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strider
24-11-2007, 03:13 PM
The ingredient information in this article came straight from the various fast food restaurants’ web sites.


McDonald’s

The egg’s reputation is recovering, but scrambled eggs as a part of McDonald’s breakfast include much more than egg. Their pasteurized whole eggs have sodium acid pyrophosphate, citric acid, and monosodium phosphate (all added to preserve color), and nisin, a preservative. To top it off, the eggs are prepared with liquid margarine: liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated cottonseed and soybean oils (trans fats), salt, hydrogenated cottonseed oil (trans fat), soy lecithin, mono- and diglycerides, sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, citric acid, vitamin A palmitate, and beta carotene (color). Though not all bad, these added chemicals may be the reason why homemade scrambled eggs taste so much better than McDonald’s.

For coffee drinkers, it would seem fairly safe to just grab a quick cup of coffee at McDonald's on the way to work. But many health conscious people would object to it also including this list of ingredients: sodium phosphate, sodium polyphosphate, Di-Acetyl Tartrate Ester of Monoglyceride, sodium stearoyl lactylate, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, sodium hexametaphosphate, sodium citrate, and carrageenan. Do health nuts still drink coffee?

Salads can usually be counted on to be a “what you see is what you get” item. But McDonald’s adds some interesting ingredients. The salads with grilled chicken also have liquid margarine.

Several salads have either cilantro lime glaze, or orange glaze added. Along with many of McDonald’s sauces, both the cilantro lime glaze and the orange glaze contain propylene glycol alginate. While propylene glycol is considered "GRAS" for human consumption, it is not legal for use in cat food because the safety hasn't been proven yet [10]. Propylene glycol is also used "As the killing and preserving agent in pitfall traps, usually used to capture ground beetles" [10].

The chili lime tortilla strips that are included in the southwest salads have several ingredients used to hide MSG. They also contain two ingredients that advertise the presence of MSG: disodium inosinate, and disodium guanylate.

The chicken has sodium phosphates (of an unspecified variety). It could be trisodium phosphate (a cleanser), monosodium phosphate (a laxative), or disodium hydrogen phosphate [11]. Why would McDonald’s add sodium phosphates (a foaming agent), and dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent in their crispy chicken breast fillets? It isn’t dishwasher detergent.

Burger King

It’s interesting to note that the BK Veggie Burger has six ingredients commonly used to hide free glutamate (MSG): calcium caseinate, hydrolyzed corn, yeast extract, soy protein isolate, spices, and natural flavors. At the end of the ingredients list, it states This is NOT a vegan product. The patty is cooked in the microwave. Was that a warning statement?

Burger King has three salads to choose from. The TENDERCRISP Garden Salad, the TENDERGRILL Garden Salad, and the Side Garden Salad.

A salad may be a little boring without a dressing like Ken’s Fat Free Ranch Dressing which includes titanium dioxide (an artificial color, or sunscreen, depending on use), preservatives, and the ingredient seemingly mandatory in all ranch dressings: monosodium glutamate.

Once again, as is typical with the fast food industry, they took a simple thing like chicken, and added a long list of ingredients.

TENDERGRILL® CHICKEN BREAST FILET
Chicken Breast with Rib Meat, Water, Seasoning (Maltodextrin, Salt, Sugar, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Garlic Powder, Spices, Natural Flavors, Onion Powder, Modified Corn Starch, Chicken Fat, Chicken Powder, Chicken Broth, Disodium Guanylate and Disodium Inosinate, Citric Acid, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Dehydrated Garlic, and Artificial Flavors.), Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Salt, Sodium Phosphates. Glazed with: Water, Seasoning [Maltodextrin, Salt, Sugar, Methylcellulose, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Partially Hydrogenated Sunflower Oil, Modified Potato Starch, Fructose, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Dehydrated Garlic, Spices, Modified Corn Starch, Xanthan Gum, Natural Flavors, Disodium Guanylate and Disodium Inosinate, Chicken Fat, Carmel Color, Grill Flavor (from Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oil), Chicken Powder, Chicken Broth, Turmeric, Smoke Flavor, Annatto Extract, and Artificial Flavors], Soybean Oil. [12]

Taco Bell

Taco Bell’s website didn’t have much emphasis on health. Under the nutrition guide, at the bottom was a link to Keep it Balanced, a token nod to health. It had no serious information on how to really eat healthy. They recommend foods like pizza and tacos (no surprise) because they may include ingredients from several food groups at once. Including several food groups does not necessarily mean it’s a healthy food.

