Bank of England Implicated in Massive World Fraud

[niftygifter]

The massive ongoing Fraud Expose in America with literally Trillions of dollars being stolen from everyone on the planet is slowly uncovering.

The deception of the Bush family, Clintons and the majority of their puppets is slowly being "revealed"
The media still continue to keep wraps on this but are slowly losing their grip also;)
You can see the efects on the markets if you look closely enough, it really is happening.
The Provost Marshall is arresting people from all the major banks. In order to elect a Provost Marshall, this must be done by a World court, he also has the power to arrest the President and anyone else that stands in his way. These powers have already been exercised. The use of a Provost Marshall within the USA is unprecedented and shows how dire the circumstance are with the finance markets.

Please read the latest reports and show anyone you know of in the banking business what is exactly happening:cool: THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
If this continues there WILL be a Global Financial disaster coupled with World financial collapse. The result of which could result in large scale inter country warrings. Nearly every single country on the planet is involved here:eek:

You can read the latest and all earlier reports from insider good guys in America here:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=7496429eb197c1f6f61ec00c93f4ad9a

Nifty:mad:

[Anders Lindman]

Very interesting. It is highly suspicious how ALL politicians, from the left to the middle to the right, have been totally SILENT about how the banking system works, except for a few politicians like Ron Paul that is. Not only in America but politicians all over the world. I have for example never heard any of the Swedish politicians even mentioning how the banking system operates. Extremely suspicious!!! :mad:

[Anders Lindman]

But I don't understand the article. Who is this Ambassador Wanta? Do banks owe Wanta $47 TRILLION?! What for? That's more money than even Bill Gates will earn in a lifetime. Is the article a spoof?

[Anders Lindman]

Looks like a spoof alright. I wouldn't trust news from a site called The Spoof:

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i26623

:D

[niftygifter]

I would'nt trust any site called Spoof either, but the links referred to in an earlier post were absolutely spot on with their "predictions".

They predicted that the Merril Lynch and Citibank CEO would go over three days before it was announced on Sky news.

Everything they have predicted so far has proved conclusive, the markets are squirming erratically, but no one knows why;) and the dollar is dropping faster than a 500lb bomb from a liberator aircraft.

The media are starting to break ranks and I believe that it is only time before this becomes mainstream.:rolleyes:
Then the fun will really start.
Nifty:D

[gold]

I would'nt trust any site called Spoof either, but the links referred to in an earlier post were absolutely spot on with their "predictions".

They predicted that the Merril Lynch and Citibank CEO would go over three days before it was announced on Sky news.

Everything they have predicted so far has proved conclusive, the markets are squirming erratically, but no one knows why;) and the dollar is dropping faster than a 500lb bomb from a liberator aircraft.

The media are starting to break ranks and I believe that it is only time before this becomes mainstream.:rolleyes:
Then the fun will really start.
Nifty:D

If this carries on, what do you think will happen? Is this another step towards a cashless society?

[niftygifter]

IMO this is the catalyst for the fall of the Bush administration.
The world are no longer standing by to await the moves of this lunatic and his cronies.(Clintons, Rumsfeld,Cheney et al)
THey can only survive on greed and power, if you take away the stuff that feeds them, then you take away the problem!

They are ripping everyone off as much as they can because they all believe they are "above the law" and have a "power" beyond reproach:o

America is on the brink of financial disaster with other world powers deciding not to utilise the american dollar as their base for economy. The people there are so unaware of the implications around them, due mainly to the massively controlled media. But the media dont realise that they will be a big part of the suffering (idiots!!). It needs one mainstream media unit to go with this and the lot will topple:p As soon as the greed goes out of the equation, then this will release, its almost a lesson here, I feel:rolleyes:

Other governments are "calling in" their loans and recent visits by the Queen of England, Putin etc. are reinforcing the message;)

The Provost Marshall is in force but is being constantly frustrated (purposely) in his actions.

I dont think it will become a cashless society, it will be a new banking system based on truth and a more equal prosperity, according to the links.
I certainly hope so.

Nifty:D

[Anders Lindman]

I would'nt trust any site called Spoof either, but the links referred to in an earlier post were absolutely spot on with their "predictions".

They predicted that the Merril Lynch and Citibank CEO would go over three days before it was announced on Sky news.

Everything they have predicted so far has proved conclusive, the markets are squirming erratically, but no one knows why;) and the dollar is dropping faster than a 500lb bomb from a liberator aircraft.

The media are starting to break ranks and I believe that it is only time before this becomes mainstream.:rolleyes:
Then the fun will really start.
Nifty:D

Yes, I have seen recent mainstream news articles about big banks being in trouble. For that kind of information, I think mainstream media can be trusted.

I'm not sure there will be serious problems though, although this will be worthwhile to keep an eye on. The dollar fall for example really does seem pretty worrisome.

[gold]

IMO this is the catalyst for the fall of the Bush administration.
The world are no longer standing by to await the moves of this lunatic and his cronies.(Clintons, Rumsfeld,Cheney et al)
THey can only survive on greed and power, if you take away the stuff that feeds them, then you take away the problem!

They are ripping everyone off as much as they can because they all believe they are "above the law" and have a "power" beyond reproach:o

America is on the brink of financial disaster with other world powers deciding not to utilise the american dollar as their base for economy. The people there are so unaware of the implications around them, due mainly to the massively controlled media. But the media dont realise that they will be a big part of the suffering (idiots!!). It needs one mainstream media unit to go with this and the lot will topple:p As soon as the greed goes out of the equation,

then this will release, its almost a lesson here, I feel:rolleyes:

Other governments are "calling in" their loans and recent visits by the Queen of England, Putin etc. are reinforcing the message;)

The Provost Marshall is in force but is being constantly frustrated (purposely) in his actions.

I dont think it will become a cashless society, it will be a new banking system based on truth and a more equal prosperity, according to the links.
I certainly hope so.

Nifty:D

The banks or rather the Rothschild, will never allow a new banking system to come into control, based on truth?? Never! It is impossible for the their system to be based on truth, they don't know the meaning of the word. JFK got assassinated for this very reason, and many more ideas he had! This is what they have based their Empire on, MONEY, to keep the working class labouring! All money means to these people is Slave Labour 9 to 5, and a controlled work force. Eventually the work force will be working for the Illuminati without a wage. Before soon you will only be allowed the privilege to live and breath air on this planet, if you work! Who the hell do they think they are?) A trillion dollars to them, does not exist, It just means, a work force! Man Labour. And if we don't work for them they'll have robots to do it for them, ie, us micro chipped:eek: This is where we all begin to wake up, HOPFULLY!

[cruise4]

I am under the impression that the exponential debt line is about vertical. So I don't expect anything but total collapse. How can it do anything else?

I see us all having to return to some local 'barter' type system at some point.

[gold]

I am under the impression that the exponential debt line is about vertical. So I don't expect anything but total collapse. How can it do anything else?

I see us all having to return to some local 'barter' type system at some point.

I'll give you 2 welsh lambs for your blow:D:D

[cruise4]

Thats such a good deal I might just take you up on that later:D
Mind you it don't half make a mess getting them into your wallet.

[infinitely free]

Sorry niftygifter, I didn't get it -
how is Bank of England implicated in Massive World Fraud?

[niftygifter]

Its mentioned in the link way down ;)

"BANK OF ENGLAND OVERDUE FOR A CLEAN-OUT, TOO

Since the Bank of England has been up to its neck in this financial corruption, we would hope that the British authorities are at last taking drastic action, along the lines taken at the Bundesbank in recent days. It will be recalled that the former Governor of the Bank of England, the Lord (Eddie) George, was arrested in July, but subsequently released. Dr Greenspan was arrested on or around 10th June and held in custody, we believe, for about three weeks."

NIfty:D

[gold]

Thats such a good deal I might just take you up on that later:D
Mind you it don't half make a mess getting them into your wallet.

:D:D:D

[niftygifter]

Please find some updated passages within this report which explain more about Leo Wanta, his stolen monies and the colossal theft going on :cool:

It is found here:

http://www.worldreports.org/news/92_u.s._state_departmen


Nifty:D

[Anders Lindman]

Please find some updated passages within this report which explain more about Leo Wanta, his stolen monies and the colossal theft going on :cool:

It is found here:

http://www.worldreports.org/news/92_u.s._state_departmen


Nifty:D

It's the same spoof story plastered all over the Internet, with: Please Make a Donation. :(

[umbrex]

on the economic foprums i frequent this is deemed a hoax..

..cheney however, is getting impeached for his role in misleading the populous of the world: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.res.00799:

[niftygifter]

First things first, I know nothing about banking at all, so I have being "going with the flow" on this story, admittedly.

But if this is a hoax in any way, these people have gone to a significant amount of time and effort to report this and I cant believe that they would have gone to this length for just "donations". Every website needs donations to keep running including this one;)

When you look at this information, its depth and research, lists and catalogued events, it is a record being developed for historical and maybe legal purpose.
Do you really think that they would have gone to this depth on a hoax?

I would have run out of steam a long time ago:)

Time will tell I guess but, the markets are definitely plummeting, snippets are now starting to emerge via media sources and I have a gut feeling that this is for real.

But that is only my little opinion:rolleyes:
Who am I to judge:cool:

Nifty:D

[misscpb]

If this carries on, what do you think will happen? Is this another step towards a cashless society?

Very good point.

[Anders Lindman]

But if this is a hoax in any way, these people have gone to a significant amount of time and effort to report this and I cant believe that they would have gone to this length for just "donations".

You'd be amazed how much effort people put in to create frauds like this. And it's really only a single story, and then they copy it all over the Internet.

Compare your first link to your second link:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=7496429eb197c1f6f61ec00c93f4ad9a

http://www.worldreports.org/news/92_u.s._state_departmen

The first story starts:

"STATE DEPARTMENT CLAIMS THAT WANTA WAS PICKED UP AT 3.25PM TO GO TO THE BANK, WHICH IS AN OUTRIGHT, EGREGIOUS LIE. HE REMAINED IN HIS HOTEL ROOM ALL DAY."

The second story starts:

"STATE DEPARTMENT CLAIMS THAT WANTA WAS PICKED UP AT 3.25PM TO GO TO THE BANK, WHICH IS AN OUTRIGHT, EGREGIOUS LIE. HE REMAINED IN HIS HOTEL ROOM ALL DAY."

It's the same story!

With the same: "Please Make a Donation"

We should be wise to say: "Please give me a break!"

Show me the money

[niftygifter]

Anders,
Yes it is the same story title, but there are updates to the second story if you read it correctly.

Anyway time will tell:rolleyes:

Nifty:D

[Anders Lindman]

Anders,
Yes it is the same story title, but there are updates to the second story if you read it correctly.

Anyway time will tell:rolleyes:

Nifty:D

Ok. I only read the beginning of the stories. Sorry about that. Although it looks like the first story now has been updated.

The story doesn't really say who this Ambassador Wanta is. How could banks owe him $4,5 trillion? That's almost 85 times Bill Gates' net worth which is $53 billion according to Forbes.

[helloperator]

Everything coming to light...people waking up to fraud, manipulation, corruption, 911...may be nothing more than the result of a behind the scenes coup...the old hidden leaders being turfed out by some other hidden group...played out for 'us' it seems like the bad guys are on the way out...when really all it will be is a take-over, all played out in the dark.

[niftygifter]

OK, now here is a thought.
I have sat and thought deeply for most part of the night. Drop the hoax scenario for the moment, because the end fact is that the dollar is in freefall.

A few things have come to mind here:rolleyes:

What if this is deliberate, what would be the benefit to the NWO.... an answer that springs to mind immediately is Martial Law.
A worldwide financial disaster rippling through every country, a lot of which, incidentally, have had recent amendments to their constitutional powers (i.e. subtle changes to the laws of their lands, in particular with respect to Martial law, slipped in very covertly and conveniently).

Also something that came to mind was that somewhere on the internet it was stated that the Queens speech mentioned the move towards a New World Order. Now did this speech occur before the dollar dive?... 6 November.
As Lizzy is known to be a major influencer, if not the leader of this movement could this be an international trigger to start this maybe??

Food for thought:confused:


Nifty:D

[niftygifter]

http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_868.shtml

Update here and I dont like what it is implying.
Although there is a lot of info from the earlier reports:(
THey wont be able to hide this from the media though!!

Oh and one other thing....it's 11:11

Nifty:eek:

[cruise4]

I don't see the nose-dive, as you put it, as a deliberate ploy. They have no choice in this matter. Its rather an inevitable consequence of the way they implemented the Money Scam. This had to happen sooner or later and its happening now. Is it not more likely they hoped this situation was a few years away yet and they are looking into the abyss a good deal earlier than they intended. But now they will use everything they can to 'hold on' including false economic reporting, wars, martial law etc. And this will make a good backdrop to the 'we must form into power blocks' (NAU), for the uninitiated.

I was listening to galloway last night, accidentally, and thinking I wish someone would come on and mention the money scam, and blow me, 30 seconds later someone did. Unfortunately he didn't know enough and somewhat blew the question, but an accountant came on and admitted money was produced from thin air. Its getting out.

[synergy777]

http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/november2007/091107_european_economy.htm

Ex-Wall Street Journal Editor: Dollar Collapse Will Cripple European Economy

The father of Reagonomics and former Wall Street Journal editor Paul Craig Roberts has warned that the collapsing dollar will eventually cripple the European economy and may even return the world economy to a barter system as financial chaos ensues

Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury says world economy could return to barter system

[synergy777]

Paul Craig Roberts

Paul Craig Roberts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

might be controlled opposition who knows, but i find his work to be measured, insightful and objective, very good.

[john white]

http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/november2007/091107_european_economy.htm

Ex-Wall Street Journal Editor: Dollar Collapse Will Cripple European Economy

The father of Reagonomics and former Wall Street Journal editor Paul Craig Roberts has warned that the collapsing dollar will eventually cripple the European economy and may even return the world economy to a barter system as financial chaos ensues

Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury says world economy could return to barter system

Thats very very interesting

[niftygifter]

It supposedly goes on:mad:

The update is from :http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_868.shtml
"UPDATE POSTED 10.00PM SUNDAY 11TH NOVEMBER:
In addition to the waves of arrests of bankers and other financial sector employees mentioned to date, we now understand that the Provost Marshal General's now very large criminal investigation team has a list of about 4,000 individuals and parties suspected of involvement in financial frauds, who are being questioned and subjected to military-style investigations across the United States.

Morgan Stanley, which conspired with Citibank to create a fictitious account with a name close to that of AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc., is being investigated by the SEC. Its violations of SEC securities regulations are of the gravest possible nature and will have unpleasant consequences for this institution. The conspiracy between Citibank, Morgan Stanley and the third institution (known to the Editor, but which cannot be named yet) to divert Wanta's $4.5 trillion funds, is the most scandalous development (aside from the stealing of HM The Queen's gold and the theft of $47 trillion, both of which have been recovered, along with Mr Wanta's $4.5 trillion) recorded to date. The institutions concerned took a hell of a risk, and got caught. As you can imagine, this development has placed Ambassador Wanta in an impregnable position, the outcome of which will cause astonishment when we are authorised to publish the facts of what has been going on, and details of the consequent collapse of an intricate, layered, convoluted model of corruption designed by George Bush Sr. and Dr Alan Greenspan, which they had believed was so impregnable that they could never, ever be exposed. It is also to be understood that they never intended to honour ANY of their obligations".

Nifty:D

[niftygifter]

I am still following this thread and here is the latest.
Someone somewhere should soon be able to back this up there is too much info coming from here to be a hoax IMO!!!

It is going to break!!!

http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_876.shtml

Nifty:eek:

[synergy777]

its a hoax imho. the fall out from the sub prime/cdo is huge, but i think this is spoof.

[synergy777]

paul craig roberts = near enough the truth

leo wanta = a well made spoof

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i26623

Arrests of Bankers in Wanta Scandal Underway, Could Include Bush, Cheney, Clinton

http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thread/31df3fd3-a2ba-4d44-bdd1-0cb7ed0ad458

[niftygifter]

I am not so sure that its all spoof, mate. Some other interesting news and I have highlighted some areas which leap out. They are currently topics of conversation regularly heard in our government.


"Now almost 40 years later, the Illuminati banksters are still creating trillions out of thin air, keeping the American people and the western world in bondage and what amounts to financial slavery.

However, one man who may hold the key to exposing much of the illegal banking fraud and recently released from a 20 year jail term, is former Russian and CIA operative, Ambassador Leo Emil Wanta.

Although unavailable for comment at the time of publication but according to another European bank fraud investigator, Marco Saba, Wanta has been released "to active duty" and is holding 25 USD trillion in foreign bank accounts and money that needs to the U.S. Treasury Department.

"I am trying to help him to accomplish this operation," said Saba Wednesday from his home in Milan, Italy.

In a valiant attempt to get at the root of the Illuminati's global slush fund, author Christopher Story's work shines a brilliant light on the Illuminati's shady and dark financial underworld. However, when the mainstream press in England and America were alerted about Story's findings, management at a leading London newspaper had this to say about printing the financial expose:

"We won't touch this subject with a thousand-foot barge pole!"

But Saba who is investigating the shady financial trail for the Observatory of Organized Crime in Switzerland had this to say about his investigation as well as highlighting Story's findings:

"In 1992, the Illuminati orchestrated the raising of a targeted $27.5 trillion from at least 200 international institutions, in the biggest, secretive private placement financing operation in world history.

"The mainstream media unfortunately failed to report this operation so the general public is ignorant of it. The aim was to provide finance for the imposition of the New World Order, a.k.a., the New Underworld Order, for its use throughout the 21st century.

"The euphemism for this program is the "global security environment". The consequent monumental "Global Security Fund", which is managed in Brussels, and is directed on behalf of the global Illuminati controller's by financial intelligence operatives, now disposes of secret financial resources of approximately $65 trillion for this purpose, probably far more.

"Equipped with such limitless resources, the directors of the New Underworld Order have now amassed sufficient finance to bribe every leader, ruler, policymaker, intelligence operative and political figure worldwide, for the rest of this century, in pursuit of their aims. The New Underworld Order addresses the greatest crisis the world has ever faced namely, the globalization of criminalism. What this means is that governments, and the revolutionary New World Order cabal seeking global governance (or control), are increasingly in the hands of criminal gangs and corrupt power cliques that hide behind formal government positions."

"Many of the main Illuminati figures on the world stage today are compromised or vulnerable to blackmail and other "Black Ops" forms of control. During the giga-fund-raising operation, truly unbelievable sums of money were stolen, mis-routed or misappropriated. Indeed, the ransacking and pillaging that took place was so colossal, and the impasse while this was occurring so extended (in 1989-91), that the international banking and financial systems nearly collapsed. Other funding resources resulting from creative financial warfare and scamming operations are hidden in accounts held by offshore corporations controlled by international intelligence, which is extensively criminalized and thus increasingly engaged in mafia-style global gangland warfare .

