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Anders Lindman
13-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Obviously one should not be reckless, but have you noticed how the world is obsessed with protection?

If we didn't need protection, would we then need fear?

If you want to control large groups of people, whole nations, or small groups of people or even individuals, then what would be the most efficient way of doing that? The answer: make them feel an urgent need to protect themselves and then offer them false solutions for the purpose of control and manipulation.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
13-11-2007, 08:43 PM
First Post!!

ninja17
13-11-2007, 09:22 PM
If you want to control large groups of people, whole nations, or small groups of people or even individuals, then what would be the most efficient way of doing that?

Chapter 72

1. When the people do not fear what they ought to fear, that which is their great dread will come on them.

2. Let them not thoughtlessly indulge themselves in their ordinary life; let them not act as if weary of what that life depends on.

3. It is by avoiding such indulgence that such weariness does not arise.

4. Therefore the sage knows (these things) of himself, but does not parade (his knowledge); loves, but does not (appear to set a) value on, himself. And thus he puts the latter alternative away and makes choice of the former.

Chapter 75

1. The people suffer from famine because of the multitude of taxes consumed by their superiors. It is through this that they suffer famine.

2. The people are difficult to govern because of the (excessive) agency of their superiors (in governing them). It is through this that they are difficult to govern.

3. The people make light of dying because of the greatness of their labours in seeking for the means of living. It is this which makes them think light of dying. Thus it is that to leave the subject of living altogether out of view is better than to set a high value on it.

"Lao-dse-Tao te king"

People dont answer on questions these days.:rolleyes:

Anders Lindman
13-11-2007, 11:24 PM
It's crucial to have mental protection. For without it we will not be protected even from our own minds.

freedomnonfighter
13-11-2007, 11:42 PM
"Security" is Insecurity. ;)

ninja17
14-11-2007, 01:12 PM
It's crucial to have mental protection. For without it we will not be protected even from our own minds.

Whut is mental protection?

"Security" is Insecurity.

Spot on.Get a car and spread that message in your country.;)

Anders Lindman
14-11-2007, 05:52 PM
Whut is mental protection?

Fear causes stress in the body leading to cancer, heart diseases and other kinds of illnesses. So mental fear is an attack on the body. It's an attack on oneself.

Therefore, it's not what the fear is about that I should focus on. Fear about my financial situation. Fear about my physical health. Fear about social relationships. And on and on. If I am not mentally protected, then those fears will attack me, and that problem cannot be solved by more and more external protections.

So mental protection is an inner thing. It's a protection against harmful thoughts.

ninja17
14-11-2007, 06:59 PM
Yes,whut is the root of fear?

I think.
Most of the time fears develope from illusions protected in the future that are able to manifest if they are charged with energy.
Fears of survival are subconscious and developed in the early stages of childhood and the fear of death was manipulated later on(most of the time).

Chapter 50

1. Men come forth and live; they enter (again) and die.

2. Of every ten three are ministers of life (to themselves); and three are ministers of death.

3. There are also three in every ten whose aim is to live, but whose movements tend to the land (or place) of death. And for what reason? Because of their excessive endeavours to perpetuate life.

4. But I have heard that he who is skilful in managing the life entrusted to him for a time travels on the land without having to shun rhinoceros or tiger, and enters a host without having to avoid buff coat or sharp weapon. The rhinoceros finds no place in him into which to thrust its horn, nor the tiger a place in which to fix its claws, nor the weapon a place to admit its point. And for what reason? Because there is in him no place of death.

;)

titurel
14-11-2007, 07:04 PM
Obviously one should not be reckless, but have you noticed how the world is obsessed with protection?

If we didn't need protection, would we then need fear?

If you want to control large groups of people, whole nations, or small groups of people or even individuals, then what would be the most efficient way of doing that? The answer: make them feel an urgent need to protect themselves and then offer them false solutions for the purpose of control and manipulation.
"When you protect something, you control it. When you continue to serve the people you control, they are lulled into complacency. In this Edenic complacency, that group which is being protected never realizes it is controlled. Therefore, to control something, you must protect and serve it very well. You must be sure that what and who you are protecting stays so happy and complacent that they never think about freedom... let alone seek it." - "Templars, Sirius, Esterhaszy

Anders Lindman
14-11-2007, 08:58 PM
There is external protection and internal protection. We have become too fixated on external protection and have come to neglect internal protection.

Without internal protection we will never feel safe. The only thing we need to control for internal protection is time. Without that protection we will suffer from chronophobia. :D

oceanwave
14-11-2007, 10:48 PM
good thread, thus far...

...the human skin protects vital organs

perhaps, as i assume anders is saying

...we should also protect our mind

...to remain sovereign

...lest we become subject...

Anders Lindman
15-11-2007, 12:16 AM
...the human skin protects vital organs


The inside of the body is protected by the skin, yes, but the inside of the body is not protected from our toxic thoughts. Sick thoughts lead to sick emotions which leads to a sick body.

oceanwave
15-11-2007, 12:46 AM
The inside of the body is protected by the skin, yes, but the inside of the body is not protected from our toxic thoughts. Sick thoughts lead to sick emotions which leads to a sick body.

ermm like i said?

...we should also protect our mind

...to remain sovereign

...lest we become subject...