Rheumatoid Arthritis

[lottie]

Hey Guys, I have a friend who has rheumatoid arthritis has anyone got any knowledge of natural/herbal methods/remedies, its especially bad at the moment with the cold closing in and he wants to try natural medicine....

I have no idea really as its not something ive looked into but i'd apreciate any idea's or advice!

Cheers!

:)

[startzpe]

Hi,

Just did a search in rheumatoid arthritis, I have looked at it before because I believe David Icke has the same condition.

I'm just going to supply clips from the links I pulled up, but from what I believe
rheumatoid arthritis is caused by some sort of microbe. The flareup are the immune system trying to combat it.

Collodial gold seems to be effective for pain reduction (not sure how much that stuff costs though)

I will continue to state that the Beck Protocol is probably the answer (see my other threads) as it will take out any viral/germ/microbal infections etc.

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Here's some links

Colloidal gold has been successfully used as a therapy for rheumatoid arthritis [10][11]. In a related study[12], the implantation of gold beads near arthritic hip joints in dogs has been found to relieve pain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_gold


The cause of RA is still unknown to this day, but has long been suspected to be infectious. It could be due to food allergies or external organisms. Mycoplasma, Erysipelothrix, Epstein-Barr virus, parvovirus B19 and rubella have been suspected but never supported in epidemiological studies. As in other autoimmune diseases, the "mistaken identity" theory suggests that an offending organism causes an immune response that leaves behind antibodies that are specific to that organism. The antibodies are not specific enough, though. They begin an immune attack against, in this case, the synovium, because some molecule in the synovium "looks like" a molecule on the offending organism that created the initial immune reaction - this phenomenon is called molecular mimicry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheumatoid_arthritis

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The first thing you should know is that M.S. and Rheumatoid Arthritis are closely related. While they manifest themselves in different places of the body, and in different ways, there are many similarities between the two diseases.

This means that it is primarily an autoimmune disease. Virtually all autoimmune diseases are caused by microbes getting into places the immune system cannot kill them. The attempt of the immune system to kill the microbes is what causes the inflammation.

In some cases R.A. is caused by a chemical the patients was exposed to over time, but generally it is a microbe caused disease (e.g. from vaccinations).

A Dr. Brown treated about 10,000 R.A. patients with antibiotics, and with excellent success. Dr. Brown claimed R.A. was caused by an infection. This is powerful evidence that a microbe is almost always involved.

http://www.cancertutor.com/Other03/MS.html

The Bob Beck Protocol, especially the magnetic pulser (microbes hide in myelin sheath), is the best way on earth to get rid of microbes in a person's body. Use the entire Bob Beck Protocol, but when you use the Magnetic Pulser point it at the brain quite a bit. Note that you will need to take some form of chelation (e.g. zeolites, EDTA Chelation by I.V., Vitamin C, etc.) in case some mercury comes out of your teeth (from dental amalgam) while pointing the magnetic pulser at the teeth. See this article:

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ntroduction

The Bob Beck Protocol started out as an electromedicine treatment for AIDS / HIV, however, it has turned out to be a superb cancer treatment.

There is certainly no other electromedicine treatment for cancer that is anywhere near as effective as the Bob Beck Protocol. It is far better than any Rife Machine, far better than any Multi-Wave Oscillator (MWO), far better than anything Hulda Clark has out, and so on.

The reason the Bob Beck Protocol is so absolutely superior to other electromedicine treatments is that it is the direct result of an incredible discovery in medicine.

Two medical doctors, Dr. Kaali and Dr. Lyman, discovered, in 1990, that a small electric current could disable microbes from being able to multiply, thus rendering them harmless. It was, in fact, the greatest medical discovery in the history of medicine because virtually all diseases are caused by, or enhanced by, a microbe. Their discovery was a cure for almost every disease known to mankind.

But unlike the discoveries of Dr. Royal Rife; the Dr. Kaali and Dr. Lyman discoveries have not been lost to science. In fact, details of their discovery are very, very well preserved and protected.

However, even though the technology is very well documented, orthodox medicine is not interested in their discovery. Orthodox medicine is interested in "treatments," not "cures," because "treating" a person is far, far more profitable than "curing" them. As Dr. Bob Beck used to say: "a patient cured is a customer lost."

