Dennis Kucinich for president!-Watch this...

[barbitone]

Check out this music clip with Dennis Kucinich speaking about his vision for America and the world.I highly recommend at least watching this...
Has anyone heard of this guy?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=P7k22INzIGY


The beats are very good too.:D

[rynath]

He's a democratic congressman from Ohio. For a politician he makes a lot of sense.

http://www.dennis4president.com/home/

Dennis and his wife Elizabeth:

http://www.dennis4president.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=37&page=inline&id=15&catid=1&limitstart=4

http://www.dennis4president.com/meet-elizabeth/

Thx for the vid I enjoyed that ;)

[chris]

You might find this funny...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oGIaEnZQfMA

He's a nice guy but that's about it, he's not a politician, just a nice guy. He is against the war which makes him a lot better than all the other Democratic candidates (other than Gravel) but he just doesn't understand how he's speaking out against big businesses yet his solutions are more big businesses and government monopolies.

He thinks he can protects us from ourselves and introduced the worst attacks on the 2nd amendment which would literally cause a civil war.

He wants to steal the poors money to pay the maximum price for healthcare, rather than leaving the cash to people who will take care of it (the people) and focussing on driving down costs across the board (which will not discriminate against any race or class).

He's way out of his depth when it comes to politics and when you've served, you should be on the ball. Ron Paul is the only guy who has any clue out of all GOP and democratic candidates.

[revolutionary_jam]

He's way out of his depth when it comes to politics and when you've served, you should be on the ball. Ron Paul is the only guy who has any clue out of all GOP and democratic candidates.

Dude this is shit! How is privatising EVERYTHING different from fascism? it will basically result in a few giant corporations owning everything and no one will be able to "Vote With Their Wallet" because ethical goods simply wont be available under such a monopoly

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich need to come together and find the right compromise between their economic positions

I wish people would stop making fun of Kucinich for the UFO thing >.< So what? Big Deal

He's a great guy he's so passionate and even if you don't agree with all his policies he really believes that they would make the world better, he really cares for people

[chris]

Dude this is shit! How is privatising EVERYTHING different from fascism?

I don't get how people think socialism is somehow different to fascism (from the poor persons point of view). Yet you say privatisation in the New Labour sense, not in the true freemarket sense, why mix them up? They are totally different.

The biggest corporations in the world were and are under communist regimes, do you think the NHS would be the largest corporation in Europe if it had not been for the governments backing of them? Do you think Treuhandanstalt would be able to become the largest coroporation in the world if it had not been for the skin of the East Germans backs?

The only problem with privatisation today is the fact that what they call privatisation is not privatisation, it's not decentrallising, it is centralising...Only that the governments are bowing down to the corporation in this corporatist takeover. They are calling this privatisation because people don't understand who holds the real power, if you look at who they are giving their monopolies to, it is further up the pyramid.

If you were to open up the markets fully and completely then the large corporations will find it a lot harder to keep control of their monopolies because of all the competition created. If the markets truly are free then even the smallest businesses will be able to prosper as long as their is a gap in the market and since the market will be opened then there will be much larger spaces to fill. With driven down costs and no income tax it will make it easy to delve into and try out new ventures and if things don't work out then your not going to have your home taken away. Very far from fascism.


it will basically result in a few giant corporations owning everything and no one will be able to "Vote With Their Wallet" because ethical goods simply wont be available under such a monopoly

The only way a company gets a monopoly when everything else is equal is that they are much better than the others, if they decided to slip then people will change. It is only this socialist liberal viewpoint that seems to have caught onto the evil corporation bandwagon yet fail to realise that the government is at weakest an extremely large corporation that has the power to do untold damage to their people. Yet because the government doesn't have a nice symbol it means they are trust worthy and will protect the people from the evil corporations.

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich need to come together and find the right compromise between their economic positions

I wouldn't touch Dennis with a 10meter pole if I was Ron...He's trying as hard as possible to make himself appealing to the disenchanted would-be ex neocon cheerleaders, why would he want to go off with the most liberal of all the candidates (in the eye's of the public).

I wish people would stop making fun of Kucinich for the UFO thing >.< So what? Big Deal

I wasn't making fun of him by putting that link down. That video made me respect him a lot more, as I said I like the guy. He's true, I don't think he's a shill but he will be played easier than Ronald Reagan, they already co-opted his goodness for him to write that gun legislation bill, he is a global warming puppet (though I don't believe he knows it), he just will do what is good rather than what is right.

He's a great guy he's so passionate even if you don't agree with all his policies he really believes that they would make the world better, he really cares for people

Though I agree, I don't think that is close to enough as I said, nice guy.

