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winstonsmith
10-11-2007, 12:29 PM
Any members of the Family Of Light here? ;)

Just wondering...

mountain
10-11-2007, 12:39 PM
Any members of the Family Of Light here? ;)

Just wondering...

Shhhh!!

mountain
26-02-2008, 01:18 AM
Excerpts from Family of Light
From Chapter 1, "Reality Exists as a Mirror," Pages 16-17

One of the greatest challenges you face is to understand how the mind works. We said that we will convey thought to you, mind to mind. You are, of course, telepathically expanding. Many people are very good at it while some people cannot imagine it ever working, yet you are born with this ability. If you cultivated it, you would be far more astute than you believe yourselves to be. Then again, if you were far more astute, you would not be as manageable. Much is kept from you and held in secret as higher knowledge: your ability to heal, to use your mind to create what you want, to send and receive messages, to see pictures or read energy fields — these these are your innate abilities. If you claim these powers, then the few who live in wealth and are in charge will have a very difficult time managing you. How could they if you were free, unencumbered by shoulds, sins, and limitations?

From Chapter 2, "Doorways of Time," Page 39

Your world is marketed for separation, for meaningless living; with all the sins, heavens, and hells, it is a wonder anyone wants to be born any more. However, love is here in a form that is beyond what you can ever experience any place else. Your ultimate destiny is to turn the whole world into a love frequency, and we are here to assist you in that process. We cannot do it for you. Actually, all we can really do is entertain you, feed you ideas, and perhaps act as instigators. You are the final makers, creators, and doers. As you learn more about mind control and its many levels of influence, you will see that you are easily controlled because you do not want to be in charge of yourselves. You like it when ideas come to you, and you do not have to think. You like to be told what to do. You surf the Internet and have no idea that the ideas you are fed lock you in limited thinking. You do not realize your genes can be rearranged telepathically. It is not so easy to do; however it is done, particularly at the beginning of one age and the end of another.

From Chapter 6, "Nothing Is Exactly as It Appears to Be," Page 108

Family of Light is here to set precedents and create options, to show alternate ways, not to declare one way as the only way. No dues, no club memberships, certificates of approval, or graduation diplomas are required. You simply live, creating a vibration and a standard of living that astounds those around you. Many people who do not understand the times are afraid of the power running through humankind today, so they perceive some people with power as being arrogant. Be cautious of this fault and, as you unfold to the power of healing and the energy that is within you, be sincerely gracious. Do not snub or look down at those who have not yet discovered their abilities, because the energies are here for all people. All of you who have made the discovery are to inspire others to do the same.

From Chapter 6, "Nothing Is Exactly as It Appears to Be," Pages 117-118

The countdown during this fleeting moment of time is known by many. The World Management Team who currently influences your planet is composed of of a cluster of families, a few thousand people in number. They rule the industries of banking, media, education, and the distribution of knowledge all over your globe, and it is they, a handful of people, who challenge your freedom. They are connected through their thoughts to other entities, just as you are. The difference is they know it, and you do not for the most part, so they use their tools and techniques to connect you to the entities that they wish to feed.

The idea of invisible vampires is not unknown. Remember the Gods take all forms, and they come in to teach you and to fulfill their own destiny, which is to learn. How you learn and what lessons you attract in living will be determined by how quickly you learn the lessons in front of you right now. If the energy of the cosmos treats you to a great opportunity to love and forgive, and you do not take it, then you can be certain that you will have the opportunity to face that one again until you get it. And sometimes you will find yourself flat on your back, or perhaps flat broke, deflated, with no fizz in your mineral water, until you get it.

From Chapter 8, "Family of Dark," Pages 144-145

Whenever you go somewhere new, you are bound to meet an unknown. The presumptions you apply to the unknown territory determine what you will experience. You cannot go into a higher frequency of energy without exploring every territory; therefore the dark side of humanity and the dark side of existence now call you to examine and understand them. The dark side of power has many secrets: hiding your inheritance as beings of biological magnificence, as well as knowledge concerning the power of your mind, the power to regenerate and replicate yourself, and to truly understand the processes of sexuality, birth, living, and death. You must learn to stop fearing the darkness, and to understand the wide variety of sexual expressions that create power, a power that rests at the core of your inheritance as human beings.

seanx
26-02-2008, 01:32 AM
Great stuff, Mountain.

I like the phrase she uses to describe the Elite -'The World
Management Team '

It shows they are from all religions, nationalities and backgrounds.

What unites them, it seems to me is the coarse, lifeless, loveless energy/vibration of their consciousness.

cl2008
26-02-2008, 01:33 AM
I read that book.

I get the feeling that David and Barbara are related. Maybe they are siblings. Maybe they are Pleiadian. :)

mountain
26-02-2008, 02:33 AM
Great stuff, Mountain.

I like the phrase she uses to describe the Elite -'The World
Management Team '

It shows they are from all religions, nationalities and backgrounds.

What unites them, it seems to me is the coarse, lifeless, loveless energy/vibration of their consciousness.

