Loose Change Final Cut

[charles d ward]

Loose Change Final Cut

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2035108967536002048

[revolutionary_jam]

sweet

[masonfree party]

By CB_Brooklyn


Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."


There are three basic versions of the 9/11 events. Although differences and/or overlapping may occur, the following three versions generally describe what most people believe:


1. OGCT. This is known as the “Official Government Conspiracy Theory”. This version states that a guy from a cave in Afghanistan conspired with 19 boxcutter-wielding Muslims to hijack airplanes, outwit the USA’s entire multi-trillion dollar defense system, and cause the Twin Towers to collapse. This is the version pushed by the government and media as being the truth of 9/11.

2. APCT. I call this the “Alternate Propaganda Conspiracy Theory”. This version states that, more or less, there were hijackings on 9/11, but the planes might have been taken under remote control to ensure they crashed as planned. Airplanes most likely crashed at the Pentagon and Shanksville, but planes definitely did crash into the Twin Towers. The Twin Towers and WTC 7 collapsed from conventional explosives and thermite, and molten metal was found in the rubble. This is the version pushed by the government and media as being the “wacko conspiracy theory” that the “truth movement” believes.

3. REAL. This, simply, is the REAL version, backed by actual evidence, Laws of Physics, and common sense: There were no hijackings, no plane crashes, the corporate media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane impacting the South Tower, and the WTC complex (not just the Towers and WTC 7) was destroyed with Directed Energy Weapons (DEW). The government and media steer clear of these.



Refer to the Lenin-credited quote above.

Is it possible the “truth movement” has been run by the 9/11 perpetrators since day one?

Is it possible that certain individuals have been planted to steer the “truth movement” away from the perpetrators? Is it possible these plants have affiliations with directed energy weapons (DEW)?

Is it even possible that some of these plants are “in on it” while others got suckered in? You be the judge.

[phantom]

I have just finished downloading Loose Change Final Cut from rapidshare and will be sticking it onto a few DVD's tonight and pass them out among friends. :)

[informationx]

Just watched the whole movie. Thanks for posting. There were a few things I would of liked to see in it, but overall it was not bad.

[dave52]

Just watched the whole movie. Thanks for posting. There were a few things I would of liked to see in it, but overall it was not bad.

I was disappointed. They played it really, really safe. I can see why they did it, to pull in a new, uninitiated audience, but ahh... I don't know. I guess it reflects where the mainstream truth movement is today. They're becoming more like a political movement than a truth movement.

[helloperator]

I've just been at the imdb boards reading a few entries....I was amazed to find people who still believe the official story and defend it to the hilt.

Really, I can't believe that

[tothestars]

I've just been at the imdb boards reading a few entries....I was amazed to find people who still believe the official story and defend it to the hilt.

Really, I can't believe that

You sure that it is just "normal" people defending the official story?

There are a lot of disinfoagents and other illuminatipuppets out there you know.

[bhoca_jr]

I was disappointed. They played it really really safe. I can see why they did it to pull in a new, uninitiated audience, but ahh... I don't know. I guess it reflects where the mainstream truth movement is today. They're becoming more like a political movement than a truth movement.



That's the best way to do it !

Strength in numbers and togetherness is the only way the truth movement can yield any results against a global cosanostra who have grown and galvanised over GENERATIONS of time to form such a potent threat to the subjects they have fed on and controlled since the begging of civilisation. We have to fight for what freedoms they allow us !

Elite families across the world have gathered around the giant craps table since forever now they have joined to share the spoils rather than fight over them .

The first plans for a NWO were hatched and carried out long ago. A popular movement for change in the world inspired by science and intellect has now evolved into a psychopathic elite who seek to dominate and control populations. A world once divided by realms and kingdoms , controlled mainly by religion and feudalism , was to be reformed into countries lead by parliamentary dictatorships and controlled by central banking systems that can be easily manipulated by the illuminated ones. Not all kingdoms were forth coming and fought hard to "kill the bank" or "crush the uprising" but never the less ( controlled ) revolution was the catalyst for change across the globe as was the case here in Britain . Men and women who had a vision of the world that mankind could be raised from the mud and educated and utilised in a way that would be more beneficial to those who find themselves at the very top.