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/BobBeck.html

[lottie]

Thanks startzpe!! I shall have a good old read!! looks very interesting!! :)

[nuit]

my son suffers a connective tissue disorder/ muscle wasting disease which is actually extremely rare but is likened to rheumatoid arthritus/ muscular dystrophy and i found that half hour physio in am and half hour pm plus 5ml of folic acid a week plus massaging the limbs for circulation did him good ( well it must of cause they told me he would probably not walk again, and he is on the move constantly ) also a stiff lesson in "not wallowing in pity" although sounds harsh and callous is also the best therapy there is

[nuit]

may also want to get them to ask there doctor about a course of methotrexate and a short period of prednisolone for the winter months

[whale]

http://www.whale.to/w/arthritis.html

could be just wheat allergy

the croft zapper claims to cure it http://www.whale.to/a/zapper_q.html

"Last year a patient came to me with both arms paralyzed. Three months before he had, acute rheumatism--a disease I have treated scores of cases of, and never failed to cure within two weeks--for which his physician prescribed mercury, antimony, colchicum, and potassium hydroxide. The drugs had cured the rheumatism, but ruined the patient. And what do you suppose his physician proposed to "try" next? Why, strychnine, of course!"---Dr Trall, 1862.

[fransetter]

RA is an auto-immune disease. You may fiind this of interested. Originally posted on davidicke.com I have found it exceptionally interesting for treating my own auto-immune disease.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2371201605571520281&q=Dr+Lorraine+Day&total=17&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Since watching this video I have become a raw eater and have added superfoods to my diet such as goji berries, Maca and cacao.

I have subsequently been in contact with other people suffering the same condition as I, and other AI diseases, who have reversed their conditions after several years. I am greatly encouraged to continue on.

There is also evidence that raw foods contain natural anti-inflammatory agents which are far more powerful that those which are prescribed.

Other interesting video's

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-568252164579596678&q=how+to+supercharge+your+immune+system&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8841234327210711547

[lottie]

THANKYOU fransetter!!!

very interesting indeed i shall pass the links on to my friend....

Thanks also to everyone who's shared advice my friend will appreciate this very much!! :)

[sunyatta60]

Introducing a new, all-natural pain-relief treatment
If you suffer pain in your knees, foot, heels, ankle and toe joints... or your neck, back, spine, shoulders, hip, elbows, wrists and finger and thumb joints.... then check out this website:

Biolamps

http://www.richlifeletter.co.uk/biolamps/

As you'll see, people are raving about a new pain relief treatment from China. It works by filtering heat through clay, directly into painful areas of your body.

OK, I admit. This might sound weird. It did to me when I first started looking into this. So let me tell you the story behind it....

The weird tale of the ceramic factory
Back in 1970, a weird phenomenon was noticed at an old ceramic factory in rural China.

The conditions were pretty bad. Workers would have to toil in cold mud all day. This worried the bosses, as they didn't want their work force struck down by arthritis and other ailments.

When they began to investigate the workers' health they discovered that there was not a single case of arthritis.

I don't know what the Chinese for 'huh?' is, but they probably said it.

Some scientists came in to have a look. They discovered that there was a strong electromagnetic reading in the far-infrared spectrum coming from the kiln they used to fire the ceramics.

Analysis showed the clay was made up of 33 minerals. These happened to correspond with 33 essential minerals in the human body.

When heated enough, these would radiate infrared energy that reduced pain symptoms.

By 1979, there was an entire society devoted to finding out more about the effects of "mineral infrared therapy."

Eventually a group of scientists headed by Dr. Gou Wenbin at the Chinese Medicine Institute in Chongqing invented what would become the Biolamp.

Now here's the science bit...
The Biolamp looks like any ordinary lamp. It's that easy to use. But it contains a plate coated with a 33 minerals, including Calcium and Iron.

You switch on the lamp and direct it at the affected area. A timer switches the lamp off after the right amount of heat treatment.

The warmth of the lamp alone can boost the circulation through the small blood vessels... increase the extensibility of collagen tissues... decrease joint stiffness... relieve pain and muscle spasms.

And of course, there's this strange mineral infrared affect that the Chinese scientists have been talking about.

Now, as you know, I'm an old sceptic....

Although interesting, I don't rely on all the claims made about a new innovation. I prefer to see how real people respond to it.

So if you're interested in this, then here's what suggest...

Only pay for it... IF IT WORKS FOR YOU!
The company that sells the Biolamp into the UK are offering a really 4-week RISK-FREE trial.

You can order it and give it a go in your own home without paying them a penny for it. If you don't enjoy proven pain relief, you can send it back and they won't take any money off you!

