleep patterns may very depending on circumstances.

Exactly! This is precisely what truth seekers not deluded materialistic fundamentalists like yourself have been trying to uncover. How can someone who is brain dead is able to recall the conversation between doctors and nurses in the operating room or people down the hall? In some cases even people under local anesthetic were able to naturally float out of their physical body only to prove later on (in details) what they saw four floors down the hall. Consciousness is independent of your brain but consciousness is also connected to your physical body, not only to your brain. There is constant transmission of information between the physical instrument (your physical body) and your consciousness.

[stanislav]

Science, Not Superstition:



What you are trying to prove here is not science. It's bogus attempt to dismiss the invisible and intangible. You are not seeking the truth, you simply seek to FULFILL THE EMPTINESS IN YOUR VERY SOUL. You become what you believe and your own conviction is exactly that! I have noticed that even in your response to me (or other posters) you are unable to express yourself like you would expect an average human being to. Is it due to your lack of language skills? I doubt that. It's your density. In your search to prove materialistic approach you inevitably serve all connection to your source of all creation and knowing. You see yourself in a very limited and materialistic way. If majority of people living in this world had your mind set humanity would be resembling that of an ant colony. Working diligently and analytically without meaning, workout purpose . Any individual who strives towards materialism eventually will be deprived of all emotions. Very much like the Grey entities being described seen in abduction phenomena. analytical but without emotions or any limited expression of emotions. Eventually materialism will see no use of the wide range of emotions the humans posses and will get rid of them. Through genetic modification and evolution. Your exorbitance leads to stagnation.

[stanislav]

Dr.Persinger had investigated. In this case, a young girl was complaining of nightly visitations by an entity. The cause of the disturbances was traced to the EM field of a clock radio, sitting on a table adjacent to the girl's bed. When the clock was removed, the girl reported no further "bedroom invaders".

Once again your ignorance has no limit (and that of Persinger's). We are bombard by inexplicit sources of electromagnetic fields everyday, every hour, every minute and every second. Your cellphone, your digital watch, clock, microwave ovens, computers,TVs, satellites, cellphone towers etc ... All of them emit EM field. Some have much greater EM field than your digital clock. Like your CELLPHONE! Then why do we not have mass hallucinations? Why is it that when people have encounters with SPECIFIC entities they do not encounter pink elephants? You and people of your mindset do not have the ability to think outside the box. Because of it you have a minute range of understanding and are unable to see this reality from a wide range of perspectives. Thus you see it only from your limited and obscured vantage point.

[deca]

Once again your ignorance has no limit (and that of Persinger's). We are bombard by inexplicit sources of electromagnetic fields everyday, every hour, every minute and every second. Your cellphone, your digital watch, clock, microwave ovens, computers,TVs, satellites, cellphone towers etc ... All of them emit EM field. Some have much greater EM field than your digital clock. Like your CELLPHONE! Then why do we not have mass hallucinations? Why is it that when people have encounters with SPECIFIC entities they do not encounter pink elephants? You and people of your mindset do not have the ability to think outside the box. Because of it you have a minute range of understanding and are unable to see this reality from a wide range of perspectives. Thus you see it only from your limited and obscured vantage point.

http://www.earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=2&subcatid=1
Dr. José Delgado at one of the country’s leading research institutions in controlling the behavior of humans and animals. Actual testing of certain systems proved “that movements, sensations, emotions, desires, ideas, and a variety of psychological phenomena may be induced, inhibited, or modified by electrical stimulation of specific areas of the brain.”2 By 1985, Dr. Delgado was able to create these effects using only a radio signal sent to the brain remotely, using energy concentrations of less than 1/50th of what the Earth naturally produces. This discovery implied that frequency, waveform and pulse rate (modulation) were the important factors rather than the amount of energy being used. In considering this it makes sense because the human body does not require high electromagnetic power concentration to regulate its normal functioning – the key was in finding the “tuning” mechanisms for locating the right “receiving station” in the brain.

