The real X Men...

[edelweiss pirate]

It occurs to me that the x-men comic book and movies are actually an extreme reflection of an actual reality experienced by many poeple, myself included. My own speciality is weather control, I knew people in the far east who could actually get inside people's dreams.. and other stuff that people just WON'T believe. I seem to have freaked that 2012 guy out a bit with this and he now thinks I'm a mason which is odd because according to him the masons don't have any power... Anyway, any more people out there with these powers ?

We could form a real X men unit...

BTW
I'm serious.

BTW pt2 this is post number 5,555..... I love 'dem magic numbers baby....

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa072400a.htm

The REAL X-Men

They have powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men or women. But unlike the characters of the comic book, these extraordinary people were quite real.
The movie version of X-Men was the hottest film in the theaters when it was released. Based on the enormously popular comic book, X-Men features a collection of human mutants - both good and evil - who were born with extraordinary and sometimes bizarre powers. With such names as Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, Magneto and Mystique, they bound around making blades spring from their knuckles, conjuring hurricanes from the sky or manipulating their environment through telekinesis. These characters, creations of legendary comic book author and illustrator Stan Lee, live only in the imagination, on paper and now on film.

Would you believe there are real X-Men? They may not be genetic mutants, in the strictest sense, and they may not be able to threaten or save the world with their strange and fantastic powers of the body and mind, but they are extraordinary... not at all like you and me. Here's our own gallery of real-life super-powered characters.

Lightning Man
When storm clouds gather, courageous Lightning Man stands in defiance of nature to draw deadly bolts of electricity from the heavens.

Roy Cleveland Sullivan was a Forest Ranger in Virginia who had an incredible attraction to lightning... or rather it had an attraction to him. Over his 36-year career as a ranger, Sullivan was struck by lightning seven times - and survived each jolt, but not unscathed. When struck for the first time in 1942, he suffered the loss of a nail on his big toe. Twenty-seven years passed before he was struck again, this time by a bolt that singed his eyebrows off. The next year, in 1970, another strike burned Sullivan's left shoulder. Now it looked as though lightning had it out for poor Roy, and people were starting to call him The Human Lightning Rod. He didn't disappoint them. Lightning zapped him again in 1972, setting his hair on fire and convincing him to keep a container of water in his car, just in case. The water came in handy in 1973 when, seemly just to taunt Sullivan, a low-hanging cloud shot a bolt of lightning at his head, blasting him out of his car, setting his hair on fire and knocking off a shoe. The sixth strike in 1976 injured his ankle, and the seventh strike in 1977, got him when he was fishing, and put him in the hospital for treatment of chest and stomach burns. Lightning may not have been able to kill Roy Sullivan, but perhaps the threat of it did. He took his own life in 1983. Two of his lightning-singed ranger hats are on display at Guinness World Exhibit Halls.

BeastMaster
With just the power of his mind, he can command animals to do his bidding.

Vladimir Durov was no ordinary animal trainer. As a veteran performer in a Russian circus, he claimed to use a remarkable method for communicating with his canine coworkers - through telepathy. Professor W. Bechterev, head of the institute for the Investigation of the Brain in St. Petersburg, decided to test Durov's claim. Bechterev created a list of tasks that he wanted one of Durov's dogs to perform in a specific order, without any time for training. After hearing or reading the list of tasks, Durov went to his fox terrier, Pikki, took his head in his hands and stared straight into the little dog's eyes - psychicly transferring his thoughts directly into Pikki's brain. Durov released the dog and it immediately went about performing the assigned tasks. Thinking that perhaps Durov was giving the dog subtle clues with his eyes, the test was repeated with a new set of tasks, but this time with Durov blindfolded. Pikki still responded to his psychic commands.

The Electromagneto Team
Charged like superconducting human batteries, they roam the countryside thrilling all they meet with the electrifying power at their fingertips.

There have been several documented cases of people who apparently possess inexplicable electromagnetic properties:

For just a 10-week period in 1846, 14-year-old French girl Angelique Cottin's mere presence made the needles of compasses spin wildly; objects as heavy as furniture would slide away from her if she tried to touch them; objects near her would vibrate unnaturally.
Jennie Morgan of Sedalia, Missouri could emit highly-charged sparks from her fingertips that were strong enough to knock people unconscious. Animals would shun her.
After an 18-month undiagnosed illness, Canadian teenager Caroline Clare became so magnetized that metal objects, like forks and knives, stuck to her skin. The force was so powerful that another person was required to pull them off.
Inga Gaiduchenko, a 14-year-old Soviet student was also highly magnetic. Before members of the Moscow Technological Institute, she showed how spoons and pens stuck to her hands. Even non-metallic objects such as china plates and books were affected.
The Amazing Kinetitron
With her thoughts alone, a steely glance or a subtle gesture, she can move inanimate objects at will.

Nina Kulagina became one of the most famous psychics in the Soviet Union in the 1960s because of her amazing feats of telekinesis or psychokinesis. In films smuggled out of the country, Kulagina was shown to be able to move small objects placed before her on a table. Under close scientific observation, Kulagina would hold her hands a few inches above the objects, and in a few moments they would being to slide across the table top. Wooden matches, small boxes, cigarettes and Plexiglas would all react to her intense concentration. At times, objects would continue to move even when she took her hands away. In the early 1970s, Kulagina was even recruited by the Soviet government to see if she could somehow help a sick Nikita Khrushchev.

[seamus]

So are you reconsidering my idea to go in? Let me know if/when you get ready to do it, I'll start tracking weather data for you. All it takes to control weather is to be able to channel insane amounts of Orgone. People have gotten sick by touching a cloudbuster (even a chembuster) in operation, so I guess you would qualify as an X-man if able to do that without getting sick :)

s


P.S. It's easy since it's all an illusion anyway... ;)

[edelweiss pirate]

Totally, it's all an illusion anyway.... If you get to really 'see it' as an illusion, then you can really start bending reality.

If we can get enough people with an open mind on board we could probably work together to 'focus' on a particular thing at a particular time...

The same way monks in various cities can meditate as a group and the crime rate mysteriously drops off...

We just need to believe in ourselves..

Like these guys:

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6840/flyingte0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Dilbeck, Bauer, and Seferovich (1978) conducted a study in the suburban Kansas City area over a three year period. Twenty-three cities with populations greater than 4,000 and located within a twenty mile radius of downtown Kansas City were studied. During the period of the study, nine of these cities crossed the one percent TM meditators threshold. A drop in crime rate was reported to be significantly correlated with those communities with one percent or more of the population practicing TM. The researchers tested the data to determine whether this difference also correlated with other factors such as level of police coverage, changes in police coverage, and socioeconomic differences between cities. No significant correlations were found with these variables. This research was conducted at the Western Missouri Mental Health Center in Kansas City.
http://jeff.zaadz.com/blog/2006/5/psychic_powers_in_tm

[markhowie]

Aloha
edelweiss pirate ,quote:
If we can get enough people with an open mind on board we could probably work together to 'focus' on a particular thing at a particular time...

yep i agree
like on sundays there this global meditation for peace
ther are things like the harmonique convergence
this spring equinoxs there will be a world event

these thing are startin to happen
i think that not only does it depend on the number of people, it is also in what power they have or are in
how mutch vital energy they have stored / can focus

im up for it....................!

but what...........?

lets just start instead of waiting for enought people
lets bend

@+ mark

[21_12_2012]

My own speciality is weather control, I knew people in the far east who could actually get inside people's dreams.. and other stuff that people just WON'T believe. I seem to have freaked that 2012 guy out a bit with this and he now thinks I'm a mason which is odd because according to him the masons don't have any power..

You haven't freaked me out in the slightest. You're a freak though.
And no i didn't say masons had no power, i actually said they do no know everything like you claim they do.

[21_12_2012]

My own speciality is weather control, I knew people in the far east who could actually get inside people's dreams.. and other stuff that people just WON'T believe.

You're right...we don't believe you.

By the way..i have a friend who has eaten half of the moon..he says it IS made of cream cheese...he is a mason and he knows everything by the way.
And if you're not careful, he will get into your dreams.....beware !

Be afraid..be very afraid...of the masons !

[teslafire]

I don't know edelweiss pirate personally, so I'd never say that I believe everything he says. But I do know that orgone (chi, prana, etc. etc.) can be used to manipulate the weather.

See Wilhelm Reich.

[teslafire]

And if you're not careful, he will get into your dreams.....beware !

An evolved consciousness could no doubt pull off such a feat, no?

Doesn't seem to far away from Remote Viewing and Lucid dreaming or some combination of.

[21_12_2012]

I don't know edelweiss pirate personally, so I'd never say that I believe everything he says. But I do know that orgone (chi, prana, etc. etc.) can be used to manipulate the weather.

See Wilhelm Reich.

Yes, i actually have made orgonite, and own a few hundred crystals. I know about orgone/prana/chi
But...controlling the weather with his mind....ermm....ok

Manifesting UFO's...ermm....yep.

[teslafire]

Yes, i actually have made orgonite, and own a few hundred crystals. I know about orgone/prana/chi
But...controlling the weather with his mind....ermm....ok

Your body is made of orgone, remember?
:D

[21_12_2012]

An evolved consciousness could no doubt pull off such a feat, no?

Doesn't seem to far away from Remote Viewing and Lucid dreaming or some combination of.

Doesn't seem too far away from complete tripe to me.
Eidelweiss sounds full of it to me....show us some proof eidelwiess pirate !!
haha

[teslafire]

I'm curious as to your definition of an evolved consciousness, 21_12_2012?

[21_12_2012]

I'm curious as to your definition of an evolved consciousness, 21_12_2012?

My view is simple:-
We are approaching a very important date, THE most important time of the last 25,920 years.
We have entered into what is known as the photon band which is increasing the vibration of everything within our solar system including our minds/bodies/dna and accelerating it/cleansing everything.
On 21_12_2012 massive changes will occur, and we will ourselves pass through many evolutions of consciousness leading up to this date...and then on this date, ascension en-masse....multi-dimensional access...12 strand DNA for everyone who makes the shift...
But, nobody can say for certain, and apparently psychics have attempted to visit the time after 21_12_2012 and it cannot be done...due to a 'void' or 'bubble' being around this time period...so who knows...we all may be extinct on this date..or we all may ascend...or none of us may ascend...or some will ascend....! i would say that depends upon us a great deal, as well as the 100th monkey syndrome and as many people raising thier vibrations before 21_12_2012.
Thats my simple view of it anyway.

[seamus]

Yes, i actually have made orgonite, and own a few hundred crystals. I know about orgone/prana/chi
But...controlling the weather with his mind....ermm....ok

Manifesting UFO's...ermm....yep.
Heyyy, what about the visual ray experiment where you dissolve a cloud with orgone shooting out of your eye? No I am not joking. It's on educate-yourself.org

:P

s

[21_12_2012]

Heyyy, what about the visual ray experiment where you dissolve a cloud with orgone shooting out of your eye? No I am not joking. It's on educate-yourself.org

:P

s

OK then, so E.pirate can shoot orgone out of his eye and dissolve clouds...and he knows someone who can manifest UFO's...and can stop cars in their tracks....
I would definately like just 1 JOINTs worth of what he has been smoking...please !

[neondestiny]

21 12 2012, it is my belief we all at some point in time were able to produce paranormal phenomena, but have forgotten "how" to do it.
I believe this is how the pyramids were built "with the mind" and how the heads at easter island were placed where they are, possibly the stones at stonehenge as well (through telekenisis).
I fully believe in the power of the "mind and spirit"

[seamus]

teslafire,

I miss your Bowie avatar :)

21 12 2012, it is my belief we all at some point in time were able to produce paranormal phenomena, but have forgotten "how" to do it.
I believe this is how the pyramids were built "with the mind" and how the heads at easter island were placed where they are, possibly the stones at stonehenge as well (through telekenisis).
I fully believe in the power of the "mind and spirit"

Let's not forget the Coral Castle in Florida!

s

[i am all i am]

I have changed a Police officers gun to wood and controlled the weather.

We are all opening up to the truth of who we are and what we are capable of. There is a progression going on and each and everyone of one us are going through this progression through choice. As you believe for your self, so shall it be. If you believe that someone cannot do something, then for you that becomes your reality and you will not be able to do that something for you are someone. What you believe becomes your experience.

Looking to understand the journey that I am on, I came to write about belief and what I understood about it from my own personal experience. Here is what I put together....

BELIEF IS ALL

ALL THOUGHTS, WORDS AND ACTIONS LEAD FROM YOUR BELIEF

IF YOUR BELIEF IS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING, THEN YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND UNABLE TO SEE THAT WHICH YOU ARE OPPOSED TO.

YOUR BELIEF ALLOWS YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND SEE THAT WHICH YOU BELIEVE IN, HERE AND NOW, WITHIN THE PHYSICAL.

THEREFORE, BELIEVING WILL ALLOW YOU TO SEE, AND THAT WHICH YOU SEE IS A CONFIRMATION OF YOUR BELIEF.

TO MASTER YOURSELF, OR EXPERIENCE SELF-MASERY, YOU WILL REQUIRE A BELIEF THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL THAT IS.

THE BELIEF THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ENCOMPASS ALL THAT IS AND THERFORE UNDERSTAND AND SEE ALL THAT IS, IS THE BELIEF THAT ALL IS POSSIBLE.

AS ALL THAT IS IS ALREADY HERE WITHIN ITS ENTIRETY, IT BECOMES YOUR CHOICE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THAT IS AND ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE AN INDIVIDUAL ASPECT OF ALL THAT IS.

TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS TO RECOGNISE, OR RE-COGNISE, THAT IS, ONCE AGAIN EXPERIENCE KNOWING.

TO ACKNOLEDGE THAT YOU ARE AN INDIVIDUAL ASPECT OF ALL THAT IS, IS TO ACCEPT YOUR TRUE SELF, THE INFINITE BEING THAT YOU TRULY ARE.

WHAT YOU ARE BEING, YOU EXPERIENCE, AND IT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE OF BEING YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE HERE FOR.

THEREFORE WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO BE WILL DETERMINE YOUR EXPERIENCE, AND ONLY THROUGH YOUR EXPERIENCE CAN YOU EXPRESS, AND ONLY THROUGH YOUR EXPERIENCE CAN YOU EXPRESS SELF-MASTERY WITHIN THE PHYSICAL.

I love what you said neondestiny. The Giza pyramids could have been built with psionics. Imagine a choir of 10,000 people, in a geometrical patern toning through a clear quartz crystal, 10cm in size, in each hand, directing their energy to a geometrical pattern of 100cm crystals in the centre of their pattern, with someone in the middle of the geometrical pattern of crystal directing the energy flow. I would love to do this on the top of Ayers Rock for example.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[tru3]

It occurs to me that the x-men comic book and movies are actually an extreme reflection of an actual reality experienced by many poeple, myself included. My own speciality is weather control, I knew people in the far east who could actually get inside people's dreams.. and other stuff that people just WON'T believe. I seem to have freaked that 2012 guy out a bit with this and he now thinks I'm a mason which is odd because according to him the masons don't have any power... Anyway, any more people out there with these powers ?

We could form a real X men unit...

BTW
I'm serious.

BTW pt2 this is post number 5,555..... I love 'dem magic numbers baby....

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa072400a.htm

i've got dibs on "the amazing orgazmo" :p

[limelady]

I personally have np problem with what edelweiss pirate is saying - I don't believe he's "tripe" or even close to it as 21_12_2012 put it a few posts back.

Breaking up clouds with your mind is actually REALLY easy. Have none of you ever tried this? I learnt how to do this after reading a Wayne Dyer book back in the 80's. I taught my kids to do it too. Is not rocket science when you understand reality is NOT what we think it is. EVERYTHING is an illusion and you can use your mind to change the illusion.

On the other hand if you believe its all "tripe" then this will be your illusion.


