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chattanova

12-11-2007, 04:05 PM

Famed NASA Astronaut confirms Extraterrestrials are here

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Space Shuttle Columbia during STS-80 took a crew of five astronauts into a 17 day, 15 hour and 54 minute mission around the earth, the longest flight in the history of this vehicle. During this lengthy flight a very strange event occurred that even had crewman Dr. Story Musgrave unable to explain what he observed from the shuttle windows.

A large disc shaped object appeared below the Columbia. The shuttle was approximately, 190 Nautical miles high.

The disc was first observed to miraculously appear from out of nowhere, flying through the clouds below and progressing from right to left as the astronauts stared in utter amazement. The outer rim of the craft appeared to be rotating counter-clockwise. It was very large (compared to common space junk and breakaway ice), approximately 50 to 150 feet in diameter.

Astronaut Dr. Story Musgrave, a Payload Specialist on the STS-80 Mission, was interviewed following the flight. As he viewed a videotape of the incident which showed lightning flashes in the atmosphere, the city lights of Denver, Colorado and other earthbound sights, he stated: "I don't know what it is. Whether it's a washer, debris, ice particles, I don't know. But it's characteristic of the thousands of things which I've seen. What is not so characteristic is it appears to come from no where. You would think that if it's facing the dark side or facing a side towards you which is not reflecting the sun, you would think that you would see something there. It's really impressive."

During an earlier interview, Dr. Musgrave stated he attempted to communicate with ET life forms during each of his six missions. He actually asked them to take him with them. Now that's an astronaut with a lot of courage. Dr. Musgrave retired after this flight from NASA. Since then he's been spreading his considered opinion that alien life exists. When Musgrave speaks of this, it's no great leap for one to assume he's admitting knowledge of alien life. As the final slide of a "Grey" ET was shown during a recent astronomy presentation by Dr. Musgrave, he made this surprising comment: "These guys are real... I guarantee it!" Dr. Musgrave does know the truth. This author guarantees it!

Consider that carefully. These are world renown scientists making statements almost beyond belief. Dr. von Braun and others of his stature have the courage to disclose "sensitive" information, but obviously the leaders of the USA and the world do not. If billions could find a way of coping with the overwhelming threat of atomic annihilation for half a century, it is reasonable to assume we can cope with the knowledge of these "Other Intelligence's" from the stars. We can cope with the fact they are visiting earth, and have been since the beginning of history. We must. Those still asleep must open their eyes. We Are Not Alone.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/11/09/01935.html

anoninnyc

12-11-2007, 05:13 PM

LARRY KING: Friday’s UFO Show . . . Bang or Bust?
Frank Warren

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Frank Warren
November 12, 2007

One of the things that Ufologists constantly yen for is “serious attention” by mainstream media in regards to the phenomenon; consequently when someone of Larry King’s stature and or recognition addresses the matter we Ufologists tend to get a little “giddy.”

It’s a rarity that the “subject of UFOs” makes it to a platform as that of King’s, or for that matter a “news” venue like “CNN.” Even more exceptional is to be in such an environment and be devoid of the usual background organ music, stage fog and the “lighthearted manner” in which the subject is broached.

All can agree that King is no stranger to the phenomenon and has delved into it for decades (although very sporadically); no doubt he has a “personal interest.” Moreover, most would agree that on average he gives Ufology a “fair shake”; however, after “his” last show back in July, as well as a recent airing by “respected” National Geographic, along with the debacle by Anderson Cooper on King’s same network, “CNN,” these exemplars give/gave rise to angst in regarding just how Larry would narrate Friday’s show concerning this very important issue.

On King’s last “UFO themed show” there seemed to be a predisposition on his part, reflected by at times his mildly sardonic attitude. Additionally, his meek administration as moderator of his own show precipitated unwanted squabbles, and confusion on the set. For those of us that pay attention, this was a big disappointment!

Worse yet was the show that his young colleague, “Anderson Cooper” hosted i.e., “Anderson Cooper 360°” on the “O’Hare Incident” of last year; although this involved an “unidentified aircraft” in the second busiest airport in the world, in a post 911 era, witnessed by dozens of airport employees, Cooper chose to “make light of it!”

Following “that debacle,” when one thought it couldn’t get any worse, National Geographic aired, “Under Cover History: The Real Roswell.” This production was filled with innuendo, off-putting adjectives and point blank misinformation and falsehoods! The very people (Ufologists) “used” in the show rebuffed it, and further stated that had they known what the end result would have been, they wouldn’t have participated!

