Help me! Smoking

[gaag]

Any tips on helping me stop smoking bar the usual... i.e. cold turkey, patches, gum etc... they don't seem to work for me.

I had acupuncture about 4 years ago and it helped take my mind off it for a while, but went back to smoking within a matter of months.

:)

[cess]

The main thing is you have to want to quit. If you're trying to quit for external reasons, you'll probably fail in the end.

When I quit, I didn't quit all at once but I didn't ween myself either. For my last pack of cigarettes, I'd wait all day to smoke. Then just after the sun went down, I'd go outside (usually I'd smoke inside) and force myself to chain smoke two cigarettes as fast as possible. This was in the winter, so it was cold out. After I'd smoked the two, I'd get a terrible head rush. Somehow, that helped a lot. I did that till the pack was gone.

Also I cleaned out the ashtray in my car with paper towels. I threw the paper towels under the kitchen sink. Whenever I felt like I had to smoke, I'd pull out those paper towels and think about all that heavy black crap settling in my lungs with every cigarette.

When I made the decision to quit, I went ahead and told all my friends I already had quit. That way, if they saw me smoking they'd give me shit for it. Other than that, I played a lot of video games and ate a lot of Twizzlers. There may have been some illegal smokable substances in there, but I'm not telling.

But the number one thing is you have to want it for yourself. Not because someone else wants you to quit, because you want to quit. Who's stronger, you or that little pack of cigarettes? You are. So stop letting it kick your ass!

Good luck, I'll be thinking of you. It's not an easy thing to do but it's really not as hard as it probably seems. First three days are the hardest. Once you get past that point, you're on the way.

[burial]

The main thing is you have to want to quit

This.


Cold Turkey seems to be the best method for most people. Just keep trying and never give up.

[macgyver1968]

First three days are the hardest. Once you get past that point, you're on the way.

I've been smoking for 25 years. I really want to quit..but never have really tried. I fear the physical cravings....I've heard that it takes 3 days for the nicotine to get out of your system...do the physical cravings go away after this?

[crystalline]

cold turkey. Failing that do what I do, fall ill suddenly, get yourself admitted to hospital and stay there for 4 weeks. You will never need or want a cig again ;)

[crystalline]

I've been smoking for 25 years. I really want to quit..but never have really tried. I fear the physical cravings....I've heard that it takes 3 days for the nicotine to get out of your system...do the physical cravings go away after this?

they start to go after 3 days, yes.

[farros]

Allen carrs easy way to stop smoking is essential reading if you havent already...

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Jogging/running helped me quit.. as I felt my lungs become healthier and cleaner the desire gradually slipped away.

good luck!

[huyi]

I've been smoking for 25 years. I really want to quit..but never have really tried. I fear the physical cravings....I've heard that it takes 3 days for the nicotine to get out of your system...do the physical cravings go away after this?

same here, i have been smoking for 15 years, i have tried everything and still cannot stop smoking, i have migrated to rollups to keep out all the 2000 chemicals they put in normal cigarettes, but it's just the problem of reducing how much i smoke a day, currently i smoke around 10 cigs a day, i know some people who smoke 40 a day. 0_0

[macgyver1968]

same here, i have been smoking for 15 years, i have tried everything and still cannot stop smoking, i have migrated to rollups to keep out all the 2000 chemicals they put in normal cigarettes, but it's just the problem of reducing how much i smoke a day, currently i smoke around 10 cigs a day, i know some people who smoke 40 a day. 0_0

I'm not really a "conspiracy guy"...but I am fully convinced cigarette manufacturers have been manipulating the nicotine levels in smokes to increase the level of people's addiction. I've been smoking a pack a day for many years and I used to be able to go hours before feeling the physical craving in my chest. Now..I can barely go an hour. Something has changed.

For me..it's mostly a money issue. In two years, the price of smokes in Texas has increased from $3 a pack to almost $7. I want that money for other things.

[gaag]

Count yourself lucky. It's over £6 for a pack of smokes here now, almost $10 I think.
And i reckon you're right. Rolling tobacco doesn't seem to be nearly as addictive as cigarettes.

[cess]

I've been smoking for 25 years. I really want to quit..but never have really tried. I fear the physical cravings....I've heard that it takes 3 days for the nicotine to get out of your system...do the physical cravings go away after this?

Judging by my own experience and the experiences of people I know or have talked to, 3 days seems to be the average for the cravings to go away. After that you're faced with the habit of smoking. But once you've kicked the physical addiction, there's no reason why you can't kick the habit.