LL

[geo2]

:eek: :D :cool: 'kids', thought, they were blessed children ! LOLove sis,.....

Ave Maria ! 13yo Mom ! Infinity

:rolleyes: :o :cool:

[albie]

It occurs to me that the x-men comic book and movies are actually an extreme reflection of an actual reality experienced by many poeple, myself included. My own speciality is weather control, I knew people in the far east who could actually get inside people's dreams.. and other stuff that people just WON'T believe. I seem to have freaked that 2012 guy out a bit with this and he now thinks I'm a mason which is odd because according to him the masons don't have any power... Anyway, any more people out there with these powers ?

We could form a real X men unit...

Give an example of you controlling weather.

Shouldn't you be out in Africa soaking their plants?

I've experienced odd events. Such as conjuring small demons and affecting electricity. You name it, I've done it.

Not sure it was me though. Or mad coincidence. Or god. Or "insert choice".

[albie]

For instance.

Jill Dando. I recall seeing an image of her on the Radio Times a few days before she was killed. When I saw the image of her, dressed in tight black cat suit, in front of a black car, I recall hearing in my head the words "Oh, she's got to die for this."

I don't know if it was me thinking it. Why would I? The image conjured up Princess Diana for me. Maybe that was it (i'm no fan of Diana btw)

She was murdered a few days later and I recall that a policeman came up with the idea that the picture of her on the radio times had something to do with it.

:confused:

Did I hear the killer's thoughts? Was he watching that same TV program at the same time as me when the advert for radio times came up?

[i am all i am]

If one thing is possible, then all things are possible, for all is one.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[21_12_2012]

OK....I stand corrected...this forum is obviously full of people with super-human powers....who in fact can achieve absolutely anything with their minds....
Yet the world remains in turmoil...people continue to starve to death and have no water...torture continues....yet all these people on this forum with these mega-powers...what do they choose to do? ermmm....yeh.....they choose to come on the David Icke forum and do......ermmm...absolutely nothing with their powers apart from ermmmmm...make a few clouds disappear......great stuff !
The words:-
"yesterday"....."born"....."not"...."was"... and "i"...spring to mind anyway.
My illusion is this :- change the world in a positive way...show me and others just how good these so-called super human powers of yours are (and that they in fact actually work)...then the world will be a better place...then my illusion will be like your illusion :)...and we will all live happily ever after !
(highly doubtful but i look forward to it!)...come on...let's change some masons into stone ! or wood !
Or some presidents into little furry animals ! Have we all got our magic wands?...Well let's go then !

In fact, also, there's a few geraniums and poppies that need a good watering in my garden...and a couple of wungobungo trees that could do with a few drips of rain....how about i stand in my garden in manchester at....ermm...let's say....6pm tonight (greenwich mean time)...and as many of you superhumans as possible can water my wungobungo trees for me please...and i will stand there with granada tonight cameras filming live...with FRED the weatherman standing by for this first-time world event of creating Mancunian rain....and then we can actually get this thing advertised on national TV....then more people can actually see the power of the REAL X MEN, and then join in !
Before we know it, we will all be living in the rain clouds, manifesting dinky toys and stopping traffic with our new brains....

Now how does that sound to everyone?

Or instead of that, we could just go and visit a good psychiatrist maybe. I know a few good ones in Moss Side...But you'll have to turn their guns into wood if you want to walk round these parts safely.

[teslafire]

I'm all about it!

Except sentient things tend to fight back, more than say a cloud.

[limelady]

Woooooo back there 21_12_2012!

Not all of us ARE saying we have "super-human powers"! In fact, these are not super powers at all, they are natural abilities ALL HUMANS have, or should I say, they are becoming more and more natural to people who are no longer believing the limitations of the 'program'.

Perhaps when enough of us have extracted ourselves from the limiting belief systems that have been imposed on us for eons, perhaps THEN and only THEN will humanity be able to manifest the sorts of changes all of us on this forum would like to see happen in this world. Meantime as individual we are still learning to change the nature of our own reality, and for some of us this is a big enough challenge when everyday we have to fend off the programming that still keeps coming at us thick and fast from every direction.

In case the 2012 ascension thing doesn't pan out the way you're hoping it will, perhaps you could have a go at suspending your own disbelief for a little while and see what natural abilities you yourself may have? You may just surprise yourself with what you are actually capable of.

Give it a whirl!! :D :D :D

[21_12_2012]

Woooooo back there 21_12_2012!

Not all of us ARE saying we have "super-human powers"! In fact, these are not super powers at all, they are natural abilities ALL HUMANS have, or should I say, they are becoming more and more natural to people who are no longer believing the limitations of the 'program'.

Perhaps when enough of us have extracted ourselves from the limiting belief systems that have been imposed on us for eons, perhaps THEN and only THEN will humanity be able to manifest the sorts of changes all of us on this forum would like to see happen in this world. Meantime as individual we are still learning to change the nature of our own reality, and for some of us this is a big enough challenge when everyday we have to fend off the programming that still keeps coming at us thick and fast from every direction.

In case the 2012 ascension thing doesn't pan out the way you're hoping it will, perhaps you could have a go at suspending your own disbelief for a little while and see what natural abilities you yourself may have? You may just surprise yourself with what you are actually capable of.

Give it a whirl!! :D :D :D

I know there are some well-meaning people on here....and i do hope the people on here who claim to have these 'powers' will be able to change the world in a good way....but.....as much as i know that this 'reality' is illusion.....i just cannot help feeling that some people on this forum are talking complete 'rubbish'...like this eidelweiss pirate 'person'....i actually called him a paranoid schizophrenic...and he actually admitted to being schizophrenic....so i cannot be that bad of a character judge really....but giftfromgod is a schizophrenic but he doesnt come out with nonsense like that....i have nothing against people, but when they start making ridiculous statements, and then even saying "but nobody will believe me"...it kind of 'takes the piss' out of the people who he expects to believe what he is saying...
And his claims of knowing someone who can manifest UFO's, stop cars with their mind, and controll weather, and his claims about masons knowing everything...well....i can smell something...and it isn't roses...
So you have to understand where i am coming from here....i would love to believe we all have these powers underneath...and i would love to see proof of this, either from myself or from others...but....the way some people come on here with their stupidly long words and ways of saying things, and then come out with some 'rubbish' that sounds like some lord of the rings 'baloney'
Why doesnt someone open a thread about 'special powers' ... then we can all learn how to do it and benefit the world as a whole...
I just cannot see this happening....

[i am all i am]

I would be glad to join together to manifest. I believe it is a pathway that leads to experiencing our oneness.

We can all be Neo, the oNe. Every part of the hologram has every 'other' part within it. It's our choice.

Although, I would prefer to have an open discussion on what to manifest and come to an agreement together as to what would be of benefit for everyone that we will manifest.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[albie]

Oi! Bully.

I killed some ducks with a tulpa once.

So watch it!:D

Stuff does happen. I don't know why. But I've been trying to will stuff to happen for seventeen years. For the last ten years it seems to happen.

So I'll talk to you again in seventeen years.:cool:

You have to trick your mind. I started out by feeding pigeons. I would throw a bit of bread then pretend to force the pigeon to eat it. It was bound to happen, but there was a part of my mind that maybe didn't know that and thought I could do magic. Maybe it thinks magic is normal.

I laid claim to the inevitable.

That's my theory.

I've spent years forcing my mind to think in a surreal way. Creating a place inside where logic broke down. I can send myself mad any time I want. For a few seconds. I reckon that's got something to do with it.

An ideal state of mind to bring in a bit of magic.

Visualization helps too. Train your mind to see things clearly.

Masturbation is good for this.:eek:

You will need to be little crazy though.

[21_12_2012]

I would be glad to join together to manifest. I believe it is a pathway that leads to experiencing our oneness.

We can all be Neo, the oNe. Every part of the hologram has every 'other' part within it. It's our choice.

Although, I would prefer to have an open discussion on what to manifest and come to an agreement together as to what would be of benefit for everyone that we will manifest.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

It would be good to see something come from it....

[albie]

Everytime I try to send death thoughts to Bush my throat tightens up.

Sometimes I have to apologize to make it stop.

Try it.

[tru3]

Woooooo back there 21_12_2012!

Not all of us ARE saying we have "super-human powers"! In fact, these are not super powers at all, they are natural abilities ALL HUMANS have, or should I say, they are becoming more and more natural to people who are no longer believing the limitations of the 'program'.

Perhaps when enough of us have extracted ourselves from the limiting belief systems that have been imposed on us for eons, perhaps THEN and only THEN will humanity be able to manifest the sorts of changes all of us on this forum would like to see happen in this world. Meantime as individual we are still learning to change the nature of our own reality, and for some of us this is a big enough challenge when everyday we have to fend off the programming that still keeps coming at us thick and fast from every direction.

In case the 2012 ascension thing doesn't pan out the way you're hoping it will, perhaps you could have a go at suspending your own disbelief for a little while and see what natural abilities you yourself may have? You may just surprise yourself with what you are actually capable of.

Give it a whirl!! :D :D :D

my understanding is that siddhis, or extraordinary powers, are organic to the purification process (by purification i mean the dropping of limited beliefs); however they can not be manipulated. well, they can, but because the limiting belief system is a priori to the siddhi, it cannot be used to its full potential. it's not wise to go into a fight with an unloaded weapon! :)

i've found it's best to tend my own garden. i know, i know, my garden is an illusion too, but it is holographic; any healing i do with respect to my own 'issues' ripples out into the rest of the garden. my world is simply a feedback mechanism, a great mirror of wisdom, to let me know exactly where my consciousness is at any given moment. i always judge by results: often harsh, but always fair. my intention is to be an example of harmlessness and compassion, and fearlessness. it is my hope that as others notice these qualities, they in turn become less fearful and more willing to drop those limiting beliefs peculiar to them.

[tru3]

Everytime I try to send death thoughts to Bush my throat tightens up.

Sometimes I have to apologize to make it stop.

Try it.


someone once wrote that if you could stick your face through a black hole, what you would see would be the back of your own head.

it's called the law of return. i've actually had that experience, albie. i don't ever want to repeat it.

it's my deep belief that this experience, the truth of it, is why the illuminati will never win. they're just piling more and more shit on top of their own heads. we are deathless being; most of us here just keep coming back time after time, trying to get it through their heads that they're playing a losing game.

some people are a little slow on the uptake... :D

[albie]

Is the aim to destroy the matrix or simply escape it? If we don't shut it down, will it remain? Complete with fake people?

Will an army of lovers be anymore powerful than one lover?

Will being happy stop me voting Bush?

[i am all i am]

Thank you for being an example of harmlessness, compassion and fearlessness True3.

I also understand these qualities as truth, joy and love. The three gifts that we can give/share of ourselves through mind, body and soul/thought, action and word/there, here and in between here and there.

With LOVE.
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[i am all i am]

Why not use the matrix as a tool conciously to create with ?

Aother option to shutting it down or escaping it.

With LOVE.
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[albie]

Well, performing miracles would be cool. I suppose if this is a matrix then there will be a time of miracles.

Baggsy the death grip.

[i am all i am]

MIRACLES -> MIRRORACLES -> MIRROR ORACLES.

Reflecting our future.

Now is a perfect time.

ONE STEP AWAY

LOVE IS JUST ONE STEP AWAY,
ONLY ONE THOUGHT AND YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY,
IT'S AN AMAZING THING TO DO,
LOVING EVERYONE IN FRONT OF YOU.

WHEN YOU LOVE EVERYTHING,
YOUR HEART WILL OPEN AND YOU'LL SING,
YOU CAN HELP EVERYONE SEE,
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PERSON THEY CAN BE.

IF NOT YOU, WHO ?
IF NOT NOW, WHEN WILL DO ?
LOVE IS OFFERING A HAND,
SO THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND.

YES IT'S LOVE THAT YOU REALISE,
WHEN YOU LOOK DEEP INTO MY EYES,
YOU LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY,
WHEN YOU GIVE A LOVE THAT'S FREE.

With LOVE.
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[seamus]

Woooooo back there 21_12_2012!

Not all of us ARE saying we have "super-human powers"! In fact, these are not super powers at all, they are natural abilities ALL HUMANS have, or should I say, they are becoming more and more natural to people who are no longer believing the limitations of the 'program'.



I agree. Jesus was able to do what he did by his authority as a MAN, not a sooperGodMan. Man's proper place in creation is as an arranger, caretaker and beneficent bender of the physical world. When Mankind stopped being "proper" Men and Women, they stopped being able to do those things.

s

BTW I tried the visual ray experiment but was myself unable to do it. Also my left amygdala seems to be very hard to stimulate. I have a root canal an inch or less from it in my head. Was the amygdala the part of the brain you were talking about, GFGUK?

[seamus]

Everytime I try to send death thoughts to Bush my throat tightens up.

Sometimes I have to apologize to make it stop.

Try it.

That's a stupid thing to do, albie. Try sending death thoughts to anyone. They will always come back on you, but some people are more protected than others. Presidents and Governors and such tend to be well-protected.

Don't think you can get away with sending out death. You are calling it to yourself as you send it out. Don't you know the Universal Law?

s

[edelweiss pirate]

Give an example of you controlling weather.

Shouldn't you be out in Africa soaking their plants?

I've experienced odd events. Such as conjuring small demons and affecting electricity. You name it, I've done it.

Not sure it was me though. Or mad coincidence. Or god. Or "insert choice".

As it happens I am in Africa, Egypt as a matter of fact... and it rains when I'm angry... As I said in another thread, the boss tried to take a shit on me the other day, I was really really angry.... then clouds started to appear and suddenly the sky was black... It rained all night.

When I was in London during 2005 I was in an extremely frustrating job with people who just fucked me about all day... As a result on the worst days there would be thunderstorms and lightning, and it would rain most everyday, but the thing was I never ever took an umbrella to work because as soon as my day was over the clouds would break up and the sun wouyld come streaming out. I never got wet. Incidentally this was the same time Blair's private plane got struck by lightning when he said "If I lied about Iraq may God strike me down..." anyone remember that?

When this stuff first started, believe me, I accepted EVERY OTHER POSSIBILTY OTHER THAN ME BEING 'POWERFUL'... I thought how can I do these things, surely then this is all fake and I'm being tested, noone around me is real and it's only me... and bullshit like that... I fucked myself up that way... Then I really broke through and reality just fell apart... It was a nightmare, it got to a point where I would think a thought and someone would say what I was thinking a few seconds later... Like I'd made them say it... I thought god knows what, then I learned to handle it, signed up on the original David Icke forum and found I wasn't alone... Now I feel that all this stuff is perfectly normal and has been going on for thousands of years, it's just been 'kept' from people....

It's no big deal and the sooner people realise this the sooner they'll be able to do it too. As it goes 2012 I come from a rough part of town myself, and the people in town are aware of this power. I overheard a conversation between a couple of blokes where they talked about cursing people.

Of course that's quite a bad thing to do and it's a shame that the only knowledge people have of magic is black magic.... Still I think more people believe 'there's more to this world than meets the eye'.... if only they could chuck the TV away ('cept for Doctor Who which rocks).. then poeple wouldn't have their reality dictated to them and be told that the dullest most mind numbing mundane and tedious life, is reality...

My programme is to intervene whenever I feel there is some kind of 'threat' being circulated in the media.. I did this with the bird flu thing in 2004, they predicted the coldest winter of all time (perfect bird flu weather) I tried to manifest a warm winter... every morning I would fight the clouds away and let the sun burn through the sky, as it goes it was one of the warmest and brightest winters, 'sunlight' is the best tonic in the world...

I continually try to deescalate conflicts, am trying to prevent WW3 and the invasion of Iran... Help would be appreciated but I think I already have that... however it doesn't help that many people see war as inevitable, the masons actively 'want it'... even people here in Egypt think it's all gonna kick off soon... BUT it doesn't have to... If we can get the 'crititcal mass' of powerful people preventing war psychically then we will have stopped the millenia old insanity machine in its track and 'they' will have to think again...