This brings us to last Friday night’s show, "UFOS: Are They for Real?" Right away the very title of the show gives the knowledgeable researcher pause; even the “studious layperson” is aware of the fact that the term, “UFO” was borne by the “Air Force.”

For the ignorant the Air Force “officially” entered the term “UFO” into the military lexicon back in 1952 (although it was used often before that time). This replaced the more common term (then), “Flying Saucers” to describe what people were witnessing flying in U.S. airspace. That said, asking the question, “are UFOs real,” is nonsensical! It would be akin to asking the question “is the Empire State Building real?” Neither makes sense!

Another curio, given the caliber of Ufologists Larry has interviewed over the years, as well as his experience on the topic, certainly Larry knows better to pose such a “silly question”; one has to wonder why he would allow this perplexity to continue.

The important signification of Friday night’s show is that it was/is a slight prelude of what is to come tomorrow, Monday the 12th in Washington D.C.: According to a recent “press release”:

“. . . Experts from seven countries will divulge what they have discovered about UFOs at a November 12 panel discussion moderated by former Arizona Governor Fife Symington (R) at the National Press Club.

. . . This panel consists of some of the most qualified people in the world with direct experience in dealing with this issue, and they will bring incredible, irrefutable evidence, some never presented before . . ..

. . . The group, using previously classified documents, will discuss many well-documented cases, including two investigated by the US government . . ..

Readers may remember a similar event produced by the controversial, “Steven Greer.” Although lines have been drawn in the “Ufological sand” in regards to Greer himself, most applaud his efforts vis-à-vis “his” press conference back in 2001. As it will be tomorrow, Greer assembled a group of very “credible, high caliber witnesses” who shared some very mind-blowing information. Moreover, that group declared they would give “every detail” to members of Congress, given that they would not be prosecuted for violating any security oaths.

Five of the participants in tomorrow’s press conference appeared on Larry’s show Friday night, they included:

* James Fox – Documentary Film Producer (UFOs) and co-producer of tomorrow’s event.

* Fife Symington – The former governor of Arizona and witness to the huge “V-shaped craft” seen in the western US in 1997.

* Colonel Chuck Halt – The former deputy base commander of Bentwaters Woodbridge, a U.S. military base in Suffolk, England and direct eyewitness to the “UFO encounter at Rendlesham Forest.

* Jim Pennison – Retired Woodbridge security supervisor who at Bentwaters actually saw and touched said craft on the ground.

* Nick Pope – Former government official for the British Ministry of Defence (MoD), who ran the British government's UFO project.

* John Callahan – Former division chief of accidents and investigations branch of the FAA in Washington.

Admittedly, in the aftermath of Larry’s previous show on UFOs, even though this episode had very competent guests appearing, I held my breath, and expected the worst! Suffice it to say the worst didn’t come. This was by no means a “homerun for Ufology”; however, it was certainly a step-up from his last (Larry’s) effort.

Most definitely the declarations from the afore mentioned panel was the highlight of the show. In particular the statements of “Halt & Pennison,” regarding the “Rendlesham Incident,” as well as former FAA division chief, “John Callahan’s” report on the Japanese 747 being pursued by a UFO.

One would think that even from the layperson’s perspective, that these “credentialed veterans” presented their respective declarations with great resolve and clarity.

Having “Nick Pope” a former “insider” if you will, concur with the thesis presented by Halt & Pennison certainly gives supplementary plausibility for the less informed. Nick literally investigated the UFO phenomenon for the “British Ministry of Defence.”

During the segues there were snippets of UFO photographs, videos, interviews etc.; although some had nothing to do with the subject, and a few might have been detrimental to serious research, in toto it was palatable.

One thing I noticed, and I might add was a pleasant surprise: not once was there the video of the “flare drop” associated with what has erroneously been dubbed, “The Phoenix Lights.” There was a snippet of Dr. Lynne’s “lights” but the 10:30 flare drop was not aired—thanks Larry!

Regrettably, but not surprisingly, Larry and his producers were not neglectful in regards to the “fringe element” of his audience; this was evident by including actress, author, spiritualist, and for lack of a better term, all around paranormalist, “Shirley MacLaine.” Now to be clear, I have nothing against “Shirley MacLaine; I respect her opinions, and admire her chutzpah! That said, she was a “square peg” for a “round hole” in this instance.

