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theforce
16-11-2007, 07:58 PM
Stunning new high-definition video shows the Earth setting over the Moon's horizon.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEAMQALvDC4&eurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=494213&in_page_id=1965

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_02/SequencePA_800x294.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=494213&in_page_id=1965

the_pale_man
16-11-2007, 08:08 PM
This is by far the best evidence that the moon landing was faked.

You see, the Earth NEVER "rises" over the moon's horizon. This is basic astronomy: the moon takes about the same time to rotate on its own axis and to revolve around the Earth, which is why we always see the same face of the moon from the Earth, which is why we never see the "dark side" of the moon. If you were REALLY on the moon, you'd always see the Earth way up in the sky, and it would never move. The only reason we see the moon rise and set every night here on Earth is because the Earth rotates on its own axis every 24 hours. The moon takes about 28 days to rotate on its own axis, and takes also about 28 days to revolve around the Earth. What the moon landing footage shows is literally, physically IMPOSSIBLE. This logic is flawless.

This simply means that whoever made that fake footage didn't know basic astronomy, or arrogantly (and sadly, rightfully) assumed that the average American/human being didn't know basic astronomy either.

theforce
16-11-2007, 08:08 PM
Very Beautiful :)

theforce
16-11-2007, 08:11 PM
This is by far the best evidence that the moon landing was faked.

You see, the Earth NEVER "rises" over the moon's horizon. This is basic astronomy: the moon takes about the same time to rotate on its own axis and to revolve around the Earth, which is why we always see the same face of the moon from the Earth, which is why we never see the "dark side" of the moon. If you were REALLY on the moon, you'd always see the Earth way up in the sky, and it would never move. The only reason we see the moon rise and set every night here on Earth is because the Earth rotates on its own axis every 24 hours. The moon takes about 28 days to rotate on its own axis, and takes also about 28 days to revolve around the Earth. What the moon landing footage shows is literally, physically IMPOSSIBLE. This logic is flawless.

This simply means that whoever made that fake footage didn't know basic astronomy, or arrogantly (and sadly, rightfully) assumed that the average American/human being didn't know basic astronomy either.


Wow

theforce
16-11-2007, 08:13 PM
This is by far the best evidence that the moon landing was faked.

You see, the Earth NEVER "rises" over the moon's horizon. This is basic astronomy: the moon takes about the same time to rotate on its own axis and to revolve around the Earth, which is why we always see the same face of the moon from the Earth, which is why we never see the "dark side" of the moon. If you were REALLY on the moon, you'd always see the Earth way up in the sky, and it would never move. The only reason we see the moon rise and set every night here on Earth is because the Earth rotates on its own axis every 24 hours. The moon takes about 28 days to rotate on its own axis, and takes also about 28 days to revolve around the Earth. What the moon landing footage shows is literally, physically IMPOSSIBLE. This logic is flawless.

This simply means that whoever made that fake footage didn't know basic astronomy, or arrogantly (and sadly, rightfully) assumed that the average American/human being didn't know basic astronomy either.

What if it was the "moon Camera" that was moving?

theforce
16-11-2007, 08:27 PM
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071107_kaguya_movie_e.html
Better Quality Video

The image shooting was carried out by the onboard high definition television (HDTV) of the KAGUYA, and it is the world's first high definition image data acquisition of the Moon from an altitude about 100 kilometers away from the Moon.

The image taking was performed twice on October 31. Both were eight-fold speed intermittent shooting (eight minutes is converged to one minute.) The first shooting covered from the northern area of the "Oceanus Procellarum" toward the center of the North Pole, then the second one was from the south to the north on the western side of the "Oceanus Procellarum." The moving image data acquired by the KAGUYA was received at the JAXA Usuda Deep Space Center, and processed by NHK.

the_pale_man
16-11-2007, 08:29 PM
Oh, I thought this was the famous Apollo missions "Earth rising" footage, nevermind.

But the Apollo missions "Earth rising" footage IS proof that the whole thing was faked.

theforce
16-11-2007, 08:36 PM
http://i10.tinypic.com/720r81h.jpg

friendsinthesky
17-11-2007, 12:45 AM
Why are we privvy to short footage? Why not more footage of the moon? Why not more footage of space? Why not a live feed to the space station, millions will sign up to view. Nasa could generate billions for their next project.

Nasa tell porky pie lies.