The seasoned beef, carne asada steak, spicy shredded chicken, and even the rice all include autolyzed yeast extract (hidden MSG). Disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate are flavor enhancers used in synergy with MSG [7,8]. Therefore, menu items with disodium inosinate and/or disodium guanylate also contain MSG. This includes the avocado ranch dressing, southwest chicken, citrus salsa, creamy jalapeno sauce, creamy lime sauce, lime seasoned red strips, pepper jack sauce, and seasoned rice.

According to Wikipedia, dimethylpolysiloxane is optically clear, and is generally considered to be inert, non-toxic, and non-flammable. It is used in silicone caulk, adhesives, and as an anti-foaming agent [6]. Appetizingly enough, it’s also included in Taco Bell’s rice.

Wendy’s

At Wendy’s, there are several tempting salads. The mandarin chicken salad seems healthy at first glance. It has diced chicken, mandarin oranges, almonds, crispy noodles, your choice of dressings, and five different varieties of lettuce. Then reality takes a bite when you check the ingredients list. The almonds are roasted and salted. The crispy noodles are not whole grain. The mandarin orange segments are not freshly peeled oranges; most likely canned. The diced chicken has added autolyzed yeast extract (MSG), disodium inosinate, disodium guanylate, sodium phosphates (soap?), salt, more salt, sugar, modified cornstarch (sic)[1], and the universal umbrella ingredient list: spices, natural flavors, and artificial flavors.

In the ingredients lists for the salad dressings, one surprise was titanium dioxide in the Low Fat Honey Mustard Dressing and the Reduced Fat Creamy Ranch Dressing. It’s a very versatile chemical. It can be used to manufacture paint, sunscreen, semiconductors, and food coloring [2].

Wendy’s Southwest Taco Salad is a salad with Wendy’s chili. Once again, the chili has hidden MSG: autolyzed yeast extract, spices, artificial flavors, natural flavorings, disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate (MSG give-aways). It’s puzzling to try to understand why their chili would need to include an anti-caking agent such as silicon dioxide (also known as sand, or glass powder).

See if you can spot the sunscreen, MSG, and soap in this Wendy’s ingredient:

Seasoned Tortilla Strips
Whole Corn, Vegetable Oil (contains one or more of the following: corn, soybean or sunflower oil), Salt, Buttermilk Solids, Spices, Tomato, Sweet Cream, Dextrose, Onion, Sugar, Cheddar Cheese (cultured milk, salt, enzymes), Corn Starch, Modified Corn Starch, Maltodextrin, Nonfat Dry Milk, Garlic, Torula Yeast, Citric Acid, Autolyzed Yeast, Natural and Artificial Flavor, Artificial Colors (including extractives of paprika, turmeric and annatto, titanium dioxide, red 40, yellow 5, blue 1), Disodium Phosphate, Lactic Acid, Soy Lecithin. CONTAINS: MILK.

Apparently, taste really is all that matters at Wendy’s.

Subway

If a sandwich is advertised as healthy, one would expect that the bread would be whole grain. Not so with Subway’s wheat bread. While it does have some whole wheat flour, it’s the third ingredient, listed just before high fructose corn syrup [4]. None of Subway’s breads are whole grain. Ammonium sulfate (a fertilizer) is also added. Unfinished sandwiches may be composted. The bread also contains azodicarbonamide. From Wikipedia,

Use of azodicarbonamide as a food additive is banned in Australia. In the UK, the Health and Safety Executive has identified azodicarbonamide as a respiratory sensitiser (a possible cause of asthma) and determined that products should be labeled with May cause sensitisation by inhalation [5].

Most of the meats at Subway contain MSG and/or sodium nitrite.

KFC

The chicken, the gravy, and even the rice all have monosodium glutamate added. Not surprisingly, the chicken in the salads also has MSG. For a healthy menu item, the House Side Salad without dressing has nothing more than iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, and tomatoes.

KFC claims 0g trans fat per serving for all their fried chicken. But The Extra Crispy Chicken, Colonel’s Crispy Strips, HBBQ Wings, Boneless HBBQ Wings, Fiery Buffalo Wings, and more have partially hydrogenated soybean oil listed in the ingredients. So if the trans fat content is below 0.5g per serving, they can round down to zero and claim zero grams per serving.

In Closing

The salad a la carte may be the only healthy thing to eat at a fast food place. The side salads offered at the fast food places are hardly a meal, and hardly what one would consider a real salad.