"A brilliant light is focused by the Author into this contemporary universe of darkness. Christopher Story's sensational new exposé provides chapter and verse on the dark forces behind the New Underworld Order, gives detailed financial audit trails showing where and how colossal sums have vanished, identifies the international institutions that have had their trust abused by globalist criminals or have themselves been corrupted by them, shows how secret Financial Warfare operations and scams conducted by the great powers are driving the world to catastrophe, and generally lifts the veil covering the global financial intelligence war which the pressured mainstream media declines to monitor and report. So exposure of these matters is obviously overdue and the New Underworld Order performs this needed forensic function, revealing dark actors playing games."

http://www.rense.com/general70/cash.htm

Nifty:mad:

[Anders Lindman]

I am not so sure that its all spoof, mate. Some other interesting news and I have highlighted some areas which leap out. They are currently topics of conversation regularly heard in our government.


"Now almost 40 years later, the Illuminati banksters are still creating trillions out of thin air, keeping the American people and the western world in bondage and what amounts to financial slavery.


It certainly looks like a spoof, BUT the enormously large sum of money, $4,5 trillion, is perhaps a sum not foreign to the elite who's wealth could be magnitudes larger than for example Bill Gates' net worth. The elite with zillions of euros in their pockets are not mentioned in public media, but that doesn't exclude the possibility that there are people in the world who are ridiculously much richer than the publicly known richest people.

But still, this Ambassador Wanta story seems too much of a spoof. But the fact is that many of the top managers of big banks have been removed according to mainstream media. So something seems to be going on.

[niftygifter]

Info on the Wanta backgournd.
Seemingly owed to the Chinese:cool:

http://vigilantjingoist.blogspot.com/2007/11/criminal-collapse-of-citibank-and.html

I just dont know anymore:rolleyes:

Nifty:D

[sunyatta60]

THE MONEY SCAM
``Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would
be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.''
attributed to President Andrew Jackson, who in 1836 forced the closing of the Second Bank of the U.S. by revoking its charter

``Sound money and free banking are not impossible; they are merely illegal. Freedom of money and freedom of banking ... are the principles that must guide our steps.''
Hans F. Sennholz



``The Federal Reserve Banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers.''
Congressman Louis T. McFadden

``I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, ... The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply.''
Baron Nathan Mayer de Rothschild (1777-1836)

``All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.''
John Adams

``The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing.''
William Paterson, founder of the Bank of England, ca.1694

``The process by which banks create money is so simple that the mind is repelled.''
John Kenneth Galbraith

``Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws''
Mayer Amschel Rothschild

``Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.''
James A. Garfield

``The power to determine the quantity of money...is too important, too pervasive, to be exercised by a few people, however public-spirited, if there is any feasible alternative. There is no need for such arbitrary power ... Any system which gives so much power and so much discretion to a few men, [so] that mistakes - excusable or not - can have such far reaching effects, is a bad system. It is a bad system to believers in freedom just because it gives a few men such power without any effective check by the body politic - this is the key political argument against an independent central bank.''
Milton Friedman

``I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed.''
Abraham Lincoln, shortly before his assassination

``... the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.''
-Prof. Carroll Quigley, author of Tragedy and Hope (1966)

"I am now quite sure that Tragedy and Hope was suppressed although I do not know why or by whom"
Carroll Quigley, in a letter to a friend

[sunyatta60]

Some more :)

``Free lunch strategies have a habit of self-destructing. The Swiss economist Eugene Boehler had the context of such false and unsustainable images in mind when he noted that the `modern economy is as much a dream factory as Hollywood.' It is based only a small part on real needs, and for the greatest part on fantasy and myth, he claimed. The stock exchange, far from ruling economic life, is at the mercy of tides of collective make-believe. Depressions come about when there is a loss of economic myth (Eugene Boehler, Der Mythus in der Wirtschaft, Industrielle Organization,
XXXI, 1962.)''
J. Orlin Grabbe, from The Collapse of the New World Order

Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good.''
Thomas Sowell

``A depression is a large-scale decline in production and trade...there is nothing in the nature of a free-market economy to cause such an event.''
Nathaniel Branden's essay, Common Fallacies About Capitalism

``If we command our wealth, we shall be rich and free; if our wealth commands us, we are poor indeed.''
Edmund Burke

``I am myself persuaded, on the basis of extensive study of the historical evidence, that ... the severity of each of the contractions -- 1920-21; 1929-33, and 1937-38 -- is directly attributable to acts of commission and omission by the Reserve authorities and would not have occurred under earlier monetary and banking arrangements.''
Milton Friedman, Capitalism and Freedom, p.45

``...From now on depressions will be scientifically created.''
Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913, on the Federal Reserve Act

``To expose a 4.2 trillion dollar ripoff of the American people by the stockholders of the 1000 largest corporations over the last one-hundred years will be a tall order of business.''
Buckminister Fuller

``...the increase in the assets of the Federal Reserve Banks from 143 million dollars in 1913 to 45 billion dollars in 1949 went directly to the private stockholders of the [Federal Reserve] banks.''
Eustace Mullins, The Federal Reserve Conspiracy

``I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.''
Thomas Jefferson

``For the people in government, rather than the people who pester it, Washington is an early-rising, hard-working city. It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.''
P. J. O'Rourke (b. 1947), U.S. journalist. Parliament of Whores, "The Winners Go to Washington, D.C." (1991).

[Anders Lindman]

Info on the Wanta backgournd.
Seemingly owed to the Chinese:cool:

http://vigilantjingoist.blogspot.com/2007/11/criminal-collapse-of-citibank-and.html

I just dont know anymore:rolleyes:

Nifty:D

I was thinking, maybe the banksters around the world have started to fight each other. That would be a messy Titanic fight. lol. :D

[niftygifter]

I think it may come to that:rolleyes:

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/8824/print

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/8861/print

Nifty:D

[Anders Lindman]

Money today is essentially pure debt. Thus, the ACTUAL value of today's money depends on the ability of the debt to be paid.

To pay the debt, new money has to be created, but that only generates even more debt which has to be payed by generating even more money and so on in a vicious loop leading to an exponential growth of debt.

At some moment in time, the debt will be so huge that it will in practice not be possible to pay the debt fully any longer. At that moment the whole fractional reserve monetary system starts to collapse.

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Tis here.

Nifty;)

[synergy777]

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/161107_b_pound.htm

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/myth-strong-british-pound/story.aspx?guid=%7B731D3554-78C7-426B-A462-564CFF6B915B%7D

The myth of the strong British pound
Americans will find visiting the U.K. very expensive -- but not Europeans
By Steve Goldstein, MarketWatch

Last Update: 12:12 PM ET Nov 16,

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Ed Yardeni, the prominent U.S. economist, made a trip to Britain recently and was startled by the prices he saw.

"Here in London, my sense is that prices are about the same as in New York City, if the exchange rate were one-to-one," he told clients. "At two-to-one, everything really does seem twice as expensive."

In fact, sterling has traded as high as $2.11 this month, before coming off somewhat to the $2.04 level.

Fewer Americans are visiting England, British Airways (UK:BAY: news, chart, profile) has reported, while for U.K. tourists going on shopping sprees state-side, cable has rarely carried as much weight.

That's led many to consider the pound as strong.

Against other currencies, however, the U.K. currency has rarely been so weak.
The pound is exchanging hands at around 1.40 euros, its worst level in more than four years and close to all-time lows.

Australians with IT jobs in London find their earnings translate into the fewest dollars back in Sydney in a decade, with one pound fetching just under A$2.30.

Canadians have been pouring over the southern border to snap up cheap American goods, but if they visit England, they'll be able to make their most castle visits per loonie spent since 1994.

Local, global factors combine

The pound's weakness against certain currencies is caused by a variety of factors, some local and some global.

The Bank of England's warning this week that the risks to growth are greater than the risks of inflation put major pressure on the currency.

House-price growth is beginning to ebb, with one lender on Friday predicting no growth at all in 2008 because of a slowing economy, stretched affordability, tighter credit conditions and lower buy-to-let demand. See London markets.

Employment growth of 0.4% in the third quarter was well below the 10-year average, added economists at Lombard Street Research. And retail sales unexpectedly declined in October, according to data released Thursday.

The global unwinding of the carry trade -- in which investors borrow low-yielding currencies like the yen to reinvest in higher-yield currencies like the pound -- is also having an impact.

These trades are being cancelled as nervous traders move to curtail risk while banks worldwide report growing losses from the U.S. sub-prime mortgage turmoil.

"Right now it is clearly the (growing) Bank of England cut hopes that are driving sterling down and the unwinding of the carry trade," said Vincent Chaigneau, head of fixed income and currency strategy at Societe Generale in London.

With rate cuts widely expected next year, sterling -- which on a traded-weighed basis is hovering near five-year averages -- may have further room to fall.

That, paradoxically, could lead the Bank of England to curtail its rate-cut plan: the central bank would be wary of imported inflation.

Chaigneau said that's a risk, but not a likely one for now.

"The falling sterling could indeed limit the need for cuts at some point or could tie the bank's hands, but I think it would take a much bigger decline for that boomerang effect to play."

Steve Goldstein is MarketWatch's London bureau chief.


euro, amero are the way forward.

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Amero??
THe North American Union coin?
The Amero - North American Currency - YouTube

"Our currency will be replaced with the "Amero." And, we'll be one giant step closer to the U.N.'s perverse dream of a one-world government."

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/kirby062806.html
Hang on here!!!!!!


Another step to NWO....bingo!!!!!

WAKEY WAKEY!!!!!!
bottom of the page here..f'in disturbing.
euro, amero are the way forward.
Nifty:confused:

[niftygifter]

Check my last post here and look at the Error in there!
Where the F**k did that come from???????

"Error: unsupported media type.2 "Hang on here!!!!!!

Does this reflect a manipulation of text here, a genuine problem with the server or a censoring of info?
Food for thought?

HMMMM! :mad:

Nifty

[Anders Lindman]

Check my last post here and look at the Error in there!
Where the F**k did that come from???????

"Error: unsupported media type.2 "Hang on here!!!!!!

Does this reflect a manipulation of text here, a genuine problem with the server or a censoring of info?
Food for thought?

HMMMM! :mad:

Nifty

Replace the [ media ] tag with a [ url ] tag.

[sunyatta60]

``The Final Act of the Uruguay Round, marking the conclusion of the most ambitious trade negotiation of our century, will give birth - in Morocco - to the World Trade Organization, the third pillar of the New World Order, along with the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund.''
from a full-page advertisement by the government of Morocco, in the New York Times, April 1994

``Communism is not [and never was] a creation of the masses to overthrow the Banking establishment, but rather a creation of the Banking establishment to overthrow and enslave the people.''
Anthony J. Hilder

``There is no proletarian, not even a Communist movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, and for the time being permitted by money - and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact.''
Oswald Spengler, The Decline of the West

``Although Communism, like other `isms,' had origined with Marx's association with the House of Rothschild, it enlisted the reverent support of John D. Rockefeller because he saw Communism for what it is, the ultimate monopoly, not only controlling the government, the monetary system and all property, but also a monopoly which, like the corporations it emulates, is self-perpetuating and eternal. It was the logical progression from his Standard Oil monopoly.''
Eustace Mullins, chapter 10 (``The Rockefeller Syndicate''), of Murder by Injection

``These are the rules of big business. They have superseded the teachings of our parents and are reducible to a simple maxim: Get a monopoly; let Society work for you; and remember that the best of all business is politics, for a legislative grant, franchise, subsidy or tax exemption is worth more than a Kimberly or Comstock lode, since it does not require any labor, either mental or physical, for its exploitation.''
Frederick C. Howe, in Confessions of a Monopolist (1906)

``All who recall the condition of the country in 1890 will remember that there was everywhere, among the people generally, a deep feeling of unrest. The nation had been rid of human slavery - fortunately, as all now feel - but the conviction was universal that the country was in real danger from another kind of slavery sought to be fastened on the American people: namely, the slavery that would result from aggregations of capital in the hands of a few individuals and corporations controlling, for their own profit and advantage exclusively, the entire business of the country, including the production and sale of the necessities of life.''
-excerpt from the decision of the Court in Standard Oil of New Jersey v. United States, 221 U.S. 83 (1911)

``The smell of the Weimar Republic is in the air.''
Gore Vidal, from a 1996 speech at the National Press Club

[synergy777]

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Thought the subprime mess was bad? Wait till the accountants get involved
HARRY KOZA

'Fasbie, that's gonna be the next big thing." My interlocutor pointed his chopsticks at me to emphasize his point, "You just watch."Since he was talking while chewing on a mouthful of General Tso's Chicken, it sounded to me like he had said Frisbee, and I was pondering how best to break the news that they invented the Frisbee, like, back in the sixties, when I realized he was talking about FASB - the U.S. Federal Accounting Standards Board. You know, the guys who come up with the new accounting rules almost as fast as the Enrons and WorldComs find ways to circumvent them.

[inkaat]

Learn about the Messianic Law from this website ww etc messianiclaw.com click on Economics and study it. This website predicted the bank rip-offs and exactly how and and why it happens long ago.

[gold]

Learn about the Messianic Law from this website ww etc messianiclaw.com click on Economics and study it. This website predicted the bank rip-offs and exactly how and and why it happens long ago.

So where is this getting us! ZERO!

[synergy777]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/18/ccecon118.xml

An economy on the brink of snapping
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 18/11/2007

Talk of 'soft landings' or a 'happy handover' of growth from America typifies end-of-bull-market wishful thinking, says Tom Stevenson

It has been said that the road to every recession is signposted "soft landing". The end of this economic cycle looks like being no exception, even if the terminology is slightly different. This year's wishful thinking is dressed up as Goldman Sachs's "happy handover" or the ubiquitous "decoupling".

They are new tags, but the principle is the same. America's economy may be going to hell in a handcart - manufacturing slipped into recession again, new data showed on Friday - but the rest of the world will muddle through.

Global growth is slowing, but five years into the expansion it still looks robust - Tony Dolphin, a strategist at Henderson Global Investors, predicts 4.5 per cent next year for the world as a whole. That's down from last year's 5.6 per cent and 5.2 per cent in 2007 but still safely higher than the long-run trend.

The high-octane growth of China and India, however, disguises a gloomier outlook elsewhere. Henderson expects the US, Japan and Britain all to record growth rates of less than 2 per cent in 2008. In Europe too, the stranglehold of an overpriced currency will peg output growth to just 2 per cent.

Even these predictions may be too relaxed. Morgan Stanley said last week that there was a 40 per cent chance of recession in America.

"The real risk is that the current credit crunch and financial turmoil will lead to a US recession, which in turn drags down the rest of the world; and that the weak dollar and high oil price are too much for the European cycle," said Teun Draaisma, a strategist at the bank.

He is in good company. Alan Greenspan, the former Fed chairman, recently put the chance of economic contraction in the US at 30 per cent, while Bill Emmott, a former editor of the Economist, told a gathering of investors at Nomura last week that there was a 60 per cent chance of recession.

After a week of relentlessly depressing economic news, the doom-mongers' hand-wringing is understandable. An older adage is reappearing: it says that when America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold.

The sub-prime debris is already washing up on Britain's shores. Last week Barclays tried to draw a line under its exposure to the toxic waste of US mortgage derivatives. Putting a figure of £1.3bn on the damage scotched the wilder rumours, which suggested that the bank might be sitting on £10bn of losses. But question marks remain over how much more there might be to come or whether Barclays' assumptions were conservative enough.

A spike in Libor, the rate at which banks are prepared to lend to each other, showed that wholesale money markets remain almost as gummed up as they were at the height of the summer's credit crunch. Philip Shaw, the chief economist at Investec, warned that "things are likely to get tighter still in the run-up to Christmas".

At the heart of the now inevitable slowdown in Britain is the housing market, which has faced a barrage of bad news. On Friday Nationwide warned that house prices will stagnate next year.

"As we move into 2008, economic tailwinds are increasingly being replaced by headwinds," says Fionnuala Earley, Nationwide's chief economist. "A slowing economy, tighter credit conditions, stretched affordability for first-time buyers and lower house price expectations appear likely to reduce the level of activity."

Earlier, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors' housing survey showed sharp falls in price expectations and the numbers of new buyers and completed sales. Kelvin Davidson, Capital Economics' property economist, says the figures "clearly point to a housing market that is feeling the strain from past interest rate rises". He adds: "Our central expectation is that annual house price growth will turn negative next year."

Michael Saunders, an economist at Citigroup, points to a strong historical link between slowing housing demand and retail sales. He believes that the recent 0.1 per cent drop in retail sales volumes, the first since last November, is the start of a trend.

"We expect a further marked slowdown in the trend of retail sales growth in the coming months," he says. "Retail sales volumes fell month on month in six of the 12 months ended August 2005, after the last housing slowdown."

The government retail sales figures chimed with data from the British Retail Consortium, which showed a sharp fall in the annual growth rate of like-for-like sales values from 3 per cent to 1 per cent in October. Unexpectedly strong consumer spending over the summer has hit the buffers spectacularly.

Other recent data show that the slowdown is not restricted to housing and the high street. There was a 0.6 per cent fall in manufacturing output in September, while a 0.4 per cent slide in industrial production meant there was no growth at all in the third quarter. Meanwhile Britain's trade deficit hit a record in September as imports rose by 2.4 per cent but exports fell by 1 per cent.

Against such a gloomy backdrop it is little wonder that the Bank of England's quarterly Inflation Report last Wednesday should have struck such a downbeat tone. The Bank forecast that economic growth would slow from 2.6 per cent to 2.4 per cent, but even that weak performance assumed interest rates coming down by 0.75 percentage points by the beginning of 2009.

At the time of the last Inflation Report the Bank was more worried about inflation than growth and the market concluded that interest rates would rise to 6 per cent from the current 5.75 per cent. Now rates of 5 per cent seem baked into the Bank's forecasts, a huge swing in sentiment in just three months.

Yet despite the change of emphasis, the fear of rising prices refuses to lie down. With oil flirting with the psychologically important level of $100 a barrel and food prices rising steadily higher, the spectre of stagflation has returned to haunt the British economy 30 years after it last stalked the country.

Producer output prices rose by 3.8 per cent in October, a 12-year high, pushed up by sharply higher energy and food costs. There was an 8.5 per cent year-on-year rise in input costs, putting pressure on manufacturers to pass on higher prices to consumers.

It all adds up to a headache for policymakers and a dilemma for investors, who have seen share prices shake off the credit market turmoil with unexpected panache. Morgan Stanley's Draaisma thinks there is "a growing risk that this decade's bull market is ending", although he doubts that it will end like the 1990s bubble with a blow-up and subsequent bear market.

"The end of this cycle may well be more like the one before. There are many similarities between the end of the 1980s and now, including a junk bond crisis and overvalued real estate" he concludes.

