ponzi nemesis
29-11-2010, 10:53 AM
In another thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145369) ladybird happened to type the following:
You know, ponzi nemesis, this matrix is so bizarre and becoming increasingly absurd at the moment that I can only bear it with a good sense of sarcasm and by laughing the lunatics down.
This resonated with me. I wanted to comment on it in detail but decided it was too 'off topic' so I decided to start a new thread; here we are :) I'll start with a story that hopefully will give you some kind of idea what I am thinking of here. A year ago or so I was living in Cambodia. There was quite a lot strange about the circumstances I was in and I won't go into all the details, but one morning I found myself in a situation where I realised I was being scammed by two people, one of whom was a lover. It was all rather intense and I felt hurt.
Bar a couple of instances of fainting, both times when stressed, which technically could be 'petit mal' seizures, I have never been epileptic. However in this stressful, intense situation I found myself having a 'grand mal' seizure. I went through all the symptoms. My body went completely rigid and I collapsed on the floor. The other two people seemed concerned and they managed to lift me up onto the bed. I then started shaking violently, but while I was shaking I realised that I was laughing out of control, in parallel with what, until then, had been, or at least seemed, completely involuntary. I was aware that I was faking it, that it was a kind of practical joke on the two of them to get my own back.
I have no idea what would have happened if I had decided to stop, and just snap out of it. However that didn't arise; I was laughing so much because I was genuinely enjoying the practical joke. At the same time I was going through the motions of a genuine seizure and having the biggest laugh I'd had for ages. The awareness continued right through without any loss of consciousness. It was morning, I hadn't drunk anything, smoked anything or taken any drugs.
The way I see it we are all simultaneously 'victims' of life, so to speak, and 'jokers', playing around, including, most of the time with ourselves. It was as though I was only allowed to be aware of this while I was 'out of control' with the seizure, so I wasn't in a position to 'spoil' the joke, if you see what I mean. Not, as I mentioned above, that I felt any desire too.
Now think about how this might apply to, say, Tony Blair. Imagine if on one level he really thought all his decisions were good ones, doing the right thing, etcetera, but on another he is just taking the piss, joking around. On that 'joker' level he knows none of this is real, that it's just a game, so it doesn't matter if people get bombed or whatever, they just 'pop out' of whatever this is and go 'wow, what a trip!' or similar :)
I could waffle on like this for ages but first, does anyone else relate to this or have any similar experiences?
You know, ponzi nemesis, this matrix is so bizarre and becoming increasingly absurd at the moment that I can only bear it with a good sense of sarcasm and by laughing the lunatics down.
This resonated with me. I wanted to comment on it in detail but decided it was too 'off topic' so I decided to start a new thread; here we are :) I'll start with a story that hopefully will give you some kind of idea what I am thinking of here. A year ago or so I was living in Cambodia. There was quite a lot strange about the circumstances I was in and I won't go into all the details, but one morning I found myself in a situation where I realised I was being scammed by two people, one of whom was a lover. It was all rather intense and I felt hurt.
Bar a couple of instances of fainting, both times when stressed, which technically could be 'petit mal' seizures, I have never been epileptic. However in this stressful, intense situation I found myself having a 'grand mal' seizure. I went through all the symptoms. My body went completely rigid and I collapsed on the floor. The other two people seemed concerned and they managed to lift me up onto the bed. I then started shaking violently, but while I was shaking I realised that I was laughing out of control, in parallel with what, until then, had been, or at least seemed, completely involuntary. I was aware that I was faking it, that it was a kind of practical joke on the two of them to get my own back.
I have no idea what would have happened if I had decided to stop, and just snap out of it. However that didn't arise; I was laughing so much because I was genuinely enjoying the practical joke. At the same time I was going through the motions of a genuine seizure and having the biggest laugh I'd had for ages. The awareness continued right through without any loss of consciousness. It was morning, I hadn't drunk anything, smoked anything or taken any drugs.
The way I see it we are all simultaneously 'victims' of life, so to speak, and 'jokers', playing around, including, most of the time with ourselves. It was as though I was only allowed to be aware of this while I was 'out of control' with the seizure, so I wasn't in a position to 'spoil' the joke, if you see what I mean. Not, as I mentioned above, that I felt any desire too.
Now think about how this might apply to, say, Tony Blair. Imagine if on one level he really thought all his decisions were good ones, doing the right thing, etcetera, but on another he is just taking the piss, joking around. On that 'joker' level he knows none of this is real, that it's just a game, so it doesn't matter if people get bombed or whatever, they just 'pop out' of whatever this is and go 'wow, what a trip!' or similar :)
I could waffle on like this for ages but first, does anyone else relate to this or have any similar experiences?