Although I don't like the way Dennis has tried to manipulate the 9/11 truth movement by pretending they are doing something about 9/11 when really they just want some of the crazy support it might yield them. Though they have found we do not bite until they produce, they have not produced and are now going off the idea.

[bz029]

Ok so Dennis has a bad view on gun control, he's not perfect.

Regarding healthcare, the money is already there! Not only is it already there, but Dennis would also cut the defense budget which is FREAKING HUGE! (I think it's in the 40th percentile of the whole budget).

As far as I can tell you are right, he's an average guy from the working class.

I want to know if he or his wife have ANY connection to any bloodlines that should worry us. If he has any connection to the council on foreign relations, to AIPAC, etc.

I am begging people to show me bad things about dennis, cuz as it stands now I'm actually going to vote for him.

All i have been able to find on the net is paranoid people claiming he's part of the agenda because of his view on guns. Problem, Reaction, Solution get rid of guns... but I have yet to see any detailed analysis or factual evidence showing he is on agenda with the NWO.

I did find this as well, but I can't confirm if that is an illuminati handshake or not
http://drfong.blogspot.com/2007/10/stephen-colbert-dennis-kucinich-secret.html

[dondaz]

Hi barbitone. I've seen his name around the internet, but this is the first time I've seen or heard him.

Tell me anyone, is this guy a Democrat by anychance?

[dondaz]

Yes he's a democrat. Fuck!

Is he the dems answer to Ron Paul?

Just a fucking coincidence dear...

I'm going to look into this guy.

[aurora025]

He is a fake:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=36719

[chris]

Is he the dems answer to Ron Paul?

He's no where near in the same league as Ron Paul. Dennis does what he thinks is right, not what is best for the country. I don't know what is worse, a self-righteous christian in the whitehouse or a self-righteous hippy...

[revolutionary_jam]

He is a fake:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=36719



wow he put up two fingers that must make him a fake, because you know, everyone that puts up the V knows where it originated :rolleyes:

[adimon]

I am begging people to show me bad things about dennis, cuz as it stands now I'm actually going to vote for him.

You're not going to get a chance to. He has absolutely no chance whatsoever.

[dondaz]

Dennis does what he thinks is right, not what is best for the country. I don't know what is worse, a self-righteous christian in the whitehouse or a self-righteous hippy...

All self-righteous people are really ego tripping deluded morons. Why do they always think they know what's good for us?

Ron Paul for President 2008

[revolutionary_jam]

Dennis Kucinich.... ..

* Voted against a bill that enables Bush to attack Iran (Hillary voted for
it, Obama skipped the vote)

* Has no corporate strings - takes money only from individuals & works for
the people

* Organized 125 Congressmen to vote against the 2002 resolution to
authorize force in Iraq *

* Voted against the Patriot Act which stripped us of our rights*

* Supports withdrawing from NAFTA and the WTO which take away our jobs*

* Has called for impeachment of the Vice President AND the President *

* Stands for a NOT FOR PROFIT health care system, Medicare for All *

* Does Not Belong To The CFR - Council On Foreign Relations - a shadow
government that oversees governance of the United States for the international
money power. Corporate members include Halliburton of Dubai. All presidential
candidates are members and work for the corporate elite, except Kucinich,
Gravel and Paul.


* Plans immediate withdrawal of all U.S. forces from Iraq; replacing them
with an international security force

* Received the Gandhi Peace Award for his dedication to a more peaceful world


* Proposed a Department of Peace and Non-violence to promote national and
international conflict
prevention and structured mediation of conflict (Dept. of Defense is just a
nice name for Dept. of War)


* Works for environmental renewal and clean energy

* Researches the issues and reads the bills before he votes - he votes by
the facts instead of by "briefings"

* Has The Courage To Speak Out Against What Is Wrong

* Opposes the _H-1B_ (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ H-1B_visa) and _L-1 visa_
(http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ L-1_visa) Programs since they cause jobs to
be lost and wages to be lower


* Opposes the privatization of social security

* Supports full social security benefits at age 65

* Was a lone voice in the House as he urged moderation and diplomacy in
dealing with Iran

(16 intelligence agencies revealed with "a high degree of confidence" that
Iran halted work on nuclear weapons projects in 2003. Other candidates said
before: 'Iran must be stopped at all cost." They base their votes on
unreliable briefs instead of researching the facts.)

* Forced a floor vote, using his right of personal privilege, when Speaker
Pelosi blocked Judiciary Committee hearings on the bill to impeach Cheney.