Between 1989 and 1993 stock markets in Europe simply moved sideways. A whimper rather than a bang - or is that just another piece of wishful thinking?

[synergy777]

Dump the Dollar, China State TV Tells Viewers

Reuters
Go To Original

Chinese lunchtime television on Friday gave ordinary people a basic tip on how to play the currency markets: sell the dollar!

A state news program, quoting unnamed "wealth management experts," told residents with dollar accounts on the mainland to convert their holdings into yuan or a range of other foreign currencies, including the pound and the euro.

The prospect of ordinary Chinese ditching the dollar should be less alarming than reports that have roiled global markets of Beijing diversifying its official foreign exchange reserves.

Whereas China's official reserves of more than $1.4 trillion are the world's biggest, private foreign currency deposits in China are a fraction that size: $162.1 billion at the end of October, according to People's Bank of China.

The central bank did not give a currency breakdown of these deposits.

Three Solutions to Dollar Weakness

The state news program, which did not quote any government official, said people were getting squeezed because the pace of yuan appreciation against the dollar was greater than the interest rate earned domestically on dollar accounts.

Analysts expect the yuan to rise anywhere from 5 to 7 percent annually against the dollar, while domestic dollar accounts earn depositors just 3 percent a year.

The program proposed three solutions.

"Selling dollar for yuan as soon as possible may be a safe approach," the news program said, adding the yuan could then be used to invest in domestic mutual funds.

"Secondly, you can change the dollar into strengthening currencies," it continued. "Currently, the U.S. dollar is falling against the euro , the British pound , the Australian dollar and the Canadian dollar , and you can change the dollar into these currencies for deposits."

The third recommended strategy was to invest the dollars abroad, in search of higher yields, by buying into Qualified Domestic Institutional Investor (QDII) products offered by Chinese banks and fund managers.

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This plot now thickens significantly, it ties in the atrocities of 911 to the theft of this money as a cover, is this the start of the downfall of the Cabal?

http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_888.shtml

Oh Blair and Brown get a mention ;-)

Thoughts?

Updates: http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1195431971

Nifty:cool:

[sunyatta60]

Banks,Taxes, Money

``The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.''
Frederic Bastiat

``If Patrick Henry thought that taxation without representation was bad, he should see how bad it is with representation.''
The Old Farmer's Almanac

``Once politics become a tug-of-war for shares in the income pie, decent government is impossible.''
Friedrich A. Hayek

``In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other.''
Voltaire

``Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.''
H.L. Mencken

``Being elected to Congress is regarded as being sent on a looting raid for one's friends.''
George F. Will, Newsweek

``No man's life, liberty or property are safe while the legislature is in session.''
Gideon J. Tucker, NY State Court judge, 1866

``No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent.''
John Jay, Address to the People of Britain, 1774

``Unconscionability has generally been recognized to include an absence of
meaningful choice on the part of one of the parties together with contract terms which are unreasonably favorable to the other party.''
Judge Wright (use of US paper money and private credit, checking, and savings services, is a voluntary act (without which one is inconvenienced to a degree most Americans cannot imagine), and constitutes agreement to the contract that renders the user liable for income taxes)
``If taxes are laid upon us without our having a legal representation where they are laid, we are reduced from the character of free subjects to the state of tributary slaves.''
Sam Adams

``In other words, governments do not collect taxes to provide services, they provide services as an excuse to collect taxes.''
Richard J. Maybury, Whatever Happened to Justice?

``The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax.''
Albert Einstein

[synergy777]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/171107collapse.htm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/17/cndollar117.xml

Saudi minister warns of dollar collapse

Edmund Conway
London Telegraph
Saturday November 17, 2007

The dollar could collapse if Opec officially admits considering changing the pricing of oil into alternative currencies such as the euro, the Saudi Arabian foreign minister has warned.

Prince Saud Al-Faisal was overheard ruling out a proposal from Iran and Venezuela to discuss pricing crude in a private meeting at the oil cartel's conference.

In an embarrassing blunder at the meeting in Riyadh, ministers' microphones were not cut off during a key closed meeting, and Prince Al-Faisal was heard saying: "My feeling is that the mere mention that the Opec countries are studying the issue of the dollar is itself going to have an impact that endangers the interests of the countries

"There will be journalists who will seize on this point and we don't want the dollar to collapse instead of doing something good for Opec."

After around 40 minutes press officials cut off the feed, which had been accidentally broadcast to the press room.

Prince Al-Faisal added: "This is not new. We have done this in the past: decide to study something without putting down on paper that we are going to study it so that we avoid any implication that will bring adverse effects on our countries' finances."

Iran and Venezuela have argued that the meeting's final communique should voice concern about the level of the dollar, which has recently fallen to new record lows against the euro. They are pushing for oil to be denominated against a basket of currencies.

The greenback also weakened slightly against the pound, although sterling's own recent weakness has pushed it down from $2.10 to $2.0457 during the week.

Nigerian finance minister Shamsuddeen Usman said that Opec could declare in the communique that: "While underlining our concern for the continued depreciation of the dollar and its adverse impact on our revenues, we instruct our finance ministers to study the issue exhaustively and advise us on ways to safeguard the purchasing power of our revenues, of our members' revenues."

Chancellor Alistair Darling will today urge his fellow finance ministers at a major G20 summit to increase investment in oil production and refinement.

[celtic isis]

The massive ongoing Fraud Expose in America with literally Trillions of dollars being stolen from everyone on the planet is slowly uncovering.

The deception of the Bush family, Clintons and the majority of their puppets is slowly being "revealed"
The media still continue to keep wraps on this but are slowly losing their grip also;)
You can see the efects on the markets if you look closely enough, it really is happening.
The Provost Marshall is arresting people from all the major banks. In order to elect a Provost Marshall, this must be done by a World court, he also has the power to arrest the President and anyone else that stands in his way. These powers have already been exercised. The use of a Provost Marshall within the USA is unprecedented and shows how dire the circumstance are with the finance markets.

Please read the latest reports and show anyone you know of in the banking business what is exactly happening:cool: THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
If this continues there WILL be a Global Financial disaster coupled with World financial collapse. The result of which could result in large scale inter country warrings. Nearly every single country on the planet is involved here:eek:

You can read the latest and all earlier reports from insider good guys in America here:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=7496429eb197c1f6f61ec00c93f4ad9a

Nifty:mad:


thanks for posting this niftygifter :) great info and of course what you said in the last bit there, this is exactly what the dilluminated ones want, for a complete collapse of well just about everything on the planet and soon so they can have their NWO quick sharpish.

damn i'm itching to pass it on but i can't no one talks to me anymore out of all my contacts :(:mad:

they'll have to just wake up by themselves i'm afraid lol but i might stick in on another forum, i mean use it as part of the info, is that ok?

ps: you get the prize for best name ever :D haha nifty :cool:

[synergy777]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aN.FfcMPXR10&refer=home

Arabs' Dollar Losses Increase Pressure to Sever Pegs (Update4)

By Matthew Brown and Aaron Pan

Nov. 19 (Bloomberg) -- When central bankers in the Middle East say they have no plans to end their fixed exchange rates to the dollar, the currency market hears the opposite.

Merrill Lynch & Co. predicts either the United Arab Emirates or Qatar will cut their dollar peg within half a year. Standard Chartered Plc says the six Gulf Cooperation Council nations need to raise the value of their currencies 20 percent. The difference between the price of the Saudi Arabian riyal and the cost of buying it in a year using forward contracts has widened 10-fold since October as traders bet the kingdom will sever its 21-year-old link to the dollar, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

``The dollar peg is doomed,'' said Jim Rogers, chairman of New York-based Rogers Holdings and a former partner of hedge fund manager George Soros.

The gulf countries, which supply 22.2 percent of the world's oil, according to BP Plc, are under pressure to abandon their fixed exchange rates after the dollar tumbled 10 percent against the euro in 2007. OPEC members Venezuela and Iran want to price more crude in other currencies. Inflation in the region is accelerating at the fastest pace in at least five years because central banks follow U.S. Federal Reserve policy.

The ties are already weakening. Kuwait dropped the dinar's fixed exchange rate in May and it has strengthened 4.5 percent.

Saudi Policy

U.A.E. central bank Governor Sultan Bin Nasser al-Suwaidi said last week that his country, a federation of sheikhdoms, may change its policy. The plan is ``not to drop the dollar peg but maybe to reduce it to a basket which will consist of more dollars, but not totally 100 percent,'' he said in an interview in Gwacheon, South Korea.

Gulf states will jointly discuss a proposal to revalue their currencies at a summit in Doha, Qatar, on Dec. 3-4, the secretary general of the Gulf Cooperation Council, Abdul Rahman al-Attiyah, told reporters yesterday in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Bahrain, Oman and Kuwait are also members of the council, known as the GCC.

Saudi officials rejected a suggestion by Iran and Venezuela to discuss ending the practice of pricing crude in dollars at an Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries summit in Riyadh yesterday. The declining dollar's effect on oil revenues overshadowed Saudi attempts to highlight environmental issues.

``The dollar is in free fall, everyone should be worried about it,'' Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said yesterday. ``The fall of the dollar is not the fall of the dollar, it's the fall of the American empire.''

`Worthless'

Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil exporter, doesn't want the U.S. currency to ``collapse,'' and won't consider the proposal, Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal said at a meeting of oil and finance ministers that was accidentally broadcast to journalists.

``They get our oil and give us a worthless piece of paper,'' said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday. ``The dollar has no economic value.''

The U.S. Dollar Index, which measures its performance against six trading partners, has fallen 9.4 percent this year to a record low. The dollar rose 0.2 percent today to $1.4633 to the euro and fell 0.6 percent to 110.42 yen.

The fact that the link is being debated at all is a reflection of the weakening dollar and the decline of U.S. political and economic dominance. The currency accounted for 64.8 percent of world reserves at the end of June, down from 72.6 percent in 2001, according to the International Monetary Fund in Washington.

Alexander the Great

Abandoning the peg would risk driving prices higher for Americans, the biggest oil consumers. Oil rose 55 percent this year and was at $94.66 a barrel in New York today. It hit a record high of $98.62 on Nov. 7.

Reducing their dependence would also mark the increased wealth and power of oil producers. The GCC has never had an independent monetary policy. Before pegging currencies to the U.S., much of the region was under British influence and used the gulf rupee issued by the Reserve Bank of India and linked to the British pound. The U.A.E. dirham inherited its name from the Greek drachma, introduced in the Middle East in the third century B.C. by Alexander the Great.

The GCC hasn't been given new incentives to preserve fixed rates other than statements by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson that the U.S. supports a ``strong dollar.'' The government hasn't intervened in the market to influence exchange rates since September 2003, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York said in a quarterly report to Congress on Nov. 8.

`A Dangerous Game'

U.S. policy makers are ``playing a dangerous game by allowing the dollar to depreciate so much,'' said Phil McHugh, a trader at Currencies Direct Ltd., an investment management company in London that oversees $2 billion. GCC officials would make ``a big statement'' if they revalue, he said.

If the GCC weakens its ties, oil producers will have less reason to recycle their revenue into dollar assets. OPEC members increased their holdings of Treasuries by 14 percent this year through September to $125.7 billion, Treasury data show.

Petroleum exporters are buying U.S. bonds three times faster than other foreign investors, the data show. Yields on 10-year notes are 21 basis points lower because of petrodollars, New York-based consulting company McKinsey & Co. said last month. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point. The 10-year note yield was at 4.16 percent.

``Government institutions and residents would likely move assets out of dollars into alternative currencies,'' said Tristan Cooper, senior sovereign analyst for ratings company Moody's Investors Service in Dubai.

Peg `Review'

The widening difference between prices for riyal and dirhams in the so-called spot market and the cost to buy them in a year shows traders expect the links to weaken.

Contracts to buy dirhams in 12 months rose 0.6 percent on Nov. 15, the most in 10 years, after al-Suwaidi, the central bank governor, said the dollar decline will trigger a ``review'' of the peg. The contracts traded at 3.58 per dollar today, compared with the currency's spot market rate of 3.6713, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

The Saudi riyal rose as much as 0.8 percent to 3.7118 today, its biggest one-day advance since 1989, before paring its gain to 0.2 percent. Contracts to buy riyals in 12 months time rose as much as 0.9 percent to 3.66.

Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency Governor Hamad Saud al-Sayari said in an interview in Kleinmond, South Africa, yesterday that the issue of revaluation had been discussed by Gulf central bank governors a few weeks ago and ``we came up and said `no change in policies.' That is the agreement of the whole group.''

Wealthier Than Ever

Oil exporters are wealthier than ever after prices more than quadrupled since 2001. Crude averaged about $20 a barrel in the previous two decades. The IMF forecasts 5.6 percent economic growth in the gulf region for 2007, almost triple the 1.9 percent in the U.S.

Saudi foreign currency reserves increased 26 percent in the year to Sept. 30 to 969 billion riyals ($259 billion), according to the central bank. The U.A.E.'s reserves jumped 65 percent in year ended in June to 159 billion dirhams ($43 billion).

Faster growth and rising import prices caused by the sinking dollar are spurring inflation. Saudi Arabia's consumer prices rose at a record 4.9 percent pace in August, after averaging less than 1 percent over the last decade, government figures show. Inflation quickened at a 9.3 percent rate in the U.A.E. last year and reached an all-time high in Qatar of 14.8 percent during the first quarter.

Fed Rate Cuts

Gulf central banks can't raise borrowing costs to cool their economies because they must follow the Fed to maintain their pegs. U.S. policy makers reduced the target rate for overnight loans between banks twice since September to prevent the worst housing slump in 16 years from dragging the economy into recession.

``We will have more rate cuts by the Fed, more dollar weakness and probably still higher oil prices,'' said Hans- Guenter Redeker, head of currency strategy in London at BNP Paribas SA, France's largest bank. The chances that GCC nations get ``into a kind of boom-bust scenario is increasing, so it's urgently required to change that mechanism,'' he said.

Any shift to a floating exchange rate would hurt petrochemical and non-oil manufacturing exports, said A.F. Alhajji, an energy economist and associate professor of economics at Ohio Northern University in Ada, Ohio. Saudi Arabia will be reluctant to make pilgrimages to Mecca more expensive for the world's Muslims, he added.

Political Backlash

``Politically, there could be a backlash,'' he said. ``The people who will benefit the most will be foreign workers in Saudi Arabia.''

The dirham link was picked by 11 of 15 strategists and fund managers in a Bloomberg News survey as the most-likely to break. Qatar's riyal was chosen by three analysts and the Saudi Riyal by one. Bahrain's dinar was one analyst's second choice.

Gulf central banks are already preparing for an exchange rate regime that doesn't require dollars to defend.

The U.A.E.'s al-Suwaidi said his bank has a target of moving 10 percent of its reserves into euros and has ``already diversified to some extent.'' The $50 billion Qatar Investment Authority said Sept. 4 it was looking to buy assets in Asia to counter a weak dollar.

Scrapping the peg ``would further undermine the dollar,'' said Michael Hughes, who helps manage about $40 billion as chief investment officer at Baring Asset Management in London. ``There's no doubting that the events of the last few months have shifted the debate about what the appropriate monetary order should be worldwide.''

To contact the reporters on this story: Matthew Brown in Dubai at o mbrown42@bloomberg.net ; Aaron Pan in Hong Kong at Apan8@bloomberg.net .

Last Updated: November 19, 2007 05:40 EST

[celtic isis]

This plot now thickens significantly, it ties in the atrocities of 911 to the theft of this money as a cover, is this the start of the downfall of the Cabal?

http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_888.shtml

Oh Blair and Brown get a mention ;-)

Thoughts?

Updates: http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1195431971

Nifty:cool:


here's hoping :)

[niftygifter]

Post it anywhere you desire Celtic;)

Nifty:D

[celtic isis]

Post it anywhere you desire Celtic;)

Nifty:D

awww thanks nifty :) that's really kool! :cool:

[niftygifter]

http://www.worldreports.org/news/97_citibank_defies__the

Not for much Longer, here comes the provost Marshall:p

It is interesting that the massive theft here concerns a link to the 911 atrocity, which will shortly be revealed :o


Nifty:D

[niftygifter]

For anyone doubting these facts and also that the source of which "is just after money", should read the summary linked below.

As everyone of us struggle daily to make ends meet, through illness, stress and suffering, through harassment beyond reason and through taxation beyond death, the real picture here is emerging and can account for some of the major reasons why we are enslaved today;)

Whether this is Illuminati phase 1 or 2 doesnt matter, whether we have been fed fluoride to dumb us all down, it doesnt matter, whether we have been sold right down the river, it doesnt matter.
Slowly but surely the Illuminati grip is slackening, Citibank and Morgan Stanley are just about to topple, despite the frantic attempts at monsterous bribes to everyone attempting to investigate this theft.
What these dumb shits dont realise, is that unlike them, the rest of the whole planet are not really interested in untold wealth and control, we are interested in a society of caring, equal wealth, support and basic Love. We are also human beings and individuals with rights, not “the plebs of no consequence” other than for paying taxes and dying for our country.

The one man standing out in this enlightenment, because this truly is an enlightenment, is a true planetary “Lightworker” - Christopher Story - Here are the records of every transaction accounting for this Humanity theft (it actually is a theft from humanity).This will be a fundamental part of the process in the downfall and erasure of these people from the World systems that hold us in bondage. Dont anyone tell me he is doing it for money and the fact he has a "click on button for donations", NOBODY goes to this amount of detail or amount of research in any hoax, nor receives the amount of praise of insiders out there in the American mess.

It also enlightens everyone (or it should do) to the fact that there is no longer any real truth whatsoever in every national and international newspaper, nor is there any real truth in any TV news media or channel. Of course what we DO recognise, is that every single Editor and TV Chief are inextricably linked to these frauds, in the fact that they fail to disclose information very pertinent to the safety and well being of humanity itself, in essence shafting their own families and friends, as well as every person they rip off selling papers full of lies. You know who you are and interestingly, so do we.

It also reveals the real reasons behind the 911 atrocity and what lengths these "people" will go to, to gain more and more money at the expense of anyone and everything that stands in their way. Its nothing to do with Terrorism, but everything to do with greed and control. However for them, at least it has some great side benefits, we blame the Muslims (some of the most peaceful and benevolent people of the planet), we conjure up names from hats, most of which are still alive, name and shame them as the perpetrators, create deeper voids and greater control, meanwhile all our companies benefit in the process.
There are three typical categories that people are thrown into if they “get in the way”. It is so repetitive and easy to spot. They “committed suicide” (failure to report what we require), they are branded “a Pedophile” (suddenly loads of child porn pictures on their hard drives) or they simply disappear.

So if we take for example the tragic loss of life in 911 and the suffering of every family related to those losses and also every friend and human being on the planet who cared about those people who died there, it brings into perspective the type of people we are dealing with. They are nothing short of a Nazi regime under the cover of bullshit, controlled media and lies. This is also linked to arrogance beyond comprehension to most normal people. However we are not dealing with normal people here.

