Welcome to NAZI UK.

[joy division]

I am writing from the capital of the New Nazi Germany.

I of course was not alive in them times, well not in this body/life but i have a feeling that this country is not much different to how Germany was pre Nazi Rule.

The country is being FLOODED, and i mean FLOODED with so many immigrants that the country is going to collapse. There is not enough work to go round, and the work that is available to the average joe is normally about £5.50 per hour which aint enough to wipe my arse with if you know what i mean.

Immigration is Keeping the Wage that low as for e.g, Polish people earn this but its worth double or more to them back home(I have nothing against people trying to better themselves) and this keeps people here down in the shit!

Inflation on every thing apart from the WAGES!!!


Soon enough, maybe not for a good few years or so a party like the BNP will get into power by default of us being pushed into a corner and well, we know what happens next.

:mad:


Forgot to add the Blatant Police/Big Brother State that has sprinted in at full speed too.

[emma royds]

I am writing from the capital of the New Nazi Germany.

I of course was not alive in them times, well not in this body/life but i have a feeling that this country is not much different to how Germany was pre Nazi Rule.

The country is being FLOODED, and i mean FLOODED with so many immigrants that the country is going to collapse. There is not enough work to go round, and the work that is available to the average joe is normally about £5.50 per hour which aint enough to wipe my arse with if you know what i mean.

Immigration is Keeping the Wage that low as for e.g, Polish people earn this but its worth double or more to them back home(I have nothing against people trying to better themselves) and this keeps people here down in the shit!

Inflation on every thing apart from the WAGES!!!


Soon enough, maybe not for a good few years or so a party like the BNP will get into power by default of us being pushed into a corner and well, we know what happens next.

:mad:


Forgot to add the Blatant Police/Big Brother State that has sprinted in at full speed too.

I know it is really bad, our street is snidered with immigrants. I'm sick of this government and there stupid ideas, and I wish someone would assasanate Tony (smug faced) Blair, I hate him. At the same time as all the migrants are flooding this country the government is pushing to get people off sickness benefits and into the jobs that no longer exist because of the migrants. I've got a medical next week, they have had me under surveilance for a few weeks now despite the fact I haven't been doing anything I said I couldn't do. I sussed them out and started doing counter surveilance on them, but then they started harassing me. Now I could end up on the sausage roll with practically no chance of getting a job, let alone the fact that I wouldn't be able to cope under my current condition anyway.

[bumble]

I think they allow them to come here just to p*** us off. And Blair is just laughing at us.

[joy division]

See i have nothing against people moving to other countries, one day i plan to move out of this soon to become hell hole, but it has to be controlled, as long as there is enough housing and work to accomidate the indignious population first then immigrants should come way down the line after, i mean i cant get a flipping council flat and i was born in this fucking place.....................................


Calm down Joy, Calm down..............:cool:

[chester]

Folks, forgive me, but I see no positive in suggesting anyone be assasinated. If we are demanding a higher form of life from those who may be involved in imposing other than... then we should also emulate what that higher life might be.

[joy division]

Folks, forgive me, but I see no positive in suggesting anyone be assasinated. If we are demanding a higher form of life from those who may be involved in imposing other than... then we should also emulate what that higher life might be.


I agree chester,

see you can take out one but another of the same will be put in there place.

[emma royds]

Folks, forgive me, but I see no positive in suggesting anyone be assasinated. If we are demanding a higher form of life from those who may be involved in imposing other than... then we should also emulate what that higher life might be.

But Tony Blair is not human so I don't have a problem with him being assassinated. Damn, I hope no MI5 are browsing the forum or they might do me for inciting Terrorism or something.

[paolo]

Well, I'd agree that this is the new Nazi Germany, but not just the UK but rather on a global scale. And I'd agree that the smashing of national identities and borders is a method of globalisation. I'd even agree with the idea that allowing in cheap labour is quite deliberate
But all this crap about 'flooding', 'snidered with immigrants' and so on is just the required response.
They not only manipulate the situation but also the response
The flavour of this thread is to identify the scapegoat, the cheap labourer who 'took our jobs'
We don't need the BNP for Nazification. New Labour or WebCameron will suffice

[joy division]

Well, I'd agree that this is the new Nazi Germany, but not just the UK but rather on a global scale. And I'd agree that the smashing of national identities and borders is a method of globalisation. I'd even agree with the idea that allowing in cheap labour is quite deliberate
But all this crap about 'flooding', 'snidered with immigrants' and so on is just the required response.
They not only manipulate the situation but also the response
The flavour of this thread is to identify the scapegoat, the cheap labourer who 'took our jobs'
We don't need the BNP for Nazification. New Labour or WebCameron will suffice


But it is Immigrants ---- Im not here to be politicly correct, why do people get so uptight if someone has a go that the immigrants are being allowed to FLOOD our country, THIS little ISLAND, thats all we are. Why dont they stay in FRANCE, which is HUGE!

IT's not crap, it is Fact.

Yes i agree it will be on Global Scale but we the UK seem to be the guinea pig.

About the BNP, they want it to look like WE the people were responsible for getting the dictatorship in. It is very clever and cunning on there behalf.

