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phreman
12-10-2010, 08:08 PM
if you beileve that human energy cannot be destroyed and the spirit lives on what would happen if there was a cataclysam that wiped out say 4 billion people...not everyone could be reborn via reincarnation so what would happen to the majority? would they be left in some sort of limbo until a suitable rebirth can be found

pikez
12-10-2010, 08:11 PM
doesn't this imply that time exists, meaning once someone dies they are immidiatley reincarnated no waiting, your putting yourself into the situation as a 3rd party watching it all, so ofcourse the timeframe makes no sense to you / you think the soul is in limbo.

phemohilia
12-10-2010, 08:19 PM
Why would the souls have to reincarnate back here? Why not another dimension? Why not even as a higher life-form that maybe we're not aware of at present?? :confused:

zen_anarchy
12-10-2010, 08:20 PM
Lord xenu would use his pimped out soul capturing hover ships to harvest all the souls of the dead ,

then in a million years time theese disturbed souls would become the neurosis of the next generation of intelligent life on earth

or so says the scientologists

i dont think the elites could manage more than 10 million deaths before the people of the earth deposed them

soleil
12-10-2010, 08:22 PM
Lord xenu would use his pimped out soul capturing hover ships to harvest all the souls of the dead ,



Was he the guy who chucked people into live volcanoes and lest any survived, threw in a few atomic bombs for good measure?

Quite a thorough fellow it seems.

phemohilia
12-10-2010, 08:26 PM
Was he the guy who chucked people into live volcanoes and lest any survived, threw in a few atomic bombs for good measure?

Quite a thorough fellow it seems.

No, I think he was L. Ron Hubbard's sugar-daddy.... ;)

thirty3
12-10-2010, 08:27 PM
Are you trying to say that the soul is in the body and thats it....body shaped...lol.

I'm not sure thats the case I think the soul is as big as the whole cosmos and it fits and there is only one. There is nothing to be moved or put anywhere.

pikez
12-10-2010, 08:32 PM
Are you trying to say that the soul is in the body and thats it....body shaped...lol.

I'm not sure thats the case I think the soul is as big as the whole cosmos and it fits and there is only one. There is nothing to be moved or put anywhere.

a possibility, but do you truly FEEL that or just like the way it sounds?

blackstar76
12-10-2010, 08:36 PM
There are trillions of planets in this universe. Maybe even other universes. No shortage of real estate for souls.

whatistruth
12-10-2010, 08:46 PM
^If souls exist in the first place.

infinite tea
12-10-2010, 10:23 PM
There's only One spirit....everything comes from that, exists through that and returns to that. It's like imagination....formless, timeless, insubstantial...does imagination exist? when it goes to sleep is it still there? Do the imaginings of the day disappear when imagination ceases?

We are all just products of our own imagination, this is a dream :-)

garydi
12-10-2010, 10:58 PM
more like a nightmare

infinite tea
13-10-2010, 10:25 PM
more like a nightmare

Take back your power then - face yourself - meditate on your third eye and humbly ask to be shown the truth that will set you free by your all knowing true self which is within :-)

piskavac
13-10-2010, 10:37 PM
if you beileve that human energy cannot be destroyed and the spirit lives on what would happen if there was a cataclysam that wiped out say 4 billion people...not everyone could be reborn via reincarnation so what would happen to the majority? would they be left in some sort of limbo until a suitable rebirth can be found

The wast majority will live in the astral realms unaccustomed to it. They will utterly want to return, but they can't. Those who according to Karma law will deserve to gain physical body will re-incarnate either on the Earth, eor on the Earth-like planet. But wast majority will be in the astral realm.