Don’t be fooled though, that the newly elected PM for the UK old Brownfinger is any different, it really doesn’t matter who is in power, they will all be required to sit with the Bilderbergers for assessment before election and this also goes for each and every head of MI5 and MI6 as well. Control the plebs and feed constant bullshit to their already dumbed down minds.
As for the old PM for the UK - Billy Liar, well he couldn’t wait to get out of this country, the real reason, of course is that there was a possibility of arrest while he remained here, but of course now he is safe, bless.

It doesn’t take much realization, when you stop and think 60 million people, where is all that tax money going??
France has a stunning road system, in excellent condition, at nearly five times the size of UK but the same population, fuel there is some 20-30p cheaper per litre, where is the money going?

Health system promises for decades, cures for cancers hidden constantly, useless vaccinations forcibly given. Follow the money.

This is our planetary lesson, how greedy have we become? We wander aimlessly every weekend around the shops, looking for something to buy to satisfy our needs? We don’t need anything other than the realization that we are truly suppressed.

This is the start of the downfall, these banks will go and the great cover up is about to unfold.

This is why its called the age of revealing, its our wake up call.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1195598344

Our Illustrious Government involvement
http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2007/07/nesara-announcement-expected-in-run-up.html


Nifty:D

[niftygifter]

NOW A FULL BLOWN AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS!!

Unbelievable arrogance and affront here!!!

http://www.worldreports.org/news/98_wantas_tax_1.575_div

This now has to break into the media, there is NO way this can be hidden any further.

God help the Americans.

Nifty:D

[synergy777]

http://www.theledger.com/article/20071115/ZNYT01/711150626/1001/BUSINESS

Published: Thursday, November 15, 2007

The Firm With a Shadow That Extends Far Past Wall St.
MICHAEL J. de la MERCED

As John A. Thain prepares to take the reins of Merrill Lynch, he is only the latest example of a tradition borne out across Wall Street, in Washington and around the world. He is a Goldman Sachs alumnus who has reached the top elsewhere.

For decades, one investment bank in Lower Manhattan has churned out a golden list of corporate executives and statesmen, wealthy financiers and nonprofit managers.

In many ways, Goldman Sachs is seen as the financial world’s equivalent of General Electric, the corporate powerhouse, or McKinsey & Company, the management consulting firm. It is a training ground — and finishing school —from which other companies, along with quite a few governments, have frequently plucked their own top leaders.

And it has seeded some of the most successful private investment funds, many of them extending Goldman’s shadow from Greenwich, Conn., to London and beyond.

Goldman claims among its alumni Henry M. Paulson Jr., the current Treasury secretary; Robert E. Rubin, a Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton and now Citigroup’s chairman; and Mario Draghi, the Bank of Italy’s governor. Jon S. Corzine, New Jersey’s governor, led Goldman for several years. Joshua B. Bolten, the current White House chief of staff, is a Goldman alum.

Mr. Thain, who left Goldman as president and chief operating officer to take over the troubled New York Stock Exchange and now Merrill, falls squarely in that tradition.

To insiders, all this is a result of Goldman’s elite culture, a sense of close-knit partnership that has endured despite the firm’s decision in 1999 to turn itself into a publicly owned corporation. To detractors, the firm is alternately a cult or a secretive fraternity like Skull and Bones at Yale, one focused on profits and power.

The bottom line on Goldman is that it is stocked with bright people who practically mint money. Even as the implosion of the subprime mortgage market forced many of its rivals to take multibillion-dollar write-downs this summer, to cite just the most recent example, Goldman reported a 79 percent increase in profit.

“It’s a partnership culture that truly ruthlessly weeds out people,” said Brad Hintz, a research analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein who has worked for two Goldman rivals, Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers. “It’s the most elite group.”

Goldman is a perennial leader in the lucrative practice of advising on mergers and acquisitions. Its few recent mistakes, including troubles at several internal hedge funds, are subsumed by its eye-popping financial results.

That same pursuit of excellence — and money — is woven into the firm’s genetic code, outsiders and insiders alike say. Becoming a partner there is a more trying process than at other firms, including 9 to 12 years of evaluations known as 360-degree reviews and competition against an array of the best and the brightest, not just from the Ivy League and top business schools but diamonds in the rough from state universities as well.

Unlike its peers, Goldman has not suffered from disruptive events that altered its core culture. Even after going public, it has retained a partnership-like structure, and it has not undergone any transformative mergers like the union of Morgan Stanley and Dean Witter Reynolds. It has never been subsumed by a larger conglomerate, diluting its importance and reducing its top executives to middle managers.

Nor has it had a leader like E. Stanley O’Neal, Mr. Thain’s predecessor at Merrill, who actively worked to change that firm’s “Mother Merrill” image.

Goldman Sachs’ record is not unblemished. Its role in advising the New York Stock Exchange and Archipelago in their merger drew accusations of a conflict of interest. The firm’s own acquisition of Spear, Leeds & Kellogg, a market maker, for $7.4 billion was seen as a costly mistake.

Goldman is also known for its insularity. Roy C. Smith, a professor of finance at the Stern School of Business at New York University and a former Goldman executive, noted that relatively few employees defect to rivals. Those who do take positions at other firms, like Mr. Thain and Mr. Rubin, usually stop over at neutral ground first.

The firm also has a tradition in which partners are encouraged to leave at a relatively young age after making more than enough money to live well for the rest of their lives. There is another way of looking at it. Many of Goldman’s most successful traders and executives are still in their prime when they depart, unquestionably wealthy and undoubtedly self-assured. If they do not reach the top of the firm, one question is left, What’s next?

“The idea is that there’s a certain amount of turnover at the top,” Mr. Smith said. “There has always been a ready chain of people behind them.”

Goldman can afford to lose some of its best people because it fosters a deep managerial bench and gives a heavy emphasis to personal coaching. Those among its ranks anointed as future leaders attend special seminars. Even those who leave the firm to run less managerial businesses — hedge fund executives like Edward S. Lampert, Eric Mindich and Daniel Och — were instilled with the notion that success comes from building a team.

Last modified: November 15. 2007 12:00AM

[niftygifter]

Even though this report was prepared yesterday, there are some significant updates to the incredible world theft at Citibank. The total and current destabilisation of the World economy is due to this.
The interesting thing here is that it is still to be kept under wraps by the Media:cool:

"EVEN THOUGH THE 'MEDIA' HAS BEEN TOLD NOT TO COVER IT. ":eek:

Why the hell should it be, this affects humanity for Christs sake!!!

http://www.worldreports.org/news/98_wantas_tax_1.575_div


Nifty:D

[gold]

Remember the Rothschild's saying 'Give me control of one country's money, and I care not who makes the laws'

[nickatnoon61]

For anyone doubting these facts and also that the source of which "is just after money", should read the summary linked below.

As everyone of us struggle daily to make ends meet, through illness, stress and suffering, through harassment beyond reason and through taxation beyond death, the real picture here is emerging and can account for some of the major reasons why we are enslaved today;)

Whether this is Illuminati phase 1 or 2 doesnt matter, whether we have been fed fluoride to dumb us all down, it doesnt matter, whether we have been sold right down the river, it doesnt matter.
Slowly but surely the Illuminati grip is slackening, Citibank and Morgan Stanley are just about to topple, despite the frantic attempts at monsterous bribes to everyone attempting to investigate this theft.
What these dumb shits dont realise, is that unlike them, the rest of the whole planet are not really interested in untold wealth and control, we are interested in a society of caring, equal wealth, support and basic Love. We are also human beings and individuals with rights, not “the plebs of no consequence” other than for paying taxes and dying for our country.

The one man standing out in this enlightenment, because this truly is an enlightenment, is a true planetary “Lightworker” - Christopher Story - Here are the records of every transaction accounting for this Humanity theft (it actually is a theft from humanity).This will be a fundamental part of the process in the downfall and erasure of these people from the World systems that hold us in bondage. Dont anyone tell me he is doing it for money and the fact he has a "click on button for donations", NOBODY goes to this amount of detail or amount of research in any hoax, nor receives the amount of praise of insiders out there in the American mess.

It also enlightens everyone (or it should do) to the fact that there is no longer any real truth whatsoever in every national and international newspaper, nor is there any real truth in any TV news media or channel. Of course what we DO recognise, is that every single Editor and TV Chief are inextricably linked to these frauds, in the fact that they fail to disclose information very pertinent to the safety and well being of humanity itself, in essence shafting their own families and friends, as well as every person they rip off selling papers full of lies. You know who you are and interestingly, so do we.

It also reveals the real reasons behind the 911 atrocity and what lengths these "people" will go to, to gain more and more money at the expense of anyone and everything that stands in their way. Its nothing to do with Terrorism, but everything to do with greed and control. However for them, at least it has some great side benefits, we blame the Muslims (some of the most peaceful and benevolent people of the planet), we conjure up names from hats, most of which are still alive, name and shame them as the perpetrators, create deeper voids and greater control, meanwhile all our companies benefit in the process.
There are three typical categories that people are thrown into if they “get in the way”. It is so repetitive and easy to spot. They “committed suicide” (failure to report what we require), they are branded “a Pedophile” (suddenly loads of child porn pictures on their hard drives) or they simply disappear.

So if we take for example the tragic loss of life in 911 and the suffering of every family related to those losses and also every friend and human being on the planet who cared about those people who died there, it brings into perspective the type of people we are dealing with. They are nothing short of a Nazi regime under the cover of bullshit, controlled media and lies. This is also linked to arrogance beyond comprehension to most normal people. However we are not dealing with normal people here.

Don’t be fooled though, that the newly elected PM for the UK old Brownfinger is any different, it really doesn’t matter who is in power, they will all be required to sit with the Bilderbergers for assessment before election and this also goes for each and every head of MI5 and MI6 as well. Control the plebs and feed constant bullshit to their already dumbed down minds.
As for the old PM for the UK - Billy Liar, well he couldn’t wait to get out of this country, the real reason, of course is that there was a possibility of arrest while he remained here, but of course now he is safe, bless.

It doesn’t take much realization, when you stop and think 60 million people, where is all that tax money going??
France has a stunning road system, in excellent condition, at nearly five times the size of UK but the same population, fuel there is some 20-30p cheaper per litre, where is the money going?

Health system promises for decades, cures for cancers hidden constantly, useless vaccinations forcibly given. Follow the money.

This is our planetary lesson, how greedy have we become? We wander aimlessly every weekend around the shops, looking for something to buy to satisfy our needs? We don’t need anything other than the realization that we are truly suppressed.

This is the start of the downfall, these banks will go and the great cover up is about to unfold.

This is why its called the age of revealing, its our wake up call.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1195598344

Our Illustrious Government involvement
http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2007/07/nesara-announcement-expected-in-run-up.html


Nifty:D
Great and accurate commentary Nifty!!!! It is the same on this side of the ocean!!!! cheers :)

[gold]

What does an animal do with a £50 note?

[niftygifter]

ATM units are being replaced all over the USA as the World fraud is exposed and weeded out.:eek:

The Provost Marshall is allegedly "arrested" and special forces are being called in to control this situation.
Citibank bosses now arrested.

http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_937.shtml

How long can this go on UNREPORTED!!!

The media closedown is staggering on this and just exposes THEM as accomplices in the whole scandal.:mad:

Worth keeping track of, seriously.

Nifty:D

[Anders Lindman]

ATM units are being replaced all over the USA as the World fraud is exposed and weeded out.:eek:

The Provost Marshall is allegedly "arrested" and special forces are being called in to control this situation.
Citibank bosses now arrested.

http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_937.shtml

How long can this go on UNREPORTED!!!

The media closedown is staggering on this and just exposes THEM as accomplices in the whole scandal.:mad:

Worth keeping track of, seriously.

Nifty:D

Sorry I don't buy it. The "Make a Donation" crap doesn't ring true.

[niftygifter]

Anders,
Make a donation is voluntary:rolleyes:

Its not pay to view and if you read this "properly", no one in their right mind wold go to this length as a hoax, do you seriously believe that?????

Nifty:eek:

[Anders Lindman]

Anders,
Make a donation is voluntary:rolleyes:

Its not pay to view and if you read this "properly", no one in their right mind wold go to this length as a hoax, do you seriously believe that?????

Nifty:eek:

Yes I do believe it's a scam. You can feel it in your bones, can't you?

[niftygifter]

So how much do you think he is "Raking in" then thousands per week, millions per year from a "Make a donation" button??...FFS!!!!

Nearly every website out there has a make a donation button its how they pay for server costs.

http://www.worldreports.org/

I havent donated and I doubt whether anyone else reading this thread has, so this poor guy wont have much bread on the table will he?
Look at the length of reporting (not each report, but the whole story) and then think what can he possibly get from this and a "donation button"??


This is the source, he is a very highly regarded truth seeker with much admiration and current support from insiders over the pond.

He is reporting and more importantly logging the REAL truth.
He has every move logged in this fraud and "I feel this in my bones", it will be used to bring these people down.:cool:

Time will tell.

Nifty:D

[Anders Lindman]

Time will tell.


I don't need time for that. Well, maybe. If the information turns up to be correct then that will be the second miracle since Jesus Christ walked on water carrying an anti-grav belt. ;):D

[niftygifter]

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1195753018


Nifty;)

[Anders Lindman]

Nearly every website out there has a make a donation button its how they pay for server costs.


1.25 euro per month. What's that? 2 dollars per month. It's not likely that donations would be needed for such small amount.

http://www.one.com/en

But to be fair, if Christopher Story wants to make a living of his website, then of course donations could help with that.

[niftygifter]

It is Apparent that the collapse of Citibank and Morgan Stanley are imminent,allegedly.:eek:

These are relevant extracts from this latest report.

Citibank and Morgan Stanley are mired in a criminal conspiracy with the USA Treasury and the USA White House which will result in the arrest, in the USA, of William R. Rhodes (Chairman of Citigroup), John Mack (Chairman of Morgan Stanley) and Henry Paulson (USA Treasury Secretary).

Now that this matter is in the public domain, it is possible that the affair will bring down not just Citibank, Morgan Stanley and their auditors, but also the American Stock Market and the White House.

The whole operation is being funded and authorised by the World Court. This is The International Court of Justice based in The Hague (Netherlands). European involvement in what, at surface level, appears to be an American banking problem seems curious. But the Citibank scandal is about international financial fraud. And the USA's historical connections with The British Crown are still legally potent. The British Crown includes the Queen of England, but is much bigger than her. It is a covert financial cartel which embraces the British and European aristocracy, Rothschild bankers and pan-global Jewish finance. Based in the City of London and in the upper echelons of the United Grand Lodge of England (the mother lodge of world freemasonry), The British Crown is sometimes referred to as "The Club of the Isles" or as "The Crown Temple". The foundation documents of international law indicate that the USA is owned by The Crown Temple in London. All American attorneys and judges work for The Crown Temple, whether or not they aware of this technicality. From a modern American point of view, therefore, all USA attorneys and judges are foreign agents and cannot lawfully stand for public office at any level of government. But they do. This is a dog's breakfast of such legal complexity that it makes the Schleswig-Holstein Question look quaint.

Full report here: http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1195931117


An insider somewhat DISTURBING report here:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1195931188


With THIS extract to ponder over:

The CORPORATE U.S. GOV'T is the ENEMY of the entire world and especially their own citizens which they have OPENLY DECLARED TO BE THEIR ENEMY. WAKE UP AMERICA. Come January these DRS (dirty rotten scoundrels) are going to get their just deserts in spades (9-11).

Nifty:D

[niftygifter]

The Latest news from the collapse of American Citibank is firmly placing Henry Paulson as the chief purpotrator, but with the solid backing of the Bushes and Clintons as the puppetmasters.

Quote:
"BY HIS BEHAVIOUR, TREASURY SECRETARY PAULSON AND HIS CORRUPT COLLEAGUES SWINDLED THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER, BAMBOOZLED THE U.S. AND INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL MARKETS, AND HAVE MISREPRESENTED THE UNITED STATES’ TRUE FINANCIAL POSITION BEFORE THE WORLD – IN ORDER, AS WILL SOON BE PROGRESSIVELY REVEALED, TO COVER UP MONSTROUS LONG-TERM FINANCIAL MISDEMEANOURS WHICH HAVE CORRODED THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, ALL PRESIDED OVER BY THE BUSH AND CLINTON GANGSTERS AND THEIR BANKSTER ASSOCIATES."

The reason for the current market crisis, IMO.

UP to date summary as we enter a new week.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1196047370

Also some insider info and summary here:

http://www.galacticfriends.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2648&Itemid=90


Nifty:cool:

[niftygifter]

Latest reports implicate Rubin and Bush senior in an attempt to steal HM's money.
Robert Rubin is currently out of the States and could be arrested upon return.

THE NEW INTERIM CITIBANK CEO IS SIR WILLIAM BISCHOFF, FROM LONDON

Hmmm flat out UK involvement eh?

Bush Sr. was actually ‘upstairs’, cowering like a frightened rabbit in a car’s headlights, while Robert Rubin, his co-conspirator, was ordering Boston Properties to throw the Ambassador and his party out of the Citibank building. Citibank is a CIA bank, and the CIA is a notorious Illuminati, German-penetrated criminal enterprise, specialising in lies, subterfuge, disinformation, blackmail, and every other variant of the Black Arts of Lucifer imaginable.

HE WAS COORDINATING THE THEFT WITH ROBERT RUBIN
George Bush Sr was present at Citibank on the morning of 20th November 2007 because he was ‘persuading’ (according to a sanitised version) Robert Rubin not to remit the $4.5 trillion owned by Wanta since May 2006, to the Ambassador. That is the ‘soft’ version of what happened. But the ‘hard’ version is as follows:

• George Herbert Walker Godfather Bush Sr. was STEALING $4.5 billion in collusion with Robert Rubin (the former US Treasury Secretary under Clinton, and buddie of the former President), who had been ‘parachuted in’ when Charles O. Prince was eased out of Citibank a few weeks earlier.

• George Herbert Walker Godfather Bush Sr. was engaged in an operation to transfer $4.5 trillion to accounts in Dubai or Saudi Arabia (to be confirmed) into the hands of Robert Rubin, who flew immediately to Middle East for the purpose.

• How do we know this? Because authorities have informed the Principals that Rubin was in telephone contact while en route to Dubai/Saudi Arabia, in the air.

• This crude operation to steal the funds was thwarted, as has been the case with all the preceding attempts by this bunch of thugs to steal Wanta’s funds, because of course every single movement of dollar-denominated funds is traceable using INSLAW PROMIS software upgrades; and given that there are four separate teams monitoring these illegal dollar movements 24/7 every day of the year, with every such movement being tagged and coded. (The relevant codes will not have been known even by Paulson and Rubin).

