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wthree
17-10-2010, 04:22 PM
I noticed that David Icke often tries to combine his beliefs of the world with principles of quantum physics, and atomic chemistry. He understands how we perceive the world and he understands how the world is built.

However, it stops there and he takes this information and continuously makes blunders in terms of how particles and waves interact. Specifically, when he talks about frequencies and vibrational fields.

godgoo
17-10-2010, 05:11 PM
I noticed that David Icke often tries to combine his beliefs of the world with principles of quantum physics, and atomic chemistry. He understands how we perceive the world and he understands how the world is built.

However, it stops there and he takes this information and continuously makes blunders in terms of how particles and waves interact. Specifically, when he talks about frequencies and vibrational fields.

Does he not just say frequency and vibrational so he doesn't blunder too much. Anymore than those two terms, and he could fall foul.

godgoo
17-10-2010, 05:24 PM
Maybe he should try to describe how these vibrational frequencies are responsible in terms of atomic orbital states.

http://www.mpcfaculty.net/mark_bishop/AO_frame.htm

I can draw a picture that says a thousand words.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4373/nucelus.jpg

This is what I see when I think about, this? These protons could be at any, angle, viewed from one perspective angle? If it was possible? Did'nt Haramein say these were 2D dots?

stopthemadness
17-10-2010, 06:00 PM
He is not referring to frequency and vibration as in physics. He is using those terms as metaphors to describe the spiritual realm. The stratification of of reality where we, here stuck on Earth, are in a lower state compared to higher spirits is what he is trying to describe. He is trying to put it into terms that ordinary people can understand. Sometimes that means scientific vocabulary gets used out of context.

The question is what is this "state?"

We are low. We wish to be high. What exactly does low & high mean spiritually? Most would say the further from God you are the lower you are. Higher spiritual states are more selfless, patient, loving, and guiding. This is found in most all religions. But the practitioners of those religions don't even understand their own teachings.

sadukan
17-10-2010, 11:44 PM
I began reading a very interesting book recently called "Quantum Questions - Mystical Writings of the World's Greatest Physicists" edited by Ken Wilber.
Synopsis

Brings together the mystical writings of quantum physicists and relativity scientists Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Einstein, de Broglie, Jeans, Planck, Pauli, and Eddington to reveal how each of these men of science came to see the world as a spiritual rather than material phenomenon.
See, "fizzycysts" (as I like to call them) don't even know how to define concepts such as "energy". For example, if we take a quantum of light energy as:

E=hv

where a constant (h) is factored by a frequency (v), then we simply have just a number. So, we might surmise that Energy is number. This ties in to Energy defined as a frequency (v) or vibration.

One interesting extrapolation can be gleaned by redefining (v) as its reciprocal (inverted form) duration (T). Specifically, this is defined as "the Time taken to perform one cycle" - whereas frequency would be "cycles per second". So, we can rewrite the previous formula as:

E=h/T

T=h/E, is an alternative representation of the same.
v=E/h, is the reciprocal inversion.

So, if we section Time (T) off into chunks of (E) they end up as big as (h). Like simple fractions, if we now arbitrarily fix (h) as "1", then T=1/E; making v=E.

1=TE=E/v

Introducing the concept of wavelength (λ) we can rewrite:

v=c/λ
E=hc/λ

which makes T=λ/c, where (c) is the speed of light.

We can then also fix (c) to be "1", arbitrarily. So we have E=1/λ

Which means that for light in a vacuum, λ=T because 1=TE.
Then since 1/T=v, we can say λ=1/v.

This means that by "normalising" (h) and (c) to unity ("1") we can define "wavelength" (λ) as both Time (T) and the inversion of frequency (1/v).

Wavelength is of course a distance - so we now have Length (λ) defined.

So, the above analysis (by normalising two constants, h and c) "proves" that Length is Time; Frequency is then the inverse of Length.

The only minor problem with this analysis is that by normalising the constants we have to redefine their units.

sadukan.

PS - Also, E=n.hv is the equation involving multiple "photons" (n) each of Energy hv. Then we can say, E=n/λ or n=Eλ, which means that number (n) is a Length (λ) factored by an Energy (E). Normalising E, we end up with n=λ, so - number is a Length, the basic definition of an abstract "dimension" and the concept of "cardinality" (size).
PPS - If we now link back up to what was said about Energy being a number, then since number is a Length - so is Energy!!! Energy as Length implies that Space itself is Energy - similar to what Nassim Haramein is saying about the structure of the vacuum being "full" rather than "empty".

godgoo
26-10-2010, 04:31 AM
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/56/48ironatoms.png

An image of a ring
of 48 iron atoms on a copper
surface, produced using scanning
tunnelling microscopy. Notice the
wave-like crests and troughs inside
the ring. These are thought to be
due to electrons confined within the
ring. confined electrons have some
wave-like properties.

godgoo
26-10-2010, 04:33 AM
What do you, make of it ??? :)

csm_
29-10-2010, 07:11 AM
Quantum mysticism

"Quantum mysticism" and "quantum quackery" are pejorative terms used to describe the tendency to selectively borrow ideas from quantum physics to support New Age and other pseudoscientific beliefs. This trend was once also described by physicist and skeptic Murray Gell-Mann as quantum flapdoodle.[1]

Science fiction writer Greg Egan, commentator Margaret Wertheim, among others, have complained that quantum physics is being hijacked by people with little understanding of the underlying concepts, and lacking the intellectual rigour intrinsic to scientific inquiry.

Quantum mysticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Quantum Physics Hijacked by the New Age movement

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/views/qm-cr.htm

energi
29-10-2010, 10:31 AM
He is not referring to frequency and vibration as in physics. He is using those terms as metaphors to describe the spiritual realm. The stratification of of reality where we, here stuck on Earth, are in a lower state compared to higher spirits is what he is trying to describe. He is trying to put it into terms that ordinary people can understand. Sometimes that means scientific vocabulary gets used out of context.

The question is what is this "state?"

We are low. We wish to be high. What exactly does low & high mean spiritually? Most would say the further from God you are the lower you are. Higher spiritual states are more selfless, patient, loving, and guiding. This is found in most all religions. But the practitioners of those religions don't even understand their own teachings.
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