From the producer’s standpoint, they were doing a show about UFOs, she’s been in the forefront lately regarding her statements in her book concerning Kucinich’s UFO sighting, and then the interjection of that into the last democratic debate. She is controversial, etc., I get “why she was on”; however, this certainly didn’t help the Ufological cause, as we know the ignorant already have to contend with the stigmas surrounding the phenomenon by itself, much less the added controversy MacLaine brings to the table.

Since the premise of the show was, “UFOS: Are They for Real?” then of course Larry and his producers wouldn’t leave out “the opposing view,” or in this instance the “comedic segment of the show.

When Larry first uttered debunker “James McGaha’s name, I cringed! Then I laughed as I caught myself thinking, “where’s Michael Shermer” when you need him? Although Shermer spews the same flapdoodle as McGaha, his delivery is much more polished, and he is a likable sort; McGaha you just feel sorry for.

Initially, I was little perturbed that McGaha would be given the same consideration as these high caliber witnesses; however, as has always been the case with McGaha, he is his own worst enemy! In the aftermath I just found it improbable that any one rational individual would lend him credence.

Unfortunately, for those who are truly interested in the subject of UFOs, yet remain skeptical, and would have liked to have had intelligent questions and or debate for the witnesses, McGaha wasn’t their man! He failed miserably!

After McGaha’s display Friday night, one can envision even the most hardcore of Pyrrhonist’s putting distance between he and themselves.

All and all I gave the show a C+. It certainly went past my expectations; however, rendered no positive surprises.

The value of the show is that of the “small window it provided” for tomorrow’s event. This deed taken on by “James Fox” and Leslie Kean” is what should be applauded!

This effort by them, as well as the witnesses who join them to share their respective UFO experiences, and their quest to get the government’s attention in regards to the seriousness of the UFO phenomenon is a cause that has been championed by those who have preceded them for the last 60 years!

It is uplifting to know that this “cause,” i.e., the pursuit for “disclosure of the truth” is still alive in 2007!

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=42700

this stuff is ALL OVER the news....... and that presidential candidate from former arizona governor symington...................

question is why now? what is the agenda?

kblood

12-11-2007, 05:45 PM

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=42700

this stuff is ALL OVER the news....... and that presidential candidate from former arizona governor symington...................

question is why now? what is the agenda?

The why now indeed. I have read something about faking an alien invasion...? Not sure if that was guessing by those who wrote it. Anyone who can confirm is faking an alien invasion was part of the agenda?

As far as I know, there is proof about the existance of aliens near, around and maybe in Earth for at least the last 50 years. Especially the last 20 years I guess. Lots of footage from space with seemingly lots of UFOs all over, and astronauts even telling other astronauts not to worry about them.

kasalt

12-11-2007, 06:54 PM

Famed NASA Astronaut confirms Extraterrestrials are here

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/5/11/12/f_SMusgravem_dbc0ca8.jpg

I don't know...That seems to conflict with what Musgrave says on his own website:

http://www.spacestory.com/extraterrestrial.htm

Have you seen or do you believe in the existence of UFOs or other signs of intelligent extraterrestrial life?

I believe, and scientifically I am certain, that there are endless other living forms out there, including intelligent sentient beings. With the size of the Universe that we have, the billions of galaxies, the distances and scales, and the billions of years that things have been around, of course there are other living forms out there, and of course there are other intelligent forms. It is anthrocentric thinking to believe that we are the only ones.

In terms of personally seeing any kind of evidence, I have seen glorious things out there, but I have never seen anything which I consider having the signature of life or an intelligent being. I see little pieces of ice, sparklets, that dance out there and go away from you as they rotate in the sunlight in linear fashion. They turn on and off like little fireflies in space. I also have seen what I call "Story's Snake" out there. I do not know how large this object is because I do not know how far away it was, but twice I have seen it. It has internal motions, almost like a very flexible rubber hose, but you can see it just swimming out there like an eel. This is all part of the debris the shuttle puts off as soon as the main engines shutdown. Sometimes, you also see meteorites flying under you, the falling stars, they do not come in above, they come underneath you between the shuttle and Earth. There are all kinds of glorious light shows and 'Fourth of July's' out there, but I have never, myself, seen anything which had the signature of life. Although, as I have said, I know there are entire universes of living forms out there.

eternal_spirit

12-11-2007, 07:02 PM

The why now indeed. I have read something about faking an alien invasion...? Not sure if that was guessing by those who wrote it. Anyone who can confirm is faking an alien invasion was part of the agenda?