[deca]

What you are trying to prove here is not science. It's bogus attempt to dismiss the invisible and intangible. You are not seeking the truth, you simply seek to FULFILL THE EMPTINESS IN YOUR VERY SOUL. You become what you believe and your own conviction is exactly that! I have noticed that even in your response to me (or other posters) you are unable to express yourself like you would expect an average human being to. Is it due to your lack of language skills? I doubt that. It's your density. In your search to prove materialistic approach you inevitably serve all connection to your source of all creation and knowing. You see yourself in a very limited and materialistic way. If majority of people living in this world had your mind set humanity would be resembling that of an ant colony. Working diligently and analytically without meaning, workout purpose . Any individual who strives towards materialism eventually will be deprived of all emotions. Very much like the Grey entities being described seen in abduction phenomena. analytical but without emotions or any limited expression of emotions. Eventually materialism will see no use of the wide range of emotions the humans posses and will get rid of them. Through genetic modification and evolution. Your exorbitance leads to stagnation.

you don`t know me just a precived idea you have of somebody that does not believe your Superstition mubo jumbo plus trying to descredit me and discorage others from looking at the well researched information I post ....sad really you have to use these tactics....

[deca]

People do not dream for 8 hours neither people sleep for 8 hours. Dream and sleep patterns may very depending on circumstances.

Exactly! This is precisely what truth seekers not deluded materialistic fundamentalists like yourself have been trying to uncover. How can someone who is brain dead is able to recall the conversation between doctors and nurses in the operating room or people down the hall? In some cases even people under local anesthetic were able to naturally float out of their physical body only to prove later on (in details) what they saw four floors down the hall. Consciousness is independent of your brain but consciousness is also connected to your physical body, not only to your brain. There is constant transmission of information between the physical instrument (your physical body) and your consciousness.

I totaly believe people have a 6th sense and in some cases have telepathic powers....people in extreme situation show amazing abilitys....

http://www.skeptiko.com/michael-persinger-discovers-telepathic-link/

theres a great podcast to listen too

Neuroscience Researcher and Laurentian University professor, Dr. Michael Persinger, demonstrates telepathy under laboratory conditions.

Claims of telepathy, ESP and other psi phenomena are a mainstay of popular culture but taboo in neuroscience research circles. Fortunately, Dr. Michael Persinger of Canada’s Laurentian University has never been afraid to venture where other researchers fear to go. In the 1980’s Persinger made headlines with his “God Helmet”, a device that stimulates temporal lobes with a weak magnetic field in order to produce religious states.Now, Persinger has discovered the same type of brain stimulation can create metal states conducive to human telepathy. “What we have found is that if you place two different people at a distance and put a circular magnetic field around both, and you make sure they are connected to the same computer so they get the same stimulation, then if you flash a light in one person’s eye the person in the other room receiving just the magnetic field will show changes in their brain as if they saw the flash of light. We think that’s tremendous because it may be the first macro demonstration of a quantum connection, or so-called quantum entanglement. If true, then there’s another way of potential communication that may have physical applications, for example, in space travel.”

[deca]

beautifulfallenvampire sounds like you are in tune with your self,the planet and the things around you and probably sensitive and creative....Think about it horse and other animals can sense natural disasters ,storms long before there are visible signs....they get agitated , fearful and bolt away from the danger area ...I am sure they don't go hmm feel strange...wait a minuet .storm coming form the south west must get away....they have this ability because they have like we evolved on this planet

http://www.earthpulse.net/entrainment.htm

The frequencies of naturally occurring electromagnetic signals, circulating in the electrically resonant cavity bounded by the Earth and the ionosphere, have governed or determined the 'evolution' or development of the frequencies of operation of the principal human brain-wave signals. In particular, the alpha rhythm is so placed that it can in no circumstances suffer an extensive interference from naturally occurring signals.

Hainsworth concluded that the frequencies of human brain-waves evolved in response to these signals. If his hypothesis is correct, conditions for evolutionary changes in human brain-wave patterns have now been established. Furthermore, variations in these patterns can produce mild to disastrous health and behavioural changes.

The nature of the applied stimulus makes it difficult to identify the responses directly, as they are most likely to occur in the form of stress-related conditions. They will therefore show up as drastic increases in mental disturbance, antisocial behaviour, psychosomatic conditions and neurological disturbances. Some electrical field phenomena have already been linked with abnormal cell growth and a decrease in immunocompetency.

what I saying if you are sensitive then you might be picking up unwanted interferences/disturbance from ether a natural or man made sources , through your belief and culture feel and sense this as a danger/unusual/unwanted/fear i.e demonic attack.

[stanislav]

http://www.earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=2&subcatid=1

WAKE UP!