Regarding MSG, it is helpful to remember this statement from Wikipedia when reading food labels.
Under current FDA regulations, when MSG is added to a food, it must be identified as monosodium glutamate in the label's ingredient list. If however MSG is part of a spice mix that is purchased by another company, the manufacturer does not have to list the ingredients of that spice mix and may use the words flavorings or spices. Even food that uses the no msg label may therefore have MSG that is added from a spice mix from another company under current FDA regulations.[9]

As with most meat products in fast food restaurants, consider any meat, including on salads, to include MSG, chemical preservatives, and trans fats. Even seemingly simple items like rice can have ingredients like anti-foaming agents.

Resouces:

http://www.wendys.com/food/Nutrition.jsp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fats

http://subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Nutrition/frmUSIngredients.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azodicarbonamide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylpolysiloxane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_guanylate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_phosphates

http://www.bk.com/#menu=3,-1,-1

About the author

John Andrews is an electrical engineer currently living in Utah. He earned his bachelor's degree in electrical engineering in 2001 at the University of Utah. John has adopted a whole foods lifestyle rich in raw fruits and vegetables. This lifestyle change has produced a noticeable improvement in physical health, appearance, and mental clarity. He savors knowledge and is eager to teach others how to be healthy.

Source: http://www.newstarget.com/022194.html

gold
24-11-2007, 07:14 PM
[[/SIZE]The ingredient information in this article came straight from the various fast food restaurants’ web sites.


McDonald’s

The egg’s reputation is recovering, but scrambled eggs as a part of McDonald’s breakfast include much more than egg. Their pasteurized whole eggs have sodium acid pyrophosphate, citric acid, and monosodium phosphate (all added to preserve color), and nisin, a preservative. To top it off, the eggs are prepared with liquid margarine: liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated cottonseed and soybean oils (trans fats), salt, hydrogenated cottonseed oil (trans fat), soy lecithin, mono- and diglycerides, sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, citric acid, vitamin A palmitate, and beta carotene (color). Though not all bad, these added chemicals may be the reason why homemade scrambled eggs

taste so much better than McDonald’s.



NO:eek:

For coffee drinkers, it would seem fairly safe to just grab a quick cup of coffee at McDonald's on the way to work. But many health conscious people would object to it also including this list of ingredients: sodium phosphate, sodium polyphosphate, Di-Acetyl Tartrate Ester of Monoglyceride, sodium stearoyl lactylate, tetra sodium pyrophosphate, sodium hexametaphosphate, sodium citrate, and carrageenan. Do health nuts still drink coffee?

Salads can usually be counted on to be a “what you see is what you get” item. But McDonald’s adds some interesting ingredients. The salads with grilled chicken also have liquid margarine.

Several salads have either cilantro lime glaze, or orange glaze added. Along with many of McDonald’s sauces, both the cilantro lime glaze and the orange glaze contain propylene glycol alginate. While propylene glycol is considered "GRAS" for human consumption, it is not legal for use in cat food because the safety hasn't been proven yet [10]. Propylene glycol is also used "As the killing and preserving agent in pitfall traps, usually used to capture ground beetles" [10].

The chili lime tortilla strips that are included in the southwest salads have several ingredients used to hide MSG. They also contain two ingredients that advertise the presence of MSG: disodium inosinate, and disodium guanylate.

The chicken has sodium phosphates (of an unspecified variety). It could be trisodium phosphate (a cleanser), monosodium phosphate (a laxative), or disodium hydrogen phosphate [11]. Why would McDonald’s add sodium phosphates (a foaming agent), and dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent in their crispy chicken breast fillets? It isn’t dishwasher detergent.

Burger King

It’s interesting to note that the BK Veggie Burger has six ingredients commonly used to hide free glutamate (MSG): calcium caseinate, hydrolyzed corn, yeast extract, soy protein isolate, spices, and natural flavors. At the end of the ingredients list, it states This is NOT a vegan product. The patty is cooked in the microwave. Was that a warning statement?

Burger King has three salads to choose from. The TENDERCRISP Garden Salad, the TENDERGRILL Garden Salad, and the Side Garden Salad.

A salad may be a little boring without a dressing like Ken’s Fat Free Ranch Dressing which includes titanium dioxide (an artificial color, or sunscreen, depending on use), preservatives, and the ingredient seemingly mandatory in all ranch dressings: monosodium glutamate.

Once again, as is typical with the fast food industry, they took a simple thing like chicken, and added a long list of ingredients.