Yes, it is a very simple term (World Management Team) to speak of the Family of Dark, also known as the "satanists" society or Illuminati. I have read a number of her books and yes I do agree with them as they resonate with David's work. I have posted info and excerpts from Pleiadians and they are often avalanched in this whirlwind of madness. Truth shall prevail though. :):):D:D

I especially appreciate that she and David write in a way that is easy to understand for all those who speak English as a second language. That is vital and important ofcourse, The world speaks a myriad of tongues and tones.

soglad
26-02-2008, 05:53 AM
Hmm, I am very cautious of 'channeled' material. I am kind of on the side of the I Ching guys. Basically they believe channeled material is really channeled from you higher self, your own high understanding of things. But having said that, everything said in the first post, is spot on and true!

nickatnoon61
26-02-2008, 06:26 AM
Thanx mountain, "the world is a hellish vortex, surrounded by the light" is a quote that immediately comes to mind.We still have the choice where our attention goes, if we are aware. Self-empowerment is the key. Using our unlimited connection to the Higher-Self/God self/ intuition or our very limited EGO/Intellect. I have looked at a lot of "channeling" in the past, and after what I learned about MK Ultra and mind-control, I am leery of channelers now. We have more power than we think we do. We have to recognize that and start using it. DEEP BREATHE!!!! :)

omshanti
26-02-2008, 06:33 AM
yeah, thanks for post mountain
i am currently re-reading "path of empowerment" i constantly need these reminders of late and each page is a new revelation
i crave to hear about LOVE... comforting, guiding, instructive...
there is a simplicity to the complexity of this material (from barbara) that soothes and washes o'er me....i have been in the waves of despair and non belongingness so much of late.
i am growing ever more comfortable in the mystery, however.
am not certain of anything so just in the beingness for now
not even worrying about $ which i seem to be spending rather liberally of late (had a massage yesterday)
i do feel the frequency changes within, however and feel my heart growing and releasing that which is no longer needed...change is challenging to be sure. intensarama times
these writings are great combo with david who goes into great detail with names, lineages, the break down of the science etc.
i do crave community and like of mind...i shall find this in due "time"

what do these pleiadian beings look like? appeared to anyone i wonder...
anyone know?
and what connection do they have with those of the lizzie/annunaki ilk.

have not read "family of light" nor david's latest book.
put in a biblio request though.

mountain
26-02-2008, 07:26 AM
yeah, thanks for post mountain

what do these pleiadian beings look like? appeared to anyone i wonder...
anyone know?
and what connection do they have with those of the lizzie/annunaki ilk.

have not read "family of light" nor david's latest book.
put in a biblio request though.

Actually I read in Bringers of the Dawn where they describe themselves as being reptilian and birdlike in appearance and very feminine, quite a contrast to those drawings done by Billy Meyers.

sniffle
26-02-2008, 10:23 AM
Hmm, I am very cautious of 'channeled' material. I am kind of on the side of the I Ching guys. Basically they believe channeled material is really channeled from you higher self, your own high understanding of things. But having said that, everything said in the first post, is spot on and true!


I second that one. Though I found the I Ching a little tough to read. I must dig it up and try it again.

cruise4
26-02-2008, 09:33 PM
"Basically they believe channeled material is really channeled from you higher self, your own high understanding of things."

Glad you said that Soglad. This goes to the core of my uncertainty about this channelled stuff or any other-wordly experience. Having never had one I have no idea where these things come from but it would seem sensible to assume yourself not 'other dimensions/worlds'. Unfortunately nobody seems to post decent accounts of other worlds or dream state meetups etc. Or descriptions of said world, said entity.

How could you distinguish one from the other? I can't answer that. Only someone who has had relevant experiences could, and they don't. Is that suspicious in itself? Or is this more 'knowledge' that we must be protected from by those better able to judge, according to them.

Are demons real or self created?

When I have tripped, I never thought I was in another world. I just thought I had taken something that affected the workings of my brain.

bigus_dickus
26-02-2008, 09:45 PM
"Basically they believe channeled material is really channeled from you higher self, your own high understanding of things."

Glad you said that Soglad. This goes to the core of my uncertainty about this channelled stuff or any other-wordly experience. Having never had one I have no idea where these things come from but it would seem sensible to assume yourself not 'other dimensions/worlds'. Unfortunately nobody seems to post decent accounts of other worlds or dream state meetups etc. Or descriptions of said world, said entity.

How could you distinguish one from the other? I can't answer that. Only someone who has had relevant experiences could, and they don't. Is that suspicious in itself? Or is this more 'knowledge' that we must be protected from by those better able to judge, according to them.

Are demons real or self created?

When I have tripped, I never thought I was in another world. I just thought I had taken something that affected the workings of my brain.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7a1_1203839232

mountain
27-02-2008, 05:48 PM
Whether channeled info is to be trusted or not makes no difference to me. Anything written should be questioned and pondered. I usually read material from various sources and I pick and choose bits that resonate with me. That is my firm advice to anyone that is a reader such as myself. ;)

I follow with what feels right with my heart and weave my own beliefs into the experiences of others based on life events I have had. :):):)

I know one thing for sure, and that is I would rather belong to a Family of Light that spread the message of love throughout the universe and ALL that is. I cannot fathom why someone would want to participate willingly into a web of deceit, lies, betrayal, abuse, power and control over others. That is simply wrong, unbalanced anyway, to want to influence negativity.

lookfar
27-02-2008, 07:04 PM
Whether channeled info is to be trusted or not makes no difference to me. Anything written should be questioned and pondered. I usually read material from various sources and I pick and choose bits that resonate with me. That is my firm advice to anyone that is a reader such as myself. ;)

I follow with what feels right with my heart and weave my own beliefs into the experiences of others based on life events I have had. :):):)

I know one thing for sure, and that is I would rather belong to a Family of Light that spread the message of love throughout the universe and ALL that is. I cannot fathom why someone would want to participate willingly into a web of deceit, lies, betrayal, abuse, power and control over others. That is simply wrong, unbalanced anyway, to want to influence negativity.