The monitoring teams have of course accumulated damning evidence of this corruption which will entitle the likes of George Herbert Walker Godfather Bush Sr. to spend ten millennia contemplating the natural history and the life cycle of the American dung beetle and cockroach.

(On the tariff meted out to Ambassador Lee Wanta on the basis of lies and false witness, George Bush Sr., would need to serve a prison sentence lasting until the end of the solar system).

BUSH SR’S HANDLERS ARE TERRIFIED CIA COVER-UP SPECIALISTS
Actually, the man does have Alzheimers’ (sufferers of which are OK some days, and gaga on others) and is being exploited by his Black Arts handlers, who are desperate to cover up what Wantagate (due to their own endless stupidity) has unravelled, including their mass murders on 9/11, and what will now be pouring out into the public domain as a consequence of this historically unprecedented crisis and of their reckless refusal to remit Ambassador Wanta’s $4.5 trillion funds in June 2006 as planned (see the preceding report). As we have repeatedly stated, if the funds had been remitted then, instead of being hijacked by co-conspirator Paulson, most of this would have been brushed under a gigantic filthy carpet, and the Editor of this service would have been left dangling.

At the Group of Eight Meeting in June 2007, Her Majesty requested the Governments to procure the Wanta Settlement ‘for the sake of the whole of humanity’.



But it gets considerably worse. Over the weekend or on Monday 25th November, Her Majesty The Queen provided the funds necessary to pay Ambassador Wanta his $4.5 trillion, since as we have mentioned in several previous reports, The Queen has all along wished for the Ambassador to receive the payment that he owns and is his due, given that we believe he is the only person in the United States whom Her Majesty (and the Chinese authorities) trusts, and for impeccable historical reasons.:eek:

BUSH SR. STOLE AGAIN FROM THE BRITISH SOVEREIGN
Given that The Queen provided the funds with which the Ambassador was to be paid (Citibank having corruptly alienated the funds belonging to him, or having hidden them in another account), George Bush Sr., with the corrupt co-operation of Robert Rubin, attempted to steal from the British Sovereign. It need hardly be stated that this was an extraordinarily reckless and dangerous thing for the perpetrators (Bush Sr. and his CIA handlers) to do.:cool:

Full story here: http://www.worldreports.org/news/101_bush_sr_was_upstairs

Nifty:)

[synergy777]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/30/cnciti130.xml
Loan strikes wrong note for Citigroup

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/30/cnukecon130.xml
BoE Governor's stark picture of UK economy


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7596
Citigroup deal highlights US banking crisis

Joe Kay – WSWS November 29, 2007

the slide is well and truly underway, its going to get so bad, that this recession/downturn will be bigger than anything we have everknown. coupled with geopolitical aspect of the neocon manifesto, things are being pushed forward now in the media openly.

[niftygifter]

The Telegraph...lol
Still the media cover up, its f**k all to do with the "sub-prime crisis"

Its to do with the fact that Citibank belongs to Bush, Clinton, Henry Paulson and the thieving CIA, they have stolen billions and now they cant and wont pay it back, no other reason.

I still stand by the Christopher Story posts, although he is not 100% correct allegedly, due mainly to disinformation, he certainly is stating the general REAL reasons for this catastrophe. It is verified from "within" the banking system in America.

But the thing about this is, that these are the DARK ones, our whole planet problem, and sooner or later its going to blow and the shit they must be under right now trying to keep the lids on this must be heavy, despite all their minions and puppets trying desperately to keep them above water. Take as long as you like to sink, because you are going to.

What really pisses me off though, is that the BofE Governor warns of "Stark picture of the British Economy".

Well Mervyn King, its your f***ing thieving government involved in this that you need to be addressing, not the British public.

To partially quote the Truth Seeker -"Citigroup—the largest US bank and the largest corporation in the world measured by assets"- should read STOLEN assets

Please someone in the banking and the Media have the BALLS to stand up and reveal this. It will be the end of Bush, Clinton, Cheney, the war machine, the oil machine and all their scum out there in the States and this Planet will be a much better place for it.
Are you really going to let GREED destroy this planet??

Nifty:mad:

[synergy777]

i work in finance, lol the talk in bars/pubs, is the "down the plug hole for the uk/usa". and the unstoppable rise of russia/china/india and arab states eg dubai buying stakes in citi. also brazil is another major force. its the power shift. all empires rise and fall its the way it has always been.

[niftygifter]

• NEWS UPDATE: George Godfather Bush Sr. is understood to have had his passport removed. A source consulted through an intermediary stated on 29th November that he is 'wounded in action'. Draw your own conclusions. Cheney? He 'checked into hospital', as we dutifully reported, on 26th November, ostensibly with an irregular heart beat. (That makes little sense, as he has no heart, but when such deception operatives need cover and are in a bind they cannot escape from, checking into hospital is their preferred choice). What he usually does, apparently, is check in through the front door, with a view to exiting out the back door and catching a cab (which he has actually done several times already). We understand that he may be attempting/may have attempted, to flee the country (given his access to false passport production services, that MIGHT JUST be possible, but it seems unlikely). Robert Rubin? His whereabouts remain uncertain. Clinton (the male version)? Passport removed. He's strutting the country ostensibly supporting Hillary Rodinski, but not really. The last thing he wants is THAT WOMAN to become President of the United States, as he would then wind up being even more vulnerable than he is in any case, given Wantagate (if he survives that long, by the way, which is fanciful). As for the Numero Uno, we shall just have to wait and see: probably not much longer, but given the extraordinary double-mindedness of the entire Washington area environment, nothing is certain until it's HAPPENED. Stay tuned.

• THE GORDON BROWN SITUATION: On Friday the 30th, The Daily Telegraph displayed a huge photograph on its front page of Gordon Brown looking sallow, sick and WITH HIS EYES CLOSED. This is absolutely unprecedented. Is this man bipolar and is he on his 'medication', or are they cruelly feeding him a placebo? Seriously. Or is there some dreadful hidden secret that has him trapped? Question: Could the visible, high-speed disintegration of his Government possibly by any chance be connected with the events that are unfolding and will be unfolding in Washington DC?"

These are the latest updates:rolleyes:

Full link here: http://www.worldreports.org/news/102_stalling_for_time_wi

It Hotting up over there:eek:

One day we will all be thanking CS for his constant and relentless barrage of truth exposure:p


Nifty:D

[lizzy]

i work in finance, lol the talk in bars/pubs, is the "down the plug hole for the uk/usa". and the unstoppable rise of russia/china/india and arab states eg dubai buying stakes in citi. also brazil is another major force. its the power shift. all empires rise and fall its the way it has always been.

This end of empire has been happening since the 70's and before. Once the manufacturing bases in the Uk and USA dissolved , only war ecomony has held it up and now by war itself, we all get that war is profitable and they get a cuits from both sides which they have created.
The US and the UK are going down ,the Elite set this up, they have drained these ecomonies and off the fresh pasture the BRIC countries.I n their wake they will leave bank looting as they move these assets to the BRIC's, because they own our debt. Then they will bring those guys down eventually by selling them everything we own and crashing the dollar to close to zero making their investments unless.
This is what we did in a smaller way to Japan in the 80's.
The Rothchilde's ect will also loot their own banks and move on buying gold with the banks money (our money) and stashing it privatlyWhen we riot in the depth of depression they are ready and waiting.
The BRIC countries will never have a working class as well off as those were for 20 or 30 yrs in the west.
There is alot to see , this is my little snap shot.
love, lzzy

[synergy777]

lizzy spot on. rothschilds have already earmarked india as their new realm. they have brought many food/fruit companies, hoping to supply over 80% of the worlds fruits/veg from india.

what the elite must realise is that they can move, sun, but they cannot escape the supreme being/source and their fate, no one can.

[niftygifter]

lizzy spot on. rothschilds have already earmarked india as their new realm. they have brought many food/fruit companies, hoping to supply over 80% of the worlds fruits/veg from india.

what the elite must realise is that they can move, sun, but they cannot escape the supreme being/source and their fate, no one can.

Sweet Mate, so sweet, they really are doomed to failure:cool:

Just imagine starting to trade in barter instead of money, their whole system would collapse, it would be brilliant to say "No thanks, we dont want money anymore, we prefer to trade honestly with honest and caring societies, goodbye"

They wouldnt know what the f*** to do with that, its everything they have worked for, designed, planned and plotted over. It would be like tearing their hearts out:D


Nifty:D

[niftygifter]

It's starting to crack, it IS starting to crack.

Arrest Warrant issued for Henry Paulson - major WORLDWIDE implications here not just America.

UK is in this scandal as deep as CLINTON and BUSH, END DAYS for BROWN??

The REAL reason for the collapse of Northern Rock!!!!!!

PLANNED FINANCIAL TAKEDOWN OF UK AND AMERICA

GORDON BROWN IN DEEP, RELATED TROUBLE
As we noted in an Update on 30th November, The Daily Telegraph displayed a huge, cropped front-page photograph of Sub-Prime Minister Gordon Brown with his eyes closed, and apparently in a condition of extreme depression. As we hinted, there must be a reason for this that has nothing much to do with the parallel Israeli-linked ‘donations sleaze’ crisis* that has erupted around the Labour Government and which, coming on top of other catastrophes such as the near-collapse of Northern Rock, and the seizure by Dutch mob fraudsters of the private details held by HM Customs and Revenue of 25 million people in the United Kingdom (followed by daily reports of further huge thefts of data from HM Customs and Revenue) – inducing the fastest collapse of confidence in any British Government ever recorded. [*Note: We believe that this dimension of Brown's troubles is a 'satellite' operation perpetrated by Israeli intelligence, which appears to be engaged in a flanking destabilising offensive, to buttress the horrendous planned 'takedown' described in this report].

Here is the real underlying cause of the Sub-Prime Minister’s evidently near-terminal despair.

It will be recalled that some time back we identified the fact that the Bank of England has been running a specialist fraudulent finance boiler-room scam via an operation out of Birmingham. The contract paperwork for this operation, with which the Clintons, Cheney and Bush Sr. were allegedly involved, was lodged off-balance sheet with Northern Rock.

Under the Basle II regime, Northern Rock cannot use these ‘assets’ as collateral (on the books). Aware of this, the Sub-Prime Minister personally authorised the injection of billions of pounds into Northern Rock, to end the images of British people lining the streets to remove their funds from Northern Rock branches, in the first run on a bank recorded in Great Britain for nearly a century and a half. These images, which threatened the reputation of the City of London and implied that Britain was no better than Argentina, did more to destroy Brown’s (false, contrived) reputation than anything else, since lines of people withdrawing their savings from high street banks in the rain, are immediately and rightly blamed on the Government.

Northern Rock is now imminently vulnerable to collapse, as under Basle II, its on-the-books assets must cover its liabilities, which is impossible because the assets provided by the Bank of England’s corrupt ‘back door’ boiler room operation, are all illegal and off-balance sheet.

As noted, Bank of England fraudulent finance operations were being handled with the Clintons, and Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. Hence, when Northern Rock collapses, Gordon Brown collapses with it, as he alone will be blamed. This insight provides the first evidence that the Wantagate scandal ‘connects with’ the Sub-Prime Minister’s own horrendous situation.

Full Story.
http://www.worldreports.org/news/103_u.s._judge_issues_a_


Nifty:D

[synergy777]

i think if this is true, which it could be, its going to be huge, massive, meltdown. to be frank, the markets should have fallen in august, its only "illegal" injections by central banks and plunge protection teams (PPT) that have kept the market up.

see in a free market, central banks must sit back and let the market regulate itself, let the market regulate the values. a market crash would have made things cheaper, put things back to their "real" value, as the values they have now are inflated due to speculation. this speculation came from an increase in money supply/cheap credit/loans. hence when the cheap money supply stops or is lost, as it is now, they call it the credit crunch. basically credit crunch is a nice way of saying, " insolvent - reduced liquidity ".

the elite kept the markets going, so they could get every little last dollar/pound of profit and stash it. then they transfered their holdings. their shares were brought up by central banks/ppt teams and pension funds/banks/hedge funds etc. as the money these use is the publics, not theres. so when it crashes now, the public will lose their pensions, savings etc.

the elite will buyback everything at the lowest price. thus enjoying profits prior to the crash, and complete control/increased share holding, as the share price is lower. thus they can buy more shares at a lower price after the crash. its an intelligent game, like chess.

northern rock has collapsed, if it hadn't, it would need the govt to give it £30bn to keep afloat would it. do you need money if you are solvent?

see its not special powers, its economic fundamentals, when these are wrong, its only a matter of time before the system corrects/crashes. too many people, jumped on the bandwagon of snake oil property boom, not realising, why the prices were going up, why did they go up.

cheap credit/increase in money supply. so people brought property as investments, or had access to bigger mortages, so all this speculation due to increased money supply/credit, caused the prices to rise, nothing else. add to this the behaviour of banks, giving mortages to people who couldn't really afford them has added to this. after all banks have salespeople, who get commission for giving mortgages. the more mortgages, the bigger the value, the bigger their wage packet. if the mortages defaults, the bank gets the house. the only losers are the people who took the mortgage out.

its mis-selling on an astronimical scale, worse than the previous endownment/pension scandals that rocked this country.

[synergy777]

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7738/ixbiznews02bk6.jpg

northern rock, 11th hour

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/12/02/cnrock102.xml

Deutsche threat on Virgin Rock bid
By Iain Dey and Helen Power
Last Updated: 1:45am GMT 02/12/2007

Deutsche Bank, one of the three institutions lined up to back Virgin's bid for Northern Rock, is threatening to walk away from the deal amid claims that the bank has "serious issues" with the takeover proposal from Sir Richard Branson's group.

Virgin and the rock

Luqman Arnold, the former chief executive of Abbey, is this weekend working on a revised offer for the Northern Rock

The German financial powerhouse is one of three banks talking to the Virgin consortium about providing a £15bn funding line to repay the Bank of England. The others are Citigroup and Royal Bank of Scotland. Deutsche is understood to have contacted several of the parties concerned last week to clarify the extent of its role after feeling that the Virgin camp had issued "disinformation" on the level of its involvement.

With savers still pulling money from Northern Rock accounts, the bank could become unsaleable by Christmas, according to due diligence conducted by two prospective bidders. One bidder believes that Northern Rock's current deposits of £10bn could have shrunk to as little as £2bn to £3bn by the end of December if the current rate of withdrawals continues. Northern Rock deposits are still covered by a government guarantee.

more at the link. ask yourself this, why didn't the govt help all those who lost pensions?

[niftygifter]

Well some have initially doubted this thread, some have sat with interest and others haven't even bothered, thats fine any way you want.:)

There is a substantial amount of irrefutable evidence here, way beyond any hoax.
There are also serious implications to anyone residing in America and the UK.

I strongly suggest you read this summary to get an idea of what is going on:rolleyes:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1196638168



Nifty:D

[cruise4]

I'm loving this thread... its just I don't believe it, yet. But I badly want to:D

[niftygifter]

Hang in there cruise, hang in there!!;)


Nifty:cool:

[niftygifter]

Latest update from Christopher Story;)


As reported below, the warrant issued for Paulson's arrest on Friday was a 'performance' warrant (subject to performance). Quick as a flash, having advised the Judge, on being served the warrant, that he (Paulson) had not been aware that President George W. Bush Jr. had authorised the Wanta payment, Paulson said he would contact the White House. However the Federal Judge preferred to hear the matter from the President himself and, according to our very best sources, the Judge duly telephoned the President who said: 'Yeah, the payment is authorised for Monday', or words, to that effect. Of course, President 43 then, on Monday, reneged on his undertaking to the Judge, as there has been no indication of payment having been made whatsoever. This was confirmed to the Editor from multiple sources. The overall situation has thus precipitated a flurry of legal and WCJ activity concerning which we currently have only partial information, which requires further confirmation; so we are not reporting it at present.

There appears to be confusion over the perception that Basel II is supposed to take effect in the United States on 1st January 2008, which is beside the point. The United States is BUST. Basel II took effect in Europe and elsewhere effective 10.00 a.m. EDT last Saturday, and European banks cannot operate with US banks that are non-compliant. We understand that to shore up the situation, significant volumes of funds are being repatriated 'as we speak' from Dubai, China and elsewhere. The Federal Reserve Basel II document dated 2nd November sent to us by the Fed and referenced below, specifically leaves the date of Basel II implementation BLANK, which implies that arguments continued between the Americans and the Europeans right through November on this point.

As for the fact that Paulson surfaced on Monday at a conference, where he was televised, this is neither interesting nor relevant. Some people think this proves that we are wrong: but THEY are misguided. The facts published below were correct as posted. Paulson disappeared on Sunday and it was then thought that he was 'on the run'. It was not THEN known that he had wriggled out of the situation he faced (in collusion with the President), by the duplicity outlined above. This is a fast-moving crisis and superficial assertions claiming that such and such a fact does not compute, need to be withheld, and the situation understood in that context, and pending further information.

Whole Link : http://www.worldreports.org/

Nifty:cool:

[lizzy]

[QUOTE=niftygifter;204630]Well some have initially doubted this thread, some have sat with interest and others haven't even bothered, thats fine any way you want.:)

There is a substantial amount of irrefutable evidence here, way beyond any hoax.
There are also serious implications to anyone residing in America and the UK.

Hi Nifty,
I was never in doubt.
If you jump back a couple pages you will see my short post.
I f anything it is amazing the markets have held up this long. Bush said today the ecomony might be slowly down. ......what a joke.
Were the chinese were duped into loaning/ investing in the Ameri Trust Group knowingly or unknowly that the 4.5 Billion transfer would get ripped off.?
Is there a bigger game here that the Provest Marshel is really the Rothchildes / Bank of England henchman which is centralizing it's power base under 'International' law in the Hague.
America is bankrupt ,( the Rockerfellows) owes more than it can ever repay. But that is what the Rothchildes want and taking these 'big boys' down means there are bigger ones above themIt has been a fight between the Rothchildes and the Rockerfellows , big buddy's in our enslavement until the last game in town started playing out.
Who was going to own the West , (Rothchilde may or may not have set them up knowing their greed would condem them ( citi, morgan stanley, the Fed).....but it's game over the Rothchilds own the west the Rockerfelloers lost and how they play china they new business partner in total control, they are the NWO.
Look to china to see what the world will look for many and watch the west 's infrastructure social and material crumble.
lizzy

[maggie]

Fabulous insight Lizzie.

[lizzy]

Fabulous insight Lizzie.
ThankU Maggie.
It is great to talk with you on email. Let's keep that going.
love, liz

[niftygifter]

Lizzy,
Thanks for that;)

The only real good that comes from this, then is the "infighting" and a divisional split in the supposed NWO.
That means to me that they are now half the power they were.

It was interesting that there have been some subtle messages by the various powers lately, mentions of the NWO by Brownfinger and our own Queen.

