The Solway Firth "Spaceman"

[hagbard_celine]

On May 23 1964 Jim Templeton, a fireman from Carlisle, Cumbria, took his wife and 5 years old daughter out to on Burgh Marsh near the Solway Firth to take some photographs. They parked and walked out over a field with a lovely view. "All the animals on that particular day were away on the other end of the marsh, all huddled together, as though they'd been frightened." Jim said.

The weather was warm and sunny, and everything seemed normal. At a good spot they decided to take a photograph of his daughter in her new dress sitting with a bunch of hand-picked flowers. The snap taken, they moved off and took many more pictures of the walk.

A few days later Jim got his photographs back from the chemist. The man behind the counter said that it was a pity that the strange man in a costume had walked past had spoilt the best shot of Elizabeth holding a bunch of flowers. Jim was puzzled. There had been nobody else on the marshes nearby at the time. But sure enough, on the picture in question there was something odd: overlooking her left shoulder, at a canted angle, was what appeared to be a man in a bizarre all-in-one white suit with a tinted visor.

I've heard of this case before but never seen this picture in colour. I read about the case in Janet and Colin Bord's Modern Mysteies of Britain, but the picture they reproduced was black and white. I used to assume it was taken with a black and white camera, but not now. It looks far more impressive in colour and harder to write off as a fault on the film of a crushed insect in the photolab. Notice how the entity is definitely behind little Elizabeth's head and doesn't overlap it.

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I'm not surprised to find out that Jim Templeton was harrassed by Men-in-black in the weeks following the incident. This was many years before the concept of men-in-black became well-known in popular culture. I've recently spoken to other people who've been visted by these frightening people, (if indeed they are people in the sense we understand it). The person dressed in a white suit like the one in this case are common too and I know several people who've enountered them. If you can't see their face then it's not really safe to assume that whatever is inside the costume is an ordinary human.

Look at the picture again and see the unnatural position of the being's arm. It looks as a normal arm would look seen from behind, yet the head looks likes it would shot from the front.

[aitch]

Fascinating ..... got any links to other sources of the story ?

[hagbard_celine]

Fascinating ..... got any links to other sources of the story ?

Here's where I found the colour pic:http://www.ufologie.net/htm/solwayfirth64.htm

My friedn Ellis Taylor told me about it:http://www.ellisctaylor.com/doggeddays.html

The article points out something else new to me: In the backgrouns on the horizon of the photo is a nuclear power plant. Could this have a connection?

[raffles]

I remember watching a tv show called nationwide in the 70s and they had a feature on ufo's and they showed that picture, for some reason it freaked the hell out of me, mind you i was only about 7.

[peachped]

There is a little more to this story.:)


And just when you thought that was all - what happened next?

At Woomera in Australia the countdown to firing the unmanned 'Blue streak' missile was taking place on the same day the Templeton picture was taken....the launch was aborted when two of the controllers spotted two 'spacemen' wandering across the launch pad....the place was searched but nothing and no-one could be found - however the closing down of a multi million pound launch was no 'small matter' - Fortunately the 'spacemen' were captured on film....some time later the two controllers saw the Templeton pic and swore that what they saw were men dressed in exactly the same outfits as in the pic with the little girl - the filmed images backed this up.

All of the recordings on the film are still available from Woomera - except one can of film....the one showing the spacemen....

Now it gets even more bizarre - the 'Blue Streak' rockets although used by Australia and launched from Australia were built in Britain - just three miles from where Templeton took the picture of his daughter.....remember all this happened on the same day but in two different parts of the world.


http://www.planet-flipside.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=1381

Btw I think the figure is facing away from the camera.

[raffles]

There is a little more to this story.:)


And just when you thought that was all - what happened next?

At Woomera in Australia the countdown to firing the unmanned 'Blue streak' missile was taking place on the same day the Templeton picture was taken....the launch was aborted when two of the controllers spotted two 'spacemen' wandering across the launch pad....the place was searched but nothing and no-one could be found - however the closing down of a multi million pound launch was no 'small matter' - Fortunately the 'spacemen' were captured on film....some time later the two controllers saw the Templeton pic and swore that what they saw were men dressed in exactly the same outfits as in the pic with the little girl - the filmed images backed this up.

All of the recordings on the film are still available from Woomera - except one can of film....the one showing the spacemen....

Now it gets even more bizarre - the 'Blue Streak' rockets although used by Australia and launched from Australia were built in Britain - just three miles from where Templeton took the picture of his daughter.....remember all this happened on the same day but in two different parts of the world.


http://www.planet-flipside.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=1381

Btw I think the figure is facing away from the camera.

Didnt know that, thanks for the info peachped.

[hagbard_celine]

It certainly adds a new twist. It's especially significant that the same kind of entity was seen at Woomera. The fact that it was the same day makes it likely that there was a link between the two events.

Aliens are very interested in our use of nuclear power and weapons. The precence of the nuclear power station in the picture, together with the Blue Streak connection makes it almost logical in my eyes that an alien would appear.

[soundthief]

i remember this pic and story from an old book aswell

im curious as to whom the aliens were tho!

[graflok]

Look at the picture again and see the unnatural position of the being's arm. It looks as a normal arm would look seen from behind, yet the head looks likes it would shot from the front.

It looks to me that we are seeing the back of the "spaceman" and either
his "helmet" has a wrap-around visor or the back of it is of a dark color.

[utukxul]

maybe with their helm gear they can watch 360 degree all the time.
and it also give an optic illusion of what ever angel you are in, you see the front of the face. as it are rather pleasant to talk with people when they are looking back at you. like a hint that they have noticed you.

[hagbard_celine]

Yes that's right. It's always possible that their species has eyes in the back of its head. Either that or they see with something other than eyes.

[howie]

This was on Cumbria news today

Video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/regions/north_east/video/144000/bb/144090_16x9_bb.asx)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/looknorthnecumbria/latest_stories/index.shtml

[cruise4]

That image is remarkably similar to the time dispaced Sheridan on Babylon 4... in the Babylon 5 Series.

[hagbard_celine]

This was on Cumbria news today

Video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/regions/north_east/video/144000/bb/144090_16x9_bb.asx)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/looknorthnecumbria/latest_stories/index.shtml

Thanks! That's very interesting. I'm glad they're still discussing the incident today. I hope we'll solve the mystery wthin Templton's lifetime.

