China's own "october surprise"

[dcdave]

CHINA'S OWN "OCTOBER SURPRISE"


According to very good sources I am in contact with, as of October 14-15th, there was a stunning new move made by China, on a full-scale international level, involving the governments of every country in the world.

This move sent terrified US and European leaders and insiders rushing over to Shanghai, begging the Chinese not to continue down this road.

However, China's plan appears to have been incredibly well-designed, with all the classic elements of Sun-Tzu's "Art of War."

It appears that it is now too late for this plan to be stopped.

China has just made it's "kill-shot" move, and they may well have saved the world by doing so.

Apparently no one has been killed in this process, but when I correlate what I'm hearing with what Fulford has said, it does appear that China will push for an international truth tribunal -- though they will apparently not be seeking the death penalty.


RESTORING PROSPERITY

More importantly, by breaking down the corruption of the international financial system, China and her BRIC allies (Brazil, Russia, India, China -- also Argentina and others) can take a leading role in restoring prosperity on this planet.

The saddest thing, which I have heard from many top insiders, is that we already have the capability to desalinate ocean water, green the deserts, eliminate poverty, homelessness, hunger, disease and sickness -- and give everyone a significantly improved lifestyle.

Contrary to the widely-held insider belief that doing this would create a massive "population bomb" that would destroy the planet, the real-world data shows that population growth significantly decreases once people are allowed to develop.

They can even reach zero population growth, as in Japan. These cultures no longer need to have multiple children to ensure their own survival.

Teleportation, time travel, gravity shielding, free energy, matter synthesis, near-instant healing, earthquake and volcano alleviation, stabilizing the Earth's axis -- all this and more is already within our grasp.

The reason why the elite have refused to let these technologies emerge is they fear everyone would become a couch potato -- and their control over this planet would be forever lost.

Nonetheless, it is clear that any attempts to throw off China's plan will be met with significant lethal force.


DON'T SCREW YOUR BUSINESS PARTNERS

You may remember hearing that in 2009, the top insider bankers in the US had to pay China in gold bars for their own bad debts, as an aftermath of the financial fallout from 2008 -- where many derivatives funds like Lehman Brothers spontaneously imploded.

This collapse, according to Fulford, was China's doing: "Why should we be paying you to kill us?"

Once the devastated bankers were finally forced to pay up, after a prolonged period of hemming and hawing, China drilled into the "Good Delivery" bars.

They were made of tungsten, with only a thin layer of gold electroplated on the outside! Completely fake!

This appears to have been when China's plan really kicked into high gear -- but it took some time to develop.


CHINA'S MOVE THROWS THE 'OLD WORLD ORDER' INTO CHAOS

According to Fulford, the international fiscal year ends as of September 30th. This year, the big players covertly running the US and other countries were again unable to pay their debts.

This was the final event that apparently led to the implementation of China's plan.

Fulford has been alluding to something like this in the works from China for some time now.

As others may also have felt, it has been almost exasperating to read his paid blog and hear him tease about something big that China was doing, over and over again -- but then not say what it was, because it was important that he not screw it up or stop it from happening.

With all the reports I'm hearing, I am almost certain that this is what he was talking about -- and they just flipped the switch.

I apologize. I am not stupid. I am definitely not going to get specific, as I do not want to thwart this effort.

However, from what I have heard, the plan was so well-executed I highly doubt there is much that could stop it at this point.

If it works as intended, there should be a time where it can be discussed openly and in detail.


CHICKENS WITH THEIR HEADS CUT OFF

The black-ops community is now literally running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Everyone is telling me the same thing.

It's become chaos. Factions are breaking up. Former allies are now enemies. Former enemies are now friends. Single factions are now fragmenting into multiple, opposing elements.

Fulford has been saying for some time that "One Million Satanists," i.e. members of the Luciferian Illuminati, are seeking amnesty and refuge in various countries -- but no one is willing to shelter them. This also seems centrally related to what I am hearing.

The public summary of Fulford's paid blog from last Sunday -- October 18th -- reads as follows (emphasis added):

"The royal families of the West and the secret Illuminati royalty are planning an emergency summit meeting in Vienna, Austria, next month in order to come up with a strategy to save their plan for a New World Order fascist world government, according to a senior CIA source and a member of the Rothschild family.