TENDERGRILL® CHICKEN BREAST FILET
Chicken Breast with Rib Meat, Water, Seasoning (Maltodextrin, Salt, Sugar, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Garlic Powder, Spices, Natural Flavors, Onion Powder, Modified Corn Starch, Chicken Fat, Chicken Powder, Chicken Broth, Disodium Guanylate and Disodium Inosinate, Citric Acid, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Dehydrated Garlic, and Artificial Flavors.), Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Salt, Sodium Phosphates. Glazed with: Water, Seasoning [Maltodextrin, Salt, Sugar, Methylcellulose, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Partially Hydrogenated Sunflower Oil, Modified Potato Starch, Fructose, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Dehydrated Garlic, Spices, Modified Corn Starch, Xanthan Gum, Natural Flavors, Disodium Guanylate and Disodium Inosinate, Chicken Fat, Carmel Color, Grill Flavor (from Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oil), Chicken Powder, Chicken Broth, Turmeric, Smoke Flavor, Annatto Extract, and Artificial Flavors], Soybean Oil. [12]

Taco Bell

Taco Bell’s website didn’t have much emphasis on health. Under the nutrition guide, at the bottom was a link to Keep it Balanced, a token nod to health. It had no serious information on how to really eat healthy. They recommend foods like pizza and tacos (no surprise) because they may include ingredients from several food groups at once. Including several food groups does not necessarily mean it’s a healthy food.

The seasoned beef, carne asada steak, spicy shredded chicken, and even the rice all include autolyzed yeast extract (hidden MSG). Disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate are flavor enhancers used in synergy with MSG [7,8]. Therefore, menu items with disodium inosinate and/or disodium guanylate also contain MSG. This includes the avocado ranch dressing, southwest chicken, citrus salsa, creamy jalapeno sauce, creamy lime sauce, lime seasoned red strips, pepper jack sauce, and seasoned rice.

According to Wikipedia, dimethylpolysiloxane is optically clear, and is generally considered to be inert, non-toxic, and non-flammable. It is used in silicone caulk, adhesives, and as an anti-foaming agent [6]. Appetizingly enough, it’s also included in Taco Bell’s rice.

Wendy’s

At Wendy’s, there are several tempting salads. The mandarin chicken salad seems healthy at first glance. It has diced chicken, mandarin oranges, almonds, crispy noodles, your choice of dressings, and five different varieties of lettuce. Then reality takes a bite when you check the ingredients list. The almonds are roasted and salted. The crispy noodles are not whole grain. The mandarin orange segments are not freshly peeled oranges; most likely canned. The diced chicken has added autolyzed yeast extract (MSG), disodium inosinate, disodium guanylate, sodium phosphates (soap?), salt, more salt, sugar, modified cornstarch (sic)[1], and the universal umbrella ingredient list: spices, natural flavors, and artificial flavors.

In the ingredients lists for the salad dressings, one surprise was titanium dioxide in the Low Fat Honey Mustard Dressing and the Reduced Fat Creamy Ranch Dressing. It’s a very versatile chemical. It can be used to manufacture paint, sunscreen, semiconductors, and food coloring [2].

Wendy’s Southwest Taco Salad is a salad with Wendy’s chili. Once again, the chili has hidden MSG: autolyzed yeast extract, spices, artificial flavors, natural flavorings, disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate (MSG give-aways). It’s puzzling to try to understand why their chili would need to include an anti-caking agent such as silicon dioxide (also known as sand, or glass powder).

See if you can spot the sunscreen, MSG, and soap in this Wendy’s ingredient:

Seasoned Tortilla Strips
Whole Corn, Vegetable Oil (contains one or more of the following: corn, soybean or sunflower oil), Salt, Buttermilk Solids, Spices, Tomato, Sweet Cream, Dextrose, Onion, Sugar, Cheddar Cheese (cultured milk, salt, enzymes), Corn Starch, Modified Corn Starch, Maltodextrin, Nonfat Dry Milk, Garlic, Torula Yeast, Citric Acid, Autolyzed Yeast, Natural and Artificial Flavor, Artificial Colors (including extractives of paprika, turmeric and annatto, titanium dioxide, red 40, yellow 5, blue 1), Disodium Phosphate, Lactic Acid, Soy Lecithin. CONTAINS: MILK.

Apparently, taste really is all that matters at Wendy’s.