......................

Ask yourself why there are so many films, books and web sites promoted, paid for by the PTB It's "Predictive programming" They want us to accept the aliens into our reality by programming our minds. Right back to HG Wells War of the Worlds.

If they can some how pull off a fake, staged alien invasion...They can bring in Martial Law and other laws which apply to times of War, less freedom for the people etc. If they can't get us to fight each other anymore, they need to create another enemy ie: ALIENS. It's another "Problem reaction solution".

Anders Lindman

12-11-2007, 07:11 PM

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chattanova

12-11-2007, 07:36 PM

I don't know...That seems to conflict with what Musgrave says on his own website:

http://www.spacestory.com/extraterrestrial.htm

Hmm.. that was weird

Anders Lindman

12-11-2007, 07:57 PM

A panel discussion at the National Press Club focuses on close encounters with UFOs. Participants include pilots and former U.S. military personnel.

Short video:

http://www.kpho.com//video/14573588/index.html

chattanova

12-11-2007, 08:02 PM

Post 1 and 25 in this thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7546 contains the space serpents (mentioned by Dr. Story Musgrave) and all the other anomalies captured on video from the shuttle-missions.

umbrex

12-11-2007, 08:27 PM

The why now indeed. I have read something about faking an alien invasion...? Not sure if that was guessing by those who wrote it. Anyone who can confirm is faking an alien invasion was part of the agenda?

As far as I know, there is proof about the existance of aliens near, around and maybe in Earth for at least the last 50 years. Especially the last 20 years I guess. Lots of footage from space with seemingly lots of UFOs all over, and astronauts even telling other astronauts not to worry about them.

if the stuff about the fake alien invasion is for real, then it was supposed to happen around 2012 where the gates of change and possibility opens..

..around 2001 4 trillion dollars from the US defense budget went missing and it has never been recovered, allegedly the purpose of these funds is to pay for the fake invasion. The authorities trying to solve the matter got obstructed on sept. 11 by a cruise missile hitting their office in the pentagon. Just a weird coincidense eh ? Supposedly they are advancing the agenda and are working full steam since they are exposed . ..that is - if it's real :P

The guidelines are these if it happens: resist the first wave of "fake" aliens and greet the 2nd (who are benevolent and will help us)

chattanova

12-11-2007, 08:32 PM

if the stuff about the fake alien invasion is for real, then it was supposed to happen around 2012 where the gates of change and possibility opens..

..around 2001 4 trillion dollars from the US defense budget went missing and it has never been recovered, allegedly the purpose of these funds is to pay for the fake invasion. The authorities trying to solve the matter got obstructed on sept. 11 by a cruise missile hitting their office in the pentagon.
Supposedly they are advancing the agenda and are working full steam since they are exposed . ..that is - if it's real :P

Huh :eek: Interesting umbrex.

Well there seem to be something in the air.. I never even thought of a fake invasion but all this can really make you wonder..

It just seems so hard way for them to do it. If they want to get rid of us they could just put SARS in our drinking water and blame the terrorist as usual...

umbrex

12-11-2007, 08:37 PM

well, as i understand they have something cataclysmic cooking; rapturish - and i must say, a fake invasion would be a darn good argument for a united planet and subsequent depopultion and introduction of a one world government..

..come to think about it, thats probably the fastest, cheapest and most efficient way of doing it :O

graflok

12-11-2007, 09:01 PM

Anyway you look at it, the brainwashed masses are in for some surprises. :D

anoninnyc

12-11-2007, 10:02 PM

chattanova

13-11-2007, 02:38 PM

chattanova

13-11-2007, 04:28 PM

Former pilots and officials call for new U.S. UFO probe

REUTERS: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1248419720071112

There is definitly something going on!

chattanova

13-11-2007, 04:32 PM

Space Defense Program Gets Extra Funding

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/11/AR2007111101173.html

chattanova

13-11-2007, 04:34 PM

Nasa told to solve 'UFO crash' X-File

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0%2C%2C2209114%2C00.html

monkfish

13-11-2007, 04:57 PM

Seems to me that when you now here a report about UFOS,its not done with the half smile (and now for the fun item) kind of way,it seems like its been passed down from the powers that be to make all this a bit more than just a joke item with a cartoon green man in the background.