The summit is being called because a global police and intelligence operation is closing in on their leadership with multiple investigations on many levels.

It is hard to see how the Bilderbergers, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral commission and their secret rulers are going to escape these probes unless they agree to surrender and promise to appear before a South African style truth and reconciliation committee."


ET INVOLVEMENT

I am also told that certain human ET groups are working behind the scenes, here on the ground, to help ensure various plans succeed. This may include China's plan, though there are others going on as well for similar purposes.

We may never publicly know the details of the ETs' involvement in all of this, unfortunately -- at least not in the beginning.
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start ... osureevent

[disorder2k8]

Of course we can desalinate water, its what we learned in science class at school :confused:

You just boil it off and the moisture and salts separate.

[ferret]

im intregued, but its too vague to get excited about?? have to wait and see as usual....

[nirvanix]

I'm going to get my grains of salt out for this one.

You see once again we're being told that an authority figure is going to solve the problem for us and I don't believe that is going to happen, unless it's a dodge and concealed as a solution which would be a likely scenario from the illuminists. Remember problem, reaction, solution.

They are worried I'm sure, but under this scenario they would get off scot free and then regroup and continue with their plans.

[dcdave]

legal action against illuminati possible this week
Posted by benjamin October 25, 2010 http://benjaminfulford.net/

Events are starting to unfold at an accelerating pace as the ancient “New World Order” continues its collapse. First of all, sources in Japanese military intelligence say there will be “huge announcements” sometime in mid-November, no doubt linked in part to the November 11th G20 meeting in Korea. The other big move is that the $1 trillion lawsuit involving Daniele Dal Bosco, the P2 Freemason lodge, the Davos forum and the UN will be backed by the Pentagon and will become public news possibly as soon as this week. We have also confirmed that all members of the Bilderberger, the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations have been individually warned and are “very scared.” There is very little detail about the November announcements available at present because a high level purge of the top ranks of the Satan worshippers is still underway, according to a dragon family representative. The Japanese military police also refused to provide more detail so, we will just have to wait and see. However, the Dragon family did say they were allied with “good aliens” who were horribly mistreated in the 1940’s and that they have been working on the current coup at a high level for a very long time. Hopefully the announcement will involve the release of suppressed technology. The Pentagon’s ambassador to the White Dragon Society has previously mentioned that according to the American Academy of Science that over 6,000 patents have been suppressed for “national security reasons” and that these patents will now be mostly made available to the general public. The Dragon family also says “we have incredible secret technology at our disposal.” We will just have to wait and see for more details. In a related move, a very senior pentagon official contacted the White Dragon Society last week to say the Pentagon was currently backing President Obama because Obama had begun a systematic purge of Khazarian Satanists from the US government. That means the talk of a temporary military government is on hold for the present. The Khazarians and some members of the Jewish lobby, for their part, have begun an intensive anti-Obama campaign. Obama is expected to receive nothing but negative publicity over the coming months. At the same time, he has become a high priority assassination target, according to multiple sources. The infighting in Washington is expected to intensify over the coming weeks as a powerful lobby will continue its push to replace Obama with Hillary Clinton. Clinton is said to be “desperately doing everything she can to make sure she is a part of the new financial system,” according to a top CIA source. On the more conventional news front, the current leaders of the planet are doing everything in their power to reform and put on a good face. Part of this is the carefully orchestrated Wikileaks campaign that seems to be aimed at showing the old system is capable of dealing with wrong-doings like torture and civilian killing by individual troops. The old order is also clearly willing to throw a few of their own, like Tony Blair, under the bus in an attempt to cleanse their image. The big questions is if Wikileaks is the real deal, then why have they not published “secret documents” about what really happened on 911? The more significant move was to shift the balance of power at the IMF away from Europe. The new IMF voting structure increases representation for Brazil, China, India, Turkey and other developing countries. The voting structure is now such that Japan has the casting vote in-between Western and non-Western interests at the IMF. Discussions on a new currency to replace the US dollar continue and the latest scuttlebutt is that the plan to announce the Amero as a dollar replacement is in serious trouble. It now looks more likely that the Hong Kong dollar will become the basis for a new international currency to replace the dollar. However, the issue is in a flux still and negotiations continue. Japan is also undergoing a major transformation under the surface. Head old world order stooge and North Korean spy Yasuhiro Nakasone is now being hounded for money by all his former allies, according to a yakuza source. “They want to get as much money out of him as possible before it all ends,” the source says. In relation to that Bank of Japan governor Shirakawa has been convinced to stay in office until the end of this year, according to Japanese military intelligence. However, the control of the Japanese financial system has already moved decisively away from the old order, the source says. The Japanese Finance Ministry, and old world bastion of power, has lost power to the Financial Services Agency. People in the ministry who were opposed to the old order were all sent over to the FSA and now the military/police/right-wing/yakuza establishment has put power in the hands of the FSA, the source says. In relation to that the Japanese delegation to the G20 meeting in Seoul in November will be secretly headed by Bank of Japan Deputy Governor Hirohide Yamaguchi. Yamaguchi is the cousin of Akihiko Yamaguchi, the man who was illegally detained in Italy in 2009 with $134.5 billion worth of bonds that were seized by elements of the Italian P2 Freemasonic lodge working in the Italian Treasury Police.

