Why does People Have Hate 4 Allan Watts

[sticky ichabod crane]

Allan has only done the best of his work with in the last few years. & has really turned the pressure on Icke I thought.

Congrates Dave on the new book. I don't know what it's called but I'm sure I'll find it at the local Sally Ann soon.

Hip hip hooray for Allan Watt:D

[ssyx]

Allan has only done the best of his work with in the last few years. & has really turned the pressure on Icke I thought.


Yeah!!!
Can't wait to see them on "Celebrity Death Match: A Truthers Special!"
:rolleyes:

[theforce]

i prefer

http://www.eyeonthefutureradio.com/images/michael_tsarion.jpg

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/01jan/RICR-070118.html

[theforce]

I like Alan Watts

Alan Watts: A Conversation with Myself - Part 1 - YouTube

But Alan Watt...eh...

[scar]

are you referring to to alan watts? or alan watt?
either way they're both great.

[peachped]

Both of them could present problems for Icke.

Watts could kneel down behind him whilst Watt pushed him over from the front.

[thirdwave]

First of all I dont really recall many people here bringing him up other than "Watt Fans"....

I have no problem with him really.... but hear is a quote of something I posted on another thread...


"If we all went out into London with "NO NWO" T shirt's on... and made up hundreds of Icke, Jones, Watt, Tsarion, Maxwell DVDs and leaflets, urging people to get involved in them. It would be like a menu for people with so much info... many may laugh at Icke and may like Jones... others would like Maxwell and Watt and not like Tsarion.... so on.... they would all warm to who they felt was doing a good job and who they related to better due to their up bringing, experiences and views...... People may well find out that maxwell and icke don't get on, and think "ahh well..these things happen".... Jones thinks Icke should tone down with the reptile thing, while Icke thinks Jones should wake up to the Christian thing.... they all show differences, But all push genraly in the same direction, just with diforent perspectives and views.. But my problem with Watt is.... I would not really want him on the Leaflets or DVD!! (which would be a shame)

WHY?? .. not because I don't think he has some great info that can educate people, but because I think the moment he brought around accusations that Icke is a Mason and others who promote UFOs are loopy...so on.... at that moment he put a virus in the system ...within the team. Because we would be handing out these leaflets of people who are pushing for the same cause., even though some have differences... but Watt put out a big no no. Because when ever anyone who is new to all this stuff looked into it all, they would then have a question on their mind... who is right??? ..when why does it matter?..as they clearly are all putting up the same signs.

Is Watt bad? ...is Icke Bad??? ... or are they both stupid? ..maybe they all are!! .... if Icke is a mason then how do we know Jones is not?... maybe Watt is??

and this is why I would not want him on it... the rest of the researchers would not have this virus....

which is why I think its important for Watt to dust this up.... and thus be able to harmonise with the other people who at the end of the day are all working for the same cause.."


Of course if there is factual evidence of these accusations then it would infact be healthy for the movement.. but there is not... and its not, regardless of what people opinions are.


those are my thoughts on him.... based on the over all picture. I do not really think about Watt much, and have not created one thread about him here.... but when others feel the need to square him up to Icke and promote his work all over the David Icke forum.... I feel they to are being a little like Alan Watt ...Which IMO is unhealthy for the movement.

[johnstewner]

his blurbs require an attention spam of more then a few moments i guess
that and it bees not the happy shiny stuff :)

[sunyatta60]

A friend of mine when he comes around always ask if he can hear Alan's latest show. I myself prefer the way David Icke tells it.
I would like to see Icke and Watt in a debate that would be interesting and insightful. I remember when Alex Jones accused Icke pf placing a Turd in a punchbowl I think he later apologised to David for that.

[eternal_spirit]

Both of them could present problems for Icke.

Watts could kneel down behind him whilst Watt pushed him over from the front.

.........

LOLOLOLOL :D

Watt comes across as genuine to some, to others he doesn't.

[eternal_spirit]

I like Alan Watts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aufuwMiKmE

But Alan Watt...eh...

..........

It's the other way round for me. I must admit the upper class English accent is a big turn off with Watts. I prefer Watt with his Scottish tones.

[john white]

What about Jim Marrs?

We never seem to have anyone posting about him

Nothing wrong with Watt particularily, hes a bit of a prat at times but arnt we all? certainly any "hate" would be a ludicrous waste of time and mis-placement of energy, as well as scarcley justified, most especially just becuase of some pithy ego driven and evidence free comments about Icke

However, what we do have is a few people caught up way to close who are way to keen to make Watt into there "surrogate daddy": probably repeating a mistake they have already made with Icke... who then like to claim victimisation with no justification. Its a familiar pattern with anyone identifying who they are based on someone else... fundi christians, dawkins cultists etc etc etc

And as is typical with people needing constant emotional re-enforcement, they then make a disproportianate amount of noise

Hence this thread

I'll leave it here for now, but it will probably get ranted later, lets see what happens with it

[tron]

i prefer

http://www.eyeonthefutureradio.com/images/michael_tsarion.jpg

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2007/01jan/RICR-070118.html

Seconded! :D And I've noticed that the only people that really bring up Watt are Watt fans, and they tend to be the ones who are slightly more close-minded, trying to wind people up. Only an opinion remember. :) I watched one of his video's. Thought it was pretty good, doesn't tell me anything that Tsarion doesn't, and to be fair, I think Tsarion has a much clearer and more insightful view on things. Again, just an opinion. ;)

Peace,
xx

[tron]

What about Jim Marrs?