Great post mountain, I totally agree :)

mountain
27-02-2008, 08:24 PM
Shhhh!!

Actually there is no need to hush hush about it, right?! You were the first to start it and that is wonderful!! There seems to be another thread called this at the moment that I started with a few excerpts I dug up on the net.... We should merge them I think. I started one and realized we both have the same title. ;):D;):D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20703

lookfar
27-02-2008, 08:38 PM
Actually there is no need to hush hush about it, right?! You were the first to start it and that is wonderful!! There seems to be another thread called this at the moment that I started with a few excerpts I dug up on the net.... We should merge them I think. I started one and realized we both have the same title. ;):D;):D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20703

Ok honey, I'll merge em for you....:)

spiraltrance
27-02-2008, 09:09 PM
what do these pleiadian beings look like? appeared to anyone i wonder...
anyone know?
and what connection do they have with those of the lizzie/annunaki ilk.


I've encountered the pleiadians before possibly on two occasions. They were blonde blue eyed and extremely attractive. Saying that on the second time there were two, one white blonde haired and one light skinned black both in red robes. In both occasion they were in there mid twenties though they don't act like your typical 20-somethings, they're extemely wise and way ahead of humans though they don't have ego's so don't look down on us or judge us. They kind of view us and all life as equals to themselves.

Regarding connections with reptillians I can't really say as we didn't communicate about that.

bigus_dickus
27-02-2008, 09:16 PM
here is about pleiades and the Greek mythology about them, from which they take their name. this group of stars has always been fascinating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(mythology)

look how many cultures have a special love for these stars and even religions about them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(star_cluster)

and how about the dogon tribe who knew details about sirius, orion and the pleiades before astronomers discovered them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon

nickatnoon61
27-02-2008, 09:20 PM
Whether channeled info is to be trusted or not makes no difference to me. Anything written should be questioned and pondered. I usually read material from various sources and I pick and choose bits that resonate with me. That is my firm advice to anyone that is a reader such as myself. ;)

I follow with what feels right with my heart and weave my own beliefs into the experiences of others based on life events I have had. :):):)

I know one thing for sure, and that is I would rather belong to a Family of Light that spread the message of love throughout the universe and ALL that is. I cannot fathom why someone would want to participate willingly into a web of deceit, lies, betrayal, abuse, power and control over others. That is simply wrong, unbalanced anyway, to want to influence negativity.
I agree also, but I continually see people with this "LOVEY-DOVEY" outlook who still participate in the LOWER vibration of supporting the MASS slaughter of our animal friends. I have a shaman friend who does some wonderful work and creates wonderful products. http://www.excelexgold.com/about_twin_flames/about_twin_flames_maintext.htm
HE told me once, one of the reasons for humans to exist on this plane, is to raise the lower order of consciousness.(those lower on the evolutionary scale/animals,etc.) I said to him, "How can we do that by slaughtering them and eating them? " He gave me no answer.So ,unless one lives a vegan "do no harm" lifestyle ,this is HYPOCRACY, IMO. People also shop at Wal Mart to save a few bucks, INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING A HEALTHY/FAIR ECONOMY, by shopping at the mom and pop stores. When you support Wal Mart you are supporting the DARK......EVIL/OPPRESSION, and human slavery overseas in the sweatshops. Creating "Family of Light" also encompasses taking action, by consciously SUPPORTING the" light", does it not? ACTION IS MORE POWERFUL THAN WORDS! THIS IS SOMETHING TO MEDITATE ON,imo. Thank you........

seanx
27-02-2008, 09:23 PM
Cruise wrote:
This goes to the core of my uncertainty about this channelled stuff or any other-wordly experience. Having never had one I have no idea where these things come from but it would seem sensible to assume yourself not 'other dimensions/worlds'

I'm not too sure why it 'would seem sensible to assume yourself
not 'other dimensions/worlds'.

I don't know.....butit's quite possible.


Let's not forget this, I forget who wrote it:

Now, a few things to mention here. Firstly, the idea that humans on this tiny planet are the only life 'as we know it' in this reality is insane on the basis of statistical chance alone. Add to that the ability of advanced non-human races to move in and out of this reality from other frequencies or dimensions of existence and the staggering naivety of the 'We are alone' brigade morphs into view.

Simon Driver of the Australian National University Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics and his team estimated in 2003 the number of stars in the known universe. The figure they agreed on was 70 sextillion - 70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. 'This is not the total number of stars in the universe, but the number within the range of our telescopes,' Driver said.

let's be honest, at this stage of scientific knowledge, we
hardly know anything to be making concrete judgements
either way.......

nickatnoon61
27-02-2008, 09:24 PM
I've encountered the pleiadians before possibly on two occasions. They were blonde blue eyed and extremely attractive. Saying that on the second time there were two, one white blonde haired and one light skinned black both in red robes. In both occasion they were in there mid twenties though they don't act like your typical 20-somethings, they're extemely wise and way ahead of humans though they don't have ego's so don't look down on us or judge us. They kind of view us and all life as equals to themselves.