I wonder, did the reporter try to take a photo with the same camera in the same spot. If he did I wonder what came out! Will they show us?;)

[hagbard_celine]

This was on Cumbria news today

Video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/regions/north_east/video/144000/bb/144090_16x9_bb.asx)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/looknorthnecumbria/latest_stories/index.shtml


That's the first time I've heard Blue Streak mentioned in the manistream media. The news programme makes no attempt to explain what it is.

[hagbard_celine]

Just to let you know. My original blog article on this was for some reason, and by somebody, deleted!:confused::eek: I'll post it again in a couple of days and see what heppens.

[thirdwave]

On May 23 1964 Jim Templeton, a fireman from Carlisle, Cumbria, took his wife and 5 years old daughter out to on Burgh Marsh near the Solway Firth to take some photographs. They parked and walked out over a field with a lovely view. "All the animals on that particular day were away on the other end of the marsh, all huddled together, as though they'd been frightened." Jim said.

The weather was warm and sunny, and everything seemed normal. At a good spot they decided to take a photograph of his daughter in her new dress sitting with a bunch of hand-picked flowers. The snap taken, they moved off and took many more pictures of the walk.

A few days later Jim got his photographs back from the chemist. The man behind the counter said that it was a pity that the strange man in a costume had walked past had spoilt the best shot of Elizabeth holding a bunch of flowers. Jim was puzzled. There had been nobody else on the marshes nearby at the time. But sure enough, on the picture in question there was something odd: overlooking her left shoulder, at a canted angle, was what appeared to be a man in a bizarre all-in-one white suit with a tinted visor.

I've heard of this case before but never seen this picture in colour. I read about the case in Janet and Colin Bord's Modern Mysteies of Britain, but the picture they reproduced was black and white. I used to assume it was taken with a black and white camera, but not now. It looks far more impressive in colour and harder to write off as a fault on the film of a crushed insect in the photolab. Notice how the entity is definitely behind little Elizabeth's head and doesn't overlap it.

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I'm not surprised to find out that Jim Templeton was harrassed by Men-in-black in the weeks following the incident. This was many years before the concept of men-in-black became well-known in popular culture. I've recently spoken to other people who've been visted by these frightening people, (if indeed they are people in the sense we understand it). The person dressed in a white suit like the one in this case are common too and I know several people who've enountered them. If you can't see their face then it's not really safe to assume that whatever is inside the costume is an ordinary human.

Look at the picture again and see the unnatural position of the being's arm. It looks as a normal arm would look seen from behind, yet the head looks likes it would shot from the front.

I think the being is simply got his back turned and has a dark helmet on...

However, he must be very tall judging by the pic and maybe is a link to what that policeman in Wiltshire saw...

maybe there really are worm holes that these beings/people can come through on..

[disorder2k8]

didnt we already go through this, and I worked it out that it was a beekeeper costume, and someone mentioned there is a bee sanctuary near by or something

[hagbard_celine]

I think the being is simply got his back turned and has a dark helmet on...

However, he must be very tall judging by the pic and maybe is a link to what that policeman in Wiltshire saw...

maybe there really are worm holes that these beings/people can come through on..

Actually to get that kind of image the being must be floating slightly in the air, unless it has extrmely long legs. See how it's leaning over slightly, as if in a slightly off-kilter field of gravity.:confused:

[hagbard_celine]

didnt we already go through this, and I worked it out that it was a beekeeper costume, and someone mentioned there is a bee sanctuary near by or something

Dis, that's rather like the Rendleshman Forest runaway ice cream van:D. It can't possibly explain the encounter.

[disorder2k8]

but it does look like a beekeeper, right? And that is more sensible and logical at least than Buzz Aldrin creeping up on a small girl to poke her in the back and go "oogidy boogidy boo"

I still dont know what the beekeeper is doing there, of course, that is a mystery, perhaps he just felt the need to photobomb (http://photo-bombers.com/)some random people

I think it was size_of_light that brought this up before.

[hagbard_celine]

but it does look like a beekeeper, right? And that is more sensible and logical at least than Buzz Aldrin creeping up on a small girl to poke her in the back and go "oogidy boogidy boo"

I still dont know what the beekeeper is doing there, of course, that is a mystery, perhaps he just felt the need to photobomb (http://photo-bombers.com/)some random people

Beekeepers are a sadistic bunch!:D;) At least there were bees around in those days!:(

I wonder why Jim Templeton and Elizabeth never saw anything though.:confused: There's also the Men-in-Black encounters afterwards. This was many years before the notion of Men-in-Black entered popular culture. Also look at the beings posture, its arm, the way it's leaning. It would also have to be either 8 feet tall of levitating. Nah, mate. I don't know what it is, but it ain't no beekeeper.:confused:

[marpat]

That is know as the Cumbria spaceman

That picture looks a bit more enhanced though

[hagbard_celine]

That is know as the Cumbria spaceman

That picture looks a bit more enhanced though

I first saw mthis in thee book Modern Mysteries of Britain by Janet and Colin Bord and it was a poor quality black-and-white print. This "enhanced" version is the original I think.

[jamesc]

Jenny Randles who worked for BRUFO,(BRITISH RESEARCH IN TO UNINDEMNIFIED FLYING OBJECTS ), investigate this and every time she asked the MOD more info on it she was knocked back?? She admitted that there were photos missing and with held by the MOD,:eek::cool:

[hagbard_celine]

Jenny Randles who worked for BRUFO,(BRITISH RESEARCH IN TO UNINDEMNIFIED FLYING OBJECTS ), investigate this and every time she asked the MOD more info on it she was knocked back?? She admitted that there were photos missing and with held by the MOD,:eek::cool:


She's a good lady, one of my favourite ufologists. She broke out Rendlesham forest to the press:cool:.

[marpat]

Im not too far from Solway myself.

[jamesc]

She's a good lady, one of my favourite ufologists. She broke out Rendlesham forest to the press:cool:.

You are correct hagbard, she did indeed break Rendlesham to the MSM.:cool::)

[hagbard_celine]

Im not too far from Solway myself.

Take a stroll up on the Burgh Marsh and see if anything strange happens. UFO's and aliens seem to have a fixation with nuclear power and weapons.

[hagbard_celine]

You are correct hagbard, she did indeed break Rendlesham to the MSM.:cool::)

Some people complain that not enough women are involved in UFO research. Well leaving aside excellent UFOlogists like Linda Moulton Howe and Paola Harris, it was Jenny and her two ladyfriends who did all the legwork to get Rendlesham Forest released.:cool:

[spaceman64]

I think this excellent picture posted on my site http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk covers the angle and depth of the individual on the photo well.

