Why Why Why????

[yandoo007]

Hi there,

I was hoping for some of your opinoins on the following matter:

Illuminate control the world (reptilian, from another planet) I can totally buy this considering in my view we live in a universe (or so we are told) with infinite possibilities planets life etc....To me the there is no need for "proof" that other beings exist, i know!

Ive been doing some reading "tales from the time loop" got for my birthday - bloody fantastic book by the way! Personally i more interested in the reality stuff of concesness and that!

Previous to reading this book i have thought that entities feed of negative energy....

but my question is this.....If there is knowledge of who we truley are and the illiminate know this information as well....

Why do they want to control us like they do??? Because surely with the knowledge and enlgihtenment they may have, would they not see that control and stealing our energy is nothing in comparasion with being fre and enlightened themselves????

I have been pondering this for years now and would like to know what anybody else feels about this!!!

Why Why Why????

Im probably not making sa much sense putting it down on paper here....but i just dont understand why they would do it, if they being enlightend they are able to tap into the universal energy....

Please give me your opinions..

thanks

Tom - an awakening sol!!!

[soglad]

Maybe because they don't really know shit either!

Maybe they're not as "illuminated" as they lead themselves to believe!

Remember, these guys are in ego land.....Freemasons and their whole degrees of masonry, climb the ladder and whoever's at the top is the most knowledgable, of course this is bullshit.

I'd say they are controlling because they fear our potential.

[rossus]

i'd say they are controlling because they like to be on top.

to be on top means:
- having the best job (or not having to work at all)
- have most money
- have most luxuary
- have most drugs
- have most sex
- they can do their perverse things without being charged for it,
and if they are there's a big chance they can buy their way out.

and last but not least, they make us suffer...
because they enjoy seeing other people suffer.


and perhaps they are worshipping... or are possessed,
by something which could be described by the word "evil"

[yandoo007]

Hey thanks for reply :)

Yes but at the very top level these entities must be aware of what they are closing themselves off to...

Freemasons and other secret societies, i agree dont know shit..."Compartmental pyramids" But at the top level....these beings must surely understand???

I mean they are interdimensional can shape shift, they must understand it because they are feeding off us!!

I feel its like they are turning their back on something that is far more magnificant for soemthing siginicantly less!

For me being enlightend would enable me to see through the crap!

thanks

[soglad]

Yeah, hence why some high-level Freemasons DO leave the masonry and go public with their stuff as a means of ridding bad karma etc. etc.

Meh, the more barriers we bring down the better!

[yandoo007]

Hi,

But at the higehst level thinks like; jobs, drugs, power, money etc.... are irrelvant!

I mean like if we can control our own experienced based on experience that "All matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all 1 consciousness experiencing itself subjectively".

Jobs and down here on earth stuff isnt important?? Its not truth...

im starting to have experiences that lead me to this conclusion!

oh man perhaps im just confusing myself here - lol

[truthseeker1980]

I thought they control us because they dont want us to be enlightened, as if we all were there would be no control.

If we all used the powers we actually had they couldn't control us.

I have also read that they need to control us, because lightbeing humans are at a higher spiritual level than other beings, such as the greys and reptilians, they want to feed off or tune our energy away from knowing this for 2012. Not read enough on that though to comment further.

[yandoo007]

Hi there,

thanks for reply!

But surely regardless of who we are experiencing....even the illuminati are a droplet in a sea of conciousness??? Like us?? We are all one????


thanks

[lenejento]

Hi Yandoo

I think you are asking very intelligent philosophical questions :)
Isn't this what we're all wondering, why why why? I hope it will be very clear to us soon..

I have been asking the exact same question as you, I get answers that refer to the illuminati in general and I have to keep repeating "yes, but the one/ones at the very TOP?" why is this entity/entities doing this? It is a very valid question, but an answer doesen't come easily.