[emma royds]

Well, I'd agree that this is the new Nazi Germany, but not just the UK but rather on a global scale. And I'd agree that the smashing of national identities and borders is a method of globalisation. I'd even agree with the idea that allowing in cheap labour is quite deliberate
But all this crap about 'flooding', 'snidered with immigrants' and so on is just the required response.
They not only manipulate the situation but also the response
The flavour of this thread is to identify the scapegoat, the cheap labourer who 'took our jobs'
We don't need the BNP for Nazification. New Labour or WebCameron will suffice

If we sit back and let things happen without complaining because we believe this is the reaction the government wants, then we really do give them full power to run our lives exactly as they see fit. I would'nt exactly call the U.K a democratic country now, but a least we still have the choice of which party we want to elect, and by making our feelings known it gives a message to the elected government that if they don't change their ways they are out.

[paolo]

If we sit back and let things happen without complaining because we believe this is the reaction the government wants, then we really do give them full power to run our lives exactly as they see fit. I would'nt exactly call the U.K a democratic country now, but a least we still have the choice of which party we want to elect, and by making our feelings known it gives a message to the elected government that if they don't change their ways they are out.

Of course we should complain, but on the root causes, not the superficial effects
Wrong diagnosis
Just what the ordo-ab-chaos-mongers want

[paolo]

In fact, I'll amend that. We shouldn't complain, but rather oppose the bastards in control by organising to wake people up. Don't blame the immigrant, enlist them They are fucked over and used every bit as much as you. Talk Sensible

[notaslave]

In fact, I'll amend that. We shouldn't complain, but rather oppose the bastards in control by organising to wake people up. Don't blame the immigrant, enlist them They are fucked over and used every bit as much as you. Talk Sensible

Totally agree, dont blame the poor.

[chester]

Totally agree, dont blame the poor.

Correct -

I have been living in Costa Rica and what we can see there is that recent times has brought more capitol (both legal and illegal) and its trickle down spending into the country. People who have never had anything are suddenly are able to experience a little material growth.

In my case, long ago I escaped much of my materialistic ways (as happens when one starts to truly wake up). I'm pretty much a poor stiff now and live month to month but don't care to play that "grab bags of money" game because the payoff is hollow and doesn't appeal to me anymore.

But back to Costa Rica... they are just getting many of the first tastes of this material success. And it is these folks who inadverantly play one of the major "prison warden" rolls... Well, its the same for immigrants. So often they are tasting for the first time what we have experienced (and our parents, etc) since birth. Many of us have popped out the other side realizing money can't buy peace of mind - happiness, etc. These folks (immigrants) play the "prison warden" roll and don't even know it and they are willing to do it for so much less.

But they are not the ones to blame, they are innocently following the illusion of "success" based on material wealth. Is that "success" for each of you? We all have to try and pay the light bill, huh?

[paolo]

Well That's bollocks Chester really isn't it. These poor suckers grasping at material success - that's the tale laid down for all of us whether you're new to it or not
It's not the lower end policing us, it's the guys or whatever they are at the top and we'd better stay focussed
Their agenda suggests 5 years however they try to extend that, and we should keep in line with that timetable

[i am all i am]

When you move out of your hell hole, you then become the immigrant.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[chester]

Paolo - we agree - perhaps I didn't communicate well, its definitely the folks at the top - its their system laid in quite well it seems - but note that there are millions who are at the bottom and middle and very fast asleep and I was only in pointing out one of the methods that keep them that way... as they climb some fictitious ladder where they will never reach the top, they unknowingly reach positions where they keep others down and still fast asleep. I see this in many 3rd world countries that are one by one being brought into the fold.

And I have been an immigrant for 10 years in a reverse way... in fact, been up and down and all around.

[mynameis]

There's still tea time?

[joy division]

[QUOTE=i am all i am;11495]When you move out of your hell hole, you then become the immigrant.

With LOVE.
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I Know that, if you read what i said properly i clearly stated i having no problem with people wanting to better them selves and immigration as long as it is controlled!!!!!! CONTROLLED.

Of course i would be an immigrant if i moved countries but i would not EXPECT to be put first in line above the indignious population by taking there houses and jobs first!!!!

please take in what i say before you make a comment clearly trying to have a pop at me.

[klinker]

Immigration is only a problem within the present capitalist economic model. That may be over simplifying things a bit but there are methods to the elites madness in keeping developing countries down on their knees. It's good for their pockets regardless of where the cheap labour comes from.

[i am all i am]

G'day Joy Divivsion,

I have lived in England, between '93 and '97.

While I was there I found out that 5% of the population CONTROL 95% of the money and land.

Immigration is already controlled.

The control (ownership) of land is one of the things that the majority of indigenous cultures would disagree with. The Australian Aborigine for example. It is also the issue (ownership) that creates division, seperating humans into the haves and have nots. If adequate land and employment is what you desire, then obviously the redistribution of wealth is what you seek. The 5% (the haves) are the ones that are attempting to CONTROL you (the have nots) so that they have more than you have. The immigrant is very rarely in the 5% and is therefore oppressed by the haves as much as any other. Whilst in England, I saw people of different nationalities working jobs for as little as one pound twenty five per hour. That's only fifty pound for a weeks work. As Paolo said, enlist them in the 'cause' and stand together against the 5%.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.