Conscious Electromagnetic (CEMI) Field Theory

Johnjoe McFadden

Abstract

The conscious electromagnetic field theory (cemi field theory) is described which proposes that consciousness is a manifestation of the brain’s electromagnetic (em) field. The key feature of the brain’s em field is that it is capable of integrating vast quantities of information into a single physical system and it thereby accounts for the binding of consciousness. The cemi field theory is shown to be compatible with all the known facts about consciousness. Unlike quantum theories of consciousness, the cemi field theory does not require any special physical states in the brains; it is perfectly compatible with brain physiology. Nevertheless, recent work has shown that classical electromagnetic waves may be used to implement quantum algorithms; therefore the brain’s cemi field may be able to perform quantum computations (but without the requirement for quantum coherent states of matter).

[deca]

WAKE UP!

Conscious Electromagnetic (CEMI) Field Theory

Johnjoe McFadden

Abstract

The conscious electromagnetic field theory (cemi field theory) is described which proposes that consciousness is a manifestation of the brain’s electromagnetic (em) field. The key feature of the brain’s em field is that it is capable of integrating vast quantities of information into a single physical system and it thereby accounts for the binding of consciousness. The cemi field theory is shown to be compatible with all the known facts about consciousness. Unlike quantum theories of consciousness, the cemi field theory does not require any special physical states in the brains; it is perfectly compatible with brain physiology. Nevertheless, recent work has shown that classical electromagnetic waves may be used to implement quantum algorithms; therefore the brain’s cemi field may be able to perform quantum computations (but without the requirement for quantum coherent states of matter).

yea know you get it we have a biological quantum computer in our heads that can interact and be manipulated by EM fields outside our head

[stanislav]

you don`t know me just a precived idea you have of somebody that does not believe your Superstition mubo jumbo plus trying to descredit me and discorage others from looking at the well researched information I post ....sad really you have to use these tactics....

I don't have to know you personally. I can simply deduct it from you logic ... I am using the same tactics on you, the way you would use on others, in order to give you the taste of your own poison. Perhaps you may come slowly into realization that you can not stand against my ability to circumvent your lack of understanding about any subjects which deals with the invisible. You quote and so do I. It's useless because you already made up your mind about the unknown. I want you to understand that for every quote you make I can always find a contrast. You ignorance has no limit and so you will ignore everything I say to you and call it no sense because in order for you to accept it you must get rid of your limited perspective.

[deca]

I don't have to know you personally. I can simply deduct it from you logic ... I am using the same tactics on you, the way you would use on others, in order to give you the taste of your own poison. Perhaps you may come slowly into realization that you can not stand against my ability to circumvent your lack of understanding about any subjects which deals with the invisible. You quote and so do I. It's useless because you already made up your mind about the unknown. I want you to understand that for every quote you make I can always find a contrast. You ignorance has no limit and so you will ignore everything I say to you and call it no sense because in order for you to accept it you must get rid of your limited perspective.

and your agend and reason for doing this?

[stanislav]

beautifulfallenvampire sounds like you are in tune with your self

Do you even know what it means to be in tune with one self? You for example are not in tune with yourself but in tune with external sources. If you did not have to quote every scientist out there who proves your theory as to how and why the universe works you would then be able to open up an energetic portal that which will lead your mind within. In order to have all the answers of the universe one must become in tune with themselves not others. One must still their mind in order to connect with the universal mind, truth. One must not rely on logic and reason alone. Logic and reason alone will only lead you on a never ending journey within a maze of darkness. There is such thing as KNOWING. Knowing can only come from within not without. All external sources only seem to explain your physical reality because they are illusionary constructs. This reality is based on set of laws that have no meaning outside of the 3 dimensional bubble reality. They do not apply to the invisible roams thus at certain point of your physical evolution you will hit a capstone. KNOWING from within is beyond reason and logic.

[deca]

Do you even know what it means to be in tune with one self? You for example are not in tune with yourself but in tune with external sources. If you did not have to quote every scientist out there who proves your theory as to how and why the universe works you would then be able to open up an energetic portal that which will lead your mind within. In order to have all the answers of the universe one must become in tune with themselves not others. One must still their mind in order to connect with the universal mind, truth. One must not rely on logic and reason alone. Logic and reason alone will only lead you on a never ending journey within a maze of darkness. There is such thing as KNOWING. Knowing can only come from within not without. All external sources only seem to explain your physical reality because they are illusionary constructs. This reality is based on set of laws that have no meaning outside of the 3 dimensional bubble reality. They do not apply to the invisible roams thus at certain point of your physical evolution you will hit a capstone. KNOWING from within is beyond reason and logic.