In short, you only have to pay for the Biolamp after you've tested it and seen if it really works.

If you're interested, I STRONGLY recommend you take up this trial. As I always say, there's nothing like actually experiencing a new pain relief treatment first before you part with your cash.

If it eases your pain, you'll be happy to go ahead pay for it. And if it doesn't do it for you, then you've lost nothing!

Go to this site and you'll see a phone number. The trial offer is for a limited period, so call them today and give it a go:

Biolamps

And... if I can ask a big favour... if you get the chance, email me and let me know how the treatment worked for you.

Mailto: ray@goodlilfeletter.co.uk

As you know, the best researchers are my Good Life readers. And I love getting your tips and feedback.

Although I can't offer personal health advice, or promise a response to individual emails, I'm happy to publish some of the best tips I'm sent.

Like this one...

Try nettle and honey tea for tiredness and digestive problems
A reader emailed me to say:

Some time ago, a friend told me about the de-toxicant effect of nettle tea, so my wife and I started buying the boxed tea bags from the local herbalist.

However, there did not seem to be much of a life changing reaction. We sent off to Baldwin's for a trial packet of the dried leaves and made decoctions for a while as per the directions and drank it two or three times a day but did not like the taste. So we stopped taking it.

One of your earlier articles about the beneficial effects of honey gave me an idea and so now, each morning before we eat or drink anything else, we take a cup of nettle tea with a teaspoonful of honey.

The effect has been startling... we no longer suffer from intermittent constipation and chronic tiredness during the day.

Good to hear my research has come in useful!

Ray Collins

[whitenight639]

guys check out my website, I sell stuff for arthritus, however I am not sure how effective glucosamine and cholderin is but im sure that aloe would definetly help, it has 19 of 20 essential amino acids and 7 of the 8 our body cant make, its great stuff.

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[lottie]

Cool- cheers wn, i shall!! :)

[johnpeters]

I read that organic non homogenized coconut oil is good and also a product called Myristin.

Apparantly ultrasound is good too as it breaks down the crystals around the joint. I purchase a Body Ultra untrasound unit for £110. Unfortunately the supplier was killed at last years Probe Conference.

The Body Ultra is wound to a frequency which matches the body's own healing frequency. You can still get them as the supplier's wife has continued the business.

Call 01573 225 209

Ask for Jean and say you saw a post on the David Icke Forum.

[azal777]

Greetings

Its been a long time since I visited back on here, think even the domain has changed but still recognise some old posters.

Anyway, on this subject I can be of some help having experienced, suffered and healed from rhumatoid arthritis .

I went through the mill I can tell you and from that point my life changed, it was either suffer and continue to suffer or research, understand what I was reading and survive.

before I reveal how I did please appreciate the fact that there are many routes to heal this problem but each one of us may require a different path of herbs etc as each of us have a differering blood group, allergies etc.

My path

I first started taking aloe vera drink, this reduced my swelling down to more comfortable levels, along with this 2 oz on an empty tummy first thing in the morning and 2oz last thing at night I also began to take nascent oxygen. This combination worked.........





Until stopped taking them that is.....then thesymptoms came back. So, first I can suggest this combination if you wish to reduce swelling to a manageable level if you wish to stay away from pharma drugs, sadly, though its wasn' t the cure.

So I sought pprofessional advice and worked with a kinesiologist. This art is pure brilliance for those that have never tried it.

She spotted straight away that the culprit was twofold

1) Leaky gut syndrome - A porous gut lining was allowing molecules to pass intot the blood stream, antibodies produced by me started fighting antibodies from the porous foods passing in

2) As someone else pointed out - bacterial infection that hadn't been sufficiently killed off by anti-biotics.

Knowing the cause made the cure much easier though patience was needed.

How I got rid of it was like this

healing of the gut lining (still ongoing by the way) - Essential fatty Acids used for this - anti 0inflammatory but not well tolerated by me so healing this is slow going
Increeasing healthy gut bacteria - Probiotics
Homepathic bacteria drops - BAC Forte as is known from New vistas, Ireland, drop them under your tongue, infection gone within a month.
Tree remedies and/or Bach flower remedies - remember your healing mind/body and spirit, it may not seem that way but be assured most of us require attention to this triad at differing times.

My programme was more detailed than this because I also suffer from ulcertaive colitis but my friends were shellshocked that I made a complete and full recovery.