[nirvanix]

As far as I can tell, Benjamin Fulford takes a lot of information readily available from other websites/broadcasts and then distorts it so that somehow he is smack dab in the middle of all these revelations. Seems like everybody from the Vatican to the Federal Reserve are dying to reveal all their secrets to him. Not buying it.

What we do know, even from their own documents, is that the CIA funded and nutured Mao, leading to the overthrow of the status quo, the death of about 75 million people, and the construction of a society that TPTB would like to impose on the rest of the world. There is nothing to lead me to believe that they have relinquished control of the Chinese ruling elite. In fact I believe that they continue to bolster China so that it will become the dominant force replacing America, and their system will become the way of life for the rest of the globe. One child policy, submission and service to the state, etc.

[dcdave]

As far as I can tell, Benjamin Fulford takes a lot of information readily available from other websites/broadcasts and then distorts it so that somehow he is smack dab in the middle of all these revelations. Seems like everybody from the Vatican to the Federal Reserve are dying to reveal all their secrets to him. Not buying it.

What we do know, even from their own documents, is that the CIA funded and nutured Mao, leading to the overthrow of the status quo, the death of about 75 million people, and the construction of a society that TPTB would like to impose on the rest of the world. There is nothing to lead me to believe that they have relinquished control of the Chinese ruling elite. In fact I believe that they continue to bolster China so that it will become the dominant force replacing America, and their system will become the way of life for the rest of the globe. One child policy, submission and service to the state, etc.


Im not looking forward to your vision of tomorrow....Heres something positive,,,,

PEOPLE ARE AWESOME - YouTube

[nirvanix]

Im not looking forward to your vision of tomorrow....

It's not MY vision of tomorrow, it's exactly the one I want to stop. But I want people to think critically so that we can overcome our dilemma. It's fine to gather some data from Fulford, but then you need to use your reasoning to decide what is going on. This bit he's saying about China just doesn't stack up against a reality check. You have to realize that you are being lied to on so many levels that it can be maddening sometimes, but there is a way through it.
Not to say there won't be some type of deception coming out of China with regards to these truth trials, but again it is the same old modus operandi of an authority figure solving your problems for you, and it isn't real. I agree so much with Icke about each conciousness having to awaken to its own abilities and going forward from there. Like he says, humankind get off yer effin' knees!

[dcdave]

It's not MY vision of tomorrow, it's exactly the one I want to stop. But I want people to think critically so that we can overcome our dilemma. It's fine to gather some data from Fulford, but then you need to use your reasoning to decide what is going on. This bit he's saying about China just doesn't stack up against a reality check. You have to realize that you are being lied to on so many levels that it can be maddening sometimes, but there is a way through it.
Not to say there won't be some type of deception coming out of China with regards to these truth trials, but again it is the same old modus operandi of an authority figure solving your problems for you, and it isn't real. I agree so much with Icke about each conciousness having to awaken to its own abilities and going forward from there. Like he says, humankind get off yer effin' knees!