Subway

If a sandwich is advertised as healthy, one would expect that the bread would be whole grain. Not so with Subway’s wheat bread. While it does have some whole wheat flour, it’s the third ingredient, listed just before high fructose corn syrup [4]. None of Subway’s breads are whole grain. Ammonium sulfate (a fertilizer) is also added. Unfinished sandwiches may be composted. The bread also contains azodicarbonamide. From Wikipedia,

Use of azodicarbonamide as a food additive is banned in Australia. In the UK, the Health and Safety Executive has identified azodicarbonamide as a respiratory sensitiser (a possible cause of asthma) and determined that products should be labeled with May cause sensitisation by inhalation [5].

Most of the meats at Subway contain MSG and/or sodium nitrite.

KFC

The chicken, the gravy, and even the rice all have monosodium glutamate added. Not surprisingly, the chicken in the salads also has MSG. For a healthy menu item, the House Side Salad without dressing has nothing more than iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, and tomatoes.

KFC claims 0g trans fat per serving for all their fried chicken. But The Extra Crispy Chicken, Colonel’s Crispy Strips, HBBQ Wings, Boneless HBBQ Wings, Fiery Buffalo Wings, and more have partially hydrogenated soybean oil listed in the ingredients. So if the trans fat content is below 0.5g per serving, they can round down to zero and claim zero grams per serving.

In Closing

The salad a la carte may be the only healthy thing to eat at a fast food place. The side salads offered at the fast food places are hardly a meal, and hardly what one would consider a real salad.

Regarding MSG, it is helpful to remember this statement from Wikipedia when reading food labels.
Under current FDA regulations, when MSG is added to a food, it must be identified as monosodium glutamate in the label's ingredient list. If however MSG is part of a spice mix that is purchased by another company, the manufacturer does not have to list the ingredients of that spice mix and may use the words flavorings or spices. Even food that uses the no msg label may therefore have MSG that is added from a spice mix from another company under current FDA regulations.[9]

As with most meat products in fast food restaurants, consider any meat, including on salads, to include MSG, chemical preservatives, and trans fats. Even seemingly simple items like rice can have ingredients like anti-foaming agents.

Resouces:

http://www.wendys.com/food/Nutrition.jsp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fats

http://subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Nutrition/frmUSIngredients.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azodicarbonamide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylpolysiloxane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_guanylate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_phosphates

http://www.bk.com/#menu=3,-1,-1

About the author

John Andrews is an electrical engineer currently living in Utah. He earned his bachelor's degree in electrical engineering in 2001 at the University of Utah. John has adopted a whole foods lifestyle rich in raw fruits and vegetables. This lifestyle change has produced a noticeable improvement in physical health, appearance, and mental clarity. He savors knowledge and is eager to teach others how to be healthy.

Source: http://www.newstarget.com/022194.html

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strider
24-11-2007, 07:43 PM
[[/SIZE]

:eek:NO

:D

kasalt
25-11-2007, 02:19 AM
Great find, thanks for posting this. I should know better than to eat at a fast-food restaurant anyway...

gold
25-11-2007, 03:12 AM
I've never eaten there much, but when I have I've always felt bad afterwards. Now I know why. I was only reading the other day that soy is in fact listed on the poisonous list. I couldn't believe this as I've always classed it as a health food.

joejam
25-11-2007, 05:56 AM
Thoughts are things.....and as long as you keep believing the spill.....we r stuck........
let us think they are all out to get us.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this is what they want.
Thoughts r things......
As a man thinks, so is he.......
There is a little truth in all I read.

kasalt
25-11-2007, 07:49 AM
I was only reading the other day that soy is in fact listed on the poisonous list. I couldn't believe this as I've always classed it as a health food.

Soy is only healthy if it is fermented. Here's why:

http://www.mercola.com/2004/aug/4/fermented_soy.htm

Soy Bad, Soy Good: The Pluses of Fermented Soy

Nonfermented soy products contain phytic acid, which contains anti-nutritive properties. Phytic acid binds with certain nutrients, including iron, to inhibit their absorption. This is a direct, physical effect that takes place in the digestive system. Their ability to bind is limited by the milligrams of phytic acid present.

On the other hand, fermented soy stops the effect of phytic acid and increases the availability of isoflavones. The fermentation also creates the probiotics--the "good" bacteria the body is absolutely dependent on, such as lactobacilli--that increase the quantity, availability, digestibility and assimilation of nutrients in the body.

Products using fermented soy include:

Natto
Miso
Tempeh
Soy sauces
Fermented tofu and soymilk

Many studies have shown traditionally fermented soy--which is the form that is very popular in many Asian cultures--aids in preventing and reducing a variety of diseases including certain forms of heart disease and cancers.