Survived remnants will sense those in the astral realms as demon-spirit who will ramble on the earth visiting ruined and destroyed villages and cities they lived in their Earth life.

thoughtmage
14-10-2010, 06:04 AM
Take back your power then - face yourself - meditate on your third eye and humbly ask to be shown the truth that will set you free by your all knowing true self which is within :-)

And not to be rude or anything, but what would you do if he actually did that and came up with a different answer than yours?

majorlee
14-10-2010, 07:30 AM
there is no afterlife, no spirit that leaves ur body when u die

u just return to the galactic dust you were made from in the first place, just without conciousness

its questions like this that help prove what i say is probably true!

thoughtmage
14-10-2010, 08:16 AM
And its posts like that that make me wonder why you are even on this forum if you don't have a similar mindset. Are you just here to push you opinion on others?

whatistruth
14-10-2010, 09:28 AM
To be fair, his only basis for believing there's no afterlife is he's a member of that moronic raelian cult, people need to be told what to believe.

If he was a christian cultist he'd be here telling you that you're going to hell for not believing in jesus.

killuminatiist
14-10-2010, 09:31 AM
there is no afterlife, no spirit that leaves ur body when u die

u just return to the galactic dust you were made from in the first place, just without conciousness

its questions like this that help prove what i say is probably true!


Maybe so, maybe not, I go with the second one, who is too say though.

kitler
14-10-2010, 09:37 AM
Reincarnation doesn't have to be linear.

If there are more people alive now than in the past then maybe we all just die and become the people of the past.

Maybe thats what the big plan was all along.

twilighterheart
14-10-2010, 09:39 AM
there is no afterlife, no spirit that leaves ur body when u die

u just return to the galactic dust you were made from in the first place, just without conciousness

its questions like this that help prove what i say is probably true!

Everything is just a thought anyways. The body is just the hardware, and the mind the software.

princessofwands
14-10-2010, 09:49 AM
A lot of them may be spiritless humans so they will probably dissolve back into nothingness upon physical death.

http://montalk.net/matrix/157/spiritless-humans

I was walking round a big shopping mall with my hubby. It was unusually busy and I complained to him about it. His reply was

"And half of them aren't even real..."

I asked him to explain and it went something like this...

'I can see right through them. There's nothing substantial there. Now and then I connect with someone who is real and there's a kind of liveliness in their eyes and they see me connecting and there's a kind of recognition of 'hurrah, here's another real one of us'."

:eek:

mikethepunk
14-10-2010, 09:58 AM
To the 4th dimension otherwise known as heaven. Some would reincarnate on the planet, some would move on to the 5th dimension and reincarnate on other planets and some would move to the 6th and be spirit guides. That is fact.

Although I am sure some or rather a lot of people would be stuck on the earth plane wondering what the hell happened.

whatistruth
14-10-2010, 11:11 AM
To the 4th dimension otherwise known as heaven. Some would reincarnate on the planet, some would move on to the 5th dimension and reincarnate on other planets and some would move to the 6th and be spirit guides. That is fact.

Although I am sure some or rather a lot of people would be stuck on the earth plane wondering what the hell happened.

Evidence of this 'fact'?

twilighterheart
14-10-2010, 11:53 AM
It's all about knowledge and information anyways. Those that are the most knowledgeable will simply move on, and those in pure ignorance will have to suffer because they refuse to get with it. We are infinite beings living for a short time in finiteness.

piskavac
14-10-2010, 12:21 PM
Why would the souls have to reincarnate back here? Why not another dimension? Why not even as a higher life-form that maybe we're not aware of at present?? :confused:

Because every soul who is incarnated here in human body, must take effort to develop spirituality here on the Earth, to deserve to go to the higher realms. Whether it is physical planet with more advanced civilisation, or even higher.

piskavac
14-10-2010, 12:24 PM
i dont think the elites could manage more than 10 million deaths before the people of the earth deposed them

It depends whether this 10 milions deaths will be on the TV, or not. If they manage TV show us, the life of Britney Spears, or Brad Pit and Anglelina Jolie, or Victoria and David Beckham, or whatsoever; they could manage this deaths.

piskavac
14-10-2010, 12:41 PM
Or they can simply show us, how Chilean miners are rescued, hiding before us much serious issue. Such as eco disaster in Hungary which is for now, far away to be resolved.

ragnarok
14-10-2010, 12:48 PM
How many thoughts can you fit in an average-sized brain?

How much of a person's essence is taken up this quality called 'spirit'?