That would be great wouldn't it?.... Just say 'bollocks' to all their stupid self fulfiling prophecies and their stupid 2,000 year old system written by bearded wild eyed madmen... Like when you were at school and you've had enough of the football game, you just took your ball back.. Let's take our fucking balls back...

War is over if you want it.... as a man said....

[tru3]

Why not use the matrix as a tool conciously to create with ?

Aother option to shutting it down or escaping it.

With LOVE.
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it seems that some believe that after 2012, the world will morph into a cotton candy landscape with gooey marshmallow skies.

somehow, i doubt it.

some unfortunate souls will probably remain trapped in a newer version of the matrix. that's where their consciousness gravitates towards: water always seeks its own level, so to speak.

i believe that many of those who understand conscious creation and "escape" will become something like bodhisattvas: beings who have promised to hang around for the liberation of all sentient being. latter day "neos"? i dunno :confused:

i don't have any delusions of granduer, mind you lol. there is not-two. so, on some fundamental level, part of "me" would still be trapped in the matrix.

there's more work to be done, but work will become play! :D

[edelweiss pirate]

What'll be our first executive act then... We could probably manifest a miracle somewhere in the world but would the BBC (for example) report it?

Any suggestions.....

[tru3]

What'll be our first executive act then... We could probably manifest a miracle somewhere in the world but would the BBC (for example) report it?

Any suggestions.....


when i've found myself stuck in my life, i have noticed that i first have to make the statement, "there's got to be a better way". until the critical mass of people say this to themselves, no change is possible, imv.

action follows energy follows attention follows awareness.

perhaps it might be as simple as putting out the intention that all secrets are revealed, all hearts are healed.

did anyone see "children of men"? phenomenal movie! the scene in the apartment building moved me to tears.

we could perhaps intend that all secrets around the pedophile/sex rings come to LIGHT. i believe this is the illuminati's achilles heel. it has the most potential, i feel, to galvanize the masses. they probably offed hunter thompson for his investigation into it. i believe larry king (savings and loan larry, not tv larry) is dead, too, although i could be mistaken.

at any rate, i agree with einstein: a problem can't be solved with the equation at hand; something new must be introduced. i believe that the quickening will allow conscious co-creation to become more powerful and encourage more rapid manifestation.

[synergy777]

Doesn't seem to far away from Remote Viewing and Lucid dreaming or some combination of.

has anyone got any info on lucid dreaming, i lucid dream, i need info/assistance, plz.

[markhowie]

i believe that the quickening will allow conscious co-creation to become more powerful and encourage more rapid manifestation.

Aloha
it feels so true that statement
and when i look around , it is happening.
here i go repeting it again....
the 7 principls of huna
alot of people dont belive it cos its to simple

KALA -There are no limits, everything is possible
MAKIA -Energy flows where attention goes
MANAWA -Now is the moment of power
ALOHA -To love is to be happy with
MANA -All power comes from within
PONO -Effectiveness is the measure of truth

@+ mark

[seamus]

What'll be our first executive act then... We could probably manifest a miracle somewhere in the world but would the BBC (for example) report it?

Any suggestions.....

How about rains starting up in Tucson, AZ? Look at this snippet from the National Weather Service... http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/twc/climate/holiday/easter.php

Easter - occurring in the month of April
Average high temperature: 82.0 degrees F
Average low temperature: 47.2 degrees F
Average precipitation: 0.03"
Record high temperature 96 degrees F on April 20, 1930
Record low temperature 35 degrees F on April 3, 1904
Record precipitation 0.81" on April 23, 1905
Since 1895 rainfall was recorded on seven Easters that were observed in April
easter is 38 days away as of today. Plenty of time to arrange a miracle.

if tucson got an inch of rain that would be a miracle in my book. :p

And as an added bonus, it would probably be widely reported. If 2 inches it would perhaps make world news. This place hasn't seen real rain since Reich was there with his cloudbuster.

s

[tru3]

Aloha
it feels so true that statement
and when i look around , it is happening.
here i go repeting it again....
the 7 principls of huna
alot of people dont belive it cos its to simple

KALA -There are no limits, everything is possible
MAKIA -Energy flows where attention goes
MANAWA -Now is the moment of power
ALOHA -To love is to be happy with
MANA -All power comes from within
PONO -Effectiveness is the measure of truth

@+ mark

i love it!!!! :) :) :)

mark,

one of our mentors spent many years in hawai'i and incorporated many of these principles into her teaching. she even taught my wife and i how to do the ho'o'pono'pono, a remarkably powerful exercise in forgiveness. i still perform it when i don't know what else to do. (my unahapili's name is tiger, btw. it has a secret name, too, but tiger's what it answers too.)

it seems to me we have a set of operating principles right here. it's hard to improve on what mark just laid out.

[i am all i am]

What about manifesting something that is perpetual ?

10,000 acres for a community where we continually manifest reality for the benefit of all.
A library for study and a sharing of knowledge.
A music studio for creative purposes in healing.
A healing centre.
A 'garden of eden', where we grow all of our own food.

Basically, a community that is an example for the world, showing everyone how we can live together in peace and harmony. We could manifest the money to buy the land and join resources to create the life that we choose. It could be set up as a charity so we were tax free. Even call the charity freedom.

Throwing the idea out there for discussion.

With LOVE.
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[tru3]

What about manifesting something that is perpetual ?

10,000 acres for a community where we continually manifest reality for the benefit of all.
A library for study and a sharing of knowledge.
A music studio for creative purposes in healing.
A healing centre.
A 'garden of eden', where we grow all of our own food.

Basically, a community that is an example for the world, showing everyone how we can live together in peace and harmony. We could manifest the money to buy the land and join resources to create the life that we choose. It could be set up as a charity so we were tax free. Even call the charity freedom.

Throwing the idea out there for discussion.

With LOVE.
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i am,

i think you know by now i respect your insights. i think this is an admirable vision. don't we all need a "big hairy audacious goal"?

forgive me, i'm thinking a little more modest first time 'round. i'm serious about doing this asap, y'all. Why not set something up, this coming week? a specified time, and a specified intention; whatever that intention is, we need to work together on an non-local energetic level. if we open ourselves to the possiblity of it actually manifesting, the joy of it, we may be surprised at what transpires. even if it doesn't, lately i have just really began to ask if the path itself isn't the goal. what's great about this forum is the diversity; so many different facets of Consciousness shining together!:)

we' got the people, we got the tools! -ghost busters :cool:

anybody open to the idea of doing a teleconference?

[albie]

Here's a crazy event that happened to me. I was stoned and walking through a busy street trying to send out a psychic message to anyone who could hear. After a few minutes I walked past a couple arguing.

I was still projecting and the bloke shouts to his wife "I'm not ******* psychic!" But as he's saying the word psychic it he's turning around and looking right in my eye.

:D

I tried this again a few months later, not stoned this time but loaded with McDonald's strawberry throat ache cold milkshake.

I was projecting "you are going nowhere." Over and over.

After a few minutes this middle aged women comes crashing to my feet, having tripped over a kerb.

She was literally going nowhere.

I don't do this much now. Magic always seems to have negative results for me. Like the time I challenged an evil presence to a fight and was chased by something small and with claws down my hallway.

I didn't see it. It was behind me, and I was running. I could just hear it on the lino.:eek:

[limelady]

i am,

i think you know by now i respect your insights. i think this is an admirable vision. don't we all need a "big hairy audacious goal"?

forgive me, i'm thinking a little more modest first time 'round. i'm serious about doing this asap, y'all. Why not set something up, this coming week? a specified time, and a specified intention; whatever that intention is, we need to work together on an non-local energetic level. if we open ourselves to the possiblity of it actually manifesting, the joy of it, we may be surprised at what transpires. even if it doesn't, lately i have just really began to ask if the path itself isn't the goal. what's great about this forum is the diversity; so many different facets of Consciousness shining together!:)

we' got the people, we got the tools! -ghost busters :cool:

anybody open to the idea of doing a teleconference?

tru3 I LOVE this idea and you can count me in!

Any thoughts on what you'd like to manifest? Another major crack in the 9/11 debacle perhaps? Or maybe we could manifest one of the major beasties doing an unwitting shape-shift into reppy form at a press conference or something? Now that would be fun :D

I am open to suggestions and will go along with the majority on this one, so put your thinking caps on folks!

I'm in for a teleconference too, but you'll have to explain to me how to go about this.

LL

[i_am]

What about manifesting something that is perpetual ?

10,000 acres for a community where we continually manifest reality for the benefit of all.
A library for study and a sharing of knowledge.
A music studio for creative purposes in healing.
A healing centre.
A 'garden of eden', where we grow all of our own food.

Basically, a community that is an example for the world, showing everyone how we can live together in peace and harmony. We could manifest the money to buy the land and join resources to create the life that we choose. It could be set up as a charity so we were tax free. Even call the charity freedom.

Throwing the idea out there for discussion.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.


This has been a dream of mine for at least 10 years. It hasn't manifested yet but maybe with a combined effort who knows? There are such communities around but the ones I looked into didn't have the right vibe and too many egos were involved.

[limelady]

I didn't see it. It was behind me, and I was running. I could just hear it on the lino.

Geez albie, what the heck were you on that night??....I'll make a point of NEVER taking it! :eek: :eek: :eek:

No seriously, you do have to be very careful you don't get bitten (literally) when you start manifesting little other-dimensional beasties into 3D.

Take care albie, and for gawk sake watch your butt! :D

[neondestiny]

I like your idea I am all I am, but agree with true that we should start a little smaller.
Sort of "off" topic but noticed on the front page that David is asking for donations for his legal defence fund, can anyone tell me what that is about?
If he is in some sort of legal trouble, just an idea that we could focus our intent upon a positive outcome for him. Something a bit smaller and a worthy cause if that is the case.
Just an idea

[albie]

Geez albie, what the heck were you on that night??....

I was stoned. On dope. But this was at the end of my stone age (if you will). so it wasn't getting me high anymore.

The presence was my fear of a room I never used due to it being damp. It became a dumping ground for old video players.

I was so scared of this room that I'd carry a knife to go to the kitchen.

This room was at the end of a long hallway. I turned my back on the door, reached upward with my mind, challenged the fear, then started to hear claws scurrying from the door.

I managed to not poo my strides as I ran to my living room and slammed the door. Very scary.

I think I met it before, years earlier while I was living in my uncles' residential home (don't ask). He was a racist, despite having a grandmother from India, and I didn't like him much. He had these ducks that he loved in his back yard. One day I sat down and imagined myself into a kind of small animal like a weasle or something, and ran about the ducks killing them.

And the next day most of them were dead! An urban fox or something had gotten in and slaugtered some of them.

Around the time it had happened I was in bed listening to a late night talk radio show. Had this guy on talking about meditation. I tried one of his techniques as he described it, visualising a white beam entering my solar plexus.

Like I said, around that time of night the ducks were killed as I'd imagined.

Coincidence? I'm open minded about it merely being coincidence.

Blimey what a coincidence though!:confused:

[edelweiss pirate]

I have changed a Police officers gun to wood and controlled the weather.

We are all opening up to the truth of who we are and what we are capable of. There is a progression going on and each and everyone of one us are going through this progression through choice. As you believe for your self, so shall it be. If you believe that someone cannot do something, then for you that becomes your reality and you will not be able to do that something for you are someone. What you believe becomes your experience.
.

I'd like to hear your story.... I reckon with those credentials you'd be pretty good on the team...

However, Tru3 there is no requirement, as yet, for an 'amazing orgazmo'... but we'll keep your file on our database in case a vacancy comes up...

[tru3]

I'd like to hear your story.... I reckon with those credentials you'd be pretty good on the team...

However, Tru3 there is no requirement, as yet, for an 'amazing orgazmo'... but we'll keep your file on our database in case a vacancy comes up...

thanks, e. why do the think they call 'em X men? lol :D always trying to be of service!

[seamus]

What about manifesting something that is perpetual ?

10,000 acres for a community where we continually manifest reality for the benefit of all.
A library for study and a sharing of knowledge.
A music studio for creative purposes in healing.
A healing centre.
A 'garden of eden', where we grow all of our own food.

Basically, a community that is an example for the world, showing everyone how we can live together in peace and harmony. We could manifest the money to buy the land and join resources to create the life that we choose. It could be set up as a charity so we were tax free. Even call the charity freedom.


Love it. In fact I live it. We don't have 10,000 acres yet. But we have a bunch (30-35) of communities. We have a community in Devon, and one in the Sydney area, and a bunch in the States. Actually we're in 9 countries. I don't want to proselytize on the forum so if you are interested in a LOVE centered commune (common purse) type of environment, PM me. We do believe in the bible, but realize that it has been tampered with.

s

[21_12_2012]

I really cannot believe that this thread is still going !

Also, I am totally astonished as to just how many gullible people believe the 'rubbish' that is being talked about on here regarding 'superhuman' powers !

Where i come from, we say it 'as it is'.....and this is 'how it is' :-

We ALL live in this reality that has now come to be referred to as 'the matrix'
We are ALL subject to the same rules of this matrix (ALL OF US)
These laws include :-
NOT being able to change a police officers gun into wood
NOT being able to stop cars with our minds
NOT being able to manifest UFOs in the sky
NOT being able to change the weather with our minds

Has anybody heard of coincidences? (the police man happened to take out his wooden baton from his belt..and i thought it would have been a gun)......(i tried to stop the car with my mind..and coincidentally it was going to stop anyway..so it stopped).....(i imagined a UFO appearing in the sky...and coincidentally...a plane that looked like a UFO came from behind a cloud).....(i imagined what it would be like to rain...and coincidentally...it rained that same minute)

I am the first person to admit that crystals and orgonite can in fact affect orgone/chi/prana energy (whatever you want to call it)....which in turn can affect clouds...i do not have a problem with that....
BUT
When people come on here making out that they are somehow special and the rules of the matrix don't apply to them...and they have abilities to turn guns into wood...manifest UFOs....stop cars with their minds...and all the rest of the 'rubbish' which anyone with half a braincell can see is complete 'rubbish',.....then that's when i DO HAVE A PROBLEM with these ridiculous claims.
Someone tell us all what is so special about them that they can turn guns into wood...manifest UFOs....whatever...how come you can do it yet nobody else on earth can?....
answer=you can't...so stop lying....and stop trying to impress people...or disinform people.
If you or anyone else could do these 'remarkable feats'...do you think you'd go all around the david icke forum telling everyone about it?....no....
....youd be on tv or something getting paid ridiculous amounts of money for being able to do things that NOBODY else can do.....so....face it...it's all 'nonsense' that is being talked about on here.

The ONLY way people would be able to do the things that are being claimed have been done on this thread, would be if the human race actually got past this matrix onto the next level (many refer to this as ascension)...and we HAVE NOT GOT THERE YET...so why would it be possible for some people to be able to do these things?...it wouldnt be would it....

Some people live by this saying:- "its all an illusion.....if you believe you can do such and such a thing then that will become your illusion....if you believe you cannot do such and such a thing then that will become your illusion"
As we say in Manchester....bollocks.....i could sit here all week...all month...all year...believing i can fly....and would i be able to fly after that 12 months....no...i wouldnt....why not?....because neither i or ANYONE else can bend the rules in this matrix....and we are all held down by collective unconsciouce.....
Theres no changing guns into wood...theres no manifesting UFO's.....there's no stopping cars with the mind...theres no changing the weather with the mind.....(other wise there would be no droughts....and perfect weather)
So let's get real eh....and stop talking 'rubbish' because i for one do not believe a word of any of it !
So try and do your experiment to prove that you in fact can bend the rules of the matrix...and we'll see just how successful it is....
the best of Manchester luck to you all !