Now that they have what they worked so hard to achieve , its time for NWO 2.0 to be installed. The realms and kingdoms have all but fallen , those kings and queens willing to join them remain although nothing more than monuments to the old world . The seeds are sewn for world empire , now is the time to watch them grow....

For centuries these people have been the capstone of civilisation . For so long that its probably impossible for them to be removed . The problem however is that after all this time has passed and the families who find themselves at the top of this system begin to delude themselves with masterrace fantasies , foolishly believing that this is the natural order of things. That they are the next step in the evolution of mankind. By engaging in eugenics programs or inter breeding they foolishly believed that in doing so they would create superior intellectual beings able rule over planet earth forever more. This may prove to be their undoing .

Or maybe they have evolved back into lizards : (( ( ffs )



Talk of no planes and DEWs is frankly ridicules and does no one any favours when we're trying to get the truth out. We have to make things hard for the NWO not easier , so we can carve ourselves ( the pleads ) a place on earth beside them if we can't remove them.

I'm afraid that this is the big test for our generation and how much of this system are we willing to fight for ?


They are trying to install a new system of control that is easier and more efficient for them to manage so if we lie back and allow ourselves to be dumbed down and de humanised even further we could end up with a human race of drones lead by complete nutters ....

[helloperator]

You sure that it is just "normal" people defending the official story?

There are a lot of disinfoagents and other illuminatipuppets out there you know.

Well personally, on imdb, at the comments forum...I fucking dount it mate. Disinfo agents and all that crap. Fuck it, why would they bother at the shitfucking house imdb forums? It;s just some morons who think they know the fucking lot

all I know is that in this life in this body my job is to live through hell. so what the fuck would I know

[veritas2007]

Its a complete rehash of the original but I liked the way it dealt with the facts.

You can see the influence of Alex Jones in this final cut.

[john white]

They're becoming more like a political movement than a truth movement.


Truth is the ultimate politics Dave: I'm suprised you havnt understood that a lot earlier

Why else do you think Socrates was told to drink hemlock or bugger off?

Keeping it real (Loose Change Final Cut) isnt "playing it safe" at all: It's keeping it dangerous

[dave52]

I know what you're saying John... If you watch the three LCs back to back, you can see them getting safer and safer. I know why they're doing it, but I think if you water it down too much it'll just get lost... It looks like something that Michael Moore would do. All well and good, I like MM, he's raised a lot of good points, but we're still gonna fuck Iran.

[chandrakavi]

I hope it gets seen all over the world.
If not people will have to wait 5 years to see it on TV, not now.

[helloperator]

Been talking to some real believers of the official story. Links left right and centre including links to pro demo guys saying wtc7 was clearly not a pro demo job...etc.

Anyway I was thinking that for me it was quite a turn around in my head to change what I thought and see 911 as an 'inside job' for want of a better term.

These pro official story guys obviously find making a change to be very hard.

Then I thought, wow, what if it wasn't an inside job. Could I handle my perceptions changing again? I mean from knowing nothing...to believing inside job...to back to believing official story.

These believers of the official story have links and 'proof' coming out their ears. They are extremely well versed in mocking tactics...snide and smug comments and in rocking your beliefs.

I find it very frustrating.

Now we are divided like Jon Heder and Wil Ferrel in Blades of Glory....but we'll never unite like they did...because unlike in movies...we don't want some other dude's crotch in our face.