P.S The above video is a re-enactment right? Cause it don't look real to me!

foreverspirit
17-11-2007, 04:42 AM
Why are we privvy to short footage? Why not more footage of the moon? Why not more footage of space? Why not a live feed to the space station, millions will sign up to view. Nasa could generate billions for their next project.

Nasa tell porky pie lies.


P.S The above video is a re-enactment right? Cause it don't look real to me!


Nice one. Thanks!!:cool:

majicdragon
18-11-2007, 02:34 AM
Oh, I thought this was the famous Apollo missions "Earth rising" footage, nevermind.

But the Apollo missions "Earth rising" footage IS proof that the whole thing was faked.


An earth set on the moon would be impossible yes, since the same side of the moon is always facing toward the earth... what you would notice is that the earth is spinning, but since the moon is also spinning around the Earth, the Earth would appear to be spinning at a different rate than the 24 hour period that it takes for the earth to spin once in relation to the sun.

I would also like to say that the moon does get sun on all sides and that there is not just one side of the moon which is always in the dark... there is just one side of the moon which cannot be seen from the Earth.... And so there really is no specific "dark side" of the moon, except maybe the inside. Perhaps the inside of the moon is what Pink Floyd were singing about in "DARK SIDE OF THE MOON"

gorana
18-11-2007, 06:03 PM
I don't know much about astronomy echept stuff i learned in school and cought myself off books at that time, but it is ages since then.

I have one question though, when we look at all these videos "from moon", all of them show more or less curved surface, but.... isn't earth much too small on all these pictures? Isn't earth too far away? Shouldn't earth be like 2-3 times in size than what we see? It is just my thought, but i never tried to do a calculation myself.

Why do i think of it in that way? When we look at moon from here on earth, it is approx an inch big (maybe a little bit smaller), but when we look at that video, moon surface curve is pretty bend, and i think... eratch should be about double or even tripple size. How much bigger is Earth compared to moon?

G.

p.s. I just try to use a logic, which may be wrong....

enave
19-11-2007, 05:50 PM
Oh, I thought this was the famous Apollo missions "Earth rising" footage, nevermind.

LOL. You got owned.

But the Apollo missions "Earth rising" footage IS proof that the whole thing was faked.

Post a link to the famous "Earth rising" footage, or I don't believe you.

(clue: like the Japanese footage posted above, the Apollo stuff is also taken from orbit, so you are setting yourself up to get owned again)

boom
26-01-2008, 03:23 PM
This is by far the best evidence that the moon landing was faked.

You see, the Earth NEVER "rises" over the moon's horizon. This is basic astronomy: the moon takes about the same time to rotate on its own axis and to revolve around the Earth, which is why we always see the same face of the moon from the Earth, which is why we never see the "dark side" of the moon. If you were REALLY on the moon, you'd always see the Earth way up in the sky, and it would never move. The only reason we see the moon rise and set every night here on Earth is because the Earth rotates on its own axis every 24 hours. The moon takes about 28 days to rotate on its own axis, and takes also about 28 days to revolve around the Earth. What the moon landing footage shows is literally, physically IMPOSSIBLE. This logic is flawless.

This simply means that whoever made that fake footage didn't know basic astronomy, or arrogantly (and sadly, rightfully) assumed that the average American/human being didn't know basic astronomy either.


I take it you mean the Apollo footage as later you pointed out that you did. The problem with your claim the footage is fake is you appear not to know that it wasnt taken from a spot on the moon. All Earth-rise footage was taken from a moving spacecraft that was orbiting the Moon. Orbiting the Moon would result in an Earth-rise every two hours as the spacecraft emerges from around the backside of the Moon. Same goes for the Japanese footage.


Technically you could experience an Earth-rise while on the surface too, due to liberation. The Earth doesn't stay still in the sky, but rather does a slow figure of 8. At some places on the moon the earth would be seen to dip down below the horizon and then rise again. Of course Apollo never landed at those spots.

boom
26-01-2008, 03:32 PM
Why are we privvy to short footage? Why not more footage of the moon? Why not more footage of space? Why not a live feed to the space station, millions will sign up to view. Nasa could generate billions for their next project.

Nasa tell porky pie lies.


P.S The above video is a re-enactment right? Cause it don't look real to me!