Credit to Switchy for creating it :

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/126/2956/original.jpg

[belch]

I think this excellent picture posted on my site http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk covers the angle and depth of the individual on the photo well.

Credit to Switchy for creating it :

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/126/2956/original.jpg

Or you could take something like this.
http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=1021&pictureid=10591
Tie it to a pole and then stick it in the ground.
When you have done that, Carefuly position the girl in the right place and then take a picture.

This is so obviously fake its laughable.

[neutrino]

Looks like a Dummy to me.

[4everawake]

Ok,at first i thought it was a 'spaceman' also,but looking more closely i see:

African-American male
facing away
possibly wearing glasses
step haircut or weird hat/cap
maybe an earring/earpiece of some sort
skinny white top with some kind of a 'strap' maybe

Maybe its tupac lol...

Anyway,i dont think the 'being' is space related,could be wrong of course.

[belch]

Oh ffs just look at it.
Its a toy!
Fuck me, How people can even entertain this shit is beyond me, How fukin thick people must be. Its a Toy! Its faked! Its so badley done, That kids could have pulled it off! Its Crap!

Its a Toy!

[hagbard_celine]

I think this excellent picture posted on my site http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk covers the angle and depth of the individual on the photo well.

Credit to Switchy for creating it :

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/126/2956/original.jpg Thanks. That's an interesting reproduction.:)

[hagbard_celine]

Oh ffs just look at it.
Its a toy!
Fuck me, How people can even entertain this shit is beyond me, How fukin thick people must be. Its a Toy! Its faked! Its so badley done, That kids could have pulled it off! Its Crap!

Its a Toy! In your derision for individual people who take this seriously you display your own stupidity and ignorance.:mad:

How do you explain the Blue Streak link?:confused: Why did Templeton do it?:confused: Why was he involved with phenomena which are commonplace to us today but were not a part of pupular culture in 1964?:confused: To this day he sticks by his story, even when he could make a fortune coming clean with the "hoax", judging by the media's current thirst for "I fooled the world" stories!:D

This case has been investigated by two very level-headed researchers: Janet and Colin Bord, two people who are not the type to jump off the deep end into the swimming pool conclusion too eagerly.;):rolleyes:

[jllizzoyd]

Very interesting story. I've never seen that picture before.

It certainly seems like it is an astronauts suit, and seems to be facing away from the girl by looking at the angle of the arm and the posture of what appears to be the back.

Is there any footage or photo-stills from the Blue Streak incident? The link between blue streak and that photo of the girl is fascinating.

[the author]

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Daft Punk?

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[jamesc]

Here are three texts of information below on this photo, what gets me is this,that there was another sighting of a very similar figure in Australia the figure in Cumbria looked the same as the ones that they had seen on the monitor at Woomera in Australia;:confused::cool:
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Blue Streak launch;

"A Blue Streak launch at the Woomera Test Range, using Cumbrian-built weaponry,[6] had been aborted because of two large men seen on the firing range. Technicians at the time did not know about Templeton's sighting until it appeared on the front page of an Australian newspaper, and they said that the figure in Cumbria looked the same as the ones that they had seen on the monitor at Woomera.[3][4] Templeton told the BBC that technicians considered the two figures to be "exactly the same type of man: same dress, same figure, same size" as in the original photograph;";):cool:

" analysts at Kodak confirmed that the photograph was genuine".[2]

link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solway_Firth_Spaceman

quote;
"Department of Scientific Intelligence writing a memo on it for the Ministry of Defense and asking was it similar to the figures that appeared on the Woomera film, it would have vanished into the mists of time.

"There again just maybe, they were a little concerned that this figure, seemingly similar to others appearing on the other side of the world, in the same time frame, had shown up a couple of miles from where Britain was developing the rocket silo design that was to go on to be adopted by the USA for most of it's land based nuclear arsenal".

link; http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread621263/pg1

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1960′s, England – A local Cumbrian man takes one of the most extraodinary photo’s ever seen.

It was May 23, 1964 and a local Cumbrian (UK) firefighter called Jim Templeton took his wife and daughter to Burgh Marsh an area of natural beauty approximately eight miles west of Carlisle, Northern England. Before Jim Templeton set foot there, Burgh Marsh’s claim to fame was as the site where King Edward I died of dysentry in 1307 on his way back from Scotland. John who was an amateur photographer wanted to take some photos of their daughter Elizabeth with his Kodak SLR. She posed for him sitting on the grass for one of what was to become one of the most remarkable photographic mysteries ever.

A few days later, whilst popping into the local chemist to pickup the newly developed snaps the chemist remarked to Jim that the photo’s had come out well. Here is one of the three :

http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/cumberland-spaceman.jpg

But, the chemist remarked, it was a pity about the idiot who was standing behind Elizabeth in one of the pictures. Jim looked at the picture in question and this is what he saw:



The figure appeared to be standing right behind Elizabeth, how had Jim not noticed this bizarre tall figure encroaching his shot? Jim and his family never saw another person on their walk, and this mysterious figure wasn’t in any of the other photographs Jim had taken. He had taken three pictures in quick succession of Elizabeth and only the middle one of the three had this figure on it.

The story could have ended there but word soon got round and the photo made the local and then national papers.

The photograph made it down under and was published in Australia newspapers soon after. The newspapers in Australia requested a copy of the negative of the picture, as they had their own strange sighting to report that happened to coincide with the figure in Jim’s photo.

Woomera, Australia was the launch site of a big space project called Blue Streak. On May 23, 1964;
http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/bluestreak-woomera-300x221.jpg

Woomera, Australia was the launch site of a big space project called Blue Streak. On May 23, 1964 a rocket launch countdown was apparently aborted when security cameras caught two “men” in white spacesuits walking around the launch pad. When the site was checked later by security staff no person or tracks could be found. This freaky incident happened within hours of Jim snapping his photograph on the otherside of the world.

Later, Jim learned that rockets used for the Blue Streak project were being manufactured at RAF Spadeadam, England which is only a few miles from Burgh Marsh.

The picture and negative was exhaustively examined by Kodak’s finest experts for any signs of tampering or hoax but none could be found. They then offered a reward of free film for a year to any person that could solve the mystery as to how this figure got into the picture. To this day the reward lies unclaimed.

This is where the legend of the Cumberland Spaceman was born.

Stranger still, Jim was visited by two strangers wearing dark suits who claimed to be Government officials driving a dark Jaguar and pulled Jim out of his day job to take them and show them the site where the photo was taken. They asked Jim specific questions about the weather, had he seen any local people or animal activity on the day. They then tried to get Jim to admit that it was all just a big hoax, to which Jim refused to admit. It was at that point they drove off and left him and it was a five mile hike back to the firestation where Jim worked.