* Plans a swift return to constitutional democracy via the immediate repeal
of the notorious â€,,Patriot Actâ€�

* Fosters a world of international cooperation

* Introduced reforms to bring about instant-runoff voting

* Protects a woman's right to choose while decreasing the number of
abortions performed in the U.S

* Was elected to be the youngest mayor of a major city in the U.S. and
despite huge pressures to cave in he stood for the interests of the people of
Cleveland. At the time he was ridiculed for opposing the sale of a municipal
electricity facility, but he saved over $195 million and several hundred union
jobs. We need leaders who can stand up to big money.


* Has the guts to vote his principles

* Spoke to over 150 academicians, journalists and politicians in Syria
where he presented his new security doctrine. "Strength through Peace turns the
neoconservative doctrine of Peace through Strength on its head. The neo-cons'
Peace through Strength, has led to unilateralism, military build up and
illegal war." Kucinich told the packed audience, "Strength through Peace favors
the upholding of international law, treaties and direct engagement, which is
why I am here" Kucinich added.

* Said "I believe that through direct communication there is new hope for
peace," he said. "The world is ready to fall in love with America again. It is
important that America reaches out to show our true values, our compassion and
our willingness to work for peace."


* Favors Guarding Our Country Over Policing The World

* Has Faced Tremendous Opposition With Dignity.

* Is For The Bill Of Rights

* Is Against The Creation Of A Surveillance Society

* Opposed The War In Iraq From The Beginning

* Is Willing To Listen And Reason With Others.

* Believes in Freedom Of Speech

* Believes In Individual Rights

* Does Not "Move With The Herd"

* Is Optimistic

* Values The Traditions That Have Kept Us Free.

* Will speak for the citizens of this country, not for the interests of the
top 1% who increasingly own and run everything.

[adimon]

Great post. Thanks Rev Jam for an excellent summary! :)

[revolutionary_jam]

I don't get how people think socialism is somehow different to fascism (from the poor persons point of view). Yet you say privatisation in the New Labour sense, not in the true freemarket sense, why mix them up? They are totally different.

Thats because you mean socialism in the stalinist (fascist) sense not in the true decentralisation of power and emphasis on the community sense, why confuse the two?


The free market allows for people to accumulate as much property (above and beyond what they personally can use) as they can get their greedy mits on, and then have the cheek to charge people rent for a basic human need - somewhere to live. In otherwords the free market gives you the right to enslave others - do no work and get the money that they earn for their work.

Under the c(r)apitalist system you can own as much of as many companies as you want and get dividends for their profits, again MONEY FOR DOING NO WORK, enslaving others!

My vocational occupation is as a piano teacher but as I don't have enough students yet and so I also work 16 hours a week in a newsagent, one of a chain. Even though I know from working there they could easily afford to pay me twice what they do I'm on minimum wage. Why? Because the shareholder, who does no work, is god - the consumer is way down the pecking order at second - and the employee is just another resource to be exploited.

The aim of every company is to make as much profit as possible by compete for market share by delivering the product cheapest...
And what corporations are going to be able to provide the cheapest products? The corporations which are least socially conscious, pay their staff least, outsource, exploit the third world for cheap labour, have no qualms about abusing the environment to make products cheaper, etc. etc. ad infinitum

In other words :- It's all a matter of who fucks who first

Wow the free market is great Chris!

[revolutionary_jam]

Best thing that could ever happen in politics:
http://www.youtube.com/v/bjaMLuOpj38&rel=1&border=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/By_zxa1qnj4&rel=1&border=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/oJcnoDfFWhM&rel=1&border=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/A6WfgL_ezPE&rel=1&border=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/Qx9a4hNeIRo&rel=1&border=1


left and right unite

[danielg]

He opposes nuclear power as not being clean... clearly he is a shill. Even a lot of envionmentalists are backing nuclear power, as it will, in the near future, be entirely clean fusion generated energy. Without nuclear energy we are fucked... this 'renewable/sustainable' bullshit has to be exposed.

True, he sounds better than Ron Paul on some social issues... but opposing nuclear power is anti-science and a genocidal policy, straight out of Agenda 21. He supports, and has been present at UN Sustainable Development meetings - ? That policy is anti-science, anti-cognition and anti-human, all sold as saving the planet.

He 'demands labels on genetically engineered foods', wtf, ban them outright!

I've only checked him out for 5 minutes, he screams of being a shill, for gods sake, have some discernment. They are giving you heros and you're lapping up their bullshit like it is the elixir of life.

The ONLY person I hear with all the right policies, socially, spiritually, economically and politically is Larouche, and he doesn't get any media attention whatsoever.

Anyways I'm off to bed, this will be continued.... ffs! :mad:

[irak]

psst ppsst YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.:o


:eek: :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[lizzy]

He's no where near in the same league as Ron Paul. Dennis does what he thinks is right, not what is best for the country. I don't know what is worse, a self-righteous christian in the whitehouse or a self-righteous hippy...