Maybe a signal to the "members" to prepare or activate them in some way.:cool:

I wasnt phased by them in the first place and now I am even less worried about them...lol

I have a very special bottle of wine just waiting for the day that the Bushes, Rumsfeld, Cheney , Paulson, Blair and the Clintons et al are taken away and tried as the WAR CRIMINALs that they are.
BRING IT ON





Nifty:D

[maggie]

Nifty,if the Bushes Clintons etc.are ever taken away I will drink a bottle of champagne and I haven't had a drink in 12 years.They will never get picked up there is noone out there that is not part of the problem except for the civilians.

[lizzy]

Lizzy,
Thanks for that;)

The only real good that comes from this, then is the "infighting" and a divisional split in the supposed NWO.
That means to me that they are now half the power they were.

It was interesting that there have been some subtle messages by the various powers lately, mentions of the NWO by Brownfinger and our own Queen.

Maybe a signal to the "members" to prepare or activate them in some way.:cool:

I wasnt phased by them in the first place and now I am even less worried about them...lol

I have a very special bottle of wine just waiting for the day that the Bushes, Rumsfeld, Cheney , Paulson, Blair and the Clintons et al are taken away and tried as the WAR CRIMINALs that they are.
BRING IT ON





Nifty:D
Hi Nifty,
Believe me , i wish I saw it that way, ..that they are half the power they were.
For me , the real power always resided in the Uk and European Banks ,they are the biggest shareholders in the Fed.
The Rockefellow ( USA) now operate UNDER the Rothchild's, who are know the dominant factor in the West. They were partners. , the Rockerfellows , the US are now a subsidiary to the Rothchildes', like little brother.
But then the Saudis and others who invest in the cheap dollar with which to do some rebuilding of America under the North Amercian Union.
All I know is it not good for a regular guy. The middle class is no it's last legs.
lizzy

[lizzy]

Nifty,if the Bushes Clintons etc.are ever taken away I will drink a bottle of champagne and I haven't had a drink in 12 years.They will never get picked up there is noone out there that is not part of the problem except for the civilians.

yup, if we might see a 'show trial' in the Hague but it is just the fallout from this big 2 R"s.
Hey Maggie, have you heard of the SUKUK a Suadi play , a type of bond?.
as opposed to a Foster Wheeler play.? Catcha on email.

[maggie]

No Lizzie I haven't heard of it.But I'll tell you this any instrument that is available in the market is a looooooooooser!!!!!!!!!!![I]f we can buy it then it means that someone is looking to dump it on us.Sell anything dollar denominated.

[lizzy]

[QUOTE=maggie;206178]No Lizzie I haven't heard of it.But I'll tell you this any instrument that is available in the market is a looooooooooser!!!!!!!!!!![I]f we can buy it then it means that someone is looking to dump it on us.Sell anything dollar denominated.[/QUOTE
Yup, I am out. .

[niftygifter]

Basel 2 Banking confirmed now in America....This backs up Christopher Story's efforts.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs/news.php?q=1196809313

Some insider information here:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1196888724

The way this is going, I predict Bush et al arrested soon:cool:


NIfty:D

[cruise4]

Can't get those links up Nifty? Any clue?

They are up now... must have been my connection or something.

[michael_6]

Thats such a good deal I might just take you up on that later:D
Mind you it don't half make a mess getting them into your wallet.

lmfao:D

[niftygifter]

Insider update ;)

The provost Marshall is apparently working for Bush and not the World Banks:mad:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1196973513


Nifty:cool:

[ak87]

Insider update ;)

The provost Marshall is apparently working for Bush and not the World Banks:mad:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1196973513


Nifty:cool:

I thought the world banks are controlled by the rothschilds anyway?

[niftygifter]

Nope
They have a stronghold in Europe but not the World.;)


Nifty:D

[cruise4]

Is Rothschild versus Rockefella a real fight?

[niftygifter]

It seems that way:)
As I posted earlier in the thread to Maggie, as far as I am concerned any infighting is a weakening of them as a whole:cool:

Maggie has it nailed down though on the Euro Illuminati being more powerful.

At the end of the day, they are failing and it is written they are doomed to fail, so lose any fear:rolleyes:


Nifty:D

[niftygifter]

Right latest updates from over the Water:D
Extracts and link to the "Casper" report:cool:

Expect some really serious news shortly. LIFE CHANGING NEWS

A Summary plus the link:)

Provost Marshall fired by Army Chief of staff after siding with Bush.
11 Federal judges involved in the theft were also arrested yesterday.

"Debt forgiveness of $300k per family (incl. mortgages,credit cards, loans) will be forthcoming.":eek:

Read it all here:http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197062623

It's going to be a very nice Christmas over the water and who knows where else??

Is this the fall of the CABAL????

NIfty:D

[niftygifter]

Latest developments from Christopher Story.

London Demands made also;)

http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_1015.shtml

And some further clarification from a "Casper" Report here:http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197209198

Nifty:D

[synergy777]

any more new info, this is getting good.

[synergy777]

Basel II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basel II and the regulators

One of the most difficult aspects of implementing an international agreement is the need to accommodate differing cultures, varying structural models, and the complexities of public policy and existing regulation. Banks’ senior management will determine corporate strategy, as well as the country in which to base a particular type of business, based in part on how Basel II is ultimately interpreted by various countries' legislatures and regulators.

To assist banks operating with multiple reporting requirements for different regulators according to geographic location, there are several software applications available. These include capital calculation engines and extend to automated reporting solutions which include the reports required under COREP/FINREP.


Implementation progress

Regulators in most jurisdictions around the world plan to implement the new Accord, but with widely varying timelines and use of the varying methodologies being restricted. The United States of America's various regulators have agreed on a final approach - see [5] for the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking. They have required the Internal Ratings-Based approach for the largest banks, and the standardized approach will not be available to anyone. In India, the RBI has implemented the Basel II norms.

In response to a questionnaire released by the Financial Stability Institute (FSI)[6], 95 national regulators indicated they were to implement Basel II, in some form or another, by 2015.

The European Union has already implemented the Accord via the EU Capital Requirements Directives and many European banks already report their capital adequacy ratios according to the new system. All the credit institutions will adopt it by 2008.

[lizzy]

It seems that way:)
As I posted earlier in the thread to Maggie, as far as I am concerned any infighting is a weakening of them as a whole:cool:

Maggie has it nailed down though on the Euro Illuminati being more powerful.

At the end of the day, they are failing and it is written they are doomed to fail, so lose any fear:rolleyes:


Nifty:D
hi nifty,
it was my post that indentified the R &R rumble in the jungle.
sorry , just my ego I guess.LOL
love lizzy

[lizzy]

[QUOTE=niftygifter;204630]Well some have initially doubted this thread, some have sat with interest and others haven't even bothered, thats fine any way you want.:)

There is a substantial amount of irrefutable evidence here, way beyond any hoax.
There are also serious implications to anyone residing in America and the UK.

Hi Nifty,
I was never in doubt.
If you jump back a couple pages you will see my short post.
I f anything it is amazing the markets have held up this long. Bush said today the ecomony might be slowly down. ......what a joke.
Were the chinese were duped into loaning/ investing in the Ameri Trust Group knowingly or unknowly that the 4.5 Billion transfer would get ripped off.?
Is there a bigger game here that the Provest Marshel is really the Rothchildes / Bank of England henchman which is centralizing it's power base under 'International' law in the Hague.
America is bankrupt ,( the Rockerfellows) owes more than it can ever repay. But that is what the Rothchildes want and taking these 'big boys' down means there are bigger ones above themIt has been a fight between the Rothchildes and the Rockerfellows , big buddy's in our enslavement until the last game in town started playing out.
Who was going to own the West , (Rothchilde may or may not have set them up knowing their greed would condem them ( citi, morgan stanley, the Fed).....but it's game over the Rothchilds own the west the Rockerfelloers lost and how they play china they new business partner in total control, they are the NWO.
Look to china to see what the world will look for many and watch the west 's infrastructure social and material crumble.
lizzy

.................

[synergy777]

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197209198

Casper - Dec. 8, 2007

TO YING: Someone claiming to be in contact with you is putting out false information in your name. Hope this is not true. Contact V.

Friends, the above is an especially important message. Please forward this mail as best you can especially to offshore contacts.

It was the "countries" which had the Provost dealt with Thursday and now that STORY has reappeared and divulged certain things we can now say that it was also the "countries" (IMF) which warned BRUSSELS on Friday that unless deliveries were made today, Saturday, they would proceed to pull ALL their money out of the money center in BRUSSELS. As deliveries did not occur it is our understanding that the COUNTRIES (160+) are proceeding with the paper work to do exactly that. All the "happy talk" coming from there (no problems, all is on schedule, etc.) is subterfuge in cooperation with GW and lord knows who all else. A hand full of deliveries occur each week allowing them to say deliveries are underway and ongoing. The COUNTRIES which have waited for months in New York for their funding which they cannot receive until we go first have finally had enough and are acting in unison to overcome BRUSSELS and GW.


The BOXES repatriated from Dubai have a value in excess of 50T$. They came from the huge warehouse in IRAQ controlled by BUSH & SADAM during their decades long "partnership" and was one of the reasons for the invasion of IRAQ. Do you remember Exec. Order # 11110 (Kennedy) which called for the Reintroduction of U.S. Treasury Issued Silver Certificates?? --And Johnson's first act as President from Air Force One enroute back from Dallas to D.C., with the widow Kennedy aboard, was to reverse that executive order??


We are unclear whether the Freedom packs left D.C. as scheduled Friday afternoon and sources insist nothing can be delivered until they are in place to come first or simultaneous. One important source says they are still at the Supreme Court which, if true, puts us in the same position as Wanta as described by STORY's Saturday update, that is to say we are all getting the mushroom treatment, "keep them in the dark and feed them s___".


Agreements get made, we learn of them and report them, then the DRS (dirty rotten scoundrels) which now includes BRUSSELS fail to honor the bargains made just hours before.


Given what we do know it is easy to discern that there is so very much we don't know. International power plays for example, attempts to salvage U.S. financial institutions and the CITY, for example. Civil warfare between the Constitutional govt. and the Corp. gov't., for example. And the NWO bankers vs the Sovereign nations as represented by metals backed currencies.


Occasionally we have information which makes us, in our minds, the smartest kid on the block if only for a few hours. Then along comes the other sides response to what our side has done and we are suddenly ignorant all over again. Back and forth. Up and down. A bull rider gets off in 8 seconds. We have been riding "BODACIOUS" (the big bad bull) for 15 years expecting to be able to get off at any moment.

From here we have watched as untold numbers of our group have died of stress related heart attacks and many commited suicide. No words could ever fully describe the horrific consequences to the hundreds of thousands of innocent people of the ongoing evil and sadistic acts of these sub-human criminals masquerading as leaders of the free world.

May they all, each and every one of them, answer for what they have done and are continuing to do, in this life or the next.


Tomorrow is Sunday. Several sources say it is coming tomorrow. Union contracts preclude regular carrier deliveries on Sunday so we doubt it but, MAYBE--- There are "other delivery/courier capabilities" .


If not we will likely have to wait till Monday for further clarification and will report again then.


casper 12-08-07


ps: the author and validity of the following information is unknown to us--but it does make for excellant reading.

[lizzy]

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197209198

Casper - Dec. 8, 2007

TO YING: Someone claiming to be in contact with you is putting out false information in your name. Hope this is not true. Contact V.

Friends, the above is an especially important message. Please forward this mail as best you can especially to offshore contacts.

It was the "countries" which had the Provost dealt with Thursday and now that STORY has reappeared and divulged certain things we can now say that it was also the "countries" (IMF) which warned BRUSSELS on Friday that unless deliveries were made today, Saturday, they would proceed to pull ALL their money out of the money center in BRUSSELS. As deliveries did not occur it is our understanding that the COUNTRIES (160+) are proceeding with the paper work to do exactly that. All the "happy talk" coming from there (no problems, all is on schedule, etc.) is subterfuge in cooperation with GW and lord knows who all else. A hand full of deliveries occur each week allowing them to say deliveries are underway and ongoing. The COUNTRIES which have waited for months in New York for their funding which they cannot receive until we go first have finally had enough and are acting in unison to overcome BRUSSELS and GW.


The BOXES repatriated from Dubai have a value in excess of 50T$. They came from the huge warehouse in IRAQ controlled by BUSH & SADAM during their decades long "partnership" and was one of the reasons for the invasion of IRAQ. Do you remember Exec. Order # 11110 (Kennedy) which called for the Reintroduction of U.S. Treasury Issued Silver Certificates?? --And Johnson's first act as President from Air Force One enroute back from Dallas to D.C., with the widow Kennedy aboard, was to reverse that executive order??


We are unclear whether the Freedom packs left D.C. as scheduled Friday afternoon and sources insist nothing can be delivered until they are in place to come first or simultaneous. One important source says they are still at the Supreme Court which, if true, puts us in the same position as Wanta as described by STORY's Saturday update, that is to say we are all getting the mushroom treatment, "keep them in the dark and feed them s___".


Agreements get made, we learn of them and report them, then the DRS (dirty rotten scoundrels) which now includes BRUSSELS fail to honor the bargains made just hours before.


Given what we do know it is easy to discern that there is so very much we don't know. International power plays for example, attempts to salvage U.S. financial institutions and the CITY, for example. Civil warfare between the Constitutional govt. and the Corp. gov't., for example. And the NWO bankers vs the Sovereign nations as represented by metals backed currencies.


Occasionally we have information which makes us, in our minds, the smartest kid on the block if only for a few hours. Then along comes the other sides response to what our side has done and we are suddenly ignorant all over again. Back and forth. Up and down. A bull rider gets off in 8 seconds. We have been riding "BODACIOUS" (the big bad bull) for 15 years expecting to be able to get off at any moment.

From here we have watched as untold numbers of our group have died of stress related heart attacks and many commited suicide. No words could ever fully describe the horrific consequences to the hundreds of thousands of innocent people of the ongoing evil and sadistic acts of these sub-human criminals masquerading as leaders of the free world.

May they all, each and every one of them, answer for what they have done and are continuing to do, in this life or the next.


Tomorrow is Sunday. Several sources say it is coming tomorrow. Union contracts preclude regular carrier deliveries on Sunday so we doubt it but, MAYBE--- There are "other delivery/courier capabilities" .


If not we will likely have to wait till Monday for further clarification and will report again then.


casper 12-08-07ok, yes it will be interesting.

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Its not about Ego at all m'dear:D

SO sorry I reported it was Maggie.

And thanks, you do have it nailed:cool:

If only 50% of this is true, it still has profound implications:rolleyes:

Time will tell and lets watch this space, but its very interesting stuff, nevertheless.


Another brief Casper update yesterday which now really calls the bluff. If there are to be deliveries to anyone regarding Nesara then this will prove it over the next few days/weeks?.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197253302


NIfty:D

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Latest report from Christopher Story.

Extracts

"IT'S CRUNCH TIME FOR THE WORLD'S BIGGEST CRIMINAL BANK
The Board of Citibank/Citigroup is reportedly meeting today and tomorrow in New York."

"NEW C.E.O. COULD BE ON A FAST TRACK TO JAIL
Otherwise its new Chief Executive Officer – should anyone be so foolish as to accept a position that could land them in jail – will find that the bed of nails that he or she has agreed to lie upon will turn out to be, at the very least, a fast-track to oblivion and a wrecked career.

Any false move now by this notorious criminal enterprise could be terminal for the institution, and catastrophic for both the United States and the whole world.

As The Queen told the Group of Eight financial powers in Germany last June, the Wanta Settlement payment has to be completed ‘for the sake of the whole of humanity’."

http://www.worldreports.org/news/105_citibank_board_meeti

The options have RUN OUT!!!

Nifty:D

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Latest update from Christopher Story here:
http://www.worldreports.org/news/105_citibank_board_meeting_to_disgorge_wantas_fund s

Extract of:

UPDATE, EARLY MORNING UK TIME, 11TH DECEMBER:
"An extremely serious criminal act took place on 10th December which again impeded the Wanta Settlement and therefore all the payments that have been linked to it (despite the fact that the Ambassador should have received his Settlement funds in June 2006, of course). An attempt was made to smash-and-grab a colossal volume of funds for placement backwards to the usual Middle East 'hidey holes'".

Read the rest!!!!:mad:

Nifty:D

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``After the 1994 election, there was a lot of talk about getting rid of the Department of Education, which had a budget of $24.4 billion at the time. Roughly five years later, the department is still kicking, and a budget of $35.6 billion has just been approved. ... In 1993, Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole was asked about judicial activists while on a radio call-in show. 'If you give us a majority and we don't produce, then you ought to throw us out,' he responded. Well, it's been five years. Isn't it time to start producing?''
-Free Congress Foundation's John Nowacki
``We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security.''
Dwight D. Eisenhower
``Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.''
Milton Friedman
``Free trade means open markets, which means power goes to the powerful and not to the people''
Michael Sacco
``The International Monetary Fund can virtually dictate fiscal policies, even including how much tax a government should levy on its citizens. The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade regulates how much a nation can charge on imports. These organizations can be seen as the proto-ministries of trade, finance and development for a united world. [...] Globalization has also contributed to the spread of terrorism, drug trafficking, AIDS and environmental degradation. But because those threats are more than any one nation can cope with on its own, they constitute an incentive for international cooperation.''
Strobe Talbott, in TIME, 1992
`To realize the full possibilities of this economy, we must reach beyond our own borders, to shape the revolution that is tearing down barriers and building new networks among nations and individuals, and economies and cultures: globalization. It's the central reality of our time.''
Bill Clinton, State of the Union address, 2000-Jan-27
``He could rage at the `hypocrisy of the capitalist system.' He could refer to a representative in England of an American philanthropy as `the one who distributes the Rockefellers' blood-stained money''' from Edward R. Murrow: An American Original
Joseph E. Persico
``No arbitrary regulation, no act of the legislature, can add anything to the capital of the country; it can only force it into artificial channels.''
-J.R. McCulloch, economist (1789-1864) Principles of Political Economy
Money is a very excellent servant, but a terrible master.
P.T. Barnum

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Words from the man himself.