[horror]

@masonfree party
i agree to the 3 rd claim of brooklyn, exept the energy weapon thing .
media faked the planes 100% , and i m sure avery and alex jones and most of the other leaders are just disinfo agents.

as u know cb_brooklyn is judy wood and in my opinion she is disinfo herself , her claims are not prooveble and whoever learn something about tv fake planes he will be mixed up with her.
i think she is claiming stupid things to make it look like an idiocy to believe in no planes.
call it tv fakery and u can see clearly in the broadcasted footage all the proof u need.
contradictions in flight paths , missing buildings in manhattan sky line etc. . .

watch some parts of september clues and think about why avery or alex jones are claiming tv fakery is bs

[steevo]

@masonfree party
i agree to the 3 rd claim of brooklyn, exept the energy weapon thing .
media faked the planes 100% , and i m sure avery and alex jones and most of the other leaders are just disinfo agents.

Which other "leaders" are you sure are disinfo agents ?

[veritas2007]

I have to say, I get a little frustrated when people start bandying around the "disinfo agent" phrase.

Who cares? What can these "disinfo agents" do? Concentrating on them just gets in the way of discovering the truth. We have all woken up to the lies we've been fed all our lives and these "disinfo agents" did nothing to change our minds, did they?

The truth wants to be found and it will be. Don't get bogged down in this negative finger pointing.

/rant

[graflok]

I don't see how one can seek truth without being mindful of lies.

[veritas2007]

I don't see how one can seek truth without being mindful of lies.

I absolutely agree, but you discern between the truth and the lie and move on.

[graflok]

I absolutely agree, but you discern between the truth and the lie and move on.

Meaning...?

[veritas2007]

Meaning...?

Meaning, one should not be distracted from the truth. If there are those who deliberately try to obscure the way ahead; simply identify the lie, sidestep it and move on. So often you read threads on these forums which are hijacked, not by a difference of opinion but the pursuit of exposing the person who suggested the difference.

It is divide and conquer tactics and we shouldn't let ourselves be dragged into it.

[graflok]

Meaning, one should not be distracted from the truth. If there are those who deliberately try to obscure the way ahead; simply identify the lie, sidestep it and move on. So often you read threads on these forums which are hijacked, not by a difference of opinion but the pursuit of exposing the person who suggested the difference.

It is divide and conquer tactics and we shouldn't let ourselves be dragged into it.

Thank you but I still don't see what this has to do with people posting about disinfo.
You seem to object to discussions about it.

[veritas2007]

Thank you but I still don't see what this has to do with people posting about disinfo.
You seem to object to discussions about it.

Discussion and debate is healthy. When it turns into an ad hominem argument though, it gets very unsavory, kills a thread and wastes everyone's time. It comes up in here time and time again :(

[graflok]

When it turns into an ad hominem argument though, it gets very unsavory, kills a thread and wastes everyone's time. It comes up in here time and time again :(

Oh, like what you're doing now. I get it. ;)

[veritas2007]

Oh, like what you're doing now. I get it. ;)

You asked the questions, I simply answered. If your intent was to antagonise, then bravo.

I'm interested in seeking the truth; sometimes its like wading through treacle and there are obstacles to overcome. If people are commenting on IMDB with the official version, its an interesting insight to what people's beliefs are on the subject however, speculating on their motivations is irrelevant.

[graflok]

I was only trying to reconcile your comments with the topic of this thread.
Your original post, which you yourself labeled a rant, was:

I have to say, I get a little frustrated when people start bandying around the "disinfo agent" phrase.

Who cares? What can these "disinfo agents" do? Concentrating on them just gets in the way of discovering the truth. We have all woken up to the lies we've been fed all our lives and these "disinfo agents" did nothing to change our minds, did they?

The truth wants to be found and it will be. Don't get bogged down in this negative finger pointing.

/rant

I have no intention of antagonizing anyone. I was simply curious why you get
frustrated when the phrase "disinfo agent" is mentioned and what it has to
do with the topic of this thread. Your post appears to criticize another poster
for using a phrase and it seems rather antagonistic to me. And, if anything it
seems you are the one who took this thread off topic by bringing up
this criticism in the first place.

In any case, to return to the topic, I bought a copy of the new Loose Change
DVD and watched it over the weekend. I think it's quite good.