After all rhumatoid arthritis is incurable right......


Don't think so from my experience

Mark

[arrowwind]

Greetings
My path

I first started taking aloe vera drink, this reduced my swelling down to more comfortable levels, along with this 2 oz on an empty tummy first thing in the morning and 2oz last thing at night I also began to take nascent oxygen. This combination worked.........

Mark

Mark can you please explain to me what nascent oxygen is? What was the main ingredient in the product you used?
Thanks

[azal777]

Hiya

nascent means 'new', the idea with this type of therapy is to create a slightly new combination of water by charging it to even up the 'charge' of the water.

basically what this means is that it helps to pair up with 'free radicals' which are missing a 'charge' (can't remeber if positive or negatives now but you get the idea I think).

Therefore the introduction of extra charged nascent water pairs up with the missing charged free radicals to create a balanced charge which dosn't lead to any oxidatiion issues. Nacent oxygen water is basically an anti oxidant, which you can get from consuming vitamin E laden foods so its not essential that you take this type of water.

However, the combination did work for me and it helped keep down inflammation to a nice level, though as I said i my post it certainly wasn't curative.

Hope this helps

Mark:)

[arrowwind]

Thanks Mark.

This forum had detailed info on treating RA and leaky gut.

www.HealthSalon.org

[2tuff]

I'm sorry to tell you all but your wrong in this thread and you'll be running around like a gerbal in a cage all day long. The Zapper does nothing of the sort and cannot ever get rid of this problem or most problems in reality. I have zappers, I have the Terminator but it never gets used as it's all $$$ gimmicks. So you think Raw foods is the answer? Good luck, anyone who's got this condition and goes this route is in for trouble. Supplements unless totally herbal, simply poison the body and create even more havok. Most supplements ingredients and their wearabouts would scare the hell out of you. Again another great useless money spinner.

The problems with the raw food is that food is a big part of the problem to start with. If you go putting in the foods which are really hammering you then if their raw you're in for a bad time.

We need to really address one area more than anywhere first off and this is the Stomach/Gut. This is the true source of the problem. The person MUST get to a chiropacter and have the MID THORACIC region realigned over five sessions. The chiro will adjust the whole spine, pelvis, shoulder and neck region if their any good. Under no circumstances should the Chiro adjust the C1 as he could rupture a spinal cord and well you'll know what will happen then. This is because they may be inflammed from the condition and get caught. Once this mid-thoracic is aligned then the electrical impulses from the spine will get to the stomach region and start it healing and keep healing/protection. Right now it's not getting these.

So people can you tell me how a Zapper, Supplements or any other junk could do the above and adjust a bone? Only certain herb combinations can actually adjust bones etc and this has to be forementations daily and more. So please be wise.

He should address the stomach with Slippery Elm gruel daily 30 minutes before any food. This will create a barrier and also increase healing of the region. In addition he can mix in some Marshmellow Root and have an even increased healing time. But alas he MUST address the back. By the way does he sit a lot? Does he hunchey type back and never sit straight? Even if you do not see this, his back will still need addressing.

He should address the complete bowel then liver/blood. He should stick to normal foods and no crazy diets. To seriously increase healing once the back's corrected then theres the Water Fast which is the ultimate stomach healer. But you must know everything about the subject in depth before rushing into it. Again the back is the key.

Heres some real information for you:

Joint
Arthritis/Rheumatism Formula Usages:

Here is a combination of herbs that helps promote detoxification; help act as a solvent for the accepted but not assimilated calcium deposits; herbs that help promote the relief of pain; herbs rich in new acceptable organic calcium that can be assimilated and useful; herbs that kill fungus and infection and that have the ability to help promote wonderful relief. Historically speaking this relief is not immediate because here is a long rebuilding job--gradual relief can come, and full healing, if the program is followed faithfully:

Dosages:

A cup two or three times a day (two capsules in Brigham tea or steam-distilled water).
Use as a hot fomentation over extremely painful or crippled areas (in addition to this formula), formula called bone, flesh and cartilage Complete Tissue & Bone.
Also drink 1 or 2 quarts of kidney bean pod tea daily. In addition for relief, an external application of formula Antiseptic Tincture X-Ceptic is recommended. Even though one uses these aids yet continues on with improper diet, one may get some help but not as much as going all the way. Remember the teachings for years have been--"No healing in this condition." We are giving people hope if they will follow through with these formulas and the mucusless diet

Ingredients:

hydrangea root
Brigham herb
yucca
chaparral
black walnut
lobelia
burdock root
sarsaparilla
wild lettuce
valerian
wormwood
cayenne
black cohosh

[masonfree party]

2tuff...what do you think of horsetail for treating this condition or osteoporosis?its high in silica: Because of its content of silica, this plant is recommended when it is necessary for the body to repair bony tissues that are in not well condition, as a result of some traumatism or because of their own corporal decalcification. Silica helps to fix calcium, so that the body can store more quantity of this mineral and it is able to form stronger bones or tendons.