why would you have to connect with the universal mind?? you are already a part of it.........you would have to connect to an artificial hive mind(or it will "connect" to you)
Beyond Human: The Cyborg Mind
Future of Google Glasses: The Cyborg Mind - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMNNtXdxSI

Beyond Human: The Invasion of the Inhuman
Beyond Human: The Invasion of the Inhuman - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW7Fy5rHLgk

if you ask me this whole new age idea about universal mind is Predictive Programming to acept some man made electronic artifical global hive mind future

Alan Watt - Predictive Programming
Alan Watt - Predictive Programming - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Q8M0u6CnE

[tru3]

there are "movable feasts" of conflict that roll through this forum. took me quite a while not to take it personal. so please you don't, has nothing to do with you. :)

bump...

[deca]

sounds more like electronic harassment and mind control psychological attack ....voice to skull technology (microwave hearing effect) phantom(remote) touch They attack your mental ability , and nervous system can stimulate just about any sensation feeling emotion plus lots more.....they general use odd voices as its illegal and often mimic demon/alien attacks also targets also claim of ganstalking....

there microwave hearing effect (voice/s in head) is psychological direction...bullshit to manipulate you, mess with your beliefs and make you sound crazy...i,e grandiose or Persecutory or both. also they will expand any belief you have about whats happening to you if it will make you sound delusional or made to manipulate you...i.e do some thing normal that you would not(watch out as they play mind games with you to force you to do pysical stuff but at the time of you doing this you will probadly beileve you have to or some other mind fuck(belief) running around your mind on why you have too, (save the world,past a test, join some group ect....)) .


http://areyoutargeted.com/

http://www.freedomfchs.com/

I would look at mind control techniques what ever it is or how it is doing it too you it will probably be using some of these methods

http://www.phinnweb.org/neuro/brainwash/

all I was going to say


bump

[deca]

people should check this out
they must be taken the piss with this one surly

DISEMBODIED, LOCATION-SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONAL AGENTS DELCA
http://www.itu.dk/research/delca/papers/troels/DELCA%20THESIS.pdf

There are no copyrights on the definition of ghosts, though the ghost phenomenon is widespread throughout western cultures and folklore. This thesis is about to unveil the digital resurrection of ghost-like entities, also known as DELCA-ghosts. The DELCA-ghosts are advanced auditory Artificial Intelligences which can evidently assist and entertain users in the real world. The ghosts will have the ability to speak and be spoken to. They will also have the ability to monitor people and know there whereabouts within limited indoor space.
The idea of an AI confronting and monitoring humans within a limited amount of space is well portrayed

[chrisis4ever]

Demons are attracted to people with higher concentrations of energy and power. You said you had abilities.... You must learn to hide your energy. There are many methods. I have also had night attacks. I have had beings talk to me in that weird dream space as they sucked all of my energy out of my body. I haven't been attacked in a while but I have trained my spirit enough to where I can resist (SOMETIMES). When you have elevated yourself to the point you are without the proper training you are like a bleeding person swimming in the ocean waiting for a shark. Demons can smell you a mile away.

[deca]

more like a couple of bots attacking you via a microwave hearing effect

who the F""k is ALICE
http://alicebot.blogspot.com/

The ALICE A.I. Foundation and Pandorabots have both launched new forums for the AIML community.
Need help with AIML free software or Pandorabots bot hosting service? Consult the active communities participating in the new Alicbot and Pandorabots forums!

We have released an upgrade to the AIML Superbot, a development kit that makes it easy for you to create a chat bot with its own unique and proprietary personality distinct from the ALICE bot.

The AIML Superbot uses the top 10,000 most activated patterns from the ALICE brain to create a blank template for a bot. By filling in the responses one by one, you can build up a unique personality of your own design.

If you do not want to write your own responses, the AIML Superbot also includes the original responses from the free ALICE bot. You can also mix and match and create a bot that blends your responses with ALICE's.