[seamus]

Art Bell (the radio host) used to do these mass consciousness experiments a few years back. He stopped doing them when his group actually manifested a serious storm.


s

[notaslave]

Love it. In fact I live it. We don't have 10,000 acres yet. But we have a bunch (30-35) of communities. We have a community in Devon, and one in the Sydney area, and a bunch in the States. Actually we're in 9 countries. I don't want to proselytize on the forum so if you are interested in a LOVE centered commune (common purse) type of environment, PM me. We do believe in the bible, but realize that it has been tampered with.

s

Yes I am interested in doing a similar thing in UK but I am not in any way religious.

[tru3]

tru3 I LOVE this idea and you can count me in!

Any thoughts on what you'd like to manifest? Another major crack in the 9/11 debacle perhaps? Or maybe we could manifest one of the major beasties doing an unwitting shape-shift into reppy form at a press conference or something? Now that would be fun :D

I am open to suggestions and will go along with the majority on this one, so put your thinking caps on folks!

I'm in for a teleconference too, but you'll have to explain to me how to go about this.

LL


splendid! we have the beginning of what appears to be a quorum. i have a friend who's done quite a few teleconferences. i can find out from him who has the best price (i'll discretely ask about secure lines as well lol). a couple of points:

*time*

we have folks in the uk, the us/canada, and australia, and points in between. truly a global task force! how do we manage the time zone issue?

since north america is kind of in between, and i tend to be a night owl anyway, i would suggest setting up uk on first shift, australia on second shift, and us flatlanders in the us on third shift. anybody out there got a time zone map? this is not my strong point...

*objective*

what would our intention be for this call? i feel like we need to lay a groundwork on a couple of things. since most of us are fiercely independant, this may take some time to hash out. do there have to be any rules? the more rules, the more outlaws are created. and it's been my experience that working with other "like-minded" people is kind of like herding cats lol :)

i'll throw this into the ring: i believe we need at least a framework to build a common vision. personally, i really like markhowie's:

KALA -There are no limits, everything is possible
MAKIA -Energy flows where attention goes
MANAWA -Now is the moment of power
ALOHA -To love is to be happy with
MANA -All power comes from within
PONO -Effectiveness is the measure of truth

the huna tradition and heritage is extremely potent, based on everything i have learned; we certainly could do worse! mark seems ready to "bend", as he put it, and so am i. the main thing is to avoid picking nits and get on to the "business" at hand, imo. anythoughts on this?

*actual intention*

i like your spirit, limelady (and yer av's not bad either lol). here's another idea:

I like your idea I am all I am, but agree with true that we should start a little smaller.
Sort of "off" topic but noticed on the front page that David is asking for donations for his legal defence fund, can anyone tell me what that is about?
If he is in some sort of legal trouble, just an idea that we could focus our intent upon a positive outcome for him. Something a bit smaller and a worthy cause if that is the case.
Just an idea

the reason that this is appealing to me is that it's specific, measurable, achievable, and consistent with most everyone here's goals and aspirations. "visualizing whirled peas", as one popular bumper sticker says, is too fuzzy for what we're attemping here, i think.

Art Bell (the radio host) used to do these mass consciousness experiments a few years back. He stopped doing them when his group actually manifested a serious storm.

i heard about that, too. seamus, do you think you can find more information about this? exactly what their purpose was and what they were actually doing in the experiements? i feel it's important we become a "learning organization". i think everyone can agree that before anything else comes harmlessness.

so, to recap: 1) nail down the time for the teleconference; hold the teleconference to hash out 2) a framework or "template" if you will (or lack thereof), and 3) what the intention should be.

maybe we don't really need the phone. as far as i'm concerned points 2 and 3 are acceptable. then only 1) remains: when to actually join and create. (note: the date may turn out to be auspicious too; any suggestions on that?).

let's do this, guys! :)

[i_am]

splendid! *time*

we have folks in the uk, the us/canada, and australia, and points in between. truly a global task force! how do we manage the time zone issue?

since north america is kind of in between, and i tend to be a night owl anyway, i would suggest setting up uk on first shift, australia on second shift, and us flatlanders in the us on third shift. anybody out there got a time zone map? this is not my strong point...
:)

Download this http://www.carefile.com/WorldClock/

It is excellent. One click on anywhere on the map gives you the time there. It even allows for daylight saving. Right click anywhere and it gives you all of the preferences. There is even a four zone multiple clock to set up for different zones as well as the regular two zone. I have the regular one set on my time plus UTC and the four zone one for other parts of the world.


BTW, Count me in too.

[quelyn]

I really cannot believe that this thread is still going !

Also, I am totally astonished as to just how many gullible people believe the 'rubbish' that is being talked about on here regarding 'superhuman' powers !

Where i come from, we say it 'as it is'.....and this is 'how it is' :-

We ALL live in this reality that has now come to be referred to as 'the matrix'
We are ALL subject to the same rules of this matrix (ALL OF US)
These laws include :-
NOT being able to change a police officers gun into wood
NOT being able to stop cars with our minds
NOT being able to manifest UFOs in the sky
NOT being able to change the weather with our minds

Has anybody heard of coincidences? (the police man happened to take out his wooden baton from his belt..and i thought it would have been a gun)......(i tried to stop the car with my mind..and coincidentally it was going to stop anyway..so it stopped).....(i imagined a UFO appearing in the sky...and coincidentally...a plane that looked like a UFO came from behind a cloud).....(i imagined what it would be like to rain...and coincidentally...it rained that same minute)

I am the first person to admit that crystals and orgonite can in fact affect orgone/chi/prana energy (whatever you want to call it)....which in turn can affect clouds...i do not have a problem with that....
BUT
When people come on here making out that they are somehow special and the rules of the matrix don't apply to them...and they have abilities to turn guns into wood...manifest UFOs....stop cars with their minds...and all the rest of the 'rubbish' which anyone with half a braincell can see is complete 'rubbish',.....then that's when i DO HAVE A PROBLEM with these ridiculous claims.
Someone tell us all what is so special about them that they can turn guns into wood...manifest UFOs....whatever...how come you can do it yet nobody else on earth can?....
answer=you can't...so stop lying....and stop trying to impress people...or disinform people.
If you or anyone else could do these 'remarkable feats'...do you think you'd go all around the david icke forum telling everyone about it?....no....
....youd be on tv or something getting paid ridiculous amounts of money for being able to do things that NOBODY else can do.....so....face it...it's all 'nonsense' that is being talked about on here.

The ONLY way people would be able to do the things that are being claimed have been done on this thread, would be if the human race actually got past this matrix onto the next level (many refer to this as ascension)...and we HAVE NOT GOT THERE YET...so why would it be possible for some people to be able to do these things?...it wouldnt be would it....

Some people live by this saying:- "its all an illusion.....if you believe you can do such and such a thing then that will become your illusion....if you believe you cannot do such and such a thing then that will become your illusion"
As we say in Manchester....bollocks.....i could sit here all week...all month...all year...believing i can fly....and would i be able to fly after that 12 months....no...i wouldnt....why not?....because neither i or ANYONE else can bend the rules in this matrix....and we are all held down by collective unconsciouce.....
Theres no changing guns into wood...theres no manifesting UFO's.....there's no stopping cars with the mind...theres no changing the weather with the mind.....(other wise there would be no droughts....and perfect weather)
So let's get real eh....and stop talking 'rubbish' because i for one do not believe a word of any of it !
So try and do your experiment to prove that you in fact can bend the rules of the matrix...and we'll see just how successful it is....
the best of Manchester luck to you all !
WHY so offended?????????????????/


You don't have to continue to read this info. Each to his own, mate!

With good intent,

Namaste'

[21_12_2012]

WHY so offended?????????????????/


You don't have to continue to read this info. Each to his own, mate!

With good intent,

Namaste'

If you want to call it offended, i would rather say shocked that this ridiculous thread is still going... real x-men...yep...right...and i am the real santa claus.

The David Icke forum in my opinion is to educate people as to what is going on in the world and what is being hidden from us all, and how to expose all this .... etc.
It isn't a place for talking complete bollocks, what help does that do?
Absolutely nothing really.
But..if you people want to believe in changing guns into wood..manifesting UFO's, stopping cars with your mind, changing the weather...well...it's your spare time....use it as you see fit !

[limelady]

Hello all,

Well it seems certain people are not happy with our further discussions on the nature of reality, innate human potential, and the proposed idea to conduct a group experiment. So what I've decided to do is start a new thread titled The Forum Experiment. Anyone offended or non-supportive of our proposed idea to attempt an experiment may find it advisable to avoid viewing this new thread if doing so will prompt them to post comments explaining their disdain for the subject matter. I suggest we attempt to keep the new threat JUST for disuciing the setting up of the experiment.

However, I will leave this thread open so anybody with an axe to grind about what we're proposing can still post their comments here.

Sound fair?

Lime

[neondestiny]

maybe we don't really need the phone. as far as i'm concerned points 2 and 3 are acceptable. then only 1) remains: when to actually join and create. (note: the date may turn out to be auspicious too; any suggestions on that?).

In the wiccan tradition we are heading for the Autumn equinox (mabon) here in the Southern Hemisphere on the 20-23rd of March in the Northern Hemisphere it will correspond with Spring Equinox (Ostara) (Autumn-time of harvest Spring-time of renewal)
There will also be a New Moon on the 19th, which is lucky as this is the best lunar energy for this kind of manifest (anything new for the new moon ;) ) (lunar energies are at their height 3 days prior and 3 days after the 19th)

Numerology for the date 21/03/2007=6

6 represents-domestic and personal harmony
keywords-Harmony, beauty, nurturing, love, marriage, family, responsibility, understanding, sympathy, healing, empathic, perfectionist, order, duty, comfort, service

Numerology for the date 22/03/2007=7

7 represents-luck and is a spiritual number
keywords-Philosopher, sage, wisdom seeker, reserved, inventor, stoic, contemplative, aloof, deep-thinker, introspective, spiritual, faith, esoteric, exotic, unusual, hidden, seeking perfection, ethereal, other worldly, enigma

Numerology for the date 23/03/2007=
8 represents-spiritual success and material attainment
keywords-Achievement, abundance, executive, strength, self-disciplined, power, success, authority, psychology, entrepreneur, intensity, supervisor, provider, grandeur, material manifestor

March is also the time of New beginnings

Hope this helps, just let me know what you decide, I am up for it ;)
neon

[limelady]

i like your spirit, limelady (and yer av's not bad either lol).

Thanks tru3 - As part of my free-spirited nature I like to have a change of clothes at least once a week....otherwise I become bored. ;)

[21_12_2012]

Hello all,

Well it seems certain people are not happy with our further discussions on the nature of reality, innate human potential, and the proposed idea to conduct a group experiment. So what I've decided to do is start a new thread titled The Forum Experiment. Anyone offended or non-supportive of our proposed idea to attempt an experiment may find it advisable to avoid viewing this new thread if doing so will prompt them to post comments explaining their disdain for the subject matter. I suggest we attempt to keep the new threat JUST for disuciing the setting up of the experiment.

However, I will leave this thread open so anybody with an axe to grind about what we're proposing can still post their comments here.

Sound fair?

Lime

"Anyone offended or non-supportive of our proposed idea to attempt an experiment may find it advisable to avoid viewing this new thread if doing so will prompt them to post comments explaining their disdain for the subject matter"
Disdain for the subject matter? That's twisting the truth to say the least.
Let's be honest and say it as-it-is:-

"anyone who does not want to believe that people can change policemens guns into wood...manifest UFO's out of thin air...stop traffic with their minds....and create weather with their minds....or finds this in the least bit 'bullshitty', then we would rather you not say so because we want to believe in it"
Sounds closer to the truth to me.

I have no disdain of the subject matter...i just express ridicule towards the subject matter..because that's what it is..ridiciulous !

[teslafire]

It is ridiculous, but its also true! That's what makes it so fucking trippy.

I understand where you're coming from 2012, I set out some years ago to write a satire on "magical consciousness" and took a beginner's reiki class to absorb source material...I walked in with a snigger, but when the teacher started doing initiations I immediately felt the energy...now I'm a full on energy propagadist and I proseyltize the gospel where-ever I roam.

Well not as fiercely as I once did because I was rather rude and unforgiving about people's personal choices and space, thinking I had the truth or something insane.

With some experience behind me, and I'd like to think some refinement gained I note that in reality my knowledge of such energies really has only given me 100 times more mysteries to ponder, meaning I constantly realize how much I don't know. It can be humbling.

[tru3]

Hello all,

Well it seems certain people are not happy with our further discussions on the nature of reality, innate human potential, and the proposed idea to conduct a group experiment. So what I've decided to do is start a new thread titled The Forum Experiment. Anyone offended or non-supportive of our proposed idea to attempt an experiment may find it advisable to avoid viewing this new thread if doing so will prompt them to post comments explaining their disdain for the subject matter. I suggest we attempt to keep the new threat JUST for disuciing the setting up of the experiment.

However, I will leave this thread open so anybody with an axe to grind about what we're proposing can still post their comments here.

Sound fair?

Lime

you're more than welcome to spectate, 2012...;)

[seamus]

I think the time is ripe for someone to start an IRC channel. maybe invite-only, to people who express interest via this thread. or at least use a pass-word, as in, someone comes in the chat room and immediately is asked, "pass word?" if they answer wrong, *boot*.

I would volunteer to host it but I don't have the tee-eye-double-em-ee

(free bonus point if you can guess the reference, it's mutated)

s

[seamus]

Oh yeah, 20_12_2012...

No one is claiming any super human powers. The powers being talked about here are all in the realm of HUMAN. Real humans can manifest things. You're so used to thinking you are a complete human, you're finding it hard to believe there can be something more to it. Open your mind a bit, mate.


s

[i am all i am]

G'day 2012,

The fact that you have paid attention to this thread means that you have given it energy. Thank you.

"I cannot believe that this thread is still going !"

IF YOUR BELIEF IS OPPOSED TO ANYTHING, THEN YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND UNABLE TO SEE THAT WHICH YOU ARE OPPOSED TO.

YOUR BELIEF ALLOWS YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND SEE THAT WHICH YOU BELIEVE IN, HERE AND NOW, WITHIN THE PHYSICAL.

THEREFORE, BELIEVING WILL ALLOW YOU TO SEE, AND THAT WHICH YOU SEE IS A CONFIRMATION OF WHAT IT IS YOU BELIEVE.

Even though you see that the thread is still going, you cannot believe it. This is because you are opposed to the idea of this thread.

"When people come on here making out that they are somehow special..."

As a matter of fact, I am special. Although, I am no more special than you or anyone else. I have simply stated what I have done. You can choose to believe it or not, that is your choice, but to tell me that I am lying is merely an accusation. Without having been there to experience the event, you are attempting to tell me what took place.

Please understand that I am not here to impress you. Actually, I freely admit that whatever you or anyone else thinks of me is merely your choice, something that I have nothing to do with. Your thoughts, your words and your actions are your choice to express and experience yourself, as mine are my choice.

I BELIEVE

YOU HAVE THE POWER TO BE,
WHO YOU CHOOSE TO BE,
YOUR VISION YOU WILL ACHIEVE,
IN YOU I BELIEVE.

FROM INSIDE COMES CLARITY,
YOURSELF YOU CAN SEE,
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT NAIVE,
IN YOU I BELIEVE.

IT'S YOUR LOVE YOU DEMONSTRATE,
WHEN YOURSELF YOU CREATE,
YOUR DESTINY TO ACHIEVE,
IN YOU I BELIEVE.


Please accept this poem as what it is I believe of you 2012.