I dont necessarily believe what the man says but like David its a positive message thats all :o

[nirvanix]

I dont necessarily believe what the man says but like David its a positive message thats all :o

No it's not like David at all as far as I can see. Fulford seems positive because he says someone else is going to solve the problem for you. By the way I've been listening to Fulford for about a year on Rense and he's always saying stuff like this, but it never comes true. David's road is not an easy road for most people because it demands that you accept responsibility for you own power and then use it to face the situation we're in. It is the right way and the only way as far as I can see. Sadly, so many people on this forum are looking for either a charismatic leader or fairies and orbs to take care of everything :D

[dcdave]

No it's not like David at all as far as I can see. Fulford seems positive because he says someone else is going to solve the problem for you. By the way I've been listening to Fulford for about a year on Rense and he's always saying stuff like this, but it never comes true. David's road is not an easy road for most people because it demands that you accept responsibility for you own power and then use it to face the situation we're in. It is the right way and the only way as far as I can see. Sadly, so many people on this forum are looking for either a charismatic leader or fairies and orbs to take care of everything :D

Im not one of them been doing my own thing all my life! ps you listened to this cat for a year? yea must of thought well of him to hang out that long!:eek:

[nirvanix]

Im not one of them been doing my own thing all my life! ps you listened to this cat for a year? yea must of thought well of him to hang out that long!:eek:

Good for you on doing your own thing, me too!

I have gathered data from every source imaginable to know what I can know. Rense is a guy that is willing to cover the full spectrum of possibilities on his show which I think is admirable.

[dcdave]

Good for you on doing your own thing, me too!

I have gathered data from every source imaginable to know what I can know. Rense is a guy that is willing to cover the full spectrum of possibilities on his show which I think is admirable.
Yep iv been into him for some time now! just spreading the word thats all man,,
listen to the words,,,

The Word- The Beatles (Rubber Soul) - YouTube

[nirvanix]

Yep iv been into him for some time now! just spreading the word thats all man,,
listen to the words,,,

No, listen to the words and then compare it to other data and then use critical thinking and/or feeling (from the heart) to make sense of it.

[dcdave]

No, listen to the words and then compare it to other data and then use critical thinking and/or feeling (from the heart) to make sense of it.

Yea didn't get the vid i put up?

The Word- The Beatles (Rubber Soul) - YouTube

[nirvanix]

Agreed there, love is the ultimate answer. If the illuminists had love in their heart they wouldn't be doing any of this. From what I've read about their lives they don't receive any love even as a child. Sometimes I wish I could walk up to them and say that I love you from my heart. Maybe it would help.

[dcdave]

Agreed there, love is the ultimate answer. If the illuminists had love in their heart they wouldn't be doing any of this. From what I've read about their lives they don't receive any love even as a child. Sometimes I wish I could walk up to them and say that I love you from my heart. Maybe it would help.

Thats were forgiveness comes in!

[nirvanix]

Yes, I agree with that too. Nevertheless, the point of my posts is that we must use our mind and our greater mind (the heart) to decipher the things around us so that we're not deceived anymore. I think that is the awakening Mr Icke talks about.

[dcdave]

Yes, I agree with that too. Nevertheless, the point of my posts is that we must use our mind and our greater mind (the heart) to decipher the things around us so that we're not deceived anymore. I think that is the awakening Mr Icke talks about.

And what iv been saying for 45 years now.....:cool:

[robdoo]

As hopeful as i am that the criminal elites will answer for their crimes, the thought of the Chinese government being at the head of some type of "Truth Tribunal" is just to far fetched for me.

[dcdave]

As hopeful as i am that the criminal elites will answer for their crimes, the thought of the Chinese government being at the head of some type of "Truth Tribunal" is just to far fetched for me.

But the truth can be far more freaky than lies an untruths...

[nirvanix]

Always take a long look at who is presenting the 'truth' and what motivations they have for doing so.

I'm sure when we get to the bottom of a lot of what's going on with world politics, religion, and history it's going to blow our minds. I think that truth is going to be earned by people that awaken themselves to conciousness.

[steve1964]

good thread

[phemohilia]

Rats!! I thought this was going to be about Chinese food finally being delivered ON TIME!!!! :rolleyes:

[fennellal]

Not in a Million Years with the Bilderbergs or Rothschilds every be brought to account for there Actions behind the tampering of what goes on behind the World Stage .

As to sugest that These groups owe a debt to China is compleat Madness, for the simple reason these groups devised the financial collapse and profited by it to a Vast degree from its collapse.