Good Foods

One such study of the culturing method involved in the production of the Japanese traditional food miso concluded the culturing process itself led to a lower number and growth rate of cancers. Researchers also found it was not the presence of any specific nutrient that was cultured along with the soyabean paste but the cultured soy medium itself that was responsible for the health benefits associated with eating miso.

Miso, a fermented or probiotic form of soyabean, is particularly rich in the isoflavone aglycones, genistein and daidzein, which are believed to be cancer chemopreventatives.

The health benefits are found to be as good with natto, according to research conducted by a Japanese scientist who found natto had the highest fibrinolytic activity among 200 foods produced worldwide. About 15 years ago, that same scientist discovered an enzyme produced in the fermentation process, nattokinase, a powerful agent contained in the sticky part of natto that dissolves blood clots that lead to heart attacks, strokes and senility.

Natto also contains vitamin K2 and isophrabon, which help to prevent diseases such as osteoporosis and breast cancer and slow down the aging process.

Why [Unfermented] Soy Can Damage Your Health:
http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/index.htm

gold
25-11-2007, 12:56 PM
Soy is only healthy if it is fermented. Here's why:

http://www.mercola.com/2004/aug/4/fermented_soy.htm

Soy Bad, Soy Good: The Pluses of Fermented Soy

Nonfermented soy products contain phytic acid, which contains anti-nutritive properties. Phytic acid binds with certain nutrients, including iron, to inhibit their absorption. This is a direct, physical effect that takes place in the digestive system. Their ability to bind is limited by the milligrams of phytic acid present.

On the other hand, fermented soy stops the effect of phytic acid and increases the availability of isoflavones. The fermentation also creates the probiotics--the "good" bacteria the body is absolutely dependent on, such as lactobacilli--that increase the quantity, availability, digestibility and assimilation of nutrients in the body.

Products using fermented soy include:

Natto
Miso
Tempeh
Soy sauces
Fermented tofu and soymilk

Many studies have shown traditionally fermented soy--which is the form that is very popular in many Asian cultures--aids in preventing and reducing a variety of diseases including certain forms of heart disease and cancers.

Good Foods

One such study of the culturing method involved in the production of the Japanese traditional food miso concluded the culturing process itself led to a lower number and growth rate of cancers. Researchers also found it was not the presence of any specific nutrient that was cultured along with the soyabean paste but the cultured soy medium itself that was responsible for the health benefits associated with eating miso.

Miso, a fermented or probiotic form of soyabean, is particularly rich in the isoflavone aglycones, genistein and daidzein, which are believed to be cancer chemopreventatives.

The health benefits are found to be as good with natto, according to research conducted by a Japanese scientist who found natto had the highest fibrinolytic activity among 200 foods produced worldwide. About 15 years ago, that same scientist discovered an enzyme produced in the fermentation process, nattokinase, a powerful agent contained in the sticky part of natto that dissolves blood clots that lead to heart attacks, strokes and senility.

Natto also contains vitamin K2 and isophrabon, which help to prevent diseases such as osteoporosis and breast cancer and slow down the aging process.

Why [Unfermented] Soy Can Damage Your Health:
http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/index.htm

Thanks for that info kasalt! I'll enjoy my Friday night chow mien better now, knowing it's not poisoned:D:D

kblood
25-11-2007, 01:16 PM
Here in Denmark, I think fast food places have to show customers what is in the food they serve. Therefore mcdonalds has a paper on each tray that shows how much fat and types of fat in each menu item on all menus. I never expected the numbers to be good, and they arent :)

Probably not the last time I have eaten at a fast food restaurent. I am quite impressed with KFC btw :) I did not expect them to avoid trans fat that well. KFC is the one place I wish we had here in Denmark after visiting New York.

I dont eat at fast food restaurents much either. I agree with gold that you might very well feel a bit bad after eating at McDonalds f.ex. and the food does not really keep your stomach full for long. My favorite McDonalds product is their milkshake though.... like softice with strawberry or whatever flavor :)

catfood
25-11-2007, 02:24 PM
The last time I was at MacDonald’s, (its been a long time) I got a egg Mcmuffin and after having a bite out of it I felt sum thing stuck in my front teeth, when I puld it out it turned out to be a long black curly pubic hear.:eek:
Needles to say iv never been back.

lightbringer
01-12-2007, 01:44 AM
Use of azodicarbonamide found in subways bread is allso used in the production of foamed plastics and the manufacture of gaskets WTFFFFFFFFF??????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azodicarbonamide

catfood
01-12-2007, 12:03 PM
iv never been to subway sumthing just told me to stay away.