We never seem to have anyone posting about him

Nothing wrong with Watt particularily, hes a bit of a prat at times but arnt we all? certainly any "hate" would be a ludicrous waste of time and mis-placement of energy, as well as scarcley justified, most especially just becuase of some pithy ego driven and evidence free comments about Icke

However, what we do have is a few people caught up way to close who are way to keen to make Watt into there "surrogate daddy": probably repeating a mistake they have already made with Icke... who then like to claim victimisation with no justification. Its a familiar pattern with anyone identifying who they are based on someone else... fundi christians, dawkins cultists etc etc etc

And as is typical with people needing constant emotional re-enforcement, they then make a disproportianate amount of noise

Hence this thread

I'll leave it here for now, but it will probably get ranted later, lets see what happens with it

I've noticed this also, Watt tends to get looked at with an almost 'guru' like taint. I never class anyone as a guru, you can't sit on everyone's word with baited breathe, there are some things that Icke/Tsarion say that I'm not 100% on. The important thing is to take the information and to see how it relates to other things you have seen/read.

xx

[thirdwave]

.........

LOLOLOLOL :D

Watt comes across as genuine to some, to others he doesn't.


I think he is genuine and informative..... just foolish and hypocritical as well...

[woghd]

First of all I dont really recall many people here bringing him up other than "Watt Fans"....

I have no problem with him really.... but hear is a quote of something I posted on another thread...


"If we all went out into London with "NO NWO" T shirt's on... and made up hundreds of Icke, Jones, Watt, Tsarion, Maxwell DVDs and leaflets, urging people to get involved in them. It would be like a menu for people with so much info... many may laugh at Icke and may like Jones... others would like Maxwell and Watt and not like Tsarion.... so on.... they would all warm to who they felt was doing a good job and who they related to better due to their up bringing, experiences and views...... People may well find out that maxwell and icke don't get on, and think "ahh well..these things happen".... Jones thinks Icke should tone down with the reptile thing, while Icke thinks Jones should wake up to the Christian thing.... they all show differences, But all push genraly in the same direction, just with diforent perspectives and views.. But my problem with Watt is.... I would not really want him on the Leaflets or DVD!! (which would be a shame)

WHY?? .. not because I don't think he has some great info that can educate people, but because I think the moment he brought around accusations that Icke is a Mason and others who promote UFOs are loopy...so on.... at that moment he put a virus in the system ...within the team. Because we would be handing out these leaflets of people who are pushing for the same cause., even though some have differences... but Watt put out a big no no. Because when ever anyone who is new to all this stuff looked into it all, they would then have a question on their mind... who is right??? ..when why does it matter?..as they clearly are all putting up the same signs.

Is Watt bad? ...is Icke Bad??? ... or are they both stupid? ..maybe they all are!! .... if Icke is a mason then how do we know Jones is not?... maybe Watt is??

and this is why I would not want him on it... the rest of the researchers would not have this virus....

which is why I think its important for Watt to dust this up.... and thus be able to harmonise with the other people who at the end of the day are all working for the same cause.."


Of course if there is factual evidence of these accusations then it would infact be healthy for the movement.. but there is not... and its not, regardless of what people opinions are.


those are my thoughts on him.... based on the over all picture. I do not really think about Watt much, and have not created one thread about him here.... but when others feel the need to square him up to Icke and promote his work all over the David Icke forum.... I feel they to are being a little like Alan Watt ...Which IMO is unhealthy for the movement.


STANDS AND APPLAUDS !!

Archangel

[eternal_spirit]

LOL I am a Watt fan, why ? Go listen to the man and find out. He's way ahead of most researchers.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14564

[28th kingdom]

Keep wasting time, debating... they're all from the Draco.

[thirdwave]

LOL I am a Watt fan, why ? Go listen to the man and find out. He's way ahead of most researchers.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14564

but that's irrelevant and also just a point of view...... he still causes confrontation in the field.... more than any other researcher.... its not a race its an effort and anyone making any kind of effort should be respected.

what do you mean ... "Way ahead of all the other researchers"?????? I cant make sense of that...

ok, so what is he way ahead at?? ... I don't really want to read 10 pages of his work... but tell me something that he talks of that is so much more relevant than everyone else other than some of his opinions that some others share???

the details are not even relevant within what these people talk of because none of them know the day to day agenda of them... and how do they know if the agenda ever takes a twist???? ... they don't.... they have only learnt stuff them selves..

what we do know is there IS an agenda and the most important thing is to make that agenda known.... so people can see what is going on and why events are taking place.... and IMO that's all that counts....