What is been engineered is a copmleat Global financial collapse which would Hurt China, Russia and the countries mentions opposed to a New World Order and would ultimately bring these Countries into line with what every is desgined to recover afterwards.

Its all Crap nothing is going to happening nor will it ever ......

[dcdave]

Not in a Million Years with the Bilderbergs or Rothschilds every be brought to account for there Actions behind the tampering of what goes on behind the World Stage .

As to sugest that These groups owe a debt to China is compleat Madness, for the simple reason these groups devised the financial collapse and profited by it to a Vast degree from its collapse.

What is been engineered is a copmleat Global financial collapse which would Hurt China, Russia and the countries mentions opposed to a New World Order and would ultimately bring these Countries into line with what every is desgined to recover afterwards.

Its all Crap nothing is going to happening nor will it ever ......

You mean my good fight for the past 40 years was all for nothing?
sorry i cant agree with that defeatist attitude,, i always think there's hope!

[fennellal]

You mean my good fight for the past 40 years was all for nothing?
sorry i cant agree with that defeatist attitude,, i always think there's hope!


Here look ! I pray that some major event will happen to our little world, even if its a 3rd world war, something seriously needs to happen because we can not continue the way we are going ....

But its not going to come like this .... China starting something or UFO intervention or a great catastrophe in November

It can only come from or get better out of the ashes of whats left over after another Great War, when humanity is brought to its Knees and the righteous win through, as the Righteous have not won a War in over a Century that has been proven if we look at the world today and who we have left to play with the strings as we hang like Puppets.

[ambler1980]

But its not going to come like this .... China starting something or UFO intervention or a great catastrophe in November

It can only come from or get better out of the ashes of whats left over after another Great War, when humanity is brought to its Knees and the righteous win through, as the Righteous have not won a War in over a Century that has been proven if we look at the world today and who we have left to play with the strings as we hang like Puppets.

total nonsense. how do you explain all the deactivated missiles that were supposed to blow countries to smithereens? someone is obviously watching over the process...there will be no world war, and the illuminati is already finished, you're just not seeing it out in the open...but it's over and very soon you're going to see some massive changes (before the year is out).

[fennellal]

someone is obviously watching over the process...there will be no world war, and the illuminati is already finished, you're just not seeing it out in the open...but it's over and very soon you're going to see some massive changes (before the year is out).

Somebody watching my ass ! Little green Aliens ? Your watching to much Deep space Nine, star Trek and Growing up with Star Wars would condition you into that way of thinking ........

Or worse are your a member of the church of Scientology and have just bough level three's OT III and now believe in Ronny Hubbards Drug fueled nonsense and Xenu.


As to your reference of the illuminati I seance this comes form reading and believing a bit to much of Dan Brown or you just watched the Movies ! and regard the illuminati as our Puppet Masters where we do all the Work and they engineer how we do it ???

The illuminati do not exist unless you think Rothschilds or the Bilderbergs are one and the same ? if that's the case then your oppression is that of your own Making...

but it's over and very soon you're going to see some massive changes (before the year is out)
Yeah right, I am sure by New Years Eve nothing will have changed and we will pass into another new year, much like we passed into other years gone By.

Like Life itself, we take the Card that we are dealt, but we also Dream of much better things ... much Like what you are doing (Dreaming) Unfortunately its you who need to be woken up, Nothing will Change significantly in your Life time and what does change will not alter how you live your life as each change is insignificant only over a long period of time it can be measured.

War, Pestilence, famine and Bloodshed is the only method of cleaning the canvas of Life as we know it and to start once again from fresh, for something in your life time to be changed significantly and to be measured by you everything you believe in has to be destroyed or taken away from you to do so.

I say to you Dreamer, there is nobody is out there looking out for us, you conditioning has you believing in false prophets be it UFOs or illuminati and if you think a Great Event will change the World for the Better before Christmas or the New Year, then I am Jesus H Christ and now ill go and Die on a Cross to save your pitiful Souls ....

http://www.marianland.com/marxism/True_Professionals.gif

[dcdave]

Somebody watching my ass ! Little green Aliens ? Your watching to much Deep space Nine, star Trek and Growing up with Star Wars would condition you into that way of thinking ........