Have you not heard of NASA TV? You can get it for free on satellite or the net. Hours on end of live footage from space and programs related to space and science.

www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

BTW all the Apollo footage is available on DVD.

moonoodoo
26-01-2008, 03:53 PM
If the apparent earth rise /set was because of the effect of the moving camara. Can someone please explain how the earth falls below the horizon much faster that the distant hills as noted towards the end of the movie.

Also the various stills in the article shows no movement of hills.

In addition why does the apparent earth not rotate, as this is speaded up 8 times there would be at least some rotation or noticible movement of the clouds especially between alleged rise/set.

snoop
26-01-2008, 06:28 PM
i know this is a little off topic but do you not find it hard to believe that just by chance the moon is just the right size and distance from the earth to cause a perfect eclipse.
I think the moon was formed from a piece of the earth that broke away from a meteor hit back when earth was an infant, it just staggers me that its landed in the most perfect position like it was put there by some higher being for us earthlings to ponder years later to see the moon pass so sweetly over the sun.
just a thought . what do you guys think?

boom
26-01-2008, 08:15 PM
i know this is a little off topic but do you not find it hard to believe that just by chance the moon is just the right size and distance from the earth to cause a perfect eclipse.
I think the moon was formed from a piece of the earth that broke away from a meteor hit back when earth was an infant, it just staggers me that its landed in the most perfect position like it was put there by some higher being for us earthlings to ponder years later to see the moon pass so sweetly over the sun.
just a thought . what do you guys think?


The Earth's distance from the Sun is about 400 times the Moon's distance from the Earth. The Sun's diameter is about 400 times the diameter of the Moon. Because these ratios are approximately the same, the sizes of the Sun and the Moon as seen from Earth appear to be approximately the same about 0.5 degree of arc in angular measure. The Moon is slowly getting further away from Earth so we just happen to be living at a time when it appears the same size as the Sun.

pri01
26-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Some fascinating facts I've read about the moon that I would like to share from info presented by William Neil, author of 'How We Were Made'.
Moon diameter =2160 statute miles
At its nearest, surface of moon to surface of earth =216000 miles
Measurement around moons equater = 21600 nautical miles

Lots of other numbers are used to describe the more complicated measurements associated with the moon and its relationship with the earth. Too complicated for me to explain at the moment as I am still reading and learning. If it's true and accurate, I find it absolutely amazing since it can also be associated with the measurement of time. In particular the Mayan calander.

snoop
26-01-2008, 09:55 PM
The Earth's distance from the Sun is about 400 times the Moon's distance from the Earth. The Sun's diameter is about 400 times the diameter of the Moon. Because these ratios are approximately the same, the sizes of the Sun and the Moon as seen from Earth appear to be approximately the same about 0.5 degree of arc in angular measure. The Moon is slowly getting further away from Earth so we just happen to be living at a time when it appears the same size as the Sun.
thanks for the facts "boom" but that still doesn't make it any easier for me to believe that its just coincidence , i mean now i know that the moon is moving away slowly i understand that we humans are on the earth just at the right time to see it. Strange that in known earth history we are the only animals that would appreciate such a phenomenon anyway . Just makes you think eh?

sexi_co
28-01-2008, 06:27 PM
This is by far the best evidence that the moon landing was faked.

You see, the Earth NEVER "rises" over the moon's horizon. This is basic astronomy: the moon takes about the same time to rotate on its own axis and to revolve around the Earth, which is why we always see the same face of the moon from the Earth, which is why we never see the "dark side" of the moon. If you were REALLY on the moon, you'd always see the Earth way up in the sky, and it would never move. The only reason we see the moon rise and set every night here on Earth is because the Earth rotates on its own axis every 24 hours. The moon takes about 28 days to rotate on its own axis, and takes also about 28 days to revolve around the Earth. What the moon landing footage shows is literally, physically IMPOSSIBLE. This logic is flawless.

This simply means that whoever made that fake footage didn't know basic astronomy, or arrogantly (and sadly, rightfully) assumed that the average American/human being didn't know basic astronomy either.

Unless the moon pics were taken during a lunar eclipse on earth?

Very good point tho, one that i had over looked! TY.

:)

boom
28-01-2008, 08:09 PM
thanks for the facts "boom" but that still doesn't make it any easier for me to believe that its just coincidence , i mean now i know that the moon is moving away slowly i understand that we humans are on the earth just at the right time to see it. Strange that in known earth history we are the only animals that would appreciate such a phenomenon anyway . Just makes you think eh?


If you were born in the future when this dosent happen what would you put that down to?