SPIRIT - YouTube

infinite tea
14-10-2010, 03:09 PM
And not to be rude or anything, but what would you do if he actually did that and came up with a different answer than yours?

Why would it make any difference?

I'd say let's discuss that after you've actually tried it - it's easy, nothing to lose, if what I'm saying's right you're a winner, if what I say is wrong you've wasted a bit of time meditating.

The thing is - I know what I know, but to be shown proof first you must make the effort to search for the truth....all those who seek diligently shall find (Jesus). What do you think that means? What is it that you find?

Ask yourself "who am I?" - to know yourself is to know the essence of everything - but it takes courage, honesty, humility and a purity of intention to really make progress - are you up to the challenge? :-)

infinite tea
14-10-2010, 03:11 PM
there is no afterlife, no spirit that leaves ur body when u die

u just return to the galactic dust you were made from in the first place, just without conciousness

its questions like this that help prove what i say is probably true!

Who is this "you" that "you"are talking about? That's the question xx

infinite tea
14-10-2010, 03:19 PM
Here's a thought I had during a particularly weird "death" experience:

We are death imagining what life might be like - we cannot ever die because that in truth is what we are.

What is imagination when it is not imagining?

romas
14-10-2010, 04:49 PM
Into other animals, one planet, one existence.

romas
14-10-2010, 04:50 PM
Here's a thought I had during a particularly weird "death" experience:

We are death imagining what life might be like - we cannot ever die because that in truth is what we are.

What is imagination when it is not imagining?



That's good, I like.

mikethepunk
15-10-2010, 05:30 AM
Evidence of this 'fact'?

ask your higher power.

I cant site a source exactly until my book is written of course but this is what i have learned from studying spiritual truth since 1994. So basically many different books, a few different teachings and a stupid fucking medium that I regret going to.

sh3lly
15-10-2010, 05:49 AM
How many thoughts can you fit in an average-sized brain?

How much of a person's essence is taken up this quality called 'spirit'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDnvT27rus

That's a cool clip :)

ozpixie
15-10-2010, 05:55 AM
We aren't dead and we aren't alive = we just are. It's all a matter of how you look at it.

thoughtmage
15-10-2010, 05:58 AM
Why would it make any difference?

I'd say let's discuss that after you've actually tried it - it's easy, nothing to lose, if what I'm saying's right you're a winner, if what I say is wrong you've wasted a bit of time meditating.

The thing is - I know what I know, but to be shown proof first you must make the effort to search for the truth....all those who seek diligently shall find (Jesus). What do you think that means? What is it that you find?

Ask yourself "who am I?" - to know yourself is to know the essence of everything - but it takes courage, honesty, humility and a purity of intention to really make progress - are you up to the challenge? :-)

I have meditated all my life, though I didn't know exactly what I was doing until I had heard of meditation. I was merely providing a situation in which you may be wrong. You see, I would like to think myself enlightened, though I'm not about to expect anyone to believe me. Its not something I don't expect to be met with criticism and doubt, but I at least think I have some sort of higher understanding.

elpressiedente
15-10-2010, 06:05 AM
Earth is a prison planet for "troublesome" entities from all over this galaxy

once an entity is "sentenced" here one's energy cannot escape without "shielding"

All interplanetary craft are "shielded"

the Planets "bars" for 'living energy' are the "radiation" belts surrounding the Earth

as this planet is in a state of war... it receives all sorts of 'visitors', some who are engaged, some who visit, some who observe, some who are defending, etc

the results of the "rebirth" (reincarnation) are that the "memories" are wiped clean everytime. This keeps the inmates from knowing who they are and killing each other and escaping.

there are more "dead" souls than "live" souls on earth (so there's more than 8 biullion "dead" spirits with only 8 Billiuon "live" ones...

they "live" everywhere.

so to kill 5 Billion people will only see lots of "que" jumpers looking for a body to reincarnate into....

these are some of the "lords mysterious ways"

whatistruth
15-10-2010, 05:26 PM
Earth is a prison planet for "troublesome" entities from all over this galaxy

once an entity is "sentenced" here one's energy cannot escape without "shielding"