Regarding connections with reptillians I can't really say as we didn't communicate about that.THANX SPIRAL D, this is what I thought the Pleiadians looked like also.When I encounter "human" light-workers most of them seem to have the fine gentle features you described.

nickatnoon61
27-02-2008, 09:31 PM
Cruise wrote:


I'm not too sure why it 'would seem sensible to assume yourself
not 'other dimensions/worlds'.

I don't know.....butit's quite possible.


Let's not forget this, I forget who wrote it:

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let's be honest, at this stage of scientific knowledge, we
hardly know anything to be making concrete judgements
either way....... I agree seanx. The UNIVERSE is too vast to discount other intelligent "entities" involved in our "evolution "on Planet Earth,benevolent,or otherwise.

lizzy
27-02-2008, 10:07 PM
Thanx mountain, "the world is a hellish vortex, surrounded by the light" is a quote that immediately comes to mind.We still have the choice where our attention goes, if we are aware. Self-empowerment is the key. Using our unlimited connection to the Higher-Self/God self/ intuition or our very limited EGO/Intellect. I have looked at a lot of "channeling" in the past, and after what I learned about MK Ultra and mind-control, I am leery of channelers now. We have more power than we think we do. We have to recognize that and start using it. DEEP BREATHE!!!! :)



this is my understanding also.

i may have further to go to have the same awareness, but this is where i believe the real start is.

asentinel
29-02-2008, 06:10 AM
from earlier posting...


From Chapter 8, "Family of Dark," Pages 144-145

Whenever you go somewhere new, you are bound to meet an unknown. The presumptions you apply to the unknown territory determine what you will experience. You cannot go into a higher frequency of energy without exploring every territory; therefore the dark side of humanity and the dark side of existence now call you to examine and understand them. The dark side of power has many secrets: hiding your inheritance as beings of biological magnificence, as well as knowledge concerning the power of your mind, the power to regenerate and replicate yourself, and to truly understand the processes of sexuality, birth, living, and death. You must learn to stop fearing the darkness, and to understand the wide variety of sexual expressions that create power, a power that rests at the core of your inheritance as human beings.[/QUOTE]


I saw an invitation to explore occult sex magic rituals of the illuminati here, did anyone else? Is the channeled material saying they are harmless, or even beneficial? Maybe I misread it...

asentinel
29-02-2008, 06:17 AM
I followed comments posted earlier on channeling, and also think that it is probably relevant and useful to self, whatever you channel, as is your own particular connection, and also what comes with that will naturally follow any entities who are intent on having a say, tagging along with the show.

So one should probably not just take another's channeling to heart before using your own intuition, just as is the case with anything you hear or read from another unknown source. Discernment is the key.

mountain
29-02-2008, 08:23 AM
I followed comments posted earlier on channeling, and also think that it is probably relevant and useful to self, whatever you channel, as is your own particular connection, and also what comes with that will naturally follow any entities who are intent on having a say, tagging along with the show.

So one should probably not just take another's channeling to heart before using your own intuition, just as is the case with anything you hear or read from another unknown source. Discernment is the key.

I totally agree with you, friend. I myself have channeled myself and that is why I am the way I am today, and among such intellectual and understanding members such as yourself.:)

deliciously_fresh
29-02-2008, 10:40 AM
I've encountered the pleiadians before possibly on two occasions. They were blonde blue eyed and extremely attractive. Saying that on the second time there were two, one white blonde haired and one light skinned black both in red robes. In both occasion they were in there mid twenties though they don't act like your typical 20-somethings, they're extemely wise and way ahead of humans though they don't have ego's so don't look down on us or judge us. They kind of view us and all life as equals to themselves.

Regarding connections with reptillians I can't really say as we didn't communicate about that.

Did they appear to you during meditation? Sleep?

spiraltrance
29-02-2008, 10:42 AM
Did they appear to you during meditation? Sleep?

During what you would call lucid dreaming and also astral projection.

deliciously_fresh
29-02-2008, 10:43 AM
During what you would call lucid dreaming and also astral projection.

Okay. :)

Did they share any insights with you?

spiraltrance
29-02-2008, 11:09 AM
Okay. :)

Did they share any insights with you?

Yes though most of it was regarding my own personal/spiritual development and problems in life. And they don't communicate with just words. They speak in symbols and metaphors so it's not easy to describe there insights over a computer.

They lead very different lives to us. They were emphasising natural energy as opposed to external finite energy which we currently have on this planet. Leading simpler lives away from tv and media. Eating lot's of fruit and less, preferably no, meat.

The basis of there technology lies in consciousness. It's from there consciousness that they can travel vast distances in space and there travel isn't just in linear space as we see it. As you may know at any one point in the universe there are different frequencies or vibrations. They can tune in and out of our vibrations and also lots of others. Also they can tune our consciousness to higher vibrations and cause us to have astral projections and 'enter' other realms though most humans cannot sustain themselves in these higher realms for very long.