After you get past it, you'll be amazed at not only how much air you can breathe in, but also how much you can exhale. That's what really surprised me. I had no idea my breathing had become so shallow in both directions.

You'll also be surprised how bad it smells. Right after you quit, other smokers will absolutely reek. You don't even realize how strong the smell is because you're so used to it. Quitting smoking eventually led to me quitting drinking, because I just couldn't stand to go to bars and come out smelling like that. It doesn't wash out so easy either.

Good luck to everybody who's on the road to kicking the habit. It's easier than you think and you'll be happy you did it.

[macgyver1968]

Thank you all for your comments. It gives me a lot more confidence to try. Maybe I can take some downers and sleep for 3 days. :) I just wonder what will happen when I drink. Smoking and drinking go hand in hand...plus after putting a few down...my resolve not to smoke might not be as strong.

[glacidtek]

I quit smoking 5 weeks ago.... after 15 years of smoking 20 roll ups a day.

I'm using Nicotine patches, but most of my cravings are psychological.... smoking is assosiated with so many parts of my daily routine.

Feeling good and confident that I wont go back.

Been running and jogging - something I could never have done before - I'm seeing the benefits already.

If you want to stop, you can - just make the decision and stick with it.

[huyi]

I'm not really a "conspiracy guy"...but I am fully convinced cigarette manufacturers have been manipulating the nicotine levels in smokes to increase the level of people's addiction. I've been smoking a pack a day for many years and I used to be able to go hours before feeling the physical craving in my chest. Now..I can barely go an hour. Something has changed.

For me..it's mostly a money issue. In two years, the price of smokes in Texas has increased from $3 a pack to almost $7. I want that money for other things.

yeah it wouldn't surprise me, the price of a pack of 10s is gone up to $4.91 in your currency and a pack of 20s is about $9.83 0_0 it is all about the increased tax and the nicotine in the cigs that keeps the government's wages healthy.

i know what you mean with the cravings, after i finish a cigarette it doesn't take me long to light up again, i have been trying so hard to reduce how much i smoke in a day, it is not easy though.

[xerhaz]

I think when the time comes for you to stop, you will.
I smoked 2\3 of my life, around 30 cigs a day (sometimes rolled, sometimes rly cigarettes). For 2 years i kept thinking daily «i want to quit», but i didn´t have myself in control at all. Yet i insisted in reading about quiting, and daily, going to bed, i found myself a failure cause it was another day i failed in achieving what i wanted.

I don´t know what happened... 9 days ago i went to bed thinking i hated myself for not having who i am in control. And i threw away all cigarets, ashtrays, lighters, and went to sleep. When i woke up i reminded myself that i didn´t want to smoke because i hated it. And i didn´t.

Tbh i was the first 3 days pretty well. Whenever i thought about my choice, i realized 2 things: There is "me" (my personality, my person, my ego) and there is "my spirit".
Whenever i had the craving, i would think: «That´s the poluted "me" and ego\insecurities\fears»...so mentaly i would replace who i am by simply become aware of my spirit (i know this sounds strange maybe :D)

The worse times were at evening, like the 5th and 6th night...but when those times come, i remembered myself: "It´s shitty and rly hard to quit, and i suceeded so far, so why sabotage my choice?"
And then again i would imagine me, my person, the fear one, and «replace» that by the awareness of my spirit. (Realy, use the imagination, close your eyes and make your spirit «kick» the ass of who you are. Remember you are the Body, the Mind, and the Spirit)

So far i am feeling fine. I admit i am am super surprised and proud with myself, after smoking so many years and so much, that i am quiting this easy. But i am geting older, i would feel stupid for dying because such a dirty habbit that only costys money, and health. And the cravings...the cravings are made by the nicotine...we don´t need it...IT needs us.

I am loving to smell good, to have my hair always clean, to have body free of chemicals, and am adoring to come home and it just smells fresh whole day :D

M8...if i can do it «cold turkey», believe me....everyone can. Sure is a bit hard. but only if you give it the importance it really doesn´t have. Remember Yourself: the body is addicted...but the spirit is free. Just chose to be who you want to be.

PS- And if you get a little bit angry and anxious, just shut yourself a bit off the world :) Keep some chill out music around, force a smile when things are going hard, and chose for your choice.

Good Luck!