Australian reporters wanted to view the blue streak film taken on May 23rd, but were told it was all convieniently missing. To this day it has never surfaced.

The only known fact in this case bar the photo itself is that a friend of mine knows Jim Templeton and one thing is for sure, they have never proved that the photo was a fake and Jim Templeton never made any serious money from it.

Strange indeed.

Have a look at my own investigation into the Spaceman photo here.
http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/spaceman-home/investigations-spaceman-photo/

Check out this excellent video of the incident from Disclose.tv taken from a UK UFO program presented by Jenny Randles. Featuring an interview with Jim Templeton.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50163/the_cumberland_spaceman_1964/

Disclose.tv – the cumberland spaceman 1964 Video;

link; http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/spaceman-home/the-real-cumberland-spaceman/
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According to the book Out of the Shadows by Dr David Clarke the photo is a fake. The photo was analysed by a Roger Green of Bradford University who concluded that "the photo was a composite made using some superimposition technique".

However Dr Clarke does not believe that Jim Templeton faked it himself. Jim Templeton had a reputation as a bit of a practial joker and was well known by the staff where he got the photos developed. Dr Clarke believes that they faked the photos as a way of getting thier own back, and were going to tell Mr Templeton later. However the whole thing quickly got out of hand, and after all the attention the photo attracted they felt they had no option but to keep quiet.

As for the M.I.B, Nick Pope believes they were civilians impersonating MoD officials for their own ends.
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So we have two independent photo experts coming up with two different conclusions, Kodak claiming it genuine and a one Roger Green of Bradford University claiming it fake;:confused::cool::rolleyes:

[belch]

Here are three texts of information below on this photo, what gets me is this,that there was another sighting of a very similar figure in Australia the figure in Cumbria looked the same as the ones that they had seen on the monitor at Woomera in Australia;:confused::cool:
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Blue Streak launch;

"A Blue Streak launch at the Woomera Test Range, using Cumbrian-built weaponry,[6] had been aborted because of two large men seen on the firing range. Technicians at the time did not know about Templeton's sighting until it appeared on the front page of an Australian newspaper, and they said that the figure in Cumbria looked the same as the ones that they had seen on the monitor at Woomera.[3][4] Templeton told the BBC that technicians considered the two figures to be "exactly the same type of man: same dress, same figure, same size" as in the original photograph;";):cool:

" analysts at Kodak confirmed that the photograph was genuine".[2]

link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solway_Firth_Spaceman

quote;
"Department of Scientific Intelligence writing a memo on it for the Ministry of Defense and asking was it similar to the figures that appeared on the Woomera film, it would have vanished into the mists of time.

"There again just maybe, they were a little concerned that this figure, seemingly similar to others appearing on the other side of the world, in the same time frame, had shown up a couple of miles from where Britain was developing the rocket silo design that was to go on to be adopted by the USA for most of it's land based nuclear arsenal".

link; http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread621263/pg1

************************************************** ********

1960′s, England – A local Cumbrian man takes one of the most extraodinary photo’s ever seen.

It was May 23, 1964 and a local Cumbrian (UK) firefighter called Jim Templeton took his wife and daughter to Burgh Marsh an area of natural beauty approximately eight miles west of Carlisle, Northern England. Before Jim Templeton set foot there, Burgh Marsh’s claim to fame was as the site where King Edward I died of dysentry in 1307 on his way back from Scotland. John who was an amateur photographer wanted to take some photos of their daughter Elizabeth with his Kodak SLR. She posed for him sitting on the grass for one of what was to become one of the most remarkable photographic mysteries ever.

A few days later, whilst popping into the local chemist to pickup the newly developed snaps the chemist remarked to Jim that the photo’s had come out well. Here is one of the three :

http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/cumberland-spaceman.jpg

But, the chemist remarked, it was a pity about the idiot who was standing behind Elizabeth in one of the pictures. Jim looked at the picture in question and this is what he saw:



The figure appeared to be standing right behind Elizabeth, how had Jim not noticed this bizarre tall figure encroaching his shot? Jim and his family never saw another person on their walk, and this mysterious figure wasn’t in any of the other photographs Jim had taken. He had taken three pictures in quick succession of Elizabeth and only the middle one of the three had this figure on it.

The story could have ended there but word soon got round and the photo made the local and then national papers.

The photograph made it down under and was published in Australia newspapers soon after. The newspapers in Australia requested a copy of the negative of the picture, as they had their own strange sighting to report that happened to coincide with the figure in Jim’s photo.

Woomera, Australia was the launch site of a big space project called Blue Streak. On May 23, 1964;
http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/bluestreak-woomera-300x221.jpg

Woomera, Australia was the launch site of a big space project called Blue Streak. On May 23, 1964 a rocket launch countdown was apparently aborted when security cameras caught two “men” in white spacesuits walking around the launch pad. When the site was checked later by security staff no person or tracks could be found. This freaky incident happened within hours of Jim snapping his photograph on the otherside of the world.

Later, Jim learned that rockets used for the Blue Streak project were being manufactured at RAF Spadeadam, England which is only a few miles from Burgh Marsh.

The picture and negative was exhaustively examined by Kodak’s finest experts for any signs of tampering or hoax but none could be found. They then offered a reward of free film for a year to any person that could solve the mystery as to how this figure got into the picture. To this day the reward lies unclaimed.

This is where the legend of the Cumberland Spaceman was born.

Stranger still, Jim was visited by two strangers wearing dark suits who claimed to be Government officials driving a dark Jaguar and pulled Jim out of his day job to take them and show them the site where the photo was taken. They asked Jim specific questions about the weather, had he seen any local people or animal activity on the day. They then tried to get Jim to admit that it was all just a big hoax, to which Jim refused to admit. It was at that point they drove off and left him and it was a five mile hike back to the firestation where Jim worked.

Australian reporters wanted to view the blue streak film taken on May 23rd, but were told it was all convieniently missing. To this day it has never surfaced.

The only known fact in this case bar the photo itself is that a friend of mine knows Jim Templeton and one thing is for sure, they have never proved that the photo was a fake and Jim Templeton never made any serious money from it.

Strange indeed.