The disc shape (ufo) objects people assoicate with them are essentialy vehicles of light or reality and are directly connected to there consciousness and much, much more than just an object that'll take you from A to B. Hard to explain but it's almost as if they're extensions of there being and there seems to be a subjective element to them. I doubt it would possible for humans as we are to fully operate such a craft. Not least because our knowledge of what space, time and the universe is, is so limited.

deliciously_fresh
29-02-2008, 11:30 AM
Yes though most of it was regarding my own personal/spiritual development and problems in life. And they don't communicate with just words. They speak in symbols and metaphors so it's not easy to describe there insights over a computer.

They lead very different lives to us. They were emphasising natural energy as opposed to external finite energy which we currently have on this planet. Leading simpler lives away from tv and media. Eating lot's of fruit and less, preferably no, meat.

The basis of there technology lies in consciousness. It's from there consciousness that they can travel vast distances in space and there travel isn't just in linear space as we see it. As you may know at any one point in the universe there are different frequencies or vibrations. They can tune in and out of our vibrations and also lots of others. Also they can tune our consciousness to higher vibrations and cause us to have astral projections and 'enter' other realms though most humans cannot sustain themselves in these higher realms for very long.

The disc shape (ufo) objects people assoicate with them are essentialy vehicles of light or reality and are directly connected to there consciousness and much, much more than just an object that'll take you from A to B. Hard to explain but it's almost as if they're extensions of there being and there seems to be a subjective element to them. I doubt it would possible for humans as we are to fully operate such a craft. Not least because our knowledge of what space, time and the universe is, is so limited.

Did you ask that they meet you beforehand (prior to lucid dreaming)? I'm real curious as to how these experiences come about. You got folks on this board meeting reptilians, demons, pleaidians and smurfs (lol) :p.

1st bolded: Do you feel guided? More in touch with your spiritual side since the encounter? Did they ever mention angels?

2nd bolded: Interesting.

spiraltrance
29-02-2008, 11:40 AM
Did you ask that they meet you beforehand (prior to lucid dreaming)? I'm real curious as to how these experiences come about. You got folks on this board meeting reptilians, demons, pleaidians and smurfs (lol) :p.

No they didn't ask to meet me beforehand. Usualy in my experience these type of contacts come about when you least expect it and are also in sync with shifts and raising of awareness and vibration.

1st bolded: Do you feel guided? More in touch with your spiritual side since the encounter? Did they ever mention angels?

I feel a bit more guided. But I was very in touch with my spiritual side and guided before the encounters. And no they didn't mention angels directly.

deliciously_fresh
29-02-2008, 11:43 AM
No they didn't ask to meet me beforehand. Usualy in my experience these type of contacts come about when you least expect it and are also in sync with shifts and raising of awareness and vibration.



I feel a bit more guided. But I was very in touch with my spiritual side and guided before the encounters. And no they didn't mention angels directly.

Okay. Thanks. :)

mountain
23-05-2008, 09:41 AM
The disc shape (ufo) objects people assoicate with them are essentialy vehicles of light or reality and are directly connected to there consciousness and much, much more than just an object that'll take you from A to B. Hard to explain but it's almost as if they're extensions of there being and there seems to be a subjective element to them. I doubt it would possible for humans as we are to fully operate such a craft. Not least because our knowledge of what space, time and the universe is, is so limited.

Interesting, I have heard this too about some space craft. I know from personal experience that some are military. My opinion is that space vehicles are ancient and rather obsolete. I am intrigued by the notion that we can teleport and hyper-fly by thought, however.:cool:

spiraltrance
06-06-2008, 11:56 AM
My opinion is that space vehicles are ancient and rather obsolete. I am intrigued by the notion that we can teleport and hyper-fly by thought, however.:cool

Now we're getting to very complicated territory. In that post I said there's a subjective element to them. By that I mean there subjective to our perceptions and understandings of space.

I wouldn't say they're obselete. The impression I got was that these discs were kind of built into the foundations of the univerese/reality. And that they're essentialy a universal technology. These technologies can only be unlocked/accessed when a certain level of consciousness is reached.

Again we're getting into another deep area but I think the original creator of the universe built in what I can only describe as 'mechanisms' into reality for it to be experienced/explored and to allow us to grow.

niftygifter
06-06-2008, 12:03 PM
Whether channeled info is to be trusted or not makes no difference to me. Anything written should be questioned and pondered. I usually read material from various sources and I pick and choose bits that resonate with me. That is my firm advice to anyone that is a reader such as myself. ;)

I follow with what feels right with my heart and weave my own beliefs into the experiences of others based on life events I have had. :):):)

I know one thing for sure, and that is I would rather belong to a Family of Light that spread the message of love throughout the universe and ALL that is. I cannot fathom why someone would want to participate willingly into a web of deceit, lies, betrayal, abuse, power and control over others. That is simply wrong, unbalanced anyway, to want to influence negativity.

Spot on Mountain,
Its how it resonates with you as an individual, if it doesn't, then dump it, if it does then hold onto it, absorb and feel good from it, thats where its at IMO.

There are some great channellings out there, wonderful and full of hope, which does nothing but boost your positivity. http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled%20messages/June%202008/06.06.08Atmos.htm


Nifty:cool:

cruise4
06-06-2008, 01:28 PM
"I am leery of channelers now"

You have to be, I think.

niftygifter
06-06-2008, 02:20 PM
"I am leery of channelers now"

You have to be, I think.