I'd go with Dennis the hippy, except I think Clinton has been told by NWO that she can have it.
But I don't vote now.
happy new year.

[the obliterati]

I think the UFO thing is the cool thing about Kucinich.

[damagedbrainn]

He also proposed the "Space Preservation Act"......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Preservation_Act

.......which would have banned the use and development of all spaced-based and "exotic" weapons systems, such as:

" (2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space."

[revolutionary_jam]

Dennis is the one calling for the impeachment of Dick Cheney, he even put a bill through congress to Impeach him - Which Ron Paul is not endorsing, which I think is shameful, and there is no excuse for that!

He opposes nuclear power as not being clean... clearly he is a shill.

clearly you are full of shit

Nuclear energy IS NOT CLEAN, it is one of the most horrible energy sources in the world!



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Nuclear Energy vs. Conservation of Energy


Conservation of Energy betters producing more every time, and there are many ways in which conservation measures be integrated at little or no inconvenience at all.

Here is some information on Nuclear as a means of energy production:

- First of all, nuclear power was not introduced to produce energy as such, it was introduced in the 50s as a front for producing plutonium for nuclear weapons and offset the cost. It's proven time and time again to be the most expensive form of energy production.

- Doubts as to whether carbon emissions are the cause of global warming aside - the anti-greenhouse argument for nuclear energy is very weak. Students have found that every pound spent on energy efficiency saves seven times as much carbon as every pound spent on nuclear power.

- Fossil fuel energy is needed to mine the uranium and transport it, produce the cement and transport it, build the reactor, deal with the waste and many other things. The processes of purifying what comes out the ground (which is becoming increasingly inpure) requires processes which create a lot of carbon emissions. This totals around 250,000 tonnes carbon dioxide per reactor per year, according to Nigel Mortimer, an energy analyst.

- Mining for the fuel is an environmental disaster which has destroyed the lands of native peoples like American Indians and Aboriginies. As supplies become rarer and rarer more sites need to be located for aquiring it at the expense of natural landscapes and indigenous peoples.

- Plutonium 239, just one of the bi-products of nuclear energy, has a half-life of 24,400 years - 4 times longer than recorded history! It could takes over 500,000 years for even a small quantity of it to become harmless. The lethal dosage is a thousandth of a gram.

I hope this sways you towards the belief that nuclear is not the answer. Consuming less is the answer, because (contrary to popular belief) it doesn't need to be at the expense or inconvenience of anyone, here are some examples:

- Did you know that many appliances such as TVs, fridges and toasters could be 75-90% more efficient but there is no legislation, tariff or subsidy to encourage this?
Electrical appliances should be made as efficient as possible or face financial penalties.

- In 1993 the book Energy Without End by Michael Flood featured a house built in British Columbia, which has a climate similar to South England, that received an Annual Electric Heating Bill (albeit in 1986) of £12. It was four times the size of an average British house.
What is the best way to eliminate hypothermia which kills many older people in their own homes evey winter? To produce more energy at great cost and hope they can afford it or to insulate their houses so that they retain heat at less expense? The government should spend money on grants for insulation instead of nuclear power.

- More heat is thrown away from our powerstations every year than is generated by the entire production of North Sea gas every year. Most of the potential heat is poured into the sky as flue gases and steam. Instead this "waste steam" could be piped in order to heat homes an workplaces! Thats energy efficient in two ways, also saving on seperate energy being used in heating.

- Waste oil from nearly 3 million car oil changes in Britain is not collected and a litre of oil can pollute a million litres of fresh drinking water. If this oil was collected properly it could meet the annual energy needs of 1.5 million people according to the Scottish Oil Care Campaign.

- Energy efficiency also creates more jobs. The Association for the Conservation of Energy estimate that 81,000 jobs could be created in Scotland alone by "a comprehensive programme of energy efficiency and training."

[revolutionary_jam]

Dennis is out

[rynath]

"The corporatization of thought, the militarization of thought seperates us from our higher nature...seperates us from who we really are."

"We have incredible, inventive genius in this country, how much of it goes to weapon production?"

"We're not locked in."

All I can say is I hope he has the opportunity to run again because once again my vote just became completely useless.

[revolutionary_jam]

:/ he let me down, he's not even endorsing Gravel

[rynath]

When asked why he was the only one who voted down the Patriot Act after 911 his response was...

"Because I read it."

That's just classic.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHE

[revolutionary_jam]

watch this btw

Boycott the MSNBC Democratic Debate On Tuesday - YouTube

http://www.lasvegassun.com/videos/2008/jan/16/74/