[alisa2]

This might help. :)

http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Meditation/Meditation_Techniques/Darshan_Diaries/Smoking_Meditation.htm

"I gave him the meditation. I said, "Do one thing. When you take the packet out of your pocket, for a moment go slowly. When you are taking the packet of cigarettes out of your pocket move slowly. Enjoy it, there is no hurry. Be conscious, alert, aware; take it out slowly, with full awareness. Then take the cigarette out of the packet with full awareness, slowly -- not in the old hurried way, unconscious way, mechanical way. Then start tapping the cigarette on your packet -- but very alertly. Listen to the sound, just as Zen people do when the samovar starts singing and the tea starts boiling, and the aroma. Then smell the cigarette and the beauty of it.... " He said, "What are you saying? The beauty?" "Yes, it is beautiful. Tobacco is as divine as anything. Even Morarji Desai is divine, so why not tobacco? Smell it; it is God's smell."

He looked a little surprised. He said, "What, are you joking?" "No, I am not joking."

Even when I joke, I don't joke. I am very serious.

[mikelambert]

I'm not really a "conspiracy guy"...but I am fully convinced cigarette manufacturers have been manipulating the nicotine levels in smokes to increase the level of people's addiction. I've been smoking a pack a day for many years and I used to be able to go hours before feeling the physical craving in my chest. Now..I can barely go an hour. Something has changed.

For me..it's mostly a money issue. In two years, the price of smokes in Texas has increased from $3 a pack to almost $7. I want that money for other things.

When you look at a lot of issues they are conspiracies, and as politicians have the mentality of serial killers it all makes economic sense. It's just that people are a little naive about the capabilities of governments - particularly that they are prepared to kill you off to save money and make way for the next generation; which will face the same sort of treatment as you got.
I suppose some people might say that you start paying into the State when you are around 16 years old, and the State has to start paying you back when you are 65 yrs (pensions plus all the other stuff) and it has been known for years that the chemical additives in Tobacco are designed to finish you off around that time.

Further to this, Tobacco is cured by soaking it in Sugar (cravings maybe) to ferment it. When you inhale this enters your lungs, and the Fungus come for it. Bingo - Lung Cancer.

In Mark Lindstrom's book BUY-ology you will see how they use MRI scans to discover how to manipulate the brains vulnerability to trigger cravings for tobacco. Why do you think all the pictures of diseased lungs are on your cigarette packet? It triggers the part of the brain (reptilian part actually) that makes you smoke. And we thought they wanted to save us. Not likely.

[heuer]

In Mark Lindstrom's book BUY-ology you will see how they use MRI scans to discover how to manipulate the brains vulnerability to trigger cravings for tobacco. Why do you think all the pictures of diseased lungs are on your cigarette packet? It triggers the part of the brain (reptilian part actually) that makes you smoke. And we thought they wanted to save us. Not likely.

Very interesting stuff!

Since you're a health expert, can you comment on cigars. Are they a healthier alternative since no inhaling takes place?

I'm more or less a social smoker, I get minor cravings but nothing I can't fight off. But I'm stopping for awhile just in-case an addiction kicks in. I will never let myself get to the point of addiction.

[mikelambert]

Very interesting stuff!

Since you're a health expert, can you comment on cigars. Are they a healthier alternative since no inhaling takes place?

I'm more or less a social smoker, I get minor cravings but nothing I can't fight off. But I'm stopping for awhile just in-case an addiction kicks in. I will never let myself get to the point of addiction.

A lot of this stuff also goes through the membrane in the mouth. I have atomisers made to get homeopathic remedies into the system quicker by spraying them into the membrane of the mouth. This includes to the lung.

There will be of course subjective issues relating to body resistance (what your made of) and volume of exposure, and of course your lifestyle (foods you eat etc) But the establishment has even worked out how to get the non-smokers (passive smoking) and it can kill these people in some cases very quickly.

Allegedly Philip Morris promised the Croatian Government that if they let them build a factory in Rovinja, they could guarantee them an annual saving of 190 million Euros through premature deaths caused by smoking by not having to pay them later life benefits. Philip Morris has a grand factory now in Rovinja.

[heuer]

A lot of this stuff also goes through the membrane in the mouth. I have atomisers made to get homeopathic remedies into the system quicker by spraying them into the membrane of the mouth. This includes to the lung.