Have a look at my own investigation into the Spaceman photo here.
http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/spaceman-home/investigations-spaceman-photo/

Check out this excellent video of the incident from Disclose.tv taken from a UK UFO program presented by Jenny Randles. Featuring an interview with Jim Templeton.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50163/the_cumberland_spaceman_1964/

Disclose.tv – the cumberland spaceman 1964 Video;

link; http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/spaceman-home/the-real-cumberland-spaceman/
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According to the book Out of the Shadows by Dr David Clarke the photo is a fake. The photo was analysed by a Roger Green of Bradford University who concluded that "the photo was a composite made using some superimposition technique".

However Dr Clarke does not believe that Jim Templeton faked it himself. Jim Templeton had a reputation as a bit of a practial joker and was well known by the staff where he got the photos developed. Dr Clarke believes that they faked the photos as a way of getting thier own back, and were going to tell Mr Templeton later. However the whole thing quickly got out of hand, and after all the attention the photo attracted they felt they had no option but to keep quiet.

As for the M.I.B, Nick Pope believes they were civilians impersonating MoD officials for their own ends.
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So we have two independent photo experts coming up with two different conclusions, Kodak claiming it genuine and a one Roger Green of Bradford University claiming it fake;:confused::cool::rolleyes:


The Ministry Of Defence Says "Similar".
A beekeeper is Similar, The Dunlop man is Similar and some toys are Similar.
Do you take the word of a "BBC technician" Or that of "The Ministry Of Defence".

Also the 2 spacemen seen walking around a missile site. Look at your second pic, the rocket, whats that standing by it ? Oh my, its 2 men in white.
Mm, Men in white suits in a missile testing site, What chances of technicians being around when a launch is due to take place, What chance of men in white at such locations.
The film of these 2 "Spacemen". Where is it. Oh yes as usual it does not exist, Its not there.

"Stranger still, Jim was visited by two strangers wearing dark suits who claimed to be Government officials driving a dark Jaguar and pulled Jim out of his day job to take them and show them the site where the photo was taken. They asked Jim specific questions about the weather, had he seen any local people or animal activity on the day. They then tried to get Jim to admit that it was all just a big hoax, to which Jim refused to admit. It was at that point they drove off and left him and it was a five mile hike back to the firestation where Jim worked."

How does anyone know these guys were from the Gov.
Just his word on that 1.
Could have been reporters for all we know. No story, you can walk home.


This is just a bad fake.

[jamesc]

The Ministry Of Defence Says "Similar".
A beekeeper is Similar, The Dunlop man is Similar and some toys are Similar.
Do you take the word of a "BBC technician" Or that of "The Ministry Of Defence".

Also the 2 spacemen seen walking around a missile site. Look at your second pic, the rocket, whats that standing by it ? Oh my, its 2 men in white.
Mm, Men in white suits in a missile testing site, What chances of technicians being around when a launch is due to take place, What chance of men in white at such locations.
The film of these 2 "Spacemen". Where is it. Oh yes as usual it does not exist, Its not there.

"Stranger still, Jim was visited by two strangers wearing dark suits who claimed to be Government officials driving a dark Jaguar and pulled Jim out of his day job to take them and show them the site where the photo was taken. They asked Jim specific questions about the weather, had he seen any local people or animal activity on the day. They then tried to get Jim to admit that it was all just a big hoax, to which Jim refused to admit. It was at that point they drove off and left him and it was a five mile hike back to the firestation where Jim worked."

How does anyone know these guys were from the Gov.
Just his word on that 1.
Could have been reporters for all we know. No story, you can walk home.


This is just a bad fake.



As i said before i am not sure on this one but one thing is for sure judging by the quote below that the volume of aborted rocket launches that were due to staff wondering about the launch pad SECONDS before launching is pretty low;;)Also we have this ,"when the site was checked later by security staff no person or tracks could be found".Now what are the chances of launch personnel not only wandering about the launch pad before launching but NOT being AWARE of health and safety and launch protocol procedures;;:confused

:Also" technicians,(from"Woomera, Australia), considered the two figures to be "exactly the same type of man: same dress, same figure, same size" as in the original photograph;"What are the chances of a second independent witness such as the technicians,(from"Woomera, Australia),confirming the sighting on their monitors of a similar being,this second independent vitrification from credible source's, technicians,(from"Woomera, Australia), leads me to perceive that something or something strange happened or manifested in these two separate incidents;:cool:

Also we have to listen to Jenny Randles who was responsible from filling a freedom of information request from the MOD on this incident and pointed out that some important MOD files on this case were not supplied to her because of a 50 year wait, nothing to hide then;

quote;
"The analysis of the Solway Firth photograph is beyond laughable. They haven't a clue what they are talking about. The horizon in many hundreds of feet behind the girl's head, by their reckoning the bloke in the frame would have been about 25 foot tall. Still when did facts ever obstruct a good * debunk*. Theses sort of people are every bit as laughable and weak minded as the sort who claim every light in the sky is an alien ship.;):cool:

Judging by the number of times the MOD has lied in the past of taking any interest or investigation's of UFOs seriously i would not be blamed for siding with the BBC technician on this one,so forgive me i choose to take the word of a "BBC technician" over that of "The Ministry Of Defence" on this one;
Also as i pointed out in my original post we have two independent annalists of this photo coming up with two different conclusions on this photo so who do we believe hear, Kodak’s finest experts or a one Roger Green of Bradford University who is claiming this fake;:confused:This case is a strange one and i am undecided for now;:D


Check out this excellent video of the incident from Disclose.tv taken from a UK UFO program presented by Jenny Randles. Featuring an interview with Jim Templeton.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50163/the_cumberland_spaceman_1964/

quote;
"Woomera, Australia was the launch site of a big space project called Blue Streak. On May 23, 1964 a rocket launch countdown was apparently aborted when security cameras caught two “men” in white spacesuits walking around the launch pad. When the site was checked later by security staff no person or tracks could be found. This freaky incident happened within hours of Jim snapping his photograph on the otherside of the world".

[belch]

2 space men

They say the launch was aborted because of these 2 men in white. Maybe they aborted for other reasons and used "2 men in white" as an excuse.
Maybe they did not want to admit to costly or embarassing technical faults.
Incase of technical difficulties you would expect technicians to be around the area, I would expect them to be on standby.

No footprints.

That rocket site did not look to be made out of sand or mud, ie something that would show footprints. If it was it would be blown away on launch.
Like most rocket launchpads i would expect it to be concrete. So how would they expect to find footprints in an enviroment like that, In that day and age , And if they did, Then how could they distinguish them from regular footprints left by regular technicians ?

Discard the footprints, No foot prints is no evidence of anything.