Just take what you want from any channelling, or any thread on here for that matter.
Its about staying positive and if taking something out of it which helps, then I cant see how that can influence me other than positively IMO.


Nifty:cool:

mountain
04-01-2009, 02:53 PM
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"Your world may appear baffling. You may feel that there is so much to integrate, and wonder; How can I make sense of it all? You can. You will. You must. You are here to chart foreign territory and to pioneer an unnamed opportunity. By doing so you can truly discover one of your greatest abilities; that you are creators. You are not victims. You are not flawed. You do not need authorities. And no one needs to save you. You do not need to memorize anything from books. You must learn to use the power of your WILL and your INTENT to discover the great flowering and blossoming of life that is occurring in your Now.

Your world is marketed for separation, for meaningless living; with all the sins, heaven and hells, it is a wonder anyone wants to be born any more. However, love is here in a form that is beyond what you can ever experience and any place else. Your ultimate destiny is to turn the whole world into a love frequency, and we are here to assist you in that process. We cannot do it for you. Actually, all we can really do is entertain you, feed you ideas, and perhaps act as instigators. You are the final makers, creators and doers. As you lean more about mindcontrol and its many levels of influence, you will see that you are easily controlled because you do not want to be in charge of yourselves. You like it when ideas come to you, and you do not have to think. You like to be told what to do. You surf the Internet and have no idea that the ideas you are fed lock you into limited thinking. You do not realized your genes can be rearranged telepathically. It is not so easy to do; however it is done, particularly at the beginning of one Age and the end of another.

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The wave of energy that comes from space to awaken you brings power. However, if you continue to give up your power to others, you will live in the greatest tyranny this world can hold, a tyranny that reaches far and eventually colonizes space. The tyranny is a secret. It exists today with the secret colonization of space, yet you are unaware of it because you are being fed a story that is only part of the truth. Space is colonized and people from your planet have been out there for a long time--on the Moon, Mars, and beyond. The planets like you, are alive; they are electromagnetic beings that influence you, and during this time you must awaken again to the importance of the heavens.

A dark shroud has been cast over your consciousness, a darkness so vast that now so many of you are truly frightened to live. Your bodies are filled today with cancer, stress, and pollution because you have been primed for fear over the years and have drawn to yourself negative energies from the other realms, and these spirits of lower energies feed off your fear. Reality mirrors itself. The marketing of fear has been massive: Through meaningless data and meaningless living, you have drawn to yourself those who suck your power, vampires and parasites completely invisible to your perceptual acuities. They are nonetheless, sucking your vitality because you do not want to claim it. We will say to you, dear humans, love yourselves, place value on who you are. As you move forward and understand the unfolding absurdity of your times and why your civilization is collapsing, love yourselves. As you shift your perceptions, you will be able to rebuild your civilization based on value and respect for all life including your multidimensional ancestors, your multidimensional parents, and your reincarnational selves. As a diamond your facets include all of them, as you discover who you are.


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The vibration of faith, gained from passing through the dark territories, is your reward. Use it to take the dark energy, in need of love and healing, to the peak of the mountain with you. This act of internal balance is in essence a spiritual quest and connects you to the Gods as if they had sent a telegram saying: "You are called to our home now. Come and bring us the tales of your feats, for you have journeyed far in your reinterpretations of living. We would be glad to hear of what you know, and what you seek at his point of your initiation.

You are, dear friends, in a global initiation of realization, and once you have been initiated, you will then go on to show the way, to teach about the new territory of thought you have pioneered; however, right now you are still climbing toward the peak one step at a time. ...

p. 170. The purpose of living is to grow and the fear you meet on your path, whatever your fear happens to be is your form of the dark. The collective global fear is that of being in charge of oneself, so you give others your power of decision-making, and in their need to live up to your expectations, they have chosen a dark practice of power. This is part of the hidden wound in need of healing that you carry to the mountain. In one way or another, you are seeing a family member, friend, or yourself challenged to heal the wound of the human spirit, a wound that ripples throughout time and deep within the human psyche, a wound truly about separation and isolation. Contemplate this thought for a moment: You have in late 20th and early 21st century Earth, become completely isolated form the majesty of spirit that is all around you; yet that hidden blanket of aliveness is now unfurling and there is no stopping it.

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mountain
04-01-2009, 03:01 PM
To know what you want in your lives... you will have to question "the System". The System rewards you when you follow its messages and its rules: You jump when its bells are rung, mindlessly agreeing to play its game for a paycheck, a vacation, prestige, and status. By going along, you abdicate your ability to think for yourselves.

The test you face is one of power, so we will explore some of the positive—and not so positive—aspects of power, because there is no escaping power. Your value and your power have been undermined. Perhaps you have been taught that you are flawed, or that the Gods must intercede on your behalf. Well the Gods, those whose dance through the heavens has become the cosmic quickstep, are going to appear everywhere in the next fifteen years, and these Gods may offer to "save" you with their technology.


So as you seek to understand the absurdity of these times, look at what is important by applying your values to yourself. Imagine a computer with data banks of stored information. If you push the proper button, a tremendous amount of data is available; however a computer only holds the information put into it. In many ways you are far more advanced than any computer you will ever create in third-dimensional reality. You are living biological constructs with a magnificent lineage, capable of an impeccable existence. There are, however, a few adjustments needed to get you up and running, insights that are rarely understood by humans.