There will be of course subjective issues relating to body resistance (what your made of) and volume of exposure, and of course your lifestyle (foods you eat etc) But the establishment has even worked out how to get the non-smokers (passive smoking) and it can kill these people in some cases very quickly.

Allegedly Philip Morris promised the Croatian Government that if they let them build a factory in Rovinja, they could guarantee them an annual saving of 190 million Euros through premature deaths caused by smoking by not having to pay them later life benefits. Philip Morris has a grand factory now in Rovinja.

Crazy stuff!

The thing I don't really get is that you've mentioned that advertising against harmful smoking (the stuff on the packets) contributes to people having cravings hence smoking more.

But you can without question say this increase in attention has decreased smoking if you simply look at statistics.

If the establishment wanted people to smoke (I'm sure they do, but I can't understand this) why wouldn't they have never actively marketed anti-smoking as significantly as they do today?

I think it's without question harmful, maybe not tobacco itself, but the chemicals they add in. But it's funny how the government supposedly cares so much about smoking yet aspartame, MSG and other chemicals are completely legal and they even poison the water supply. Yet there is no mention of such things.

[oneup]

The thing I don't really get is that you've mentioned that advertising against harmful smoking (the stuff on the packets) contributes to people having cravings hence smoking more.

Since these messages where introduced, I don't think a single smoker exists who doesn't know it's harmful. What it does, it increases the sense of "Yeah I know, but I do it anyway". And stating that it "Kills" is probably the strongest message you can think of. And if that doesn't work anymore....
Desensitization. It doesn't contribute to people having cravings or smoking more, it makes them less sensitive to being warned about the dangers.

[heuer]

Since these messages where introduced, I don't think a single smoker exists who doesn't know it's harmful. What it does, it increases the sense of "Yeah I know, but I do it anyway". And stating that it "Kills" is probably the strongest message you can think of. And if that doesn't work anymore....
Desensitization. It doesn't contribute to people having cravings or smoking more, it makes them less sensitive to being warned about the dangers.

That's true, but it also stops a lot of people from smoking in the first place. As I mentioned smoking rates have declined significantly as time has progressed.

[mikelambert]

That's true, but it also stops a lot of people from smoking in the first place. As I mentioned smoking rates have declined significantly as time has progressed.


Why do you think about the fact that lung cancer is on the increase?

[mikelambert]

That's true, but it also stops a lot of people from smoking in the first place. As I mentioned smoking rates have declined significantly as time has progressed.


I thought the original posting was to give up smoking?? For these people there are some very clever and sophisticated mechanisms being used to ensure that smokers don't quit.

[heuer]

Why do you think about the fact that lung cancer is on the increase?

There are quite a few causes that can lead to lung cancer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_cancer#Causes

Smoking seems to be one of them.

Nevertheless, looking at statistics it's very difficult to correlate smoking to lung cancer, or even death.

http://www.kidon.com/smoke/percentages.htm

Japan has the second highest life expectancy in the world and 59% of the population smoke.

Ultimately though you can't deny smoking rates have gone down, and increased awareness as to the risks of smoking is (in my opinion) primarily the reason.

I thought the original posting was to give up smoking?? For these people there are some very clever and sophisticated mechanisms being used to ensure that smokers don't quit.

Yep.

[gums79]

i used a stop smoking hypnosis mp3. i used the mp3 to stop smoking weed as i a had a drug test for my new job. i used to smoke everyday for 18yrs and i now ive stop and im going use the same mp3 to stop smoking full stop now.

P.S if u got msn messenger PM ur ID and im happy to upload it to you or any1else here. its worth a try

[macgyver1968]

I'm on my way! Yesterday, I only smoked 3...when I normally smoke 20. Hopefully in the next few days, I will try to go without all day. So, a little warning...if you see me respond to someone's post with "YOUR MOTHER SUCKS COCKS IN HELL!" you will understand why. :)

[cess]

I'm on my way! Yesterday, I only smoked 3...when I normally smoke 20. Hopefully in the next few days, I will try to go without all day. So, a little warning...if you see me respond to someone's post with "YOUR MOTHER SUCKS COCKS IN HELL!" you will understand why. :)

Great news, macgyver. You'll be ready for the last step before long. Stay strong.

[beastcop156]

Listen to your inner voice. Some call it an addictive voice. Others have called it the beast. Not a term I'm fond of at all but it does live in every single human. I've found it very difficult to overcome however it does take WILL POWER to beat this voice.