With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[neondestiny]

I am not going to verbally bash you 2012, all I have to say is that you have every right to be skeptical, it is ultimately your choice. I am not here to make a believer out of you, only you can change your perception.
I agree with I am that we ALL have these latent human powers inside of us, and no-one is more special than the next because of this.
You said that if any of us had "super human" powers we would be rich and famous, well perhaps some do follow that path, personally I and many others don't.
Money and recognition from other people with money means stuff all to me, it is a matrix illusion anyway, there is much more important stuff to focus on than riches and fame ;)

[tru3]

I am not going to verbally bash you 2012, all I have to say is that you have every right to be skeptical, it is ultimately your choice. I am not here to make a believer out of you, only you can change your perception.
I agree with I am that we ALL have these latent human powers inside of us, and no-one is more special than the next because of this.
You said that if any of us had "super human" powers we would be rich and famous, well perhaps some do follow that path, personally I and many others don't.
Money and recognition from other people with money means stuff all to me, it is a matrix illusion anyway, there is much more important stuff to focus on than riches and fame ;)

dear 20,

we may fall flat on our asses and come crawling back to the x-men thread, hats in hand. the next you see me may be on the moons of orion lol. maybe. personally, my intention is to remain free of attachment of the outcome.

i could tell you of a tornado that was moving in an easterly direction, moving directly towards my little double-wide trailer, about 30 miles away. we sat and watched on the super dooper pooper scooper doppler radar on tv.

i could tell you that i went out in our yard, faced west, and put a large golden dome over my house and several neighbors houses as i said the words, "we are divinely protected."

i could tell you that we sat and watched the tornado make a 90 degree turn and head south, oh , maybe about 4-5 miles from our home.

i could tell you that, but, nah, you'd never buy it. ;)

you know the best poker player's in the world don't really think of their chips as money, don't you? they think of them as opportunities to reveal the minds of their opponents. they could be playing for matchsticks and still play with the same level of intensity.

so, as far as i'm concerned, i'm just playing in the sandbox! work becomes play! :)

[notaslave]

Excuse my ignorance I didnt even know what X-men were supposed to be but I knew it was a film. I dont tend to watch a lot of movies, however I am getting the gist of it from this thread.

As for tornadoes hurricanes etc, I think I would head for the hills rather than trust my thinking could affect it. I am on the site not to laugh at people who have different beliefs from mine but to find more info on 9/11 etc to help free my fellow citizens who live in poverty under what is basically becoming tyranny.

But each to their own.

[limelady]

I can see you point notaslave. Many people would have fled rather than risk facing a tornado. However tru3 decided to stay and protect his home because thus is the level of his understanding.

I probably would have helped get any kids and elderly to safety (just in case) then gone back to give him a hand, because thus is the level of my own understanding.

As you say, each to their own ;)

[21_12_2012]

OK, fair enough, I can see everybody's point of view regarding this thread (and the new thread about the experiment)
What it is with me is this:-
Since getting into David Icke-related material several years ago, and conspiracy-related material, it makes you realise just how much we have been lied to throughout our lives. So, now i have 'a problem' with believing people with 'far out' claims.
I'm not saying i think everyone is a liar, and i am not closed-minded in the least, in fact quite the opposite. I do not even need to see proof of most things in order for me to actually believe they could be possible....but...when it comes to stuff like:- psychokenisis, telepathy, and extra-sensory powers, i am skeptical...even though i know there are a very small amount of people in the world who may be able to achieve such things (due to their DNA or brains being different from the rest of us)
I am aware of the weather experiment that was performed in florida once to make it rain, but also i am skeptical about these experiments too...it could all have happened by coincidence.
But anyway, i will watch your experiment with interest, and in fact i do hope it is successful, because i would like nothing better than to realise we ALL have powers like this that we may be able to tap into.

[i am all i am]

G'day 2012,

Thank you for your kind words and your support.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[21_12_2012]

G'day 2012,

Thank you for your kind words and your support.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

No problem, i realise there are many positive, well-meaning and kind-hearted people on this forum.
I find it hard to fully trust anybody over the internet, time will tell.

[i am all i am]

Trust in people to be the way that they are until they show you otherwise. The one thing that I can recommend to always trust is yourself.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[tru3]

Trust in people to be the way that they are until they show you otherwise. The one thing that I can recommend to always trust is yourself.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

exactly. well said,

20,

the last thing i am advocating is for you to go out and duplicate anything i post. that would be arrogant on my part, and foolish for you. you don't believe it, so you couldn't "do" it. ("i" didn't "do" anything anyway except petition one of "god's" law-- that which i believe i attract).

i live in the country. i have two neighbors within 3 miles, and no basement or inside rooms in my house. i honestly had nothing to lose. and, i just didn't worry about it. i "knew" everything was going to be ok.

but there's no way to know the intensity of that belief until the results show up. i could have been sitting there scratching my head in a pile of splinters.

i always judge by results: often harsh, but always fair.

p.s. i've been to a native american corn ceremony (rain dance). guess what dude: that day, it rained...

meanwhile, tornadoes ripped through alabama yesterday, while the great lakes lay in a grip of icy storms.

in kentucy, right in between, we had blue skies and 50 degrees. just lucky, i guess.

[21_12_2012]

I do know about the power of attraction and the power of belief, but i have had no results myself. I have been using the power of attraction for a while but have seen no results yet anyway.
This doesn't mean that 'the power of attraction' and belief is not true, i just haven't had any results from it.
What got to me on here was people saying the masons have lots of power and 'know everything'. This seemed to me like some kind of 'fear-mongering'.
I personally do not think the masons have any special powers whatsoever, even at top level (or very few at the most)
I believe masons are lied to all the way up the scale, and nothing 'special' is ever revealed to them which can be of help to them regarding 'special powers'
So, this in turn makes me skeptical of 'non-masons' having 'special powers'.
I do not have fear of masons, no matter how high up they are, or illuminati or in fact anything or anyone, but i do not like that fact that some people think that masons have 'super human' or special powers or knowledge....if they did then surely they would be using these powers against us 'normal humans', and surely some of these secrets would have leaked out by now to the 'normal people'
It just all sounds too 'far-out' to me, but i am open minded enough to accept the fact that it could be true. I am not a skeptic in general, i am the opposite, but when it comes to the subject of 'special powers' i think this is the only area where i am actually skeptical.
But i do hope to see this turn around in the future....although i am not banking on it...but i do hope so.

[tru3]

I do know about the power of attraction and the power of belief, but i have had no results myself. I have been using the power of attraction for a while but have seen no results yet anyway.
This doesn't mean that 'the power of attraction' and belief is not true, i just haven't had any results from it.
What got to me on here was people saying the masons have lots of power and 'know everything'. This seemed to me like some kind of 'fear-mongering'.
I personally do not think the masons have any special powers whatsoever, even at top level (or very few at the most)
I believe masons are lied to all the way up the scale, and nothing 'special' is ever revealed to them which can be of help to them regarding 'special powers'
So, this in turn makes me skeptical of 'non-masons' having 'special powers'.
I do not have fear of masons, no matter how high up they are, or illuminati or in fact anything or anyone, but i do not like that fact that some people think that masons have 'super human' or special powers or knowledge....if they did then surely they would be using these powers against us 'normal humans', and surely some of these secrets would have leaked out by now to the 'normal people'
It just all sounds too 'far-out' to me, but i am open minded enough to accept the fact that it could be true. I am not a skeptic in general, i am the opposite, but when it comes to the subject of 'special powers' i think this is the only area where i am actually skeptical.
But i do hope to see this turn around in the future....although i am not banking on it...but i do hope so.

i think i see where you're coming from. you're actually putting the law of attraction into operation: you refuse to give the masons any power because you don't believe in them. so as far as i'm concerned, you're benefitting all of us! thank you! :)

i've said this more than once on this forum: what's dicey about manifestation is that, from what i've learned, only about 10% of our awarness is conscious (the other 90% being tapped into the collective unconscious, also called "race consciousness"). if i am "trying" to manifest money and my parents taught me from a tender age that "money is the root of all evil" or i was brutalized by the effects of poverty, then i have to address this belief system and essentially nueter it before i will ever manifest more money.

unfortunately, there are no silver bullets, imv; i state my intention, let go of the outcome, and wait for the results to show up--with positive expectation!

i hope that makes sense...

[neondestiny]

No problem, i realise there are many positive, well-meaning and kind-hearted people on this forum.
I find it hard to fully trust anybody over the internet, time will tell.

I am the same, because I know for fact that peadophiles and negative people use the internet.

I do try to live by the following rule though when it comes to trusting people.
I always give a second chance but never a third.
"fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

As far as money goes and manifestation- my core belief is that the universe will always provide for me all I will ever need.
Having said that for many years I have carried around the same $100 bill in my purse, and strangely (coincidently) I have never had to spend it, and my purse is never empty.
It did take me a long time though to accept money, I used to believe that if I manifested money for myself that I was being selfish and I was taking it from someone else, so up until I changed that belief I was always broke.

Lots of love and light to you 2012, thank you for keeping an open mind :)

[tru3]

No problem, i realise there are many positive, well-meaning and kind-hearted people on this forum.
I find it hard to fully trust anybody over the internet, time will tell.

I am the same, because I know for fact that peadophiles and negative people use the internet.

I do try to live by the following rule though when it comes to trusting people.
I always give a second chance but never a third.
"fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

As far as money goes and manifestation- my core belief is that the universe will always provide for me all I will ever need.
Having said that for many years I have carried around the same $100 bill in my purse, and strangely (coincidently) I have never had to spend it, and my purse is never empty.
It did take me a long time though to accept money, I used to believe that if I manifested money for myself that I was being selfish and I was taking it from someone else, so up until I changed that belief I was always broke.

Lots of love and light to you 2012, thank you for keeping an open mind :)

neon,

you're very fortunate to have this belief. my wife is an incredible manifester: she believes there will always be money! lucky me! lol :)

i have money issues, personally. when i was very young, my parents had fights about it all the time. money, to my toddler mind, didn't sound like much fun to me!

now, when it comes to health, i never get sick. i remembered my dad telling me a story about taking me to school with him when i was about 14 months old. he carried me under his arm out on a cold morning, started the car. he would turn to me and say, "you don't get sick; we don't have any insurance".

well, guess what? i don't get sick, and i HATE insurance companies! lol :D

so, i guess we all have lessons and blessings. namaste.

[r e m]

I apologise if I'm digging up old threads, I've been doing a lot of catch up reading, & this subject is very important to me.

Firstly, excellent thread edelweiss pirate Sir. We should all pay heed. I totally agree, we're all responsible for manifesting our realities, some still without their conscious knowledge. There's just one more frontier, which is full control of the subconscious (which is probably the strongest engine in manifesting reality). Not just a few lucid dreams here & there but the ability to shape our dreams consciously. The sense we have no control of our environment or feelings, is hammered into us all from day one. When really it's as simple as controlling our thoughts, programming our own subconscious to believe what we really want.

I'm unsure if the BBC would cover something like someone's supernatural abilities, I would like to think any freelance journalist would jump at the chance. I just don't know who would have the final say as to what gets 'in the cut' & what doesn't, & just how deep the manipulation in the media goes.

Yet if someone had any say at the BBC, perhaps a doco on reptiles?, they could explore what homo-sapiens have in common with reptiles. Like the reptilian complex of our brain, the cerebellum, corpus striatum, & the medulla, which is directly connected to our nervous system, & therefore a big influence on the manifestation process. This part of our brain is responsible regulating our breathing, heat-rate, temperature & for all chemicals that the subconscious interprets as feelings of fear or love. Our built in survival system if you will (AKA fight or flight responses). Could even suggest how far too often we flex this ego oriented part of the brain in the justification of greed, power, money & influence. I basically think that these aspects of our chemistry have a big influence on our subconscious brain.

Just imagine if we were falsely indoctrinated to accept reality as something dangerous or to be feared, like the fear of God for example?, it would magnify all types of fears, insecurities, anger, guilt & so on. We'd find ourselves trapped in a never ending cycle of primitive behaviours such as divide & conquer. Haven't we come a long way?

Anything to wake people to the fact that we're all creating this reality.. the more info people hear must aid us all in taking responsibility for the worlds problems.

The subconscious is an amazing tool, that a lot of us take for granted, it's only our dream weaver, some say. Yet the subconscious & it's language of feelings can do awesome stuff, like give us supernatural strength, the ability to feel no pain when under physical assault. It can even change our sight to black & white only, in situations of immediate danger (like a near miss road accident), which increases the eyes ability to see more 'frames' perse', enabling faster reactions. It literally increases the brains speed in which it interprets light protons, just as world rally champions drive with their subconscious brain, otherwise they wouldn't be able to have such fast reactions.

Am I being extremely presumptuous edelweiss pirate?.. Or is that avatar, in a sense of the word, just a perfect embodiment of your honourable idol?

[supertzar]

I used to have invisibility as my special power. It was not voluntary, though. People just...wouldn't see me sometimes. Not so much now that I have gained over fifty pounds (mostly muscle:) .)

Now, besides super strength, I am developing precognition. I think of someone I haven't thought of in years and soon they appear.

[r e m]

I can relate man, espeacially to the psychic power of precognition.. I use to think it was all a strange coincidences, but you begin to see a relationship between the pattern of your mind & what is happening around you.

I took that tickle test on psychic ability - & evidentially I have above average psychic skills, & precognition was my strongest attribute.

Any suggestions of where I can share a large video file? (230mb) I want to share Steve Murrays - Reiki psychic attunement, I've found it very beneficial. It develops all psychic abilitys & focuses on healing energy & expanding our natrual ability of healing. it only requires the belief your consciousness can be in two places at the same time in space, & that it will work, then it really does!.

[r e m]

Here's what tickle's ESP test actually said. - when it comes to psychic abilities, you have an unusually strong talent in the area of Precognition

This means you have an uncanny ability to look into the future and know ahead of time what is going to happen. You might, for instance, simply know that you're going to get that job before the interview even happens with a certainty that exceeds what you would expect to have simply knowing the facts of the situation. You might have a sense of dread before going out for the evening only to later have a flat tire on your way home. These little hunches are easy to ignore but for you especially, quite often lead to a true prediction of what is going to happen. These predictions can be used to generate positive outcomes, and the more you know about how to use your talent, the more you will be able to distinguish between fantasy of the future and an actual reality you are seeing happen, before it has actually happened.

Here's where you can take the test, & IQ among others.

http://web.tickle.com/

If you have a few minutes to fluff away.

In regards to your powers of invisiblity, you were always in control of who notices you or how often your seen/heard from. It's just like the squeaky hinge gets oiled.. now your muscular & full of confidence, you'll natrually be 'less invisible'.

[seamus]

I used to have invisibility as my special power. It was not voluntary, though. People just...wouldn't see me sometimes. Not so much now that I have gained over fifty pounds (mostly muscle:) .)

Now, besides super strength, I am developing precognition. I think of someone I haven't thought of in years and soon they appear.

It could be that you are manifesting them, influencing them to come near your circle. A test would be to see if you are able to predict weather or lottery numbers (while not betting, just to keep that variable out of the picture). If you can't detect impersonal events, it may be you are calling them. Even if you were able to predict impersonal events, it would be a hard call whether or not you were precognizant, or affecting the situation.

s

[edelweiss pirate]

The subconscious is an amazing tool, that a lot of us take for granted, it's only our dream weaver, some say. Yet the subconscious & it's language of feelings can do awesome stuff, like give us supernatural strength, the ability to feel no pain when under physical assault. It can even change our sight to black & white only, in situations of immediate danger (like a near miss road accident), which increases the eyes ability to see more 'frames' perse', enabling faster reactions. It literally increases the brains speed in which it interprets light protons, just as world rally champions drive with their subconscious brain, otherwise they wouldn't be able to have such fast reactions.

Am I being extremely presumptuous edelweiss pirate?.. Or is that avatar, in a sense of the word, just a perfect embodiment of your honourable idol?