All interplanetary craft are "shielded"

the Planets "bars" for 'living energy' are the "radiation" belts surrounding the Earth

as this planet is in a state of war... it receives all sorts of 'visitors', some who are engaged, some who visit, some who observe, some who are defending, etc

the results of the "rebirth" (reincarnation) are that the "memories" are wiped clean everytime. This keeps the inmates from knowing who they are and killing each other and escaping.

there are more "dead" souls than "live" souls on earth (so there's more than 8 biullion "dead" spirits with only 8 Billiuon "live" ones...

they "live" everywhere.

so to kill 5 Billion people will only see lots of "que" jumpers looking for a body to reincarnate into....

these are some of the "lords mysterious ways"


Did you just make this up?

dolores1
15-10-2010, 10:21 PM
Home!

elpressiedente
15-10-2010, 11:40 PM
Did you just make this up?





ALIEN INTERVIEW
Based On Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by :
Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy


I had a shapeshifting Man In Black materialise in my bedroom (he shapeshifted into more than 100 "previous incarnations) tell me how the universe works...

10 years later the above is published and everything I was told and more is in the above article


you really cant make this up

sh3lly
16-10-2010, 01:41 AM
ALIEN INTERVIEW
Based On Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by :
Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy

I'm reading it now, very interesting.

romas
16-10-2010, 07:37 AM
Earth is a prison planet for "troublesome" entities from all over this galaxy

once an entity is "sentenced" here one's energy cannot escape without "shielding"

All interplanetary craft are "shielded"

the Planets "bars" for 'living energy' are the "radiation" belts surrounding the Earth

as this planet is in a state of war... it receives all sorts of 'visitors', some who are engaged, some who visit, some who observe, some who are defending, etc

the results of the "rebirth" (reincarnation) are that the "memories" are wiped clean everytime. This keeps the inmates from knowing who they are and killing each other and escaping.

there are more "dead" souls than "live" souls on earth (so there's more than 8 biullion "dead" spirits with only 8 Billiuon "live" ones...

they "live" everywhere.

so to kill 5 Billion people will only see lots of "que" jumpers looking for a body to reincarnate into....

these are some of the "lords mysterious ways"



This is Yahweh delusion all over again.

infinite tea
27-10-2010, 09:17 PM
I have meditated all my life, though I didn't know exactly what I was doing until I had heard of meditation. I was merely providing a situation in which you may be wrong. You see, I would like to think myself enlightened, though I'm not about to expect anyone to believe me. Its not something I don't expect to be met with criticism and doubt, but I at least think I have some sort of higher understanding.

The trick is not to think yourself enlightened - it is to realise that there is no you to be enlightened nor is there any "other" being to doubt your experience. There is only YOU, and YOU don't exist in any real sense :-) What is imagination when the fruits of the imagining are taken away? That's what YOU is ;-)

realview
27-10-2010, 11:02 PM
The spiritual/material division has plenty of room. Some would also become ghosts, some go to hell. Some would re-incarnate in non-human forms. Some may incarnate off planet or in planet.

elpressiedente
28-10-2010, 06:01 AM
The spiritual/material division has plenty of room. Some would also become ghosts, some go to hell. Some would re-incarnate in non-human forms. Some may incarnate off planet or in planet.

The spiritual/material division has plenty of room....... my fathers house has many mansions

Some would also become ghosts....... maybe

some go to hell..... earth is hell

Some would re-incarnate in non-human forms...... impossible

Some may incarnate off planet...... impossible this is a prison planet

or in planet..... but not right away

lordzoma
28-10-2010, 10:40 AM
The overwhelming majority of humanity are animal spirits, which are extensions of the one spirit of the Earth. Billions may die, but they are mostly pieces of the Earth's spirit.

As for the rest of us, well we go to the astral and beyond.

For those who die that won't be graduating from the 'reincarnation game', its on to another planet!

j35p3r4d0
30-10-2010, 07:05 AM
i think 'murdered' would be slightly more adequate than 'culled'



truth?