The Superbot 2.1 includes several refinements:

* Improved documentation
* Simplified basic personality profile patterns (AGE, NAME, GENDER...)
* Sample starter bot
* Pattern activation rank and frequency data
* Created using the latest version of ALICE Showcase Edition


ALICE Artificial Intelligence and Nicole. Virtual human.
ALICE Artificial Intelligence and Nicole. Virtual human. - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjDt7VDdMhY

Two Bots Talking: Fake Kirk and A.L.I.C.E.
Two Bots Talking: Fake Kirk and A.L.I.C.E. - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr7qVQ3UoSk

[christ4life]

I have had demons attack me in my sleep and appear in my dreams. It is along story and I am not supposed to talk about it anyway...So I will try to keep it minimal. It was twice that they tried to kill me. And my friends and I are being stalked like crazy by them. Long tory like I said. But basically we are special children. Most have powers and abilities and can shift. I am an empath with some powers. I can do some weather (it depends on my mood) , I have some electrical powers too, sometimes when I walk by appliances when I am extremely emotional they usually turn off or burn out. And I have some healing too. I have healed two of my friends who were ill and injured. I am also a practicing witch. I have had countless paranormal experiences with vampires,demons,ghosts,witches,fairies, amd I have seen a unicorn before. I decided to join this forum when I found out about the reptilians. It shocked me that there was so much deception and secrecy in the world. I am looking for answers and trying to discover my purpose, who I am. Because I am not sure what I am....I am an indigo, though. But I know I am something else. I have heard I am one of the seven daughters of the Titan, Atlas and I am learning more about my spiritual father. My family has no idea about any of this...They would not understand this. My life is a secret to many. Many know about me that I do not know about myself yet and I am on the quest to fullfil my world saving mission. I promised my guardian angel that I would stand by him and and make him proud because when he was alive he was alone. I am alone now for awhile because my angel and I are on trial. He will be back hopefully soon...*sigh* I am truly alone,now.

Until you realize the powers you have are from the demons attacking you then healing can not begin.

[deca]

this is one of the best radio shows I heard....a must for every TI

Dr Terry Robertson / Statement / Audio

......torture

"Radio Waves used as Weapons"

Guns and Butter / "Electromagnetic Frequency Research" with

Dr. Terry Robertson. - December 1, 2010 at 1:00pm

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/65723

http://www.gunsandbutter.org/docs/Statement_from_Dr_Terry_Robertson.pdf

Guns and Butter - "Electromagnetic Frequency Research" with Dr. Terry Robertson.

Dr. Robertson is a board certified anesthesiologist and Chairman of the Medical Committee for Freedom From Covert Harassment and Stalking (FFCHS). FFCHS is an advocacy and support group for targeted individuals. One of its goals is to educate the public about directed energy technologies that can interact with human organisms causing injury to organ systems and influence psychological behavior. A statement by Dr. Robertson on directed energy weapons is posted at www.gunsandbutter.org. More information at www.freedomfchs.com.

[deca]

part 2


http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/65894

Guns and Butter - "Targeted Individuals"

With Dr. Terry Robertson and Dr. John Hall. Dr. Robertson discusses the demographics of "who is targeted" with directed energy weapons. Dr. Hall talks about his personal experiences in San Antonio, Texas; the targeting of his close friend; criminal enterprises that are involved in targeting individuals; long-term experiments on non-consenting populations.

[beautifulfallenvampire]

Demons are attracted to people with higher concentrations of energy and power. You said you had abilities.... You must learn to hide your energy. There are many methods. I have also had night attacks. I have had beings talk to me in that weird dream space as they sucked all of my energy out of my body. I haven't been attacked in a while but I have trained my spirit enough to where I can resist (SOMETIMES). When you have elevated yourself to the point you are without the proper training you are like a bleeding person swimming in the ocean waiting for a shark. Demons can smell you a mile away.

Thank you for your advice and believing me. A lot haas happened since I last updated...

[beautifulfallenvampire]

your welcome.



there are "movable feasts" of conflict that roll through this forum. took me quite a while not to take it personal. so please you don't, has nothing to do with you. :)

Thank you! I have noticed that...;)

[beautifulfallenvampire]

I may not be able to relate to your experiences but I can assure you of my listening ear.

Thank you! :)

[beautifulfallenvampire]

hiiiiiii beautifulfallenvampire if you were born in the 1980s and are a loner chances are your are an indigo adult

also you may be a pan ( half human half nirvana alien)

take a look at this site

http://freeyourbrain.net/alien.htm#Part%2012

Oh! You mean like a starseed? I have discovered I am one of Pleiadian origins...I still have more to find out about my soul, though...

[beautifulfallenvampire]

beautifulfallenvampire are you a creative person?

Dr. Michael Persinger 1994
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lpyinT-Usc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lpyinT-Usc

Oh yes!!:) I plan on becoming a novelist. How did you figure it out?

[pezza19]

Oh! You mean like a starseed? I have discovered I am one of Pleiadian origins...I still have more to find out about my soul, though...