anoninnyc

13-11-2007, 06:25 PM

mynameis

13-11-2007, 06:30 PM

steevo

13-11-2007, 07:01 PM

I believe in UFO's as much as the next bloke but, with all this talk of UFO's in the MAINSTREAM MEDIA it makes me wonder if they are trying to shape (is "shape" the right word ?) our thinking away from other things. Surely they wouldnt do that :eek: :D

Dont get me wrong, I am gonna keep an open mind on it all.

chattanova

13-11-2007, 07:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqb3FQQPzE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp128f4Jzic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_gys2H5B-8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE0A2Z9P0GI

Thanks anders, saw it now.
Don't know what to make out of this but they had some amazing stories to tell.

steevo

13-11-2007, 08:05 PM

If it was accepted, mainstream , that there were UFO's, my god, the sheeple would definitely have something to talk about then, it would be the biggest news story ever. Much bigger than 911, 7/7, Iraq, NWO, Apsaratame, Skull and Bones etc

I'm not a skeptic of UFO's, it's just the mainstream reporting of it like Larry King with the former governor of Arizona for gods sake lol

anoninnyc

13-11-2007, 10:33 PM

I'm not a skeptic of UFO's, it's just the mainstream reporting of it like Larry King with the former governor of Arizona for gods sake lol

that is exactly what i am thinking. logically and statistically i am sure ufos and aliens exist. what is perplexing is why this is being reported in the mainstream media right now, in a more serious fashion than the usual mockery. my guess is that umbrex is correct and if there was an alien invasion or the masses thought there was..... then presto.... nwo........ one world government, etc. very easy to pull off.

steevo

13-11-2007, 11:52 PM

that is exactly what i am thinking. logically and statistically i am sure ufos and aliens exist. what is perplexing is why this is being reported in the mainstream media right now, in a more serious fashion than the usual mockery. my guess is that umbrex is correct and if there was an alien invasion or the masses thought there was..... then presto.... nwo........ one world government, etc. very easy to pull off.

Yeah I see what you mean anoninnyc, the masses will be screaming for a one world government to fight the the evil tripods. Problem Reaction Solution.

monkfish

14-11-2007, 12:38 AM

What is it with this film ET? This happend on a private screening of et in the whitehouse on its release,with speilberg,ron Ragen and his cronies in a room.
After the film,Ronald was reported to have said (by spielberg)"there is only 3 people in this room who know how true this is"
Duh..better make that 4 now ron

chattanova

14-11-2007, 05:04 PM

CNN Report On UFO Disclosure Panel In DC

VIDEO http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2007/11/13/tuchman.ufo.panel.cnn?iref%3Dvideosearch

kweli

14-11-2007, 05:11 PM

For what it's worth, I too think they're heading towards presenting us with a fake alien invasion. :eek:

gee1

14-11-2007, 06:42 PM

Hi everyone it's my first post but felt I would share this with you as it seems quite fitting..

http://www.nancyredstar.com/wmd/Anti_Satellite.htm

:)

quelyn

14-11-2007, 06:51 PM

chattanova

16-11-2007, 02:58 PM

Carol Rosin - Disclosure Project (nederlands ondertiteld)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=CaTgOSHbBEI

ashyr

16-11-2007, 03:24 PM

well its more of a real MYTH they can go from covert to overt and back really easily

wouldnt put it down to them just trying that shit on 2012 so ppl think they are gods lol .

hah the aliens will suggest we get rfid.
what a brilliant idea. also they shows us how to open a tin of beans with a spoon just before leaving us with that!!..

hagbard_celine

17-11-2007, 12:57 PM

Carol Rosin - Disclosure Project (nederlands ondertiteld)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=CaTgOSHbBEI

This lady was a close confidant of Wernher von Braun, the former SS officer who desinged the craft that took people to the moon (supposedly!). Von Braun told her about the proposed fake alien invasion, after the fear of the terrosist threat was exhausted. We should take her information very seriously, in my view.

blue

19-11-2007, 04:34 AM

hagbard_celine

21-11-2007, 03:38 PM

this movie "independence day" has being aired so frequently on television since Aug 2007, almost once in a month and many similar themed movies are being airing more frequently...the mainstream is warming up to program us once again

Looks like it.

As for Independance Day bing ashown repeatedly.:p It's such an atrocious film that I consider that a form of tirture!