You really have to want to beat it. Listen to your thoughts. When the fast thought comes many of us do not realize it but once it is heard, you can start defeating this part of yourself.

To me it is like a child. It wants pleasure. Deny it and stick to your guns.
Tell IT NO! It will fight you like crazy and trick you. however if you recognize these thoughts as a separate being from yourself, you can attack it quite well.

This part of ourselves does not want us to hurt but it does not have maturity to deny itself pleasure. you have to teach it.

Hope that makes sense.

Next time you pick up a smoke. Put it down and listen to all the uncomfortable feelings and thoughts. It will tell you, "Do it later, One more, Next week, Get a pill", and all types off bullshit a child would tell you.

so basically force it to GROW UP.

I've been through it over different issues of my own and found cigarettes the worst as far as the swift thoughts.

Maybe it is basically KNOWING YOURSELF! Tame your beast and ride.

Good Luck

[beastcop156]

I'm on my way! Yesterday, I only smoked 3...when I normally smoke 20. Hopefully in the next few days, I will try to go without all day. So, a little warning...if you see me respond to someone's post with "YOUR MOTHER SUCKS COCKS IN HELL!" you will understand why. :)


I will laugh Macgyver!!!

Love that beast brain of yours.
Hilarious!!!

:p

[trappedinameatsuit]

Good luck, quitting is no easy task. Try to find a positive hobby to replace/help ignore the urge. When I first quit every time I got an urge I would get up and go for a walk. Also if you plan to quit, do some research on smoker's flu, and how to treat it because you will get very sick after awhile if you don't light up again. I got sick and was laid up on the bed for almost 2 weeks.

Painting, drawing, exercise, or carving/making things from wood are good hobbies to help you avoid urges. It's all about doing something to take the thoughts/urges off of your mind. Try to think of how you got by as a child and never cared about cigarettes nor would ever pick one up. Remember the happiness and joy you felt as a child, going about your business, or playing. You didn't need a cigarette then.

When we smoke we're creating excess pleasure receptors in the brain. When you don't have a cig those extra receptors aren't getting entertained so it's easy to not feel content without excess pleasure, so you have to find a hobby to entertain those extra receptors, something that will give you pleasure that isn't negative.

EDIT: Also, watch out for your urge to eat a lot if you quit. It's just another way of trying to fulfill those excess receptors that are screaming for pleasure! That's the worst part about quitting!

[kanz]

Any tips on helping me stop smoking bar the usual... i.e. cold turkey, patches, gum etc... they don't seem to work for me.

I had acupuncture about 4 years ago and it helped take my mind off it for a while, but went back to smoking within a matter of months.

:)

Obv u need to get in the mind to want to quit but after that , buy loads of lolly pop's. Sounds daft i know , but when ever u feel like a smoke , just suck on alolly , even hold it like a smoke.I found it helps alot when u want to stay off smokeing.
Maybe even combine it with a path for added effect, never tryed that myself.

[armoured_amazon]

Any tips on helping me stop smoking bar the usual... i.e. cold turkey, patches, gum etc... they don't seem to work for me.

I had acupuncture about 4 years ago and it helped take my mind off it for a while, but went back to smoking within a matter of months.

:)

Smoke 3-skin rollies with filters. By the time you've made one, you would have smoked 2 or 3 cigarettes. And then, unlike regular ciggies, it won't burn out in the ashtray. You'll smoke way less.

Alternatively, spend a lot of time round at the homes of non-smoking friends and family members. :)

[slaneysider]

Any tips on helping me stop smoking bar the usual... i.e. cold turkey, patches, gum etc... they don't seem to work for me.

I had acupuncture about 4 years ago and it helped take my mind off it for a while, but went back to smoking within a matter of months.

:)

The only way to give them up is the next time you go into a shop to buy 20.
When you get outside throw them in the bin.
If your drivin in a car just throw them out the window.
Dont give yourself a chance to even light one up.
It gets easier after a while.
This worked for me but cost a few quid but was well worth it.
The next time you have a craving for one go out for a walk or a run do some physical exercise ,by the time your finished the cravin will be gone!
Good luck!

[magnetic break]

Someone mentioned on the first page of this post
Allen Carr's book "easy way" to stop smoking. If you
want stop then read the book.
After reading it you will see tobacco in a entirely new light even
if you have smoked for 50 years, you think you know your good friend tobacco and understand tobacco but I'll bet you don't. What you understand and know about tobacco is prolly fear. The more you understand something the less your afraid of it.
The book expains tobacco in ways you probably haven't heard before.
Anyway it is worth the read, don't skip pages and read it to the end.