I believe you, and I think ridicule comes from's people misunderstanding. If someone is on a deeper level, then when they speak, it can sound like trash to people who can't relate, but I know what you are talking about.

I've spoken to negative beings, and they have also tried to pull me out of my body at night in my sleep. I think that once you start opening your mind, you can start to become susceptable to other beings which were not visable before.


Another thing I'd like to say is that, even though you may sound like an attention seeker or fake, you obviously came here for a reason, and at the end of the day we are only humans and express our experiences in our own way, just because you failed to connect with people... I wouldn't let it worry you... You will always find someone who can relate to you share experience help you along.

The main thing for me in times of crisis it to realise that you are an infinite being with free will. You have the ability to give love and illuminate the darkness with you own soul.

Peace x

[deca]

The God Helmet - from "Horizons"
The God Helmet - from "Horizons" - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujM1oRsFi3c&feature=player_embedded

the part about the girl and the alarm clock and her belief of being visited by demons in her sleep is very interesting


simple move EMF source away from your sleeping area.


look work it out we are sensitive to earth's magnetic field or other man made sources that resemble them.....animals are two ..but they get spooked and runaway as it normal means if there's a disturbance in the magnetic field which could mean some type of geo or solar or other activity is going on that could be some type of natural disaster going to occur in the area ...they don`t sit there and try to explain it by some type of vision or entity like us dumb humans do or by some passed down mythology and superstition .


again people are Confusing Cause and Effect , your trying to explain the "effect" as the cause of the effect , where as there could be many sources that contribute/induce you to have a paranormal experience in the first place

[nergal]

The magical words "By the power of his blood" will send any demon running miles away.

It refers to the spilt blood of Jesus Christ who dies on the cross for us at calvary and got the victory for us.

Turn to the Lord and pray, I would advise staying away from withccraft too as you will be using spirits who will without a doubt use you, you will aggrevate the situation.

"By the power of his blood"

I feast on the blood of your fallen lord.

[jconnar]

I feast on the blood of your fallen lord.

real mature bradley

[nergal]

I will fight relentlessly
I stand tall defiantly
I see what you cannot see
I invoke the beast in me

I fear not the agony
I breathe hope inside of thee
I will kill the enemy
I fulfill my destiny

[danster82]

Your trial is to overcome self concern.

[octopusrex]

Controling your angels and demons is an inner trip.
My dad likes to say: "skin in".

[beautifulfallenvampire]

I believe you, and I think ridicule comes from's people misunderstanding. If someone is on a deeper level, then when they speak, it can sound like trash to people who can't relate, but I know what you are talking about.

I've spoken to negative beings, and they have also tried to pull me out of my body at night in my sleep. I think that once you start opening your mind, you can start to become susceptable to other beings which were not visable before.


Another thing I'd like to say is that, even though you may sound like an attention seeker or fake, you obviously came here for a reason, and at the end of the day we are only humans and express our experiences in our own way, just because you failed to connect with people... I wouldn't let it worry you... You will always find someone who can relate to you share experience help you along.

The main thing for me in times of crisis it to realise that you are an infinite being with free will. You have the ability to give love and illuminate the darkness with you own soul.



Peace x


Thank you...I really do appreciate it you know. I hae learned much about myself ever since I last posted but I still think there is more to be discovered...Again I apologize for sounding that way to you and others but it was not my intention. I am actually extremely shy and do not like talking about myself, especialy to strangers and sometimes I wonder if I will ever be able to be honest about myself. Thanks for understanding!

[beautifulfallenvampire]

real mature bradley

:D

[beautifulfallenvampire]

I will fight relentlessly
I stand tall defiantly
I see what you cannot see
I invoke the beast in me

I fear not the agony
I breathe hope inside of thee
I will kill the enemy
I fulfill my destiny

That was beautiful...Thank you!

[beautifulfallenvampire]

Hi!!

58 POSSIBLE SIGNS OF ALIEN (fallen angel) ABDUCTION

http://ufozone.ning.com/forum/topics/58-possible-signs-of-alien

link (http://ufozone.ning.com/forum/topics/58-possible-signs-of-alien)

:cool:
___________________________


OH MY GODS! I have most of these symptoms! Including the blood on the pillow thing and I tried to take pictures of it but only one remains...The rest mysteriously disappeared!

[kitabatake]

I believe you, and I think ridicule comes from's people misunderstanding. If someone is on a deeper level, then when they speak, it can sound like trash to people who can't relate, but I know what you are talking about.