Hi REM, thanks for waking up my sleeping thread.... The subconscious mind has an extraordinarily powerful hold over our planet. The only problem is we're hardly aware of it... so 'they' can poison our thoughts and lives 'by the back-door' of the subconscious mind. When we watch the new horror movie or Schwarzneneger death fest, we think we're being entertained...

What's really happening is that our souls' are being degraded via the back door of the subconscious mind where we equate death with excitement and horror with fascination...

The final key to this is schizophrenia. This is where the subconscious mind is unleashed with all its incredible abilities and stored fears and horrors.

The secret societies admit to a doctrine of luciferic illumination, has it not been said that to enter the NWO Luciferic illuminmation is required?

Illumination is a posh name for schizophrenia.... The parallels are there fo anyone who would take time to investigate. If you're interested in the truth then it might be a fruitful area of investigation for some people..

Cheerio REM, I look forward to following your posts in the future...

[seamus]

Hiya E. Pirate! thought you'd disappeared *nudge*. I personally don't think that their "luciferic" illumination is really luciferic. That is, I think it is called that because it makes one feel "cast down" or "outside" the realm of consensus reality into a more "real" reality, but only more real because of its perceived inescapability. This state is one that many people assume that Lucifer lives in.

It's a mind trick. I really believe that. It can only take you so far in and of itself. And I have come to view my own experience of it, which I have shared with you privately, very differently from how I did whilst under the influence of the impotent Nazarene fantasy.
Now I see it as a reality check, where I was offered death or life. The fact at the time was that I hated my life, and wanted an out. I was offered an out. A truthful out. But I was under the delusion that I was better than others (Satan and Hitler, for a couple of examples), and that prevented me from being able to disconnect from my biological life. I was still taking identity in someone who I was not, and all the time under a deeply-seated fear of "God" in heaven who would destroy me if I dared to be evil. (Letting go of my life in order to be happy in this scenario would have been deemed "evil" by this "God")

Do you see the quandary there? It was not the illumination up to that point that was luciferic, but I would agree that to go beyond, past the "black door" as some call it, would be "luciferic" insomuch as it is a direct "fuck you and your high-and-mighty ideals of false love" to this vicious, hateful, jealous, spiteful, evil, controlling God.

So maybe the illuminati have done this. Gone beyond the "black door". But I seriously doubt it. You don't just crash that gate. The only way (I know of) to get through that door is to become a being of pure love. Fearless, and respectful of the rights of all beings to their own path of evolution, and humble beyond what humankind knows as humility, yet not a doormat. From what I have read of the luciferian websites out there, this is the luciferian mindset. No fear, respect, kindness, humility, no time to fuck around with assholes who try to control you. Mankind likes to blame the devil for the mess they are in, but really it all starts with how you and I relate to each other. No third party can interfere unless we invite it. I learned that one 18 years ago.

TTFN,

s

[tinmenace]

Hi REM, thanks for waking up my sleeping thread.... The subconscious mind has an extraordinarily powerful hold over our planet. The only problem is we're hardly aware of it... so 'they' can poison our thoughts and lives 'by the back-door' of the subconscious mind. When we watch the new horror movie or Schwarzneneger death fest, we think we're being entertained...

What's really happening is that our souls' are being degraded via the back door of the subconscious mind where we equate death with excitement and horror with fascination...

The final key to this is schizophrenia. This is where the subconscious mind is unleashed with all its incredible abilities and stored fears and horrors.

The secret societies admit to a doctrine of luciferic illumination, has it not been said that to enter the NWO Luciferic illuminmation is required?

Illumination is a posh name for schizophrenia.... The parallels are there fo anyone who would take time to investigate. If you're interested in the truth then it might be a fruitful area of investigation for some people..

Cheerio REM, I look forward to following your posts in the future...



Interesting. We're discussing similar topic on a few other threads (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26546&postcount=44)

I'd love your input on it

[r e m]

I concur Pirate,

With the huge restrictions words have, I can't see any better definition of illumination than luciferian schizophrenia. I'm sure 'they' will eventually awaken from 'their' Illusion.. & the ones that are under the most control, will one day turn on 'them', & those which are known as the Illuminated ones we succumb to the masses. It's the cycle of life, it's really just a matter of time. Such a one-way 'symbiotic' relationship can never sustain long term.

Through my experimenting with LSD, taking it even unto the edge of OD.. I can honestly say the subconscious can be the most wonderful loving, faith assuring tool, & also the most hating, fearful, luciferic tool. Where it purely comes down to brain chemistry, & want we consciously choose to feel. Tripping can be like heaven, or take you through the depths of hell.

Let's harness the magnificent power for ourselves, & re-programme something more positive. This negative fear based reality is in the core of our brains, & it's time to break free. Icke put it wonderfully "I am me, I am free!!!"

[seamus]

I have a psychic friend who is saying that the poor will rise up soon against the govt here in the states. Also, Icelandic singer Björk had a dream that inspired the first single from her new record:

here is a snippet from wikipedia about it "The song "Earth Intruders," in particular, was sculpted soon after Björk awoke from a dream she had during a cross-Atlantic flight to New York. In the dream, the singer said a "tsunami of millions and millions of poverty-stricken people" swelled high above the airplane she was a passenger on. Eventually, the wave overtook the plane, hit land and razed the White House into oblivion. "It's a quite chaotic song," she said of Volta's first single. "Lyrically, it's a collection of all of these images" burned into her memory, from her trip to Indonesia as well as her vivid, in-flight reverie."

I myself have been seeing it coming, though the issue of poverty hasn't been so much to the fore. There is also mention in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, of the goy "mob" being provoked to destroy their government, their only (although scanty) protection from them, the masters.

s

[r e m]

Tsunami of millions of poverty-stricken people!

That reminds me of a nightmare I had of a devastating tsunami-wave hitting USA. But then-again I have probably seen to many hollywood movies.

Quite strange how the sub-conscious works, I think it can be influenced by what we're feeling at the time & what we're thinking about. I know I've had some pretty warped dreams.

Interesting.

[alison]

I have been reading the thoughts on this thread and can see where each is coming from. My understandings of our mechanics are forever evolving and have been in some places but yet to travel to others, all I am sure of so far is that its the unconcious thoughts, the " no brainers " that come purely thru the heart without intention that manifest themselves clearly in ones reality.
Anything that requires to much projection either is a pull on our enegy levels ( enforced drain) or a manipulation of negative forces.

I am in no doubt of our natural potential as free human beings, but freedom means just that. When we are sperated from all external programming i.e. ego, want and desire and we quiet ourselves, our soul cries out and miracles are performed.

Still learning.

[seamus]

Tsunami of millions of poverty-stricken people!

That reminds me of a nightmare I had of a devastating tsunami-wave hitting USA. But then-again I have probably seen to many hollywood movies.

Quite strange how the sub-conscious works, I think it can be influenced by what we're feeling at the time & what we're thinking about. I know I've had some pretty warped dreams.

Interesting.

Not just interesting. Possible. I have heard reports that there is one of the Canary Islands that is very unstable, and if the side of it slides off, it will cause a 500-foot-tall wave to slam into the east coast. Are you sure you never heard this on the radio?

s

[r e m]

OMG no-way!!! :eek: Pretty sure haven't heard anything where I am.

Lets just keep faith in the grand design, whatever happens, happens.

[phoenixchilde]

Edelweiss, the more of your posts I read, the more I like where your head is at. Your acquaintance who can enter people's dreams isn't all that uncommon. It's called Dreamwalking. I haven't looked all that much into it, but read up on it. There's information to be found.

None of this stuff is really all that unfathomable. Human consciousness exists on a higher plane of reality, and once you realize that, it's understandable how the mind can control reality.

[r e m]

None of this stuff is really all that unfathomable. Human consciousness exists on a higher plane of reality, and once you realize that, it's understandable how the mind can control reality.

Hey ya better secure that shit, it's dangerous thinking. :D

[synergy777]

Doesn't seem to far away from Remote Viewing and Lucid dreaming or some combination of.

has anyone got any info on lucid dreaming, i lucid dream, i need info/assistance, plz.

still no info?. personally i have been lucid dreaming since 7/8, in colour, with all sensations, smell, touch, heat/cold etc. its not supernatural but mental. a holodeck of thoughts, data, emotions. the brain merely filters, plays out different scenarios etc. the limits of lucid dreaming i have tested, they stop at the sky/stratosphere, trying to get to space, the dream stops and becomes you and a black void. this happens in my opinion, because we have no personal experience of space. we have pictures etc, but no real life experience. so your barin finds the scale of creation too great, not enough info/experience/energy to create . i have terraformed landscapes, flown into the sky, with effects of drag/gravity being felt. even had a dream of red planet/horsehead nebula, dolphins with antennas being transported. had dreams of flying over a lush green, oasis type egypt, with white pyramids, had on one occasion been to the sky, trying again to reach space but progress was hindred by emerald/green pyramids floating the air. its just info, weed etc and brain filtering. personally i would love a goodnights sleep, lucid dreaming is getting boring, limits are tested, whats the next step?

being uniformed/unaware is a state i never really enjoyed,never was a normal kid, others played out, bikes/games etc, i tried to read the a to z brittanica enclyopedia, had telescopes, star charts, illustrated childrens bible by hamlyn etc. truly ignorance is bliss.

so would really appreciate any info, this is not being flashy/showing off, as to be honest i see it as curse rather than anything productive. also being an aspie might have something to do with it. so if anyone has any info how to stop them etc let me know.cheers.

[r e m]

Yea, stopping lucid dreaming or even remembering your dreams for that matter is easy, simply smoke heaps of pot, go to sleep stoned as a mute, & your sleep far to deep to remember anything.

Dunno what the next step is all I know is It's amazing stuff this lucid dreaming, I haven't been having them for nearly as long as you (that I think). But I have been remembering around 20% of all my dreams since I can remember, & if I really put effort into this, I can remember the basic thread of all my dreams & even wake up after each dream (REM session).

I especially like the ability of shaping your dreams while lucid dreaming, a lot of the time I can't fully choose every event, or even select a circumstance. Yet what I found recently is the ability to literally change events unfolding (almost turn back the clock). I'm going to use a real example because this one happened a few days ago.

First off don't laugh (I really dreamed this) & secondly I don't believe in vampires (so it goes to show how ridiculous the subconscious can be). Well me & my family were living in a wooden hut (just like in stupid fairy-tail) looked from the outside like a little box, with not enough space for rooms n shit. My Brother had become a vampire for some reason, & lurked around the general area. I was charged with bringing my Bro back home safe, so I set off looking for him (set off means I'd instantly appear in different locations, hot on the heels of my Bro) I could go into sceneries, but it's besides the point. Now we ended up on the edge of a cliff along a field near our house ( you know how you can't really see your self but you just feel it's you) Well we must have been fighting or something & my bro ended up over the edge while I gripped his hand, & kept him from falling. Next thing my grip slipped & he started tumbling towards the bottom. Here's where it gets fantastically lucid, I sort of thought no that shit didn't happen! & all of a sudden my dream sort of rewound & he was back in the grip of my hands.

This is true.

[synergy777]

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/content/category/5/73/58/

just found this forum, dream yoga course.

[tru3]

still no info?. personally i have been lucid dreaming since 7/8, in colour, with all sensations, smell, touch, heat/cold etc. its not supernatural but mental. a holodeck of thoughts, data, emotions. the brain merely filters, plays out different scenarios etc. the limits of lucid dreaming i have tested, they stop at the sky/stratosphere, trying to get to space, the dream stops and becomes you and a black void. this happens in my opinion, because we have no personal experience of space. we have pictures etc, but no real life experience. so your barin finds the scale of creation too great, not enough info/experience/energy to create . i have terraformed landscapes, flown into the sky, with effects of drag/gravity being felt. even had a dream of red planet/horsehead nebula, dolphins with antennas being transported. had dreams of flying over a lush green, oasis type egypt, with white pyramids, had on one occasion been to the sky, trying again to reach space but progress was hindred by emerald/green pyramids floating the air. its just info, weed etc and brain filtering. personally i would love a goodnights sleep, lucid dreaming is getting boring, limits are tested, whats the next step?

being uniformed/unaware is a state i never really enjoyed,never was a normal kid, others played out, bikes/games etc, i tried to read the a to z brittanica enclyopedia, had telescopes, star charts, illustrated childrens bible by hamlyn etc. truly ignorance is bliss.

so would really appreciate any info, this is not being flashy/showing off, as to be honest i see it as curse rather than anything productive. also being an aspie might have something to do with it. so if anyone has any info how to stop them etc let me know.cheers.[/

i can relate to your story, synergy. i also read the encyclopedia for shits and giggles when i was a kid.

as for ignorance is bliss, i'm thinking of writing a book called, "numb ain't so bad!" :D

i don't consciously pursue lucid dreaming, but i have had bouts. last week, i was playing with my chakras, spinning them in different directions, different combinations of pattern, sound, color, alone and in unison, etc.

i have even come face to face with really nasty "spuds", to use the phrase from ghostbusters.

when i consciously think/say, "who is the dreamer?", they vanish like mist in the rays of the morning sun.

the trick for you, it seems to me, is to bring this "curse/gift" into alignment with conscious intention.

what kind of world do YOU want to create?

what is the highest version, of the grandest vision, of WHO YOU ARE?

play with that for a while, and all the while, rest as the Dreamer.

in love and service. :)

[cheeb]

I dont understand how spirituality or awakening has anything to do with dreaming ,lucid or otherwise

Although i do understand the mechanics of it

Surerly everyone has heard of Sigmund Freud "the interpretation of dreams"

Its mostly about repression , ie sex

If this doesnt float yuor boat try '

jung "The collective unconscious"

its mostly about archetypes and symbols ,and its in each and every one of us, built in to our subconscious'

These are the authorities on psychology ie the human {perceptive]
condition

whether you agree or not ,all ideas to the human psychological condition are derivative


"ide like to meat "people was one such freudian slip that was on here earlier

[pierre_jean]

Illumination is a posh name for schizophrenia.... The parallels are there fo anyone who would take time to investigate. If you're interested in the truth then it might be a fruitful area of investigation for some people..

Very interesting point. But what one calls disease is in fact a process which forms part of the spirit.
From wikipedia :
There are the revolt and the criticism of the European Antipsychiatry of Ronald Laing, David Cooper, Thomas Szasz and the others, for which mental pathology is an invention of the medical capacity conferred by some political authority. Thomas Szasz is a psychiatrist and "Professor Emeritus" of psychiatry to the United States and his aphorisms elegant and lighting very known and are often quoted.
"The disease is a deterioration of the functions of the body, but the spirit does not form part of the body. The psychosis is a myth ".

Thomas Szasz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So another part of the manipulation ? :confused:

[edelweiss pirate]

He sums up my point perfectly and is probably a spokesperson for the illuminati..

I don't think any sane person would doubt that schizophrenics can be extrememly dangerous... They run our world after all..

Some schizophrenics can gain access to higher/hidden knowledge..

Bottom line is this however:

"The mystic and the madman are in the same sea of experience but the mystic knows how to swim"..

I doubt that many certified schizophrenics could be termed mystics....

Members of my family work with them and I have had enough Illuminati experience to call a madman a madman.

[infinitely free]

Well, i don't know anything about x-men, but sure "as hell" know something about the nature of "our Reality" :)

I suggest we try out something a bit more significant! I suggest we try to beat death

Death is illusion - how about us, trying to prove it?!

[tru3]

Not just interesting. Possible. I have heard reports that there is one of the Canary Islands that is very unstable, and if the side of it slides off, it will cause a 500-foot-tall wave to slam into the east coast. Are you sure you never heard this on the radio?

s


seattle is the one that concerns me. there is a subduction zone off the coast of washington exactly like the one in indonesia. according to geologic core samples, it 'goes off' about every 300 years. and it's about 150 years overdue.