[truegroup]

I never use the term 'give-up' when I refer to smoking.

I stopped smoking 20 a day, and went from 20 to zero. Cold turkey.
The real issue as has been stated is you really have to want to stop.

I don't miss smoking at all, not after food, not when I have a beer. It is purely will power and the desire to not want to smoke.

Patches and gum and slow weaning off are all very well, but they suggest to your mind that you lack the will power.

Cold turkey says 'I will do it no matter what', because I want to do it.

[magnetic break]

Your right truegroup, I think there is a difference between the
words stop and quit besides the obvious.

One heavy factor of smoking or not is point of view.

When someone says they are "quitting" it sounds like they are giving
up something. most smokers would say "yeah I'm giving up cigarettes". If you say "stop" the mind frame is different in its intent.
When someone stops smoking for say 2 months and goes to a party
where people are having beers cigarettes and other such things isn't there always some smoker that congratulates the ex-smoker for not smoking and carries on how great it is that the person stopped smoking and how he or she is envious of the ex-smoker and how he or she wishes that he or she could be like that..?? that envious smoker is at every party. So then what is
there to "give up" or what are you missing out on... a nicotine addiction that suffocates you at every puff of a smoke... thats about it. I guess the point is
some people cant stop because they drink coffee or beer and ciggs just go hand and hand with those, so if your stopping smoking and your at a party
and drinking and envying everyone around who is lucky enough to have a beer in one hand and a cigg in the other just know and dont forget that everyone of those smokers are envying you because you can enjoy a beer without the ball and chain ciggs. They my say they enjoy it but really its BS in the long run.
Anyway hope thats not to preachy... Remember if your going to stop its all point of view (your not missing anything) and will power - just stop, get over the craving... they will not last forever and dont ever start again.

hope this helps someone live a little longer :)

[snow wolfe]

Any tips on helping me stop smoking bar the usual... i.e. cold turkey, patches, gum etc... they don't seem to work for me.

I had acupuncture about 4 years ago and it helped take my mind off it for a while, but went back to smoking within a matter of months.

:)

Change your routine...avoid the situations you would normally smoke in i.e. tab after dinner.

Whenever I used to light up I used to think of all the chemicals I was putting in my system, my blood thickening, dying of cancer when I'm older and wishing I hadnt smoked and my dick going soft!

[magnetic break]

I totally disagree about changing your routine and avoiding certain things.
Why should you change or miss out on things that you enjoy because you don't
smoke any more? You have to embrace these things.
Dont make smoking a handicap, smoking is the real handicap not the things you enjoy that are associated with it over time.

Everyone all ready knows the dangers of smoking, we're bombarded with it everywhere
we go by terrible images etc.. and still smokers keep smoking and will pay through the nose for them and be happy to do it... it does not matter what the dangers are.
You have to think of the good things your missing out on by smoking and really just have to want to quit. Its not impossible even for the worst chain smoker ever...mind over
matter and change your point of view, most should know that in a forum like this :)

[blackstar76]

It is good that you want to quit smoking. It is a dumb habit with no benefits. You can lease a friggin car for the monthly cost of those death sticks these days.

Take the money that you would otherwise spend on smokes and put it in a jar. You will see the money growing each time and give you more motivation to keep going. Do this and buy yourself something each month or something big at six months. Here in Canada its about 80 bucks a carton now days. If you smoke a pack a day that is 320 bucks a month saved. In six months that is almost 2 grand.

[anyuser]

E-Lites Electronic Cigarettes - E-Lites
http://www.e-lites.org

supposably taste like the real thing without the side effects,

&

Legal Bud - Legal Buds & Herbal Vaporizer | Legal Weed | Herbal Smoke

www.legalbuds.com

Those two should be good for you and so instead of smoking cigarettes fertilized with radiation

[meganjo]

If you need one you have to lose another that was the usual saying is...
quitting is all depends on how strong your attitude is towards quitting and how well you can control the craving. It is not that hard to do it.. stop it now and then.

drug rehab (http://www.soberrecovery.com)

[onourway]

Someone mentioned on the first page of this post
Allen Carr's book "easy way" to stop smoking. If you
want stop then read the book.
After reading it you will see tobacco in a entirely new light even
if you have smoked for 50 years, you think you know your good friend tobacco and understand tobacco but I'll bet you don't. What you understand and know about tobacco is prolly fear. The more you understand something the less your afraid of it.
The book expains tobacco in ways you probably haven't heard before.
Anyway it is worth the read, don't skip pages and read it to the end.