I've spoken to negative beings, and they have also tried to pull me out of my body at night in my sleep. I think that once you start opening your mind, you can start to become susceptable to other beings which were not visable before.


Another thing I'd like to say is that, even though you may sound like an attention seeker or fake, you obviously came here for a reason, and at the end of the day we are only humans and express our experiences in our own way, just because you failed to connect with people... I wouldn't let it worry you... You will always find someone who can relate to you share experience help you along.

The main thing for me in times of crisis it to realise that you are an infinite being with free will. You have the ability to give love and illuminate the darkness with you own soul.

Peace x




What exactly is a starseed? I have heard things about them but all I ever find is New Age bullshit. I believe that they exist but I am not sure what to believe about them.

[christ4life]

What exactly is a starseed? I have heard things about them but all I ever find is New Age bullshit. I believe that they exist but I am not sure what to believe about them.

A starseed is a hybrid half human, and half angelic being. Giants, nephilim, and now alien abduction hybrid babies same thing.

[christ4life]

Stuff like that never worked for me. The only thing that worked was staying
within love and being empowered in your faith in yourself and your own Light.
Once I reached that stage, I became able to send healing to my attackers,
which also disempowered their ability to harm me.

Sometimes they were even grateful to me for having healed their wounds, even
though I also temporarily took away their dark powers. Calling for help or saying
any religious words, has never worked for me, and believe me I tried. The attacks
started five or six years ago, and are still going on, except now I am invulnerable
to being harmed by them.

That is because of lack of faith you can go ahead, and do what you are doing but they will keep coming back. These beings even in a lower state still have the abilities God gave them they just use it for evil. They know your weak points, and will use it against you.

[kitabatake]

A starseed is a hybrid half human, and half angelic being. Giants, nephilim, and now alien abduction hybrid babies same thing.


Interesting. Why are they here? Are all of them here to help? Or are some out to harm?

[vizion]

I have had demons attack me in my sleep and appear in my dreams. It is along story and I am not supposed to talk about it anyway...So I will try to keep it minimal. It was twice that they tried to kill me. And my friends and I are being stalked like crazy by them. Long tory like I said. But basically we are special children. Most have powers and abilities and can shift. I am an empath with some powers. I can do some weather (it depends on my mood) , I have some electrical powers too, sometimes when I walk by appliances when I am extremely emotional they usually turn off or burn out. And I have some healing too. I have healed two of my friends who were ill and injured. I am also a practicing witch. I have had countless paranormal experiences with vampires,demons,ghosts,witches,fairies, amd I have seen a unicorn before. I decided to join this forum when I found out about the reptilians. It shocked me that there was so much deception and secrecy in the world. I am looking for answers and trying to discover my purpose, who I am. Because I am not sure what I am....I am an indigo, though. But I know I am something else. I have heard I am one of the seven daughters of the Titan, Atlas and I am learning more about my spiritual father. My family has no idea about any of this...They would not understand this. My life is a secret to many. Many know about me that I do not know about myself yet and I am on the quest to fullfil my world saving mission. I promised my guardian angel that I would stand by him and and make him proud because when he was alive he was alone. I am alone now for awhile because my angel and I are on trial. He will be back hopefully soon...*sigh* I am truly alone,now.

Call on the name of Jesus Christ - the King of Kings and Lord of Lords - to protect you. All authority in heaven and earth belongs to Him.

[jesusistruth]

:D

Are you trying to say that someone would come in here and make something up? Preposterous!

L.A.R.P. Live Avatar Role Playing - YouTube

[jesusistruth]

That was beautiful...Thank you!

Whoa...

What just came to my mind, is that dreaming one's own dreams is cold. It is better to trust in God, who I cannot really deny is Jesus Christ.

One is supposed to die for one's own vanity, and live for the Holy Spirit. One way it is done, according to the Orthodox tradition, is to repeatedly pray, "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me".

Basically, when it comes to Jesus Christ, you have to give up everything that is your own, to recieve that which is his (the Holy Spirit), and thus you recieve the providence of God.

[cue_ball]

That is because of lack of faith you can go ahead, and do what you are doing but they will keep coming back. These beings even in a lower state still have the abilities God gave them they just use it for evil. They know your weak points, and will use it against you.

+1 :)

[steeeeeeeve]

I was interested up to "I saw a unicorn..."

Did I miss a new age memo? Are we suupposed to believe that unicorns have a reality basis??? Someone help me on this one.