The interview at the guys house.

He's got his story memorised over time, he does not get lead astray, he does not answer her (the interviewer) questions in order, If they do not fit with his order of memory. She asks him a question and he gives her an answer to a different question, then she asks another question and he gives her the answer to the original question.
He is following his routine that he learnt and has been practicing for all those years.


Im not buying it.
Its a toy on a stick and the Australian thing is a case of mistaken identity or a cover up for failed missile launch that would look very embarassing and difficult to explain. No film of Aus spacemen seals it for me as we can not even see if the Cumbrian and Australian are indeed the same.

[jamesc]

2 space men

They say the launch was aborted because of these 2 men in white. Maybe they aborted for other reasons and used "2 men in white" as an excuse.
Maybe they did not want to admit to costly or embarassing technical faults.
Incase of technical difficulties you would expect technicians to be around the area, I would expect them to be on standby.

No footprints.

That rocket site did not look to be made out of sand or mud, ie something that would show footprints. If it was it would be blown away on launch.
Like most rocket launchpads i would expect it to be concrete. So how would they expect to find footprints in an enviroment like that, In that day and age , And if they did, Then how could they distinguish them from regular footprints left by regular technicians ?

Discard the footprints, No foot prints is no evidence of anything.

The interview at the guys house.

He's got his story memorised over time, he does not get lead astray, he does not answer her (the interviewer) questions in order, If they do not fit with his order of memory. She asks him a question and he gives her an answer to a different question, then she asks another question and he gives her the answer to the original question.
He is following his routine that he learnt and has been practicing for all those years.


Im not buying it.
Its a toy on a stick and the Australian thing is a case of mistaken identity or a cover up for failed missile launch that would look very embarassing and difficult to explain. No film of Aus spacemen seals it for me as we can not even see if the Cumbrian and Australian are indeed the same.



Yip, there are a lot of "maybes" in your post so we will leave it at that but for all you have said in your post it does not dis prove or alter the fact that the launch personnel would be totally aware and briefed on launched procedures and i cannot perceive any personnel risking their life on a launch platform mins from a live launch;

The fact that someone matching the description of the person photographed in the Solway Firth was seen on the monitors by the launch personnel is highly unusual ; Are we to believe that a cover up story that contains such a highly unusual excuse of a matching individual that was also photographed in Solway Firth would have been considered never mind put forward to cover up a failed launch mission, sorry i do not buy that, less attention not more would have been the goal i think;

That there was and never has been any release of this film is not surprising in my view if this showed a very unusual person on the launch pad, would they release it, i think not;On the footprints i will dig deeper on the launch pad make up;

Why would they make up a story of a strange person seen on the launch pad to cover up a failed rocket launch:confused: and draw much more attention, surely to admit a failed launch is better than starting lies about boggy men on the launch pad, does not make sense or add up;The

[jamesc]

Seems like a one Jenny Randles , British UFO researcher for the UK UFO investigation or B.U.F.O.R.A. was one of the main investigators who took the time and trouble to dig deeper on this case;She requested MOD investigation reports from the British MOD and came across their reports for the Solwayfirth incident;This MOD paper clearer states that this case was regarded as a high strangeness case and even went on to acknowledge the case involving the tecks from the aborted rocket launch in Australia who claimed they saw two people resembling the Solwayfirth individual;

This MOD document then states that the film of these two individuals seen on the monitors in the Australian case was being investigated,in short it existed and was clearly causing some concern to the authorities but no records of its whereabouts or what its conclusions where was found by Jenny Randles,she believed that these records of this film and its conclusions reached where kept secret and still are to this day;Sal in all we have a case that has the following ;

1;Jenny Randles filed an FOIA to the MOD. IIRC she got some documents back concerning the Blue Streak rocket test which were conducted near the site of the pic but other documents regarding the film of the aborted rocket test showing two individuals who matched the descriptions of the Solwayfirth are missing,WHY;:confused:;)

2;And then there's the Australian Blue Streak test(same year I think) where they supposedly saw similar beings.


This video gives an outline of the case AND jenny Randles investigation and MOD papers on this case;

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdxw39_the-solway-firth-spaceman-mystery-1_tech


There is a book " MIB INVESTIGATING THE TRUTH BEHIND THE MEN IN BLACK PHENOMENON " by Jenny Randles and covers the Solwayfirth incident in depth.:cool:

[belch]

Yawnzzzz.

Donkies years ago, No proof of nothing if anything at all, Toy on a stick.

What are you hoping to prove now? Are you hoping that the film will suddenly appear and that it will seal the case ?
Its old hat ! Its done ! There is nothing more to investigate ! This conspiracy is finished !

Yada yada Bluestreak. Yada yada 2 men in black. Yada yada Nuclear blah.

There is zero proof for any of it, What are you hoping to achieve here ?
Are you expecting someone to come to the thread with new evidence or something ?

People here are like dogs with bones. They just will not let go.

Why dont you just repeat it all again eh, Maybe you will get a different result, Maybe ! But i garuntee you will end up with exactly what you have now where this case is concerned..........Fuck All.

Let it lay ffs.

[geewhizz]

The Cumbrian spaceman thingy is definitely a picture of the back of a male.

It's soo obvious if you look at the elbow.

Very eerie photo though.

[jamesc]

After a wee bit more digging i stumbled across this very revealing piece of information, again it involves UFO researcher Jenny Randles;Below are three important facts that need consideration of the significance they hold to this particular case;:cool:



1;"There is a letter in the Public Records Office in Kew, London uncovered by ufologist Jenny Randles which is dated 1964 December 29th referring to the Cumberland Spaceman by the Ministry of Defence (MOD). In it are references by the Department of Scientific and Technical Intelligence (DSTI) of an investigation into the matter".

2;" Another letter there dated 1964 June 15th is from a reporter enquiring about the aborted launch and the film in question which shows an extraordinary object hovering nearby that is 'impossible to miss'.;) A response to this letter from the MOD informs the reporter that he should contact them if he wishes to view the film".;)

3;"Mysteriously, in the series of film canisters holding the Blue Streak missile launches, one is missing. The missing canister is the film of the launches for the week beginning "SUNDAY,MAY 23,1964;;):cool:

link; http://www.ufologie.net/htm/solwayfirth64.htm

[size_of_light]

Good info jamesc.

I think this guy is still active today...

http://i56.tinypic.com/208i69u.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2jb2w74.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/16gjuhe.jpg

Video: ALIEN ALERT: ASHTAR IN SOUTH AMERICA??!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbref_gkF3k

Note the similar appearance of a 'hood' draping down the entity's upper back in both images.