YES!!! I think this may be your best bet! I read his Stop Drinking book and stopped after almost 3 yrs of non stop drinking with little or no withdrawals or cravings. Please at least read reviews on Amazon or wherever. Good Luck!

[ytch]

<<<<<<i agree,
just stop and don´t think about it...
all this addiction- talk is brainwash

[ytch]

If you need one you have to lose another that was the usual saying is...
quitting is all depends on how strong your attitude is towards quitting and how well you can control the craving. It is not that hard to do it.. stop it now and then.

drug rehab (http://www.soberrecovery.com)

braaaaaaainwash,
nothing to do with how strong you or your attitude is,
and it´s not "not that hard to do",
it´s easy!
Non smoking can be considered the most natural thing on the planet,
same as "not eating yourself for breakfast"

[weeman]

Someone mentioned on the first page of this post
Allen Carr's book "easy way" to stop smoking. If you
want stop then read the book.
After reading it you will see tobacco in a entirely new light even
if you have smoked for 50 years, you think you know your good friend tobacco and understand tobacco but I'll bet you don't. What you understand and know about tobacco is prolly fear. The more you understand something the less your afraid of it.
The book expains tobacco in ways you probably haven't heard before.
Anyway it is worth the read, don't skip pages and read it to the end.

No doubts about this book working.
When I read the book it seemed quite repetitive at first (first few chapters).

I must admit, whilst reading the book I turned into Homer Simpson.

The amount of times I was like Doh ! I felt that way....... Doh ! I made that excuse...... Doh ! I said that.......

etcetera.

THIS BOOK WORKS, CANNOT RECOMMEND HIGHLY ENOUGH.

[dusthead]

Any tips on helping me stop smoking bar the usual... i.e. cold turkey, patches, gum etc... they don't seem to work for me.

I had acupuncture about 4 years ago and it helped take my mind off it for a while, but went back to smoking within a matter of months.

:)

OK at the beginning this will sound like 'you've been here before'. Bear with me.

1) Get a big pack of nicotine gum. It sounds like you will need the 'high strength' variety.

2) Get rid of anything used for smoking. Lighters, rizlas, matches, old packs of tobacco with sawdust in the bottom, unemptied ashtrays with roaches in. Bin the lot. And sweep outside your house too, because it's not unusual to go rooting around for disgarded fag butts. Horrible but true. You will perform these bizarre acts when you are an addict.

3) Work out how much money you are currently spending on fags a month. Keep that figure in your head. If you are supporting a family think of what that money would mean to them.

4) Every time you feel like smoking USE THE GUM. Keep your mind active with an activity whilst you do that. Maybe post on this forum or something? (but not in the section about giving up smoking).

5) Keep going for up to a month. Suddenly one morning you will wake up and you won't think about cigarrettes. In fact you will stop dreaming about them too.

6) After that, find a way to stop chewing gum. That's the next hurdle.

But importantly, you have to WANT to quit. None of the above will work if you really want to smoke.

[moving finger]

OK at the beginning this will sound like 'you've been here before'. Bear with me.

1) Get a big pack of nicotine gum. It sounds like you will need the 'high strength' variety.

2) Get rid of anything used for smoking. Lighters, rizlas, matches, old packs of tobacco with sawdust in the bottom, unemptied ashtrays with roaches in. Bin the lot. And sweep outside your house too, because it's not unusual to go rooting around for disgarded fag butts. Horrible but true. You will perform these bizarre acts when you are an addict.

3) Work out how much money you are currently spending on fags a month. Keep that figure in your head. If you are supporting a family think of what that money would mean to them.

4) Every time you feel like smoking USE THE GUM. Keep your mind active with an activity whilst you do that. Maybe post on this forum or something? (but not in the section about giving up smoking).

5) Keep going for up to a month. Suddenly one morning you will wake up and you won't think about cigarrettes. In fact you will stop dreaming about them too.

6) After that, find a way to stop chewing gum. That's the next hurdle.

But importantly, you have to WANT to quit. None of the above will work if you really want to smoke.

All of this except with an addendum to 3)

Put that money to one side. Buy yourself something cool with it that you've wanted for ages but couldn't quite afford.