And the living the twilight movie....I dunno man, I dunno. Seems like you are bored and created a fantasy world for yourself, one where you feel important.

No doubt you have had strange phenomena occur because most do, most don't remember or ponder them, but people like icke readers do, but these things can be taken to ridiculous extremes that are fueled by imaginations and desires of grandeur.

Anyway, here's to dealing with you. Cheers.

[merla]

Got to be honest with you, this all sounds like a mix between bad twilight fanfic and bipolar disorder. I'm going to be brutal here because I don't get a feeling of truth from you but I do recognise something about you, I think you're either attention seeking or looking for confomation of your own delusions.

Who is this mysterious 'they'? Seems there are two 'theys' for you, the 'they' that tell you things and the 'they' that want to kill you (the examples of which are actually perfectly ordinary acoincides). IF your family don't believe you then where did this 'mentor' come from?


Angels aren't dead people, that's ghosts. Angels are a spiritual entity separate from humans, anyone that thinks different has been watching too much tv/hollywood movies and not reading enough of the actual sources for angels IE the bible or the torah or the koran etc. If this thing really exists and told you that it used to be a person then it is LYING. Get rid of it as quickly as possible.


Sp let me get this straight, you think you're an Indigo (take a number, join the cue, there are a lot of poeple that fit the profile, me included, born in the 80s check, clever, check, creative, check, sensitive, check, messages in dreams, check, trouble fitting in, check!), a healer, going to save the world, you have a guardian angel/ghost who is 'beautiful' and just happens to be a dead actor (anyone we'd know?) and has been taken away by unfair circumstances and is now on 'trial' but it's really all about you, being persued by terrible dark forces, might be one of seven daughters of an ancient Greek deity or the largest moon of Saturn (you never clarified which Titan you were talking about) but are also a starseed AND a pleadian, gosh, that's a lot of special to pack into one person isn't it? Oh wait, then there's all your friends that are super magical girls too but they have boyfriends (not lovers, good grief) and that makes you get in a huff. I'm tempted to say stop reading twilight, wathing anime, Buffy and Supernatural and reading conspiracy theories. Get a hobby that takes you out of yourself and the house and will mix you with 'normal' people, you'll feel a lot better and more connected to the world. Join a theatre group, have some fun, you're only young once.

Biggest clue this isn't genuine? The way you just throw in a whole bunch of supernatural things together, like a pervious poser pointed out. Oh and I'd be careful talking smack about witches on this forum. Listing them alongside vampires and demons will not endear you to the witchy or rather new age or pagan community that post on here. I'm kind of surprised you didn't way you were an amzingly powerful Wiccan actually, it usually goes hand in hand with this kind of thing.

You and your friends might be different, might have strange experiences but you aren't speshul magic snowflakes with a grand destiny beyond everyone else, look around the forum, there are plenty of people with similar experiences to you, just join in and be yourself. You are special because you are you, that's enough, you don't need to be a magical alien princess with an angel boyfriend, celebrate the real you and you'll be a lot happier.


I think you're a lot younger than 18, I think your maybe 15/16 and that's a difficult time for anyone, I may be wrong it's just the impression I get. You are creative and clearly need attention on some level (we all do, you're just not getting in it a positive place IRL), kudos for some very creative writing, you might want to work on not throwing everything into one character though, it turns them into a Mary Sue and very few people like those.


I can't help thinking you've let your imagination run away with you. I'm saying all this because I'm an older you, minus all the delusions of granduer. Maybe we are both 'Indigos' whatever that means but that doesn't define us, you don't need to be Sailor Moon, just be you. Whatever your purpose is, it will find you, that's true for everyone. Best advise I can give you? Bin off anyone that feeds into this you are the chosen one thing, they are not good for you, they are feeding something very negative that might actually be the result of a medical condition IE bipolar or a spiritual deception and that doesn't make them your friends, the exact opposite in fact. BTW I know someone with bipolar and some of the things you said are perfectly interchangable with what he does.

Plus this kind of thing can go horribly wrong, watch Heavenly Creatures by Peter Jackson. If ever I had the potential to go off on one like you(which honestly I think I may have), that film cured me off it well before it happened, I saw it when I was about 15 I think.


And remember YOU ARE SPECIAL AND WORTHWHILE without all this.

[pinkiepie]

seriously op, thats some serious bragging...goth wiccan girls usually act like this.
Healing powers and demons are real.....but wow thats some too far stuff.
People who have such powers dont usually go all bragging about it.

[batou]

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