I also agree that most of the illuminati are very ignorant, they are being screwed and twisted into their own dogma, they don't really get the truth.
They seem to worship ego and desire, they think it's ok. However the ones that are manipulating them are knowingly manipulating them into this state knowing it will cause suffering to humanity, and we know they possess "secret" knowledge, knowledge at least very close to the truth, that's why it's secret because if it wasn't it could free humanity. So why with this enlightning knowledge do they want to do this?
Because surely with the knowledge and enlgihtenment they may have, would they not see that control and stealing our energy is nothing in comparasion with being fre and enlightened themselves????
So we can look at Davids theory of sentient programmes, maybe they have all the chakras except the heart chakra? And must do this to sustain themselves? :confused:
It is a very hard question to answer, but an important one.

[yandoo007]

Hey, thanks for reply!

Its good to know others are pondering too!

I think we will find out soon enough and i suppose there sre some things that we arnt suppose to know yet....

otherwise all people woulld remeber previous lives, experiences etc...In all of time throughout human history people still have to wait until they pass over to find the truth!

I suppose if we did know it would take away some of the innocence of the experience. :)

thanks

[maggie]

If we are supposed to get out of chaos then we are gonna have to work our butts off to prove that we are truly from the light.If we are afraid and react to their cruelty then we will stay enslaved.But if we resist and love and help despite what we are feeling we will be free and these forces will vanish.

[amercury]

I think the illuminati have knowledge, but they are not enlightened.
They are cold hearted oppressors, and the secret knowledge they possess is used to keep the masses down.
If they were enlightened they would have no desire to control the world.

[de_shit]

They are the Agent Smiths. They need us to keep the Matrix powered up and charged. One of Ickes books said something along those lines. I'm BitTorrenting all of the Matrix movies so I can learn more on the matter. I will see what they do in the movies and incorporate it into my life. I'm told to do it so Ill benefit somehow, and anything learned I will tell you guys.

[asentinel]

Maybe the prison guards are promised favoured treatment, and do not realise they will be double crossed or are doing it to themselves. And yet maybe the bullies at the apex of the pyramid are not from here, but stuck in fourth dimension and tricking, bluffing others into thinking they are all powerful, and demanding respect and reverence they don't deserve. If and when we evolve there will be no prison to guard. Aren't bullies always afraid everyone will uncover them, expose them. game over.

The trick is to keep the illusion alive, make people willingly give up their power.

[octopusrex]

To sort you out.

[yandoo007]

If they were enlightened they would have no desire to control the world.

Thats what i feel too!

[mountain]

Maybe because they don't really know shit either!

Maybe they're not as "illuminated" as they lead themselves to believe!

Remember, these guys are in ego land.....Freemasons and their whole degrees of masonry, climb the ladder and whoever's at the top is the most knowledgable, of course this is bullshit.

I'd say they are controlling because they fear our potential.

;)

[mountain]

I think the illuminati have knowledge, but they are not enlightened.
They are cold hearted oppressors, and the secret knowledge they possess is used to keep the masses down.
If they were enlightened they would have no desire to control the world.

I totally agree... That's another one of their tactics perhaps... to brainwash us to give them the sensation of feeling enlightened, I suppose. Control freaks and nothing more.

[dedicate]

It's just an idea, but, has anyone considered that there is an ascending evolutionary (spiritual) ladder and a descending or devolutionary ladder. Those on the ascending evolutionary train, will find doing good, protecting life, telling truth, finding truth.. of value.

Those on the devolutionary path survive by taking life, using life, telling lies, etc// .. thus they feed on negativitiy. -- kind of like flys. They are fallen and will continue to fall. This is their nature and it is negative.

[thetonic]

true Illuminati care nothing of money , fancy cars , drugs.. These are all tools of control

true Illuminati are only working for one thing , to harvest your soul

[soglad]

And y'r money! Keep 'em stupid, malnutritioned, dehydrated (and of course, drunk), creatively dead, apathetic and quiet. That's the name of the game :)

They are doing very well.