[jamesc]

Yawnzzzz.

Donkies years ago, No proof of nothing if anything at all, Toy on a stick.

What are you hoping to prove now? Are you hoping that the film will suddenly appear and that it will seal the case ?
Its old hat ! Its done ! There is nothing more to investigate ! This conspiracy is finished !

Yada yada Bluestreak. Yada yada 2 men in black. Yada yada Nuclear blah.

There is zero proof for any of it, What are you hoping to achieve here ?
Are you expecting someone to come to the thread with new evidence or something ?

People here are like dogs with bones. They just will not let go.

Why dont you just repeat it all again eh, Maybe you will get a different result, Maybe ! But i garuntee you will end up with exactly what you have now where this case is concerned..........Fuck All.

Let it lay ffs.


As i said i will be the one who decides when ,where ,how,why and when i decide to have a finale view on this case, not you or your immature outbursts or anyone else will say what i can or can not hold on this case. Jenny Randles has proved beyond a doubt that some film was held back from public records and that in here interview with Templeton found him to be sincere and truthful;

I have offered Jenny Randles as one who i would listen to over you, she has at least dug deeper and uncovered MOD docs that show that they considered the aborted rocket launch and the Solway firth case strange enough to investigate;Without resorting to a" Yada yada Bluestreak. Yada yada 2 men in black. Yada yada Nuclear blah" kind of mentality:rolleyes: i would say that this case holds enough mysteries to form a genuine unknown level of high strangeness;:D;)

On the film suddenly appearing and solving this case ,yes that is part of it but until we actually know what's on the film then i guess we will never really know and on that note until we do see that film,then this case remains for now,UNRESOLVED;:D

Was it not you who first raised the notion of the film and if you would care to take a closer and deeper study of the cases i have highlighted on my thread named "THE CHRONICLE UFO DIRECTORY THREAD"you would probably have to concede that "the bones" on that thread and the cases covered are well worth not letting go but needed exposure to show that not every thing is considered fake;

If i find more circumstantial evidence on this case then it will be posted on this thread, for things have a habit of turning up when you least expect the to and UFO cases are well known for that;:cool;So far know one has proved beyond a doubt that what we see in that picture is a puppet on a stick;:D:rolleyes:There have been studies of this picture in trying to find out the measurements of this individual based on the distance from the girls head to the horizon , will post these findings later but for now in my perception this case remains unsolved;:cool:

[jamesc]

Forgot to add this;

Not long afterwards the editor of the Cumberland News newspaper contacted Jim and asked if he could borrow the negative to send a copy out to Australia. Apparently the photograph had appeared in the press there and staff working at the Woomera test range area in Southern Australia had seen it. Jim was told that the day after he took his photograph, a Blue Streak space rocket was due to be launched from Woomera in Australia.

The countdown was postponed when two automatic survey camera had independently spotted two large figures in the firing area during the countdown phase. They were very similar in appearance to Jim's mysterious visitor. At the time of the launch, the photograph had not reached Australia and the staff had no knowledge of the bizarre image.

The Woomera missile test range was run by Group Captain Tom Dalton-Morgan from 1959-1963 and he came forward with his own story.Prior to the test firing of an earlier "Blue Streak" rocket, observers stationed 100 miles down range called to tell Tom that there was a "light" heading his way at incredible speed, towards restricted air space.

Tom and several scientists watched as the light circled the facility, then shot away and vanished. He remarked that he "could not conceive of any plane or missile that was able to perform the maneuvers seen by my team". He said UFOs were frequently seen in the area and that in 1964 they had aborted the launch of another test when a "white being" was seen on the automatic security cameras.


Link;http://www.ufologie.net/htm/solwayfirth64.htm

[size_of_light]

Good info jamesc.

I think this guy is still active today...

http://i56.tinypic.com/208i69u.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2jb2w74.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/16gjuhe.jpg

Video: ALIEN ALERT: ASHTAR IN SOUTH AMERICA??!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbref_gkF3k

Note the similar appearance of a 'hood' draping down the entity's upper back in both images.

i.e:

http://i51.tinypic.com/2gvq0w4.jpg

[size_of_light]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2gvq0w4.jpg

Another interesting parallel is that in both cases the witnesses didn't see the entity directly.

The Solway Firth alien only appeared when the photo was developed. The girls who recorded the "Ashtar in South America" video could only see the figure on the screen of their cellphone.

[belch]

Retards.

When all else fails bring out the pixelated pictures of FUCK ALL.

SOL, that is pure bubbleheadedness.

Out!

[size_of_light]

Retards.

When all else fails bring out the pixelated pictures of FUCK ALL.

SOL, that is pure bubbleheadedness.

Out!

As seen in the dailymotion clip jamesc posted, it was demonstrated with official documents that the Solway Firth case was of strong interest to the government of the day. More subjectively, but no less convincing in my view, is the interview with the guy who took the photo. It reveals him to be a straight-shooter telling the truth about the picture and what happened to him with the government agents afterwards.

The 'Avatar in South America' footage bears none of the usual, obviously staged hallmarks of a faked video and I think the movements of the strange figure in it have an eerie, 'ethereal' quality to them.

Since there are noticeable similarities between the figures in both cases - which pixellation has no bearing on - I'd suggest you're the one who's being bubbleheaded about all this. ;)

[size_of_light]

Here's some interesting screen captures from an ABC Australia documentary on the Woomera Test Range, focusing on the specific Blue Streak missile launch that Solway Firth-type aliens allegedly caused to be aborted.

The program doesn't refer to the alien incident at all, but does mention the aborted launch, with a timeframe that closely matches the documents Jenny Randles uncovered. According to Randles there was a missing film canister of the launches for the week beginning Sunday, May 23, 1964.

http://i52.tinypic.com/ev4b6h.jpg
Since the above image of the maiden launch was available to be used by the documentary-makers (as opposed to having gone missing), and depicts the rocket 20 hours before it's scheduled blast-off, it suggests that this footage was from the canister after the one that has vanished and was taken sometime just following the appearance of the aliens on the launch pad, but before the decision was made to abort.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ywvivc.jpg
"Then we got the news that the rocket firing was to be delayed"...

http://i51.tinypic.com/27y7920.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2mgmsdf.jpg
June 5th, the date of the re-scheduled launch, minus those "3 days later", means the launch would have originally been scheduled to take place on June 1st or 2nd.