CHICKEN BREAST STRIPS Boneless, skinless, chicken breasts with rib meat, water, soy protein concentrate, salt, modified food starch, chicken flavor (contains salt, autolyzed yeast extract, sugar, molasses, disodium inosinate, disodium guanylate, sodium phosphates), sodium phosphates. Contains soy.



http://subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Nutrition/pdf/NutritionValues.pdf

http://subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Nutrition/frmUSIngredients.aspx

misscpb
14-01-2008, 11:38 PM
I just found this with regards to what crap is in McDonalds food regarding preservatives, additives etc. No wonder people are becoming more obese and addicted to this type of junk food, I am sure it has altered peoples brain and body chemistry and encouraged some kind of chemical addiction as a result of what is in the food. Here are a few things below:-

Bacon & Egg McMuffin

English Muffin
Wheat Flour, Water, Yeast, Maize Grits, Ground
Rice, Wheat Gluten, Sugar, Salt, Vegetable Oil
(Rapeseed), Soya Flour, Dough Acidifier, Wheat
Fibre, Preservative (E282 Calcium Propionate),
Emulsifiers (E471 Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty
Acids, E472e Mono- and Diacetyltartaric Acid
Esters of Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids),
Acidity Regulator (E334 Tartaric Acid), Flour
Treatment Agent (E300 Ascorbic Acid).

Fanta Orange
Water, Sugar, E330 Citric Acid, Stabilisers (E414
Gum Arabic, E444 Sucrose Acetate Isobutyrate,
E445 Glycerol Esters of Wood Rosins), Acidity
Regulator (E331 Sodium Citrate), Flavourings,
Preservative (E211 Sodium Benzoate), Sweeteners
(E950 Acesulfame K, E954 Sodium Saccharin),
Colour (E160e Beta Carotene).

Streaky Bacon
Pork Bellies, Salt, Preservatives (E250 Sodium
Nitrite, E252 Potassium Nitrate), Antioxidant (E301
Sodium Ascorbate).

Cheddar Cheese Slice (processed)
Vegetarian Cheddar Cheese (55%), Water, Butter,
Whey Powder, Milk Proteins, Natural Cheese
Flavouring, Emulsifying Salts (E331 Trisodium
Citrate, E450 Diphosphates, E452
Polyphosphates), Salt, Preservative (E200 Sorbic
Acid), Colour (E160a Natural Carotenes, E160c
Paprika Extract).

Butter
Vegetable Oils (Rapeseed), Water, Butter Oil,
Buttermilk Powder, Salt (0.6%), Emulsifiers (E471
Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids, E472c
Citric Acid Esters of Mono- and Diglycerides of
Fatty Acids, E481 Sodium Stearoyl-2-lactylate),
Flavour, Colour (E160a Beta Carotene).

Pancakes
Water, Wheat Flour, Sugar, Spray Dried Vegetable
Fat (Refined Palm Oil, Glucose Syrup, Caseinate,
Stabiliser (E451 Sodium Triphosphate), Free Flow
Agent (E341 Calcium Phosphate)), Maize Starch,
Whey Powder, Vegetable Oil (Sunflower, Rapeseed),
Raising Agents (E450 Diphosphates, E500 Sodium
Carbonates, E341 Calcium Phosphates), Wheat
Gluten, Free Range Whole Egg Powder, Free
Range Hen’s Egg Albumen, Dextrose, Flavourings,
Salt, Thickener (E412 Guar Gum).

Pancake Syrup
Glucose Syrup, Sugar, Water, Flavourings (contains
Wheat from Glucose Syrup, Corn Syrup, E1520
Propylene Glycol, Colour (E150 Caramel)),
Preservative (E202 Potassium Sorbate), Colour
(E150d Caramel).

Big Mac Sauce
Water, Vegetable Oil (Soya Oil), Gherkins, Sugar,
Spirit Vinegar, Modified Maize Starch, Free Range
Egg Yolk, Mustard Seed, Salt, E260 Acetic Acid,
High-fructose Corn Syrup, Mustard Flour, Stabiliser
(E415 Xanthan Gum), Preservative (E202
Potassium Sorbate), Natural Flavourings, Firming
Agent (E509 Calcium Chloride), Dried Garlic, Spice,
Colour (E160c Paprika Extract).