White House Estopped Financial Settlement Again

Subject: Special Prayer to our US President George W Bush, Jr.
SEVERAL MINUTES AGO, I WAS INFORMED BY RELIABLE SOURCES THAT THE 2am
[12 December 2007] USTreasuryDirect / Citibank - CitiGroup Directeurs agreed upon Financial Settlement was estopped by your White House personnel. Why is it so difficult to release said monetary funds in my personal name_ as SOLE BENEFICIARY_ to be used to to lawfully pay USDollars 1.575 trillion in US Federal Repatriation Taxes immediately, protect, strengthen and save Our Great Nation _ inter alia. I really believe I should be briefed as to actual purpose of these noted lawless activities, clearly demonstrated via PROMIS utilization and continuously documented during the Bush / Cheney / Philip Perry / et al Administration, >>>>>>>>

A prayer of hope follows:(


Nifty:cool:

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MASSIVE SUMS FOUND IN TOP OFFICIAL CRIMINALS’ SECRET CITIBANK ACCOUNTS. Thursday 13 December 2007 07:06
Extract 1.
"BUSH SR. TOLD THAT IF HE DOES IT AGAIN, HE’LL BE SHOT DEAD
Recovery of the funds was only achieved after George Bush Sr. was directly threatened by law enforcement that if he attempted to steal funds ONCE more, he would be shot dead. That this physical threat was made has been confirmed by impeccable sources, and we held back from publishing this information pending absolute quadruple confirmation of this fact.":p:p:p
(Don't stop there:D)
Extract 2
Meanwhile DOD Internal Affairs informed associates of Ambassador Lee Emil Wanta and Michael C. Cottrell, M.S., that, as a result of massive ongoing forensic investigations, it had been definitively established that hidden bank accounts held within Citibank in the names of some of the highest-level financial criminals featured in these reports, had been discovered.

Extract 3
FEDERAL JUDGE WARNS THAT CITIBANK MAY BE SEIZED
The Federal Judge (whose identity, obviously, the Editor does not and cannot know, as this is an ongoing investigation) nevertheless made it crystal clear to Citibank that they MUST implement the Wanta Settlement payment, OR ELSE THE BANK WILL BE SEIZED.

"instructions to STOP the payment could only have been given by the corrupt Treasury Secretary, Henry M. Paulson"

THE UK ARE STILL INVOLVED IN THIS FRAUD
"BEHIND THE CENTRAL BANKS’ CONCERTED ‘TERM AUCTION FACILITY’ PROGRAM
The sanitised version of the so-called 'Term Auction Facility' (TAF) program suddenly launched for public consumption by the Federal Reserve Board, the Bank of England, the Bank of Canada and the Swiss National Bank on Wednesday 12th December, conveys a false and misleading impression about what is really intended. The Swiss authorities have, moreover, been inveigled into a trap.
Because the coordinated statements by the leading central banks have presented this cooperative venture as a means of providing the tense short-term funding markets with additional liquidity over the end-year period, the ‘mainstream’ press has been misled into believing that this new initiative by four of the world's leading central banks, has a benevolent purpose. Wrong.
The purpose of this operation is to provide the criminal financial operatives – and we name them specifically: George Bush Sr., George Bush Jr., Robert Rubin, Henry M. Paulson, Vice President Cheney, Former President Clinton and Mrs Hillary Rodinski Clinton – with cover so that they can continue, with Citibank, to steal and exploit Ambassador Wanta’s $4.5 trillion Settlement fund"

SO you have to ask who are the British scumbags over here involved in this???:mad: Who is the person completely and utterly prepared to let the whole of America, the UK and ultimately the whole planet suffer in squalor beyond comprehension, with the sole aim of a complete control of humanity:eek: These people (if you could ever call them that) NEED to be EXPOSED to everyone on the Planet. They are actually worse than the infamous Nazi's of the World wars, because they have contrived, planned, poisoned and lied to all of humanity in their NWO plans for a planet domination.

Christopher Story get them named;)


Christopher Story is right on the nail again:cool:

Full Report here: http://www.worldreports.org/news/106_bush_sr._will_be_shot_dead_if_caught_stealing_ again


Nifty:cool:

[angeldust]

"BUSH SR. TOLD THAT IF HE DOES IT AGAIN, HE’LL BE SHOT DEAD

Well there's still hope then!

I may be a bit slow here - but how do we find out who's on the the UK team??
Dusty

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/12/13/bcnmarket113.xml

Stocks fall on fears bail-out is not enough
By Richard Blackden and David Litterick
Last Updated: 10:27am GMT 13/12/2007



Stock markets in the UK, Asia and Europe fell as an unprecedented promise from central banks to inject $100bn into the financial system only heighetened investors' fears that the credit crisis may worsen.

Banks pump billions into crisis-hit markets
Leader: a high-wire act from central banks
Tom Stevenson: why the banks made this desperate move

The elation in the markets that the central banks were acting together was tempered by fears that it may not be enough


The FTSE 100 fell more than 70 points at the open and was down more than 100 points by mid-morning, while the FTSE 250 was down more than 150 points.

Banks and financial companies led stocks lower in Japan, where the Nikkei 225 Stock Average fell more than 2pc. Markets in Taiwan and Hong Kong were also under pressured.

Today's declines follow hours of turmoil yesterday in which initial elation that the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank and the Bank of England were acting together was tempered by fears that it may not be enough.

John Wraith, head of interest rate strategy in London at Royal Bank of Scotland, said "The action raises as many questions as it answers. The fact that they felt the need to do this action suggests the problems run pretty deep."

Ian Shepherdson, an analyst at High Frequency Economics, said the feeling was one of confusion. "We think these measures are a step in the right direction, but there is simply no way to know for sure how effective they will be.

" The big question, though, is why the Fed did not make this announcement yesterday, instead of allowing the markets to be hugely disappointed by their actions."

Between them, the five central banks pledged to add more $100bn cash to the financial system in the biggest concerted liquidity injection since the 2001 terrorist attacks.

"This is shock and awe," said Fred Goodwin, a fixed-income strategist at Lehman Brothers who described it as a "sentiment-changing" moment. "The fact that it's co-ordinated means they have joined together in the war to attack the problem, which is that banks don't trust each other."

In a sign traders expect banks to be less reluctant to lend to each other, the rate on the three-month dollar London interbank offered rate (Libor) fell to 4.67pc from 4.87pc.

Nevertheless, the elation in the market that the central banks were finally acting together was tempered by the expectation that it would not be enough to prevent the world economy slowing next year.

Howard Wheeldon of BCG Partners said: "We need to remember that only two days ago the Fed's official line was that economic growth is slowing. That isn't about to change."

That was borne out by Bank of America, which said it expected writedowns to increase and "weak" earnings through the first quarter of next year.

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Although the "official" reasons are being muted by the controlled media, including interestingly the Financial Times (as reported by Story), it is now fairly obvious that the underlying causes are, indeed the reports muted by Christopher Story.
It uncannily ties in events and the fact that the same group of banks are Lying through their teeth to prop up the system until they can work out another way to steal more money or keep the populous supressed in enslavement.

The ends days are here for them, it can no longer be hidden or covered up. Every single stolen pound, dollar whatever currency you want is and has been traced by the "Promis 2" software and every transaction nullified. They are running around like headless chickens, wondering how to keep stealing but also worrying about how to keep covering up in a desperate attempt to regain "CONTROL".
That control is now being slowly relinquished. One by one they will fall and one by one they will be exposed.

We must NEVER FORGET the support these scumbags have had from the media. Every single masonic handshake in the scheme of things and the endless list of Sheisters that believe they are "only doing their job"

Nifty:cool:

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More on the banking crisis here:
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs/news.php?q=1197599757

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs/news.php?q=1197598825

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs/news.php?q=1197598579

And an excellent summary of the Banking Fraud events here:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197581904

If you want an overview then the last link explains the whole process.

The fact is that Britain, America and other Euro states are involved in this, and I believe that it is fundamental to a part process of the NWO.

So any resolution that brings these scum down, in my eyes, will be another nail in the coffin for that NWO:cool:


Nifty:D

[synergy777]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/12/15/cnbanking115.xml

Call to relax Basel banking rules
By Edmund Conway, Economics Editor
Last Updated: 2:13am GMT 15/12/2007

The Government must suspend a set of key banking regulations at the heart of the current financial crisis or risk seeing the economy spiral towards a future that could "make 1929 look like a walk in the park", one of Britain's leading economists has warned.

Peter Spencer, of the Ernst & Young Item Club, said conflicts caused by the Basel system of banking regulations, which determine how much capital banks must raise to keep their books in order, are the root cause of the crunch and were serving to worsen the City's plight.

The regulations meant that banks forced to take off-balance sheet assets from troubled structured investment vehicles on to their books had little choice but either to raise money from abroad or cut back dramatically on their spending, he said.

He warned that, if London's money markets remained frozen and the authorities retain the strict Basel regulations, the full scale of the eventual credit crunch and economic slump could be "disastrous".

Dismissing the assumption that banks are not lending to each other on the money markets because they lack confidence in each others' potential solvency, he argued that they were, in practice, prevented from lending the cash at all because it could leave their balance sheets falling foul of the Basel regulations.

"If these funding routes are not reopened it will have massive consequences for the economy as a whole," he said. "It will make 1929 look like a walk in the park."

He dismissed as "window dressing" the move announced by central banks around the world this week to pump extra money into the money markets and increase the type of collateral they will accept in return, in an effort to get them running again.

"This won't get to the core of the problem: the fundamental lack of collateral. As these problems drag on, the consequences for the macro-economy of not relaxing [the Basel regulations] are unthinkable."

Not only do the regulations, which stipulate that banks must have a minimum of 8pc capital among their liabilities, deter banks from lending to each other, they will also limit the amount they can lend to households and businesses. This could escalate the anticipated economic downturn next year significantly, he said.

His warning follows a speech from Bank of England markets expert Paul Tucker, who said changes to these banking regulations were one of the weapons at his disposal in dealing with the credit crisis.

Prof Spencer said that although Basel II - an updated version of the accord - may loosen the regulation slightly, it is unlikely to be enough to improve the situation.

"The Bank is staring into the abyss," he said. "The Financial Services Authority must go round and check that all banks are solvent, and then it should cut the Basel capital requirement level from 8pc to about 6pc.

"Until then, with the money markets frozen, the Bank will have to go on being the lender of first resort, rather than of last resort."

[synergy777]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article3054213.ece

Citigroup under more strain as SIVs worth $49bn put on balance sheet

Tom Bawden in New York

Vikram Pandit, the new chief executive of Citigroup, has put his bank under further financial strain by bringing $49 billion (£24 billion) worth of high-risk off-balance sheet investments onto its books just as new analysis predicts it will need to take a $30 billion writedown on its loan portfolio next year.

In his first decisive move as Citigroup’s leader, Mr Pandit pledged to provide the necessary funds to keep afloat seven so-called structured investment vehicles (SIVs) - independent debt-financed entities – that the bank runs and is ultimately responsible for.

These kind of opaque funds are finding it virtually impossible to refinance their debt as the value of their mortgage-related securities declines. Many are being forced into a fire sale of assets to maintain their capital base, which is pushing prices down further.

The US Treasury is working with Citigroup, Bank of America and JP-Morgan Chase to set up a $100 billion fund to prop up prices by buying assets from the SIVs.

However, in what may prove an embarrassing failure for Henry Paulson, the US Treasury Secretary, Citigroup’s decision to back its SIVs has taken the already struggling bailout fund to the brink of collapse. It emerged last week that the fund had scaled down its ambitions to less than half the original target because it could not attract enough banks to participate in the scheme.

Citigroup’s move, which came despite repeated assurances that it would not bring the SIVs onto its balance sheet, removes the key beneficiary of the bailout fund, since the bank had the largest exposure to the vehicles on Wall Street.

Analysts said that despite Citigroup’s assurances that it “continued to support [the fund’s] formation”, it is unlikely to take its role as a key architect of the fund so seriously now that it will no longer require its services.

Citigroup has already announced that it expects to lose about $15 billion this year from declines in the value of sub-prime related investments.

It is expected to suffer further writedowns after taking the SIVs onto its books because of their exposure to bonds, backed by high-risk home loans, that are rapidly declining in value after a surge in defaults on the underlying mortgages.

But the bank is likely to suffer much larger writedowns next year, as defaults on mortgages, credit card debt and car financing are set to soar, according to new research by Institutional Risk Analytics, a US consultancy that examines banks’ balance sheets and assesses their financial risks.

Citigroup is expected to write down the value of its $740 billion loan portfolio by about 1 per cent, or $7.4 billion, this year as a result of defaults. In 2008, the write-offs will probably rise to about 4 per cent ($30 billion) or even 5 per cent ($37 billion), according to Chris Whalen, managing director of Institutional Risk Analytics. Mortgages make up about $250 billion of Citigroup’s loans, while credit cards account for a further $100 billion.

Mr Whalen said: “So far, the banking writedowns have been based on valuations of bonds and other investments. Next year it will be down to credit defaults in everything.”

A recent $7.5 billion cash injection by the Abu Dhabi Government will not be nearly enough if Citigroup wants to maintain its present credit rating. Instead, it will need to raise a further $15 billion to $20 billion to preserve its capital base, Mr Whalen said

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"We must NEVER FORGET the support these scumbags have had from the media. Every single masonic handshake in the scheme of things and the endless list of Sheisters that believe they are "only doing their job"

Those on the frontline of misrepresentation are those in the media. Enough said.

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Here are the latest reports from "Casper"

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197855546

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1197855638

Still thieving attempts going on over the Water.
Why hasn't someone got the balls over there to start arresting people??


Nifty:cool:

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“In past financial crises... the Fed has been able to wave its magic wand and make market turmoil disappear. But this time the magic isn’t working. Why not? Because the problem with the markets isn’t just a lack of liquidity — there’s also a fundamental problem of solvency.”

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs/news.php?q=1197998376

Closed doors I believe:cool:

Nifty:D

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Latest Christopher Story Update.

A Serious Quote

"This revelation that Israeli intelligence is split down the middle, just like the US, British, French and German intelligence communities, shows what a ghastly Black trauma the world is sliding into as these hideous intelligence cadres engage in their filthy intelligence war at the expense of the Rest of the World and the American people."

"Nice place to work, Citibank, where you are liable to be threatened with death by a senior member of the bank’s hierarchy."

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION THREATENS CITIBANK WITH CLOSURE

"At 4.00pm, a Federal Judge ordered the President to procure the release of CIA electronic data providing graphic information on widely publicised, abominable Nazi-style torture procedures, including waterboarding, that had been approved by the White House. The Judge has DEMANDED that he be provided with this information and evidence."

Paulson engaged in blatant blackmail against the President of the United States, using his knowledge of corrupt financial transactions referencing his father, to get what he wanted.

Questions rightfully asked:
"Why worship a President or a past President, if he is proven over and over again to be a feckless, dangerous crook who has no concept of the Rule of Law? What is the problem here? Are the Joint Chiefs frightened of these thugs? Is the US Judiciary so money-oriented that there is not a single Federal Judge or Supreme Court Justice left who has the guts to turn down bribes proffered by Cheney, Bush or Paulson?"

You have to read the full report here to see the depths of depravity this is at.
http://www.worldreports.org/news/107_warring_israeli_intel_threatens_rubin_with_dea th

Unbelievable LACK OF ACTION

Nifty:cool:

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Two updates one at 13.45hrs UK and at 1900hrs UK.
UPDATE, 20TH DECEMBER: 1.45PM UK TIME:

"The Editor is now of the private opinion, based upon incoming information from very authoritative sources since this report was posted, that NONE of the recipients has been paid. If that turns out to have been the case (and it requires verification), the business of Mrs Cabral signing off on 1,600 accounts will turn out to have been an elaborate smokescreen and charade, designed to buy more time and to throw us and others off balance."

"Update note: It's actually more complex than this: the payment obligations are real, and may well have been attempted, but 'presentation' of these details provided a smokescreen and cover for actual non-performance, except possibly in relation to certain payoffs. But the Editor's belief this morning that no-one was paid is corroborated by sources generally, and by the news, noted in the second update below, that the countries were NOT paid. As reiterated in the original posting here, any payments that might have preceded Wanta's payment would be illegal, since the underlying $27.5 trillion is his property as sole principal and no 'rectification' can occur outside the context of the agreed-upon compromise $4.5 trillion Settlement (plus interest and penalty add-ons)."

"To which we respond that despite the 'Black Fog' of lies and deliberate conflicting falsehoods we are having to expose, we are very unlikely to be thrown off-balance for long. Either way, as stated below, it is quite clear that all the outside parties mentioned in this and earlier reports are (a) being lied to, (b) lying to others, (c) tripping up over their own filthy lies, (d) being tripped up by the lies of many others, (e) either consciously or unwittingly allowing themselves to be used and (f) being manipulated by the arch liars and professional criminals who are content that the 'Black Fog' of lies that they have purposely generated since Paulson hijacked Ambassador Lee Wanta's funds in June 2006 is so dense that they can continue their 'business as usual' and perpetrate the endless crude scamming and fraudulent finance operations that they have perfected, with assumed impunity."

"They are wrong in making this assumption. According to one of our most impeccable sources, Paulson and Bush II were overheard telling associates yesterday that neither Wanta nor other recipients would be paid. This assertion will be shown to be wrong-headed, for reasons which cannot yet be elaborated upon. Not even the most demented of arrogant prima donnas can sustain such an inverted pyramid of lies if, despite rampant bribery, everyone who counts domestically and worldwide has had enough. And that threshhold was overshot several weeks ago."


UPDATE, 20TH DECEMBER: 7.00 PM UK TIME:

"It is now confirmed that the countries were NOT paid. Further, the fire in the Old Executive Office Building adjacent to Cheney's 'ceremonial room' started AFTER we posted the report below (about half an hour to 40 minutes afterwards). Sources specifically state that the timing of the fire was NOT a coincidence. It is reconfirmed that Israeli intelligence is involved, but a top source has said that the countermanding threat against Rubin Cube is not confirmed, leaving the threat that he would be liquidated if the payments did NOT proceed, confirmed. We are sorry that we have to report such horrible details, but that's where it's at (or was at, yesterday). There have been innumerable sensitive meetings ever since: no reliable details at present."

"Meanwhile the Ambassador has circulated a sharp reminder to the White House, Paulson, former Secretary of State James Baker, Vice President Cheney, Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey, First Lady Laura Bush, Mrs Lynne Cheney, Bobby Eberle, Martin Gillespie, Ed Gillespie, Mark Stephens, David Rexrode and others pointing out inter alia that Mr Bush's Texan 'bag man' will be expected to reimburse or to personally cover 'the United States' Treasury's massive losses' arising from these ongoing criminal financial irregularities, and pointedly reminding all recipients of his message that FOUR (4) enhanced INSLAW PROMIS-related investigative operating units have been systematically tracking the irregular transactions and thefts internationally, in order 'to protect and assure my personal/private Custodial Control and Civil Tax Obligations: referencing H.R. 3723'."

"Translated into the vernacular, the message is that the real-time, 24/7 monitoring of these illegal transcations internationally has never ceased, and that every corrupt theft and diversion of funds has been monitored and recorded, so that perpetrators who may have been imagining that they will survive the consequences of their banditry thanks to the abuse of the Presidential power to award pardons to criminal buddies (as Clinton did on a vast scale, as detailed in International Currency Review, Volume 33, #s 1 and 2), will be in for some very nasty surprises."

Extracts from the original report posted above:cool:

http://www.worldreports.org/news/107_warring_israeli_intel_threatens_rubin_with_dea th

UK Hero is this man Story along with Walson and people that MAKE a difference:rolleyes: God Bless them.