[tru3]

He sums up my point perfectly and is probably a spokesperson for the illuminati..

I don't think any sane person would doubt that schizophrenics can be extrememly dangerous... They run our world after all..

Some schizophrenics can gain access to higher/hidden knowledge..

Bottom line is this however:

"The mystic and the madman are in the same sea of experience but the mystic knows how to swim"..

I doubt that many certified schizophrenics could be termed mystics....

Members of my family work with them and I have had enough Illuminati experience to call a madman a madman.

good quote about mystics and madmen.

my feeling is, e.p., that the world is run by sociopaths, not schizophrenics. i know i might seem to be splitting hairs, but there is a difference, to me.

the schizophrenia is a mechanism that allows them to be 'altered'. the sociopathy is the state that is cultivated to allow the energy body to be 'split'.

i respect your pov, e.p., and there is a fine line between mysticism and madness. my own experience of shamanism brought me OUT of madness. just wanted to share that pov. :)

[edelweiss pirate]

Wrong answer tru.. keep looking...

Clue:

Ever wonder why Roman emprerors, kings and showbiz personalities always had a screw loose.. Why they have alcohol and drug addictions....

If you do your research you will find several recent examples of Illuminati members whose schizophrenia leaked out.... Brother of King of Jordon, Royal family of Nepal..

Do you actually believe George Bush is sane?

I've been banging on about this for two years now and have posted lots of proof.. You can't actually disagree with the facts TRu....

[infinitetruth]

I don't know if the x-men are a real phenomenon or not. I know that it would be great if it was, but ultimately if it was the government would probably know before we did and use it for their ulterior motives.

I think I controlled the weather once. I remember a story my teacher read to me, it was about a girl who was given droplets on her necklace every birthday and each droplet gave her a new power. I remember having a fascination for that story.

Anyway once I was really angry and it was fairly sunny outside but there were a few black clouds. I remember instantly thinking that there was a storm brewing. Anyway I was really peed off and I focused all my attention on a tv arial across the road. I wanted a bolt of lightening to hit it - I don't know why, I don't know the psychology of it, I just wanted to vent my anger (I was being abused at the time and felt icolated). Anyway I focused for about 5 minutes and there was a huge bolt exactly where I was focused, it didn't hit the arial it was miles away from it but from my perspective it was exactly where I had been focusing.
I did feel better afterwards. Not sure if it was coincidence or not. Probably. I know that I can usually smell when lightening is on its way - don't think this is such a special power tho.

I love storms.

[i_am]

I love storms.

Me too ;) I think they are awesome.

[synergy777]

they the say there is a thin line between genius and and madness, that line is success. they say there is a thin line betwwen eccentrcity and being crazy, that line is money. ep, hook some data up, you are definately onto something bro, cheers.

[mahabaratara]

EP

If you can do what you say you can do then just do it...

I wouldnt be bothered by what people thought...

[kblood]

EP

If you can do what you say you can do then just do it...

I wouldnt be bothered by what people thought...

Maybe you wouldnt, but not everyone likes what they see. Many have believed me to be a vampire or something like that, and I simply did not mind, if that is what it takes to make them stay away from me.

Most who see something extraordinary believe it to be evil at first. No matter what it is: "Oh my god, where is my gunwound?". "Well, I...". "You cursed me!, now I am probably possessed by demons, why could you not have just let me use the hospital?"

And this is the point where I usually just leave. What is the point if the ones healed, simply gets afraid of the healing? If I do heal something, I now try to make sure that it is something the person would like to have healed.

Also, it is not really any fun being the local freakshow. If people only thought me crazy or something... but some do know that there is more to it. I do not mind talking about it, but most people do not understand it anyway, and then it just gets frustrating.

[lemonique]

Hi KBlood, From what I can gather we need a person's permission to heal them, anything else is intrusive on a person's sovereignty.

As far as manifesting goes;

The monetary system has screwed us all into the ground, with everything being controlled by a few families who control the world bank. How about manifesting some new ways to live without money. Now that's a 'biggy' eh? But there is obviously some very good minds on this forum who may be able to come up with some good ideas.
The world is going to Hell in a hand cart the way things are, a whole new system is going to be vital to our survival one day. We need to put our thinking caps on...... any takers?

Cheers

[kblood]

Hi KBlood, From what I can gather we need a person's permission to heal them, anything else is intrusive on a person's sovereignty.


Yea, I agree. What I was trying to say is that I simply try to read of a person, wether the person wants to be healed or not. Then I heal and explain what I did. Sometimes I just do it because I can :) If someone is hurt with a knife or shot by a gun, and that person is a good person who, I usally do not have any problems making the wounds disappear. I believe that the fact that the healing occours makes it accepted as well. I try to believe that anyway.

As for a system without money... I fear a third world war or something else might make that inevitable... So figuring out how to do it would probably come in quite handy.

[cloudgazer]

It occurs to me that the x-men comic book and movies are actually an extreme reflection of an actual reality experienced by many poeple, myself included. My own speciality is weather control, I knew people in the far east who could actually get inside people's dreams.. and other stuff that people just WON'T believe. I seem to have freaked that 2012 guy out a bit with this and he now thinks I'm a mason which is odd because according to him the masons don't have any power... Anyway, any more people out there with these powers ?

We could form a real X men unit...

BTW
I'm serious.

BTW pt2 this is post number 5,555..... I love 'dem magic numbers baby....

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa072400a.htm

I have changed the weather before, by willing it. I have also predicted things, and thought of something to happen, then it happened. But I don't know what my specialty is, I haven't figured that out yet. (Also, having a vivid imagination, when someone is telling me something, I can see everything they're saying, as if I experienced it myself, as if I can see what their mind sees)

My boyfriend also has powers like these. But I am not sure what his specialty is either.

We both have had many "bizarre" experiences that are beyond the physical realm. Starting from childhood. The both of us. Maybe that is why we are soulmates. Also we are so connected now, soul-wise, that we often feel the same way, at the same time, even being far away from each other (or will know what the other is thinking, anything). Distance doesn't matter, the connection is very strong.

Another thing I remembered, but I'm not sure if this is a good thing (I was told it wasn't good, so I stopped doing it). I can look at someone, and in a way, be exactly as they are, feel the body, as if it is mine. Breathing the same, heartbeat, everything. Like I am that other person. I don't know if this is good or bad, so I won't be doing that anymore (haven't in a while). It doesn't really seem like a good thing does it? ...... :(

[seamus]

What is "good"? What is "bad"? It is a tool that you have been equipped with, perhaps to enable you to experience more fully the reality of the interconnectedness of all that is. If used with people you are friends with, this could be of great empathic value. Maybe this could help you to become a counselor of some sort. Lots of people need help.

Peace,
s

[cloudgazer]

Thank you Seamus. I think you may be right. Also I don't know what is good and bad. To be honest I have trouble discerning between "facts" heh because everything is connected!

[mountain]

21 12 2012, it is my belief we all at some point in time were able to produce paranormal phenomena, but have forgotten "how" to do it.
I believe this is how the pyramids were built "with the mind" and how the heads at easter island were placed where they are, possibly the stones at stonehenge as well (through telekenisis).
I fully believe in the power of the "mind and spirit"

Could it be that they know our minds create, so they used us to make those pyramids with our minds and we cut off the leylines and energy ourselves?! Just a thought....

[mountain]

Hi KBlood, From what I can gather we need a person's permission to heal them, anything else is intrusive on a person's sovereignty.

As far as manifesting goes;

The monetary system has screwed us all into the ground, with everything being controlled by a few families who control the world bank. How about manifesting some new ways to live without money. Now that's a 'biggy' eh? But there is obviously some very good minds on this forum who may be able to come up with some good ideas.
The world is going to Hell in a hand cart the way things are, a whole new system is going to be vital to our survival one day. We need to put our thinking caps on...... any takers?

Cheers

Start a garden this spring for starters..

[edelweiss pirate]

I'm all about it!

Except sentient things tend to fight back, more than say a cloud.

Come back Teslafire...and all the other believers who genuinely 'lived' Icke's message.

Seamus, Markhowie, neondestiny, Limelady...

I really miss you. Remember the old days?

Boy! we were good!

[edelweiss pirate]

ive never laughed so much much in my entire life.....
quote........we could make our own X men, .....how old are you?

get real.

Thing is I know you're not laughing. I don't think you've laughed in a long time.


This forum used positive attention to end a drought in part of Australia!

Way back in 2007.


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2129&highlight=rain+wagga

Background:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1463&highlight=forum+experiment



That's what I call 'evidence':






http://www.myozspot.com.au/phpblog/index.php?y=07&m=03




Still pretending to laugh rakkoo? Or wrapt in wonder? You should be......

We are the future.



Anyone out there still remember the spirit of '07 and want to try something new?

We had fewer mockers and trolls back then... but still, we could move the earth if we put our heads together.

[amerigirl]

Could it be that they know our minds create, so they used us to make those pyramids with our minds and we cut off the leylines and energy ourselves?! Just a thought....

for some reason this is really resonating with me...hmm, what a thought.

[kblood]

ive never laughed so much much in my entire life.....
quote........we could make our own X men, .....how old are you?

get real.

What I find funny is how ignorant, so many can be, of something that is usually right in front of our eyes daily. But we simply ignore it. We have other explanations we find more logical or just disregard explanations for lacking consensus logic. Whether the claims and the theory on its own does seem to hold water, is disregarded, since most people claim it is impossible, without even knowing anything about it.

[edelweiss pirate]

Anyone know what happened to Teslafire? Seamus and the others?

Seems we've lost a hell of a lot of good people over the years.

Anyone remember Garth? What a lovely guy.....

I miss the Australian contingent.

Especially Limelady, but 'I am' is still here, another lovely Aussie.....

And KBlood is still here.....awesome....



QUESTION:

Who's your most 'missed' former David Icke forummer???

[zero1]

When I used to read comics, the X-Men were my favourite superheroes.

[energi]

Anyone know what happened to Teslafire? Seamus and the others?

Seems we've lost a hell of a lot of good people over the years.

Anyone remember Garth? What a lovely guy.....

I miss the Australian contingent.

Especially Limelady, but 'I am' is still here, another lovely Aussie.....

And KBlood is still here.....awesome....



QUESTION:

Who's your most 'missed' former David Icke forummer???
IS LIMELADY GONE? :eek::(:(

[edelweiss pirate]

I WILL LEAVE YOU TO YOUR CHILDISH FANTASIES,

my father and God said its time to put your childish toys and dreams away, and GROW UP.

Not read any David Icke books have you.....

Why are you here exactly?


Please, we really don't need 're-educating' by dogmatic materialists.

Yes I know you think you have all the answers but can you explain how a microscopic liver fluke or a fungus, is able to hijack an ant's brain and sense the presence of cows in a field to force the ant to get eaten in order to perpetuate the life cycle of the parasite.

If you can actually explain it then I will award you troof points.

If not then just what are you here shouting the odds for?

[seamus]

Anyone know what happened to Teslafire? Seamus and the others?

Seems we've lost a hell of a lot of good people over the years.

[...]
QUESTION:

Who's your most 'missed' former David Icke forummer???
I'm still here.

I'm just busy living life. I don't do as well plugged in to a computer all the time :D

but i keep an eye on the old threads, as you can see.

Just finished my second reading of "The Science of Getting Rich", and I can unequivocally say that I wasn't ready for it the first time through, 2 years ago.

I'm on another level now. I got hooked up with Roage (through the "What to do? Know the Grail Law!" thread here) and he and I are exploring deep spiritual truths together (along with a few others).

I'm not active on any forums right now, partly because life is organic, and meant to be lived, rather than read through a computer screen, and partly because I'm in receiving mode for the most part, since June or so. The universe is teaching me so much right now, I am just hanging on.


Lots o love, guys.

Everything's gonna be just fine!

to answer the question: I don't know who is former and who is current LOL!

[kblood]

From what I have heard, maybe Limelady made another account, I think I would have to vote on her, regarding who I miss the most. Of those few at least, there are so many who left these forums.

Still a lot of new come here, and they are interesting as well.

Since former member SoGlad is also in Australia, he might know what Limelady is doing these days. I will try to ask him next time I see him online.

[edelweiss pirate]

I'm still here.

I'm just busy living life. I don't do as well plugged in to a computer all the time :D

but i keep an eye on the old threads, as you can see.

Just finished my second reading of "The Science of Getting Rich", and I can unequivocally say that I wasn't ready for it the first time through, 2 years ago.

I'm on another level now. I got hooked up with Roage (through the "What to do? Know the Grail Law!" thread here) and he and I are exploring deep spiritual truths together (along with a few others).

I'm not active on any forums right now, partly because life is organic, and meant to be lived, rather than read through a computer screen, and partly because I'm in receiving mode for the most part, since June or so. The universe is teaching me so much right now, I am just hanging on.


Lots o love, guys.

Everything's gonna be just fine!

to answer the question: I don't know who is former and who is current LOL!

Glad to see you still check the forum out.

I'm finishing my book at the moment and I need to do research for it, so this is my excuse for being perpetually on line. Only problem is the forum is so addictive that I spend more time on here than I do writing. Currently researching the MK Ultra CIA documents.

Anyway, soon gonna publish my analysis of Shutter Island. Hopefully will be posted on this forum in a few days....

I've always wanted to be a writer so personally I love spending my time in front of a computer screen knocking out a constant stream of text....

And also I'm spending the summer holidays with my parents so there isn't an awful lot to do round here to be honest.

Suits me just fine, lying around playing on a computer is the perfect way to be lazy but to tell yourself you're keeping busy.


I like lazy.

BTW Seamus, I saw some of your former people at the Glastonbury festival, they had their own food stall at the accoustic stage, was a pretty cool set-up..... I was thinking of joining their commune down in Devon, but I'm just not into beards....


Do you still sport a beard Seamus?

[kblood]

I remember Limelady for her healing thread. She asked if anyone needed healing and had forum members help heal a person in need.

None of that kind of forum project anymore is there?

[edelweiss pirate]

i will seek professional help for you, and get you on some hard core medication.

That should bring you back to reality.
Dont comply. Just accept my help.

Spam duly reported. Any further antagonism on your part will be reported as spam. This isn't a thread for you vent spleen at the misery of your own sad existence. A cool and happy person wouldn't troll boards. That's the behaviour of a damaged psyche.

Kblood, there's your answer to your question. Sad isn't it?

No we don't get anywhere because of spammers and trolls. In the old days these kind of antagonist offensive and clearly trolling comments would result in a quick ban. Because this guy is CLEARLY here to disrupt the forum

And so the forum was left to people who actually believed in Icke's work and wanted to put its principles into action. And we did.

But now you get all these losers and haters who want to take their personal life failures out on people like us.



I remember Limelady for her healing thread. She asked if anyone needed healing and had forum members help heal a person in need.

None of that kind of forum project anymore is there?

[kblood]

Yea, best to just ignore Rakkoo. He is here to tell us we need to believe in god, and everything that god has not sanctified us to do is evil. So 90% of everything on this forum is probably evil to him, even good deeds that does not happen with a prayer to god is evil. I guess I could be wrong. I would not mind people finding God as their light and hope, but I do mind if they expect others to worship god or anything else the same way they do.

But peace Rakkoo. Im sorry if I offended you by moving stuff by thought, but since you did not see it happen, I guess its okay. Mostly because it just makes me crazy? You are entitled to your oppinions of course, but since you clearly do not know what you are on about, then be silent unless you have something constructive to bring.

If you keep this kind of thing up, I will report you to the admins, because your behaviour really is disrupting, without giving any good reason for doing so. I guess you probably just got tired of agreeing with everyone in Bibleclass and found this place different? I can understand that. Lifes not supposed to be boring.

[kblood]

dont spam my thread or come here with your mental health problems,
this is a serious thread for serious people,

i suggest you seek another website like im mentaly challenged.com

and you have been reported to police with your I.p address for cyber bullying and harrasment.