Dill Pickle Slices (Gherkins)
Cucumbers, Water, Salt, Vinegar, Dill Pickle Blends
(contains E414 Gum Arabic, Extractives of Dill and
other spices, Extractives of Turmeric), E509
Calcium Chloride, E202 Potassium Sorbate, E211
Sodium Benzoate.

Bun
Wheat Flour, Water, Sugar, Yeast,
Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed), Salt,
Soya Flour, Emulsifier (E472e
Mono- and Diacetyltartaric
Acid Esters of Mono- and
Diglycerides of Fatty
Acids), Wheat Fibre,
Preservative (E282
CalciumPropionate), Flour Treatment Agent (E300
Ascorbic Acid).

Fish Filet Portion
Hoki or Alaskan Pollock (75%), Wheat Flour,
Water, Modified Wheat Starch, Cornflour, Salt,
Stabiliser (E466 Carboxy Methyl Cellulose).

Chicken McNuggets™
Chicken (45%), Coating (Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed
Oil, Sunflower Oil), Wheat Flour, Maize Flour,
Raising Agents (E450 Disodium Diphosphate,
E500 Sodium Bicarbonate, E341 Monocalcium
Phosphate), Dried Egg Albumen, Pepper, Salt,
Wheat Starch, Whey Powder, Ground Celery,
Flavour Enhancer (E508 Potassium Chloride),
Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed Oil)), Water, Natural
Flavouring, Flavour Enhancer (E508 Potassium)

Coated Chicken Patty
Chicken (53%), Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed Oil),
Water, Wheat Flour, Maize Starch, Maize Flour,
Potato Starch, Modified Wheat Starch, Flavour
Enhancer (E508 Potassium Chloride), Salt,
Mustard Flour, Natural Flavourings, Dried Egg
Albumen, Raising agents (E450 Disodium
Diphosphate, E500 Sodium Bicarbonate), Sugar,
Anti-caking Agent (E551 Silicon Dioxide).
Prepared in the restaurants using a nonhydrogenated
vegetable oil.

Sandwich Sauce
Water, Vegetable Oil (Soya Oil), Sugar, Spirit
Vinegar, Modified Maize Starch, Egg Yolk, Stabiliser
(E415 Xanthan Gum), Reconstituted Lemon Juice,
Salt, Mustard Seed, Preservative (E202 Potassium
Sorbate), Mustard Flour, Natural Flavouring, Dried
Garlic, Spice, Colours (E100 Curcumin, E160c
Paprika Extract).

Brown Roll
Wheat Flour, Water, Sugar, Millet, Malt Extract
(contains Barley Malt, Water, Wheaten Malt), Yeast,
Vegetable Oil (Sunflower Oil), Linseed, Sunflower
Seeds, Baking Agent (contains Wheat Flour,
Emulsifiers (E481 Sodium Stearoyl-2-lactylate,
E472e Mono- and Diacetyltartaric Acid Esters of
Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids), Wheat
Swelling Flour, Thickener (E412 Guar Gum),
Dextrose, Acidity Regulator (E341 Calcium
Phosphate), Enzymes, Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed Oil),

Ice Cream Cone
Ice Cream
Skimmed Milk, Cream (35% Butterfat), Sugar,
Whey powder, Glucose Syrup, Stabilisers (E412
Guar Gum, E471 Mono and Diglycerides of Fatty
Acids), Flavouring, E407 Carrageenan
(standardised with sugars), Dextrose.
Wheat Flour, Sugar, Potato Starch, Vegetable Fat
(Rapeseed), Raising Agents (E504 Magnesium
Carbonate, E500 Sodium Bicarbonate), Emulsifier
(Soya Lecithin Mix (contains E322 Soya Lecithin,
Glucose Syrup, Milk Protein, E551 Silicon Dioxide)).
Improver (E300 Ascorbic Acid)), Wheat Sour, Salt.

Coke Zero
Water, Colour (E150d Caramel), Sweeteners (E951
Aspartame*, E950 Acesulfame K), E338
Phosphoric Acid, Flavourings, Caffeine,
Preservative (E211 Sodium Benzoate), Acidity
Regulator (E331 Sodium Citrate), Anti-foaming
Agent (E900 Dimethyl Polysiloxane).
* contains a source of Phenylalanine.


You can look at the link, click on OUR FOOD GUIDE PDF to see it:-
www.mcdonalds.co.uk/asp/ourfood/asp/NutritionCounter.asp?mealType=sandwiches