Or worse are your a member of the church of Scientology and have just bough level three's OT III and now believe in Ronny Hubbards Drug fueled nonsense and Xenu.


As to your reference of the illuminati I seance this comes form reading and believing a bit to much of Dan Brown or you just watched the Movies ! and regard the illuminati as our Puppet Masters where we do all the Work and they engineer how we do it ???

The illuminati do not exist unless you think Rothschilds or the Bilderbergs are one and the same ? if that's the case then your oppression is that of your own Making...


Yeah right, I am sure by New Years Eve nothing will have changed and we will pass into another new year, much like we passed into other years gone By.

Like Life itself, we take the Card that we are dealt, but we also Dream of much better things ... much Like what you are doing (Dreaming) Unfortunately its you who need to be woken up, Nothing will Change significantly in your Life time and what does change will not alter how you live your life as each change is insignificant only over a long period of time it can be measured.

War, Pestilence, famine and Bloodshed is the only method of cleaning the canvas of Life as we know it and to start once again from fresh, for something in your life time to be changed significantly and to be measured by you everything you believe in has to be destroyed or taken away from you to do so.

I say to you Dreamer, there is nobody is out there looking out for us, you conditioning has you believing in false prophets be it UFOs or illuminati and if you think a Great Event will change the World for the Better before Christmas or the New Year, then I am Jesus H Christ and now ill go and Die on a Cross to save your pitiful Souls ....

http://www.marianland.com/marxism/True_Professionals.gif

Here we have a man of no dreams no hope an no compassion and very little vision!

[fennellal]

I beg to differ !

Like Religion you are Believe in things you can not see or know 100% for sure they even exist, UFOs have not made them selves available for any comments to date nor has there ever been any Documented intervention in Human Civilization with UFOs.

So to suggest that UFOs are are looking over us is only theoretical

If there has been no Physical connection based with any Facts (not conjecture) its theoretical.

Predictions of a great World Changing event to take place before the New Year once again theoretical.

To believe that a secret organization from 1776 that being the Illuminati still conducts and Pulls the strings of each of the Sovereign Country across the Globe even today and suggest that 50 years of Capitalism was there making and that we are all subjects of the Illuminati in our every day Lives is once again only theoretical.



Again every thing you mentioned is the exact same as Religion, we cant see it but we are conditioned to believe in it !!!

Wake up and Live your Life as it is Now, What you are Dreaming is nothing more than (Its Greener on the other side) But that day will not come, and if it did it would come with New issues and Problems possibly worse than what we have now.....

But Worse of all we have those of you who believe in theoretical subject matter much like Religion which is all founded without any Foundation what so ever and you object when someone (I) point out the Truth , theoretical subjects can not be proven and should not be opinionated as truth.

[dcdave]

I beg to differ !

Like Religion you are Believe in things you can not see or know 100% for sure they even exist, UFOs have not made them selves available for any comments to date nor has there ever been any Documented intervention in Human Civilization with UFOs.

So to suggest that UFOs are are looking over us is only theoretical

If there has been no Physical connection based with any Facts (not conjecture) its theoretical.

Predictions of a great World Changing event to take place before the New Year once again theoretical.

To believe that a secret organization from 1776 that being the Illuminati still conducts and Pulls the strings of each of the Sovereign Country across the Globe even today and suggest that 50 years of Capitalism was there making and that we are all subjects of the Illuminati in our every day Lives is once again only theoretical.



Again every thing you mentioned is the exact same as Religion, we cant see it but we are conditioned to believe in it !!!

Wake up and Live your Life as it is Now, What you are Dreaming is nothing more than (Its Greener on the other side) But that day will not come, and if it did it would come with New issues and Problems possibly worse than what we have now.....

But Worse of all we have those of you who believe in theoretical subject matter much like Religion which is all founded without any Foundation what so ever and you object when someone (I) point out the Truth , theoretical subjects can not be proven and should not be opinionated as truth.

You see the trouble is you haven't seen evidence of all you say above!
but i beg to differ, because iv seen 15 Ufos with my own eyes an iv seen enough on film to convince me there real! also iv seen enough evidence to know that the Planet is run by less than 300 men an we call them TPTB! look it up!
PS i cant for the like of me understand why a skeptic like you would be interested in joining a forum like this one.