In order to truly know yourself, begin by taking a deep breath and acknowledging your body: Be who you are and you will discover that you are very much alive and are here to live. Now stretch your imagination to see your ancestors: your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and on back through time; we dare you to find an end to your bloodline. If you found an end to your line, you could not be, could you? And as you consider your lineage, imagine your ancestral blood and the genetic codes stored in your body at this very moment. Over time what has been passed through your genes? How far back through time can you reach in your mind?


During the Dark Ages and early centuries of the Piscean Age, particularly the first five hundred years, considerable ignorance and confusion prevailed. Different factions formed back then and argued over whose God was God and which book held the truth. If you explore the cells of your being and drift into another avenue of perception, perhaps you can remember what it was like.



As the Piscean Age actually began to blossom, many souls were purposely sent to incarnate. The Piscean Age is characterized by some as one of great enlightenment and passion, one of forgiveness and deep cosmic connection. We ask you to look back and see: Is that what has happened over the last two thousand years?



Whenever an age is opening or closing, a great shift of energy occurs. It could be considered like a change of political administrations, and as with a change of administration, there is always a shift of power. Now, one of the most vital forces you must understand is power. When you reflect on values and what you want to have, some of you think that power is money or money is power. KNOWLEDGE is power. And then consider that just because you have knowledge does not mean you are wise. How you use knowledge will determine what will happen with power. As reality continues to maintain the ongoing law of mirroring itself, how you use your power will determine what happens to you. This is very important for you to grasp. You cannot escape power and its lessons. As a matter of fact, everything being directed at you today is meant to make you feel powerless, to have you believe you have not one iota of power. And this belief, stored in the cells of your being, was imprinted thousands of years ago.

You are easily duped and tricked; however do not berate yourselves for what we share with you. It is essential that you take charge of your lives and learn that life is significant, and that there are lessons to be learned in living. One of the most important lessons is for you to develop a sense of humor, to maintain a sense of humor and keep a perspective on the development of human consciousness. You are a consciousness that incarnates again and again, yet you now live as if your lives were meaningless struggles with disease, sickness, starvation, and war. And what about love?


You have all been touched by love at least once in your lives, and many of you come here over and over again just to experience love. When you find what is important to you, what is worth accruing, and list your values, we ask you to reflect for a moment: How important is love? Love comes in many many flavors and experiences. Love is the heart opening through an energetic connection between electrical fields that unites people, touching you in a way that never leaves you. As we look at the Book of Earth, we see over and over again that what moves you forward is this invisible force, this frequency that is called love. However some of you believe you are here to experience, to learn, to gather data, and to have a good time, and the importance of love is news to you. There is nothing wrong with these assumptions. Yet understanding the frequency of love is your ultimate lesson in living. To manifest it, all you have to do is feel it. You must begin to manage yourselves as biological spiritual beings. Love is one of your major tools to living. How free you are with it, how self-generating and responsible, is the lesson that you have come into life to learn.



You know when you feel love it is quite contagious, is it not? Love spreads quite easily and is the opposite of fear. If you reflect upon fear and are truly honest with yourselves, you will see that many of the ideas instilled in you through your ancestral lineage, books, and history, are about fear. You are encouraged to be afraid of God and your bodies. You are convinced you must have an authority outside yourselves because you are not capable of managing your own biological beings. And now you are being convinced that even your local governments cannot manage you, that you need a larger global government to manage your world.

Limited thinking, encouraged and taught to your ancestors, is imprinted in the cells of your body. Your ancestors' responses to these teachings over thousands of years, and to the times in which they lived—their reactions to violence, laws, and authority—were imprinted in their bodies in the course of daily living. Everything you deal with in daily living is recorded and stored in your physical body, and just because you do not consciously remember your experiences does not mean the cells of your body forget. Memories and responses to living are passed through your genes from one generation to another.


Throughout the annals of Western history, you have passed down an imprint of fear. When Family of Light* incarnated over two thousand years ago, they were adepts of Light and Love, capable of many miraculous feats, and those in authority felt threatened. They did not want these teachings brought to the masses, and so there were many opposing factions from the beginning. (*The Pleiadians say "Family of Light" are system busters who travel through time to systems in need of change, helping facilitate the collapse of the system.)
The Roman Empire was the Piscean version of the New World Order — a karmic parallel of the Aquarian Age. Both orders, old and new, offer the possibility for a domineering, world-conquering force. When you manage people, you must first convince them they need managing. So they create the problems and then let the people cry for solutions. Fear is distributed throughout the land—not love. Fear has a very powerful vibration, and when one holds fear in the body it transmits everywhere rather quickly with the same "catchiness" as love.


There was a battle over love and fear. If love had prevailed, then the people would have understood their higher powers: the ability of the human mind to transcend the body, to astral travel, and to feel connected to All That Is. If that had occurred, then humans would have ended their separation. Well it was not to be. In the last two thousand years, you have moved deeper into separation rather than deeper into unity and love. Fear won. If you question this conclusion, we ask you to open the fan of history and see how many people have died in the name of a higher power. How many books have been burned and how many people have been raped and tortured? How many indigenous lands have been wiped out and ancient manuscripts destroyed?