[madthumbs]

Zapper is nonsense. Notice 2tuff falls for nonsense and actually bought a few. Look at his older posts on his site and see him pimping them with no actual testimonies. (He was involved in pimping this scam). If you really want to play around with frequencies, do it free with freqgen.

Raw vs Cooked (http://www.opposingdigits.com/rawvscooked/)

- Cooking isn't so bad, and can be good in some cases. This doesn't apply to overcooked (cafeteria / buffet type food), or processed / unfresh foods.

The person MUST get to a chiropacter

The joke of the medical industry. Chiropractors have to take more schooling than Surgeons and other doctors so they can be seen as credible. Do they teach you how to balance your antagonist muscles so your posture will improve and your back will fix itself? (A good personal fitness trainer may be better and cheaper).

Supplements will most likely contain things that cause the disease symptoms to begin with. Small example: Silicon Induced Contracture Syndrome (http://www.opposingdigits.com/sics/) -thanks to Ivan Fraser: http://www.ivanfraser.com/ for the information that helped me recover.

its high in silica

See the article linked just above. Silica / Silicon Diooxide / Silicon (breast implants - so called auto-immune disease)

Silica helps to fix calcium

Calcium is over hyped. People can get too much especially when taken with Vitamin D. Why would they over hype calcium? It's the most abundant mineral (cheapest to produce like soy and canola).

I'd be very wary of 2tuff's cleanses / fasts / witch's brew. I've seen enough good people report after taking his wacky advice on how they felt they were dying, got worse, etc. Of course 2tuff shrugs blame and accuses them for not doing enough research instead of accepting he was wrong. I'm surprised he didn't bring up his panacea of drinking piss. -He has a whole forum dedicated to it.

horsetail for treating this condition or osteoporosis

Can they prove a germ/ organism /etc causes osteoporosis? Isn't Osteoporosis a condition where our bodies draw minerals from our bones to neutralize blood acid? -Look into alkalizing foods, and avoid distilled water.

Try assessing the diet. What are they getting too much or to little of? Is it worth even bothering? If you told them to simply stop drinking soda (if that's the case), or stop popping pills, would they do it? Many people prefer to stay sick, unless they can get a cure in a pill. You'd be surprised what disease conditions additives in foods (http://www.opposingdigits.com/additives/) can cause.

[greenleaf]

Has anyone tried reflexology... no drugs
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1. Top of Head
2. Sinuses
3. Pituitary Gland
4. Temporal Area
5. Neck, Cervical
6. Upper Lymph Area
7. Parathyroid Gland
8. Ears
9. Eyes
10. Thyroid Glands
11. Shoulder
12. Lungs and Bronchi
13. Heart Area
14. Heart
15. Spine, Vertebra
16. Pancreas
17. Solar Plexus
18. Stomach & Duodenum
19. Liver
20. Spleen
21. Spleenic Fixture
22. Gall Bladder
23. Adrenal Glands
24. Hepatic Flexure
25. Kidneys
26. Transverse Colon
27. Waist
28. Ureters
29. Ascending Colon
30. Descending Colon
31. Lumbar
32. Small Intestines
33. Sacral
34. Bladder
35. Ileo-Caecal Valve
36. Appendix
37. Sigmoid Flexure
38. Hip & Lower Back
39. Coccyx
40. Sciatic Area
41. Rectum
42. Uterus
43. Prostate
44. Breast
45. Lymph Drainage
46. Fallopian Tubes
47. Lymph Nodes (Arm Pit)
48. Sacro Iliac Joint
49. Ovary or Testicle
50. Lymph Nodes (Groin)
51. Maxilla/Submaxilla (Jaw)
52. Tonsils
not sure if this list represents
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[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

if ur friend has the patience Qi Gong will help. If u can put me in contact with them i will try and work on them as often as i can, can't promie anything but i would try. my email is kama_6@yahoo.com