The missing film canister was said to be for the week May 23rd - May30th, so you can see that this all fits together nicely.

http://i52.tinypic.com/10z1ybk.jpg
"That first test went way off course..."

http://i54.tinypic.com/nvtpgp.jpg
"They blew it up and it came down four hundred miles short of the lakes..."

http://i51.tinypic.com/f2iptz.jpg
"It made our earlier efforts somewhat futile."

http://i52.tinypic.com/9avm9u.jpg
Why did the first rocket go so far off course? Alien intervention, perhaps? The official explanation for the failure was "uncontrollable oscillations during final phase of burn due to fuel sloshing in tanks" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Streak_(missile), but given that the launch was initially aborted due to interference with the rocket by these mysterious figures, there has to be a strong possibility they had something to do with the failure.

http://i52.tinypic.com/iy3qzr.jpg
Above is an overview of the launch site when Blue Streak 2 was (successfully) re-fired several months later.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2qwo0ms.jpg
Presumably, this is the actual area where the Solway Firth-type aliens were seen walking around.

Video: The Blue Streak Rocket launches in Australia (1964)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWBwE-FnOU&feature=related

[jamesc]

Here's some interesting screen captures from an ABC Australia documentary on the Woomera Test Range, focusing on the specific Blue Streak missile launch that Solway Firth-type aliens allegedly caused to be aborted.

The program doesn't refer to the alien incident at all, but does mention the aborted launch, with a timeframe that closely matches the documents Jenny Randles uncovered. According to Randles there was a missing film canister of the launches for the week beginning Sunday, May 23, 1964.

http://i52.tinypic.com/ev4b6h.jpg
Since the above image of the maiden launch was available to be used by the documentary-makers (as opposed to having gone missing), and depicts the rocket 20 hours before it's scheduled blast-off, it suggests that this footage was from the canister after the one that has vanished and was taken sometime just following the appearance of the aliens on the launch pad, but before the decision was made to abort.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ywvivc.jpg
"Then we got the news that the rocket firing was to be delayed"...

http://i51.tinypic.com/27y7920.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/2mgmsdf.jpg
June 5th, the date of the re-scheduled launch, minus those "3 days later", means the launch would have originally been scheduled to take place on June 1st or 2nd.

The missing film canister was said to be for the week May 23rd - May30th, so you can see that this all fits together nicely.

http://i52.tinypic.com/10z1ybk.jpg
"That first test went way off course..."

http://i54.tinypic.com/nvtpgp.jpg
"They blew it up and it came down four hundred miles short of the lakes..."

http://i51.tinypic.com/f2iptz.jpg
"It made our earlier efforts somewhat futile."

http://i52.tinypic.com/9avm9u.jpg
Why did the first rocket go so far off course? Alien intervention, perhaps? The official explanation for the failure was "uncontrollable oscillations during final phase of burn due to fuel sloshing in tanks" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Streak_(missile), but given that the launch was initially aborted due to interference with the rocket by these mysterious figures, there has to be a strong possibility they had something to do with the failure.

http://i52.tinypic.com/iy3qzr.jpg
Above is an overview of the launch site when Blue Streak 2 was (successfully) re-fired several months later.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2qwo0ms.jpg
Presumably, this is the specific area where the Solway Firth-type aliens were seen walking around.

Video: The Blue Streak Rocket launches in Australia (1964)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWBwE-FnOU&feature=related

Nicely put together post size_of_light, good info there ,i think Randles was on to something but then came up against a brick wall in the form of the missing canister;

[belch]

If you look at the second picture there are at least 3 shapeshifting alien/spacemen figures. There are 2 to the right of the rocket. 1 has its arm by its side and another arm on its fat belly as it looks to the ground. The 2nd is next to it and is levitating, these 2 entities seem to be wearing capes.
The 3rd is standing to the right of the searchlite. Its is humanoid but if you look it has a very small head and it is very tall. This is in turn talking to 2 smaller figures just to the right. These look like "Grey" aliens.

Im suprised you have not mentioned all the UFO's flying around that missile in the second to last picture aswell.

[size_of_light]

You should have held onto that inane and misplaced sarcasm a little while longer, belch.

I'm about to post some enhancements of how I think the face might look (:eek: ! )

[belch]

Are you denying that there are aliens and or shape shifting entities in picture 2 ?

And there is no "Face" on any of the pics. There is only Blurrrr!

[spaceman64]

http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/spaceman-home/woomera-blue-streak-incident/

I have done some new research on the Bluestreak Woomera connection to the Spaceman photo you all might find interesting.

Regards,

Are you denying that there are aliens and or shape shifting entities in picture 2 ?

And there is no "Face" on any of the pics. There is only Blurrrr!

[manxboz]

http://www.cumberlandspaceman.co.uk/spaceman-home/woomera-blue-streak-incident/

I have done some new research on the Bluestreak Woomera connection to the Spaceman photo you all might find interesting.

Regards,

Interesting read, however in my time of researching UFOlogy, there is one thing I must ask. Have you got any evidence to back up the claims made in the article? Like files? Documentation? Witness reports? Video/Photographs?

Call it picky, but Unfortunely in this day in age, many people have wrote things about 'cases' that have no evidence, it later turns out nothing ever happened.

[spaceman64]

Manxbox, purely based on online reputed sources (such as ELDO) which I have hyperlinked within the document.

Unfortunately, anything deeper would have required some kind of financial means of which I have none.:(

"Unfortunely in this day in age, many people have wrote things about 'cases' that have no evidence, it later turns out nothing ever happened."

I would agree with your above comment but from the point of view of Jim Templeton himself, who told the original tale about men on the launch pad based on a request for the photo from an austraiian newspaper contacting the Cumberland New editor and then Jim.

I cannot find any evidence of such a report from the point of view of the australian news - but I keep searching.

I think though I have at least shown that the mystery is either a huge coverup or more likely a bunch of half truths woven into a great tale. :confused:

Regards

[magenta_moonshadow]

If you look at the second picture there are at least 3 shapeshifting alien/spacemen figures. There are 2 to the right of the rocket. 1 has its arm by its side and another arm on its fat belly as it looks to the ground. The 2nd is next to it and is levitating, these 2 entities seem to be wearing capes.
The 3rd is standing to the right of the searchlite. Its is humanoid but if you look it has a very small head and it is very tall. This is in turn talking to 2 smaller figures just to the right. These look like "Grey" aliens.

Im suprised you have not mentioned all the UFO's flying around that missile in the second to last picture aswell.

Icke on a bike, you've got a fantastic imagination, mate!