In the coming era of the Aquarian Age, the energy coming through will seek to enlighten all humankind. In order for this to occur, you must understand the depth of your past, your karma, and the lessons in living of the Piscean Age that you are about to conclude. You must make sense of the last two thousand years and spread the awareness to humanity.


A veil has been laid like a thick and heavy fog over your consciousness for many reasons. When you were born most of you immediately felt the struggle of living. Throughout your childhoods you strove to make sense of life; however you were told that life had no point or purpose and you were filled with fear. In school you had to memorize data that did not link up to anything, reinforcing the ancient limited thinking of separateness. Everything was separate, nothing was significant, everything was an accident. Most of your ancestors were encoded with this idea, yet there were always renegades. You are the renegades today, as there were renegades two thousand years ago and two thousand years before them. There are always those who do not buy the stories in the history books. Remember, the victors write the books; however those who live their own truths record their stories in their genes and in the ethers.


Now two thousand years later you are a product of the fear stored in your cells, a fear of opening to a new age of being and of being all-powerful. Your history is filled with fights in all countries, in all corners of the world, over whose God is God, whose beliefs are correct, who are the infidels and who are the righteous ones. Now if you look at this story from a larger perspective, you will begin to get suspicious. How could the same pattern be so predominant all over the world? Why do we find people always fighting each other over their truth, over their God, a God supposedly based on love, but a love located outside the self?

Your great solution, no matter what is occurring, is to love yourself and vibrate that frequency outside yourself. Doing so will allow many doors to open, and likewise many unwanted probabilities will simply pass you by, like a bird on the wing.


Today you are faced with a recurring opportunity. Imprinted in the consciousness of humankind are the experiences of all of your ancestors. When the ages shift, a great opportunity is at hand, so what will you do about it? Will you claim your power? Will you claim what is in your genes? If you reach further back in your mind, you might remember another calendar point... about thirteen thousand years ago on the precession calendar, another important time of enlightenment occurred. It was a time when power was to be understood, a time that you yourselves remember as the final collapse of a very old civilization, a royal age unable to manifest because it was based on selfishness. No one in Atlantis counted love as their most important value.



Contemplate what their experience, thirteen thousand years ago, suggests to you. The Atlanteans were savvy with their technological skills, and they too understood the ether as an invisible spirit world, a world to travel into and to bring energies from. They understood the power of crystals and the power of the mind. More than that, they understood mind control, for the ability to control another human's mind reaches deep into time. You seem to have developed your own perfections of it in late-twentieth-century Earth; however this practice dates back into the early annals of existence, as some already know and remember.


Your world may appear baffling. You may feel that there is so much to integrate, and wonder: How can I make sense of it all? You can. You will. You must. You are here to chart foreign territory and to pioneer an unnamed opportunity. By doing so you can truly discover one of your greatest abilities: that you are creators. You are not victims. You are not flawed. You do not need authorities. And no one needs to save you. You do not need to memorize anything from books. You must learn to use the power of your will and your intent to discover the great flowering and blossoming of life that is occurring in your Now.


Your world is marketed for separation, for meaningless living; with all the sins, heavens, and hells, it is a wonder anyone wants to be born any more. However, love is here in a form that is beyond what you can ever experience any place else.



Your ultimate destiny is to turn the whole world into a love frequency, and we are here to assist you in that process. We cannot do it for you. Actually, all we can really do is entertain you, feed you ideas, and perhaps act as instigators. You are the final makers, creators, and doers. As you learn more about mind control and its many levels of influence, you will see that you are easily controlled because you do not want to be in charge of yourselves. You like it when ideas come to you, and you do not have to think. You like to be told what to do. You surf the Internet and have no idea that the ideas you are fed lock you in limited thinking. You do not realize your genes can be rearranged telepathically. It is not so easy to do; however it is done, particularly at the beginning of one Age and the end of another.


A dark shroud has been cast over your consciousness, a darkness so vast that now so many of you are truly frightened to live. Your bodies are filled today with cancer, stress, and pollution because you have been primed for fear over the years and have drawn to yourself negative energies from the other realms, and these spirits of lower energies feed off your fear. Reality mirrors itself. The marketing of fear has been massive: Through meaningless data and meaningless living, you have drawn to yourself those who suck your power, vampires and parasites completely invisible to your perceptual acuities. They are, nonetheless, sucking your vitality because you do not want to claim it. We will say to you, dear humans, love yourselves, place value on who you are.



As you move forward and understand the unfolding absurdity of your times and why your civilization is collapsing, love yourselves. As you shift your perceptions, you will be able to rebuild your civilization based on value and respect for all life, including your multidimensional ancestors, your multidimensional parents, and your reincarnational selves. As a diamond your facets include all of them, as you discover who you are.


http://www.innerself.com/Towards_2000_Plus/Doorways_of_Time.htm

faulconandsnowjob
14-01-2009, 08:11 AM
Any members of the Family Of Light here?
Yes - hola :)

Unfortunately, I don't have time to read & comment about more on this thread right now, but channeled info is real. There really are beings that exist in difft dimensions that you can get into contact w/. Just be careful, b/c there are both dark & light ones out there. Trust your instincts.