It strikes me here that it doesn't matter what comes of this, every bastard leader on the planet is involved in screwing HUMANITY for every ounce of money, blood and SOUL, in some way shape or form.
Bring on the end days and let the Creator sort them all out:mad:



Nifty:D

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seems to me that over the last few years certian people have been trying to make as much cash as they can as if they know what the future holds and it appears to be coming to a head were aproaching a big change in the world but its all planned and were just foolishly falling for it http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2007/08/28/how-did-we-get-into-this-mess/#more-1080

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Lyndon LaRouche report

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs/news.php?q=1198203080


Nifty:cool:

[swoarg]

any theorys on what the out come will be, in the uk foods going up in price along with every thing ellse but wages seem to be going down theres alot of people strugling to pay there bills and make ends meet council tax is realy stinging the average person and if you dont pay it you go to jail or get robbed by the debt collecter the goverment are building more jails but hospitals are closing confused: our roads are like farm tracks (hmm in some places ) you have to either risk braking your car or swerve around the pot hole and risk having an accident. aperently northern rock will cost 2000 qwid per uk adult just to keep it floating, most people are in debt upto there necks and if intrest rates go up then most will be stuffed and probably homeless the police have powers beyond belief there talking of changing the unemployment benafit system (you have to work) and taking thousands off invalidity benafit, whats going on:eek:

[synergy777]

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/9404/print

Banking Failure: When You're Already Dead, You Have Nothing to Lose
19 Dec 2007
December 19, 2007 (LPAC) – The staggering size of the $500 billion intervention by the European Central Bank is a clear sign of the panic gripping the global banking system as the banks struggle to balance their books at year's end. Aside from the fact that it exposes the bankers as the biggest pack of fools on the planet, there are two aspects of the plan worth mentioning. The first, the emergency cash injections into what are clearly bankrupt institutions, is obvious. Not as obvious, but equally important, is the type of collateral the central banks will accept in exchange for these loans.

The only thing standing between the banks and admitted insolvency is the way in which trillions of dollars of paper assets are being carried at artificially high values on the books of the banks and their clients, so maintaining these fictitious valuations is of crucial importance. This mass of "illiquid" mortgage-backed securities, CDOs and related paper ("illiquid" being a polite euphemism for "worthless") cannot be sold at anywhere near the book price. However, selling it for pennies or nickels on the dollar--assuming you can find a buyer at all--would result in setting a market price much lower than the book value, and thus trigger a wave of writedowns. To try to break this vicious cycle, the central banks are both flooding the banking system with liquidity to reduce the need for such sales, and also taking in big chunks of the illiquid paper as collateral, to pull it out of the market.

This is not a "credit crunch" which can be solved with cash. The problem is that the banks count as assets trillions of dollars of securities and bets which are essentially worthless, which means that the banks are hopelessly insolvent. Compared to the trillion-dollar holes in their balance sheets, a $500-billion handout is but a drop in the bucket. Since the financial system blew out this summer, the central banks and regulators have tried one trick after another to halt the collapse, and all have failed. This one will also fail. Rather than throwing more money down the rathole of a dead system, it is time to admit that the system has failed and adopt LaRouche's Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, as the first step toward genuine recovery.

***spot on, credit crunch = lack of finance/funds = lack of liquidity/illiquid, or insolvent. the words they use, lol

added to this the cdo ownership problems, no one knows who owns which mortgages, remember the deustche bank court case, they tried to repossess the houses, but realised they had sold the mortgages on in cdo's, and hence did not own the title.

also due to off balance sheet accounting, they got away with it. now basel 2 requires all off balance sheet investments to included, they are trying to create sivs (structured investment vechicles), but these will are mere title changes. the assets they hold have dropped in value, which would mean even bigger write downs, or losses in plain english.

which if declared would cause more problems, markets falls. people must realise central banks are lenders of last resort, eg the last lender. you only go to the last lender, when you have no money left or availabilty of finance is liimited. which means other banks will not lend to eachother, as they have to keep what funds they have in order to function/stay liquid-solvent and 2, they know its going to get worse and will not get their money back. then added to this is the libor rate, which makes it even harder for interbank lending. its bankrupt, this economic system, its just public disclosure would cause riots. look at northern rock, imagine this increased expotentially.

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any theorys on what the out come will be, in the uk foods going up in price along with every thing ellse but wages seem to be going down theres alot of people strugling to pay there bills and make ends meet council tax is realy stinging the average person and if you dont pay it you go to jail or get robbed by the debt collecter the goverment are building more jails but hospitals are closing confused: our roads are like farm tracks (hmm in some places ) you have to either risk braking your car or swerve around the pot hole and risk having an accident. aperently northern rock will cost 2000 qwid per uk adult just to keep it floating, most people are in debt upto there necks and if intrest rates go up then most will be stuffed and probably homeless the police have powers beyond belief there talking of changing the unemployment benafit system (you have to work) and taking thousands off invalidity benafit, whats going on:eek:

I think the time is near where by their policies will be 'If you want to live then WORK':eek:

[synergy777]

no their policy will be a new "safer" financial system, prs. basel 2 is part of this. it will also wipe out the middle class, which are the main oppenenst of the elite, as these have access to info, methods to protest against the elite. all revolutions from russia etc, wipe out the middle class, the elite want a two tier structure, them and us as slaves/proles.

its the middle class who with huge mortgages, pensions funds, investment trust/funds, credit cards, property investments/buy to let etc will suffer the most. a 10% decrease on 350k mortgage (35k) is more than 10% decrease on 150k (15k) mortgage. its about percentages/leverage.

this is why i intend to buy a house after, you will get bigger houses cheaper.

[synergy777]

interest rates effect yeild-value of currency, hence inflation. lower value of currency higher inflation.dropping interest rates will add to this, thus currency decreases, look the fed cuts and the value of the dollar, its the same as sterling. the elite have not invested time and money into the amero/euro for it to fail.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/december2007/211207Sterling.htm

http://uk.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUKL2132918320071221

Sterling falls towards all time low vs. euro
Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:04am GMT

LONDON (Reuters) - The pound homed in on an all-time low versus the euro on Friday as expectations of an interest rate cut on the back of a slowing economy led investors to sell the currency.

The pound held at its lowest in more than a year and a half on a trade-weighted basis as news on Wednesday that the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee was unanimous on this month's rate cut firmed investor conviction that more monetary easing is imminent.

"The (MPC) minutes are the most persuasive drivers this week. They voted decisively for a rate cut and the accompanying statement was also on the dovish side," said Kamal Sharma, currency strategist at Bank of America.

By 8:23 a.m., the euro was up 0.2 percent versus the pound having touched 72.46 pence, its highest since May 2003 and just shy of the 72.55 pence all-time high. The pound was up 0.2 percent versus the dollar at $1.9865.

On a trade-weighted basis the pound was steady at 98.9, its lowest since April 2006.

The BoE cut rates to 5.50 percent in December and further monetary easing is expected following a string of soft economic data with the current account deficit hitting a record 20 billion pounds.

"Cyclical and structural factors supporting the pound are eroding and a medium term decline for the pound looks likely," Sharma at BoA said.

Investors will look to retail sales data at 0930 GMT for clues on whether problems in the credit sector are affecting consumer spending. A poll by Reuters predicts a rise of 0.2 percent in November from a 0.1 percent dip the previous month.

The GfK consumer confidence measure for December due for release at 1030 will also be watched for signs of weakness. (Reporting by Simon Falush)

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Well it looks like GOOD news:p

Quotes from Casper:
"The SHOWDOWN resulted in extraordinarily severe threats from CHINA to GW/PAULSON which, we hear, caused them to fold and release WANTA's funds and our deliveries. Afterwards Madame WU was able to make final signoffs for CHINA which should result in deliveries today after ANOTHER worldwide release at 5p.m. yesterday."

"We hear the BUSH/Clinton crime syndicate have had ALL their program money confiscated. MERRY CHRISTMAS BOYS."

"Gordon Brown, Sarkozy, Merkle meeting apart from E.U. and ECB leaving the impression of a split with Brussels. All is quiet on the PROVOST/military front."

Remember the names people and link them together, TEAM SCUMBAGS.

F***ing SWEET!!!!!

"We hear we will be under the new banking system after Jan. 1st"

Full report here:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1198273734

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! LOVE & PEACE TO ALL:D

NIFTY:cool:

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Some later updates here, if you scroll down:

http://www.worldreports.org/news/107_warring_israeli_intel_threatens_rubin_with_dea th

Excerpts of which include:
"Developments on 20th-21st December were about to be described in a new report prepared overnight for this morning, when the Editor received a phone call asking for a postponement.
Given the nature of a deception operation carried out yesterday, and the consequences thereof, this is understandable, but the Editor will be negotiating later today to establish whether it might not be sensible to publish details of the latest abomination."


Nifty:cool:

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Christopher Story update.

Some Quotes:
"The sudden widespread use of the catchphrase ‘subprime’ mortgages since July 2007 has served the same purpose as your typical CIA ‘slide’ – that is to say, a prepackaged, ‘politically correct’ obfuscatory ‘take’ on a given set of circumstances that is formulated in such a way as to preclude further thought and investigation."

"More than 320,000 foreclosures were initiated during each of the first two quarters of 2007, most of which were related to subprime property loans, compared with the typical annual foreclosure level of 225,000 over the past six years. Approximately 16% of ‘subprime’ loans having adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs) were 90 days into default or in foreclosure proceedings, as of October 2007, which was triple the rate observed in 2005."

NORTHERN ROCK A CORRUPT DUMP FOR THE CRIME SYNDICATE
In the United Kingdom, the collapse of Northern Rock, in the first high street banking collapse to have occurred in Great Britain for 150 years, was accompanied by the machine politician’s worst nightmare – press pictures of customers lining the streets to pull their savings from the bank: and it was a direct consequence of the type of mortgage frauds described in this report.

The bank’s assets consisted inordinately of packaged, collectivised mortgage-backed, synthetic derivatives composed of ‘assets’ that were worthless and dumped on Northern Rock by associates of the Bush-Clinton crime syndicate because, thanks to Wantagate, it had become apparent within the financial community that no underlying property contracts ever existed. With its balance sheet skewed, the bank relied excessively on the interbank market for funds, which dried up as the crisis of confidence arising from Henry M. Paulson’s deliberate hijacking of the Wanta Settlement, spread throughout the banking community. And the Bank of England picked up the tab – sending shivers down the spines of central bankers facing similar problems elsewhere (Japan, for instance).:eek:



Full report here:
http://www.worldreports.org/news/108_subprime_slide_that_masks_fraudulent_finance


Nifty:cool:

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Christopher Story updates:)
Quotes:

The Editor has received the following confirmations of the accuracy of this report:

(1) From a respected US veteran lawyer/intelligence expert: ' Excellent report of 26 December, legal analysis is completely correct: the entire house of cards will fall on the criminals...'.*

(2) From a victim of mortgage fraud and foreclosures: 'You nailed it BIG time. Yes, this is exactly how it works at that level. The practice of triple-noting is just an add-on 'value added' element of the constructive fraud on the first set of documents'.

Read the rest of the updates here:

http://www.worldreports.org/news/108_subprime_slide_that_masks_fraudulent_finance

Some big news imminent, methinks:cool:


Nifty:D

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Latest Casper Updates (30th Dec) here:D

Quote:
The newspaper says an arsonist set fire to Senior's former home (now a museum) in Odessa, Texas in the wee hours of Thursday morning. The rumor du jour for that and the previous day, however, first came from London, later from China and Australia that Jr., upon his return to the ranch from Camp David where he spent Christmas day, found a severed horse's head in his bed.:eek::eek:

Basel II is, we hear, still scheduled for the 1st and, we hear, announcements no later than Thursday night.

The Chinese are very heavily involved now having sent a large contingent to the U.S. last weekend. Remember, it was the Ming dynasty heirs who provided the "bridge financing" to constitutional Treasury and China which moved Wanta's money into the U.S. in 2006 and subsequently bought B.A. private banking from Q & Merkle. We don't understand all that we know about this stuff except to say that all signals over a long period of time point to China supporting the American people and their return to their constitutional government at the expense of the unconstitutional corporate U.S. (literally incorporated) and their illuminati new world order allies which are the Fed Res, the banks, the multi-nationals, Carlyle, CFR, Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton??, Cheney, Paulson, Chertoff and most of Congress all of which have cooperated in the sellout of their country in pursuit of money and power.

Full Report here
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1199059000

Now you have to ask why are the Chinese so interested in helping the American people?:confused::confused:

Does anyone smell a rat here?

Nifty:D

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At last the Truths are starting to trickle through:cool:
Wait for the big bang it really wont be that far now.:eek:
Lyndon LaRouche Report

Quote:
"The miserable state of the British economy should alert any sane person that it is time to break from the Anglo-Dutch financier system--it is finished. The British financial press only lets out the dirty secret one drop at a time--revealing today that London commercial real estate is the about to collapse, and declaring that the "sub-prime is a red herring," according to commercial property agent DTZ, quoted in the Torygraph."

"Sub-prime is a red herring. It was simply the most stretched segment of an over-stretched debt market. As such, it has to be seen as a catalyst rather than the cause of the recent turmoil," a DTZ spokesman said. The volume of UK commercial transactions fell by 25% in 2007 to 48 billion pounds, and since the summer, prices in certain sectors of the market have fallen by 26%."

"The bankrupt banks are pulling out of commercial property fast. The estate agent Savills reported that 8 of the 97 lenders in the United Kingdom are already out of the real estate sector; another 11 more are "reluctant" to lend and almost 30 will only lend on a "qualified" basis for commercial property deals. Who are these banks that have slammed the door? Savills wouldn't say, but the Torygraph says "they are believed to include Credit Suisse, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, Deutsche Bank and Barclays Capital..." which have all, themselves, been dipping into emergency "helicopter money" to survive."

Full report here:http://www.larouchepac.com/node/9529/print


Nifty:D

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Now some staggering events over in USA

Latest Christopher Story Report.

Quotes:

"On or around Friday 28th December 2007, Henry M. Paulson Jr., Secretary of the US Treasury, was shot at close range in the chest. He was reported to be in a critical condition on New Year’s Eve, and was thought unlikely to make it overnight. At about 7.00pm UK time on 1st January 2008, Henry Paulson was still alive, with the bullet lodged in his chest. Sources stated that he was too weak to be operated upon, which implied that he was thought unlikely to survive."

"On Saturday 29th December 2007, a close aide of Vice President Richard Cheney, in his mid-40s, was shot at close range in the chest, and died."

"President George Bush Sr. (a.k.a. ‘41’, or ‘the Godfather’) was recently arrested and held in custody for at least three days. It is not known whether he is still in custody, but what IS known is that Bush Sr. is believed no longer to be a ‘threat’, given that his card and other access to stolen funds is now precluded. His accounts were reportedly frozen some considerable time ago."

"Reports that President George Bush Jr. found a severed horse’s head inside his bed at Crawford, Texas, before Christmas, are hereby confirmed. The head was severed from one of Bush Jr.’s most prized and cherished horses, worth an estimated $350,000"

"It is a fact, however, that Henry Paulson received, we are told, repeated warnings that he must immediately cease and desist from blocking the Wanta and ‘country’ payments, and from his blackmail threats. He paid no attention to any of these warnings."

Full Report here: http://www.worldreports.org/news/109_henry_paulson_critical_after_being_shot_in_the _chest_

How are the media whores going to cover this up or report it?:cool::cool:

Nifty:eek:

[cruise4]

Its like some kind of online adventure game with weekly clues and updates.
Whether real or not, nothing makes better reading than this Wantagate stuff:D

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Reported in a separate thread here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16919

But inextricably linked to this Banking Fraud thread, hence the post here.

Henry M. Paulson, the Secretary of the United States Treasury, died today from gunshot wounds suffered as described in this report. The State Department have confirmed this to sources in touch with this service.

UPDATE, 6.00PM 2ND JANUARY 2008:
We have received separate confirmations from military sources that the figure of 127 stated below for the number of 'targets' in the United States (excluding Europe) is ACCURATE. We have also just learned that the fire at the Bush Family property in Odessa, Texas, was associated with a further Special Forces operation to retrieve Bush Family documents hidden there. In the text below, the Editor suggested that documents might be stored there, and this proves to be correct.



Nifty:cool:

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Cover up expected.
Quote:
"UPDATE, 11.30PM 2ND JANUARY 2008:
2 informed sources state authoritatively that the official intention is to claim that Paulson died of a heart attack. The way that he died has been verified by intelligence, official, diplomatic, military and personal sources. A separate source close to the Paulson family has also confirmed that Paulson died on 2nd January and that the cause was precisely as stated in this report and Updates. As is always the case in such circumstances, a tentative operation is being mounted to claim that our report is false. This is tantamount to asserting that the Editor is a liar which (a) is fatuous given the record of these reports and (b) will have serious consequences if so asserted. There is also the usual category of people who are still at the elementary stage of not believing anything unless it's in the 'mainstream' press. These doubting Thomases ought to take the trouble to look up Operation Mockingbird, the veteran CIA operation to control the media in the United States. And finally, when reporting intelligence-related matters, constraints applicable to what may be stated, do apply. We only report what is in the public domain. By definition, if the information were not made available to us, it could not be reported. We would not report such information unless verified by our sources. Journalists do not reveal their sources when asked to do so. The sources are always confidential."

An addition to the original full report posted above.

Lets see how this pans out then:eek:


Nifty:cool:

[lizzy]

Did Cheney go hunting again? Opps .oh dear just killed my ex-buddy.

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Quotes:
"It has been confirmed by multiple sources. One of the Directors of ATG worked with Paulson at Goldman Sachs. He watched P go off the rails from June 06 onwards, and was at first taken in, believing that P was 'filling in the holes'. He knows the family and the wife. A contact of mine spoke to him today (intermediary between me and him). He instantly confirmed that Mr P died today. He also states that they haven't announced it because they don't know what to do. I have had emails from other sources saying: 'It's true'. Most of all, MC tells me that the Gold Badges read the report and had NO CRITICISM OF ANYTHING THEREIN AT ALL.

"Allegedly Sec. of the U.S. Treasury Paulson has been
: terminated.., and further it is alleged there are 127 more
: individuals who were involved in all of this "at the
: top" BILLIONAIRE BOYS CLUB operation who are targeted
: for 'termination'.. Considering these individuals are
: MEMBERS OF A CLUB which originated at the WORLD TRADE
: TOWERS and operated under Treaties international agreements
: other than treaties Section 12087 which allowed them to be
: ABOVE ALL LAW and not subject to Congressional
: Oversight..wheeling and dealing around the world in total
: disregard for the health, safety and general welfare of the
: global communities..conducting Predatory Banking, stealing
: 2/3rds of the Worlds Natural Resources..and laughing in the
: faces of the Victims..much the same as NEIL BUSH did to me
: when I objected to his