My uncle & aunt once worked out how much money they spent a year on cigarettes between them and spent it all on a big holiday. They had no choice but to give up then!

Willpower is everything: 2 years cigarette free and counting despite my chain smoking wife!

[daemia]

Allen Carr's book allowed me to quit for... a couple hours. Same with hypnosis tapes. I couldn't quit cold turkey because I didn't really want to give up smoking, I felt deprived and the cravings were too distracting. For me the electronic cigarette works, but who wants to try it should check out the forum e-cigarette-forum.com before buying one.

[ytch]

My uncle used to see a hypnotist once a year,
worked fine for him,
but the rich bastard could surely afford the real deal...

If you follow allen carrs advices,
it´s almost impossible to fail...

[weeman]

Allen Carr's book allowed me to quit for... a couple hours. Same with hypnosis tapes. I couldn't quit cold turkey because I didn't really want to give up smoking, I felt deprived and the cravings were too distracting. For me the electronic cigarette works, but who wants to try it should check out the forum e-cigarette-forum.com before buying one.

You read and mentally digested the whole book and only lasted two hours?

Amazing. Just.......... Just.............. Amazing!

Using patches, gum, fake cigarettes is substituting one crutch for another.

e.g.

4) Every time you feel like smoking USE THE GUM. Keep your mind active with an activity whilst you do that. Maybe post on this forum or something? (but not in the section about giving up smoking).

5) Keep going for up to a month. Suddenly one morning you will wake up and you won't think about cigarettes. In fact you will stop dreaming about them too.

6) After that, find a way to stop chewing gum. That's the next hurdle.

[anyuser]

This should help everyone out as you don't really have to quit, you can just quit smoking the bad stuff and go all natural which = no harm done

(read whole thread as lots of good info on)

Proposal to legalize marijuana

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155180

[weeman]

This should help everyone out as you don't really have to quit, you can just quit smoking the bad stuff and go all natural which = no harm done

(read whole thread as lots of good info on)

Proposal to legalize marijuana

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155180

Don't marijuana smokers roll joints with tobacco too?

[anyuser]

Don't marijuana smokers roll joints with tobacco too?

Not to get onto you but the tread covers other stuff than marijuana too on my post. I would say its well put together if you read the thread and use the information in it.

As for your question, some do, some don't. You can use a pipe or hemp paper which = no tobacco you are smoking at all.

I have heard of isolated instances (perhapse two) where the person tries to stretch their marijuana and rolls half/half which isn't helping them quit smoking at all. With marijuana, k, k2, k3, spice, etc., you only need a little bit to get the job done and after you do this a short while, you don't even want tobacco anymore unless you smoke blunts (hollowed out cigars) with marijuana in them, which could possibly have you wanting more.

Best thing to do is visit thread posted, use information in thread as what is available, and do this instead of smoking tobacco.

There is some tobacco that is not radiated as cigarettes are fertilized with radiation http://bit.ly/gzL8vv but you will have to research to find the non fertilized with radiation tobacco. You could also use the e-lites I posted on the page before.

[weeman]

Cheers anyuser.

I don't smoke dope so my question was curiosity based only.

[anyuser]

I totally forgot about this. You can actually grown your own tobacco and therefore not smoke the raidated tobacco that the stores sell in products such as cigarettes and probably others. After cigarette prices went up by 1.50-$3 last time, there were lots of people talking about growing their own tobacco and I didn't think of it again till last night. I am going to grow my own in the future. I will have to research first as to where to get the seeds/etc but yeah, it can be done.

[deca]

don`t worry resesion and poverty this year should do the trick...want stop you wanting a cig but you just want be able to afford one

[thaj0ker]

Allen carrs easy way to stop smoking is essential reading if you havent already...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Allen-Carrs-Easy-Stop-Smoking/dp/0141026898

+1 for Allen Carr's, Easy Way to Stop Smoking. I read this book and stopped smoking. Been going strong for 10 months.

[admajic]

The only person putting the cigs in your mouth is you. No ones putting a gun to your head. So just stop doing it... Start stopping today....

[moosevens]

The only person putting the cigs in your mouth is you. No ones putting a gun to your head. So just stop doing it... Start stopping today....

this!
just stop and dont be so fucking pathetic. If you dont want to do it dont, if you do then do

half the reason anyone has a problems stopping is because they listen to the crap they are told about its addictiveness.

and dont try stopping because others tell you that you should. it wont work.