Lol, you crack me up buddy. Its not your thread though, and you ARE obviously spamming it. So I am reporting you. Since you have linked to places allowing to watch free series, I guess you might have to think about making a new account.

Funny thing with your reply is I could give the exact same reply to you, and I almost already did, but being the joker you are, I guess that was your point. But please find something better to use your life for. Whether this thread is serious or not, does not give you the right to come and call everyone mental. Have a nice day though.

[kblood]

Spam duly reported. Any further antagonism on your part will be reported as spam. This isn't a thread for you vent spleen at the misery of your own sad existence. A cool and happy person wouldn't troll boards. That's the behaviour of a damaged psyche.

Kblood, there's your answer to your question. Sad isn't it?

No we don't get anywhere because of spammers and trolls. In the old days these kind of antagonist offensive and clearly trolling comments would result in a quick ban. Because this guy is CLEARLY here to disrupt the forum

And so the forum was left to people who actually believed in Icke's work and wanted to put its principles into action. And we did.

But now you get all these losers and haters who want to take their personal life failures out on people like us.

Yea, he is both sad, and proof of that. I know at least two of the admins personally though. I do not think they will mind seeing him off, or at least giving him a warning so he can be banned next time it happens.

But thats how life is. Some people just cant accept there is more to it, and I guess this is some times their reaction. I have stopped trying to prove it to others, if they want to believe they will find the answers for themselves. I have found mine and do not expect to wake people up, unless they already want to. I have to admit it does not really stop me from trying completely though, but I like to see if they can actually come up with any good counter arguments. And they really cant. This Rakkoo is not trying to make any sense, but he is probably just having some bad days. Soon he will have to vent his anger somewhere else though ;)

Check out our member zsymon though. He seems like a member who tries to help others and wants to share. No disrupting and arguing, and if he is arguing it is in reasonable debating ways. Like it should be :) Not sure if he is new or if I only noticed him within the last few months, but so far he seems like a nice chap.

[i_am]

OK guys. We wouldn't be discussing moderation on the forums, would we? :p

To be fair things are a tad different now. We have nearly 50,000 members and the boards move pretty quick. Mods cannot see everything and therefore if someone is crossing the line, always report it.

We don't just ban people as the norm. We have processes to go through and you would not normally know if those processes are in motion.

It is a delicate balance between Freedom of Speech and trolling/being abusive. We try to keep that balance. Mods have guidelines to follow too :)

[kblood]

OK guys. We wouldn't be discussing moderation on the forums, would we? :p

To be fair things are a tad different now. We have nearly 50,000 members and the boards move pretty quick. Mods cannot see everything and therefore if someone is crossing the line, always report it.

We don't just ban people as the norm. We have processes to go through and you would not normally know if those processes are in motion.

It is a delicate balance between Freedom of Speech and trolling/being abusive. We try to keep that balance. Mods have guidelines to follow too :)

Of course. If he got banned because of this alone, I would be a bit stumped, but he should be entitled a warning. You did not join this thread because of the 3 reports I sent? I know that the mods are there to look through these reports. I am not sure what his problem is, but I would like him to be told to follow the rules and guidelines. I did have a look at his previous posts, and he does not always seems disrupting, although not always peacemaking either. Your call.

[amerigirl]

I miss EDIT the most :D
I'll have to bump a thread of his/her completely random yet organized threads.
I've always been most of a lurker, I like to read and soak. Hmm, there is a few I miss but don't want to drop names in case they're still posting and I'm just missing their threads... :o

[seamus]

Glad to see you still check the forum out.

I'm finishing my book at the moment and I need to do research for it, so this is my excuse for being perpetually on line. Only problem is the forum is so addictive that I spend more time on here than I do writing. Currently researching the MK Ultra CIA documents.That's cool. Just remember (or is this new info?): it is unlawful to show the door to personal freedom to a happy slave. That's what gets people killed. Once you cross that line, you're fair game. In fact, I may be edging up to that line just by saying this.

Anyway, soon gonna publish my analysis of Shutter Island. Hopefully will be posted on this forum in a few days....
sounds fun. i haven't seen the film myself, so i probably should. I really liked 'Inception'
I've always wanted to be a writer so personally I love spending my time in front of a computer screen knocking out a constant stream of text....

And also I'm spending the summer holidays with my parents so there isn't an awful lot to do round here to be honest.

Suits me just fine, lying around playing on a computer is the perfect way to be lazy but to tell yourself you're keeping busy.


I like lazy.

BTW Seamus, I saw some of your former people at the Glastonbury festival, they had their own food stall at the accoustic stage, was a pretty cool set-up..... I was thinking of joining their commune down in Devon, but I'm just not into beards....


Do you still sport a beard Seamus?nope. my skin breaks out under a beard. i had to put up with that for 8+ years. LOL. the things we'll do to gain acceptance. Yeah their mobile cafe is pretty darn nice over there in Devon. I highly recommend the food, the drink, and the lifestyle. Their authority structure is fucked though. O well. I guess i could start my own commune if i want. but who wants to do that? there always has to be a mover, a pusher.. a yang element. and i don't dig telling people what to do. I'm perfectly happy to just be. so what the hell.

I've come quite a bit around on the whole Illuminati subject, BTW.

I think it's in the best interests of humanity that they be brought to a level of responsibility that goes beyond voting for a politician (who in turn is going to make everything OK for them). What better to bring the necessary pressure upon humankind than the planned New World Odor?

I like vanilla, personally. But i think the masses are gonna be smelling a lot of shite, until they get it through their heads that every one of us is a fully responsibly facet of the one infinite creator, who has chosen to live lives out in subjective physicality.

There are no victims in my paradigm. There are only gods.

Some people can't handle that. for the longest time I couldn't.

I think that fits this thread pretty well.

[kblood]

I miss EDIT the most :D
I'll have to bump a thread of his/her completely random yet organized threads.
I've always been most of a lurker, I like to read and soak. Hmm, there is a few I miss but don't want to drop names in case they're still posting and I'm just missing their threads... :o

I think Edit is a her, and I am not sure but I think her real name is Edith hence the name. I once thought she had left, but suddenly new posts came, a bit random and with lots of good pictures, and lots of copy pasting, and lots of interesting stuff :)

[tmtruther]

Wonderful Post. Anyone else here have superpowers?

[dantesrevival]

Wonderful Post. Anyone else here have superpowers?

do you have to be so petty and necro a thread because you have been arguing with the OP, lame!

[tmtruther]

do you have to be so petty and necro a thread because you have been arguing with the OP, lame!

Well, personally I think that if this was true (and who am I to argue) it would be a wonderful idea. Imagine how quickly the NWO would come falling down

[himitsunomiko]

TM Truther, it is real. Some people do have powers.

[entrangermercenary]

do you have to be so petty and necro a thread because you have been arguing with the OP, lame!

Well atually it ties it with a post edelweiss pirate posted....and here is the nub of it :D

Quote edelweis pirate


Perhaps you best take a good honest look at yourself in the mirror. Look beyond your own delusions about your self image as some kind of powerful earth Goddess or whatever fantasy world your mind is presently trapped in, and try to see what we see.
It might shock you

ENDQUOTE

So its quite relevant as you can see....something like kettle black and all that ;)

[tmtruther]

TM Truther, it is real. Some people do have powers.

Well, why not all get together and do something about the NWO than? Especially, if you don't need any of that "LBR" stuff. Seriously

[dantesrevival]

Well atually it ties it with a post edelweiss pirate posted....and here is the nub of it :D

Quote edelweis pirate


Perhaps you best take a good honest look at yourself in the mirror. Look beyond your own delusions about your self image as some kind of powerful earth Goddess or whatever fantasy world your mind is presently trapped in, and try to see what we see.
It might shock you

ENDQUOTE

So its quite relevant as you can see....something like kettle black and all that ;)

maybe so but I still think cross posting and thread necroing because of an argument is lame, it just starts spilling out all over the place, I like a good argument myself but try to keep it in the same thread :p

[himitsunomiko]

Well, why not all get together and do something about the NWO than? Especially, if you don't need any of that "LBR" stuff. Seriously

because first of all, finding that many people in a certain square radius is near impossible. Second, I dont think most would like to get locked up somewhere for claiming to be able to do something, and third, how do you know no one is doing anything? LOL

[tmtruther]

, and third, how do you know no one is doing anything? LOL


Because, if they are it ain't working to well :)

[tmtruther]

maybe so but I still think cross posting and thread necroing because of an argument is lame, it just starts spilling out all over the place, I like a good argument myself but try to keep it in the same thread :p

If that was the reason, than it would be impossible. It seems the poster in question has me on its ignore list and won't respond to a perfectly valid and researched question.

[himitsunomiko]

Because, if they are it ain't working to well :)

*too well.

Timing is everything.

[kblood]

Well, why not all get together and do something about the NWO than? Especially, if you don't need any of that "LBR" stuff. Seriously

LBR stuff?

I have tried looking for people with powers and found some. But these things works very very differently from how the NWO works. They are so opposite, that its no wonder if you might even never notice if it did anything.

I could go very much in depth with what I mean with that if you really want to know.

Because, if they are it ain't working to well :)

And what changes is it you expect exactly?

If that was the reason, than it would be impossible. It seems the poster in question has me on its ignore list and won't respond to a perfectly valid and researched question.

Edelwise Pirate? The first post I noticed from you was about how it was a good post and you wondered if anyone else had powers. Not sure if it was the OP you were refering to?

*too well.

Timing is everything.

Exactly, but then again maybe not at all. It would be nice though, if it is just about making it all happen within a short window of time. I doubt it will be like that though. Seems to me that although there is much NWO stuff going on, it seems that the alternative stuff is also gaining popularity as well.

[seamus]

Wow. One of my favorite threads, back from the dead!

I have super powers. But they are at this point limited to invisibility to Code Enforcement Officers (essentially, whatever it takes to ensure my free and safe passage through life). My other powers are on hold because I'm here on vacation from being God, not to Be God.

YMMV.

:D

[edelweiss pirate]

Wow. One of my favorite threads, back from the dead!

I have super powers. But they are at this point limited to invisibility to Code Enforcement Officers (essentially, whatever it takes to ensure my free and safe passage through life). My other powers are on hold because I'm here on vacation from being God, not to Be God.

YMMV.

:D

What about Jesus? Did he think he was God too...?

Of course some people got confused in the early era and deified him.

They missed the point somewhat.

Jesus was a normal person who one way or another became fully enlightened and saw this holographic thought centred universe for what it was. He then could begin to effectively manipulate reality. Unfortunately for him his magical reality also interacted with the magical reality of the head priest of the Pharisees Ciaphas, who decided that Jesus ought to ritually die to wash away the sins of the Jewish people. Jesus at some point must have acquiesced to this plan, or chosen not to resist it, as the rest is history and Catholic dogma.

To fulful your human potential and use the remaining 90 percent of your brain doesn't mean you're God. It just means you're not wasting time.

[edelweiss pirate]

do you have to be so petty and necro a thread because you have been arguing with the OP, lame!

Yep. It's pretty sad.

[seamus]

What about Jesus? Did he think he was God too...?
I don't know what Jesus thought. But I don't claim to be God any more than anyone else. You, too. And David Icke. And Larry King, and Marilyn Monroe. I'm on a different plane here that some people get. It seems you don't but that is no judgment on either of us; it just shows that we are not exactly the same.

Of course some people got confused in the early era and deified him.

They missed the point somewhat.

Jesus was a normal person who one way or another became fully enlightened and saw this holographic thought centred universe for what it was. He then could begin to effectively manipulate reality. Unfortunately for him his magical reality also interacted with the magical reality of the head priest of the Pharisees Ciaphas, who decided that Jesus ought to ritually die to wash away the sins of the Jewish people. Jesus at some point must have acquiesced to this plan, or chosen not to resist it, as the rest is history and Catholic dogma.

To fulful your human potential and use the remaining 90 percent of your brain doesn't mean you're God. It just means you're not wasting time. For the record, I think cows and fish and birds are God, too. This isn't a giant ego trip, except in the sense that life itself is a journey of an ego. Some egos dream of waking up in the dream. Who knows, objectively, what's really happening? Who is to judge or provide absolutely authoritative proof of whether that ego actually awakened or not?

[mountain]

I can enter other's dreams as mentioned in the first post by EP and once, I made a streetlamp go out by touching it :o

[edelweiss pirate]

I can enter other's dreams as mentioned in the first post by EP and once, I made a streetlamp go out by touching it :o

Street lamps going out or flicking on as people walk past happens to many people. Even my old dad gets this effect sometimes.

Of course the debunkers will say 'coincidence' but the fact is, no one can really explain what a coincidence is and why it should be possible for events to seemingly break the laws of statistical probability.

[kblood]

What about Jesus? Did he think he was God too...?

Of course some people got confused in the early era and deified him.

They missed the point somewhat.

Agreed. Some years ago all this confused me very much. I did not know of anyone else having experienced any of the incredible things that I have experienced sometimes, but on this forum I have been looking for a long time, and confirmed that my experiences are not as unique as I feared. My theory mostly was that Jesus was a normal person using more of his potential.

Using that potential is not about gaining power, it is more about restoring balance and being in harmony with everything. At least in my experience you cannot force something to happen that you cannot convince others that it is supposed to happen, or at least expect it to happen even against their own logic. Its like regular performer magic, just taking it a step further as I see it. We do this more than we think. Knowing what it is and how it happens, and is part of everyday life is probably what have made it possible for me to do strange things some times.

But it becomes boring fast. As Seamus wrote, we are not here to play god. As I see it, at least at this point in time, we are not supposed to do these things. I thought I was supposed to prove to the world these things are possible, but I came to realize the world is in denial. Most people do not want to realize these things to be true. I remember being in that state of mind myself, we have a natural defense mechanism in our way of thinking to forget and ignore what we do not understand and cannot rationalize in our head.

[edelweiss pirate]

But it becomes boring fast. As Seamus wrote, we are not here to play god. As I see it, at least at this point in time, we are not supposed to do these things. I thought I was supposed to prove to the world these things are possible, but I came to realize the world is in denial. Most people do not want to realize these things to be true. I remember being in that state of mind myself, we have a natural defense mechanism in our way of thinking to forget and ignore what we do not understand and cannot rationalize in our head.

Start writing a book to get your ideas out there. We can help the world change its way of thinking for the better.

A better set of possibilities open to us all.

[tmtruther]

Street lamps going out or flicking on as people walk past happens to many people. Even my old dad gets this effect sometimes.

Of course the debunkers will say 'coincidence' but the fact is, no one can really explain what a coincidence is and why it should be possible for events to seemingly break the laws of statistical probability.

Doctor Strange DVD Trailer - YouTube

[kblood]

Start writing a book to get your ideas out there. We can help the world change its way of thinking for the better.

A better set of possibilities open to us all.

I am just trying to provoke people to think, by joining a few different forums and challenging their beliefs, but one day when I feel up to it, I will probably write a book. I like writing anyway. I just dont find the time right now, working, writing forums, having fun with friends even. Its strange but I have managed to get a normal life, even though I was diagnosed with a minor type of schizophrenia. I was even kind of forced on medication and it took me a whole year to stop taking it.

Now I am using that experience to help a friend I have stop taking medication as well, and so far it has worked out well for several months. I guess he is taking some different medications instead, but they are more natural and with less side effects. Its nice to hear how his emotions starts to be of use again. Life without them is just not the same, I would probably rather loose a limb, even though some emotions can be terrible to bear.

But when I get older, wiser ( I hope :) ) and have more time to it, I will write some kind of book.

[sindakit]

i wish i had super powers. i'd be front and centre in my spandex. :D

How does anyone with abilities find out they could do certain things? how do you develope your power or learn new ones?

Is it through meditation mainly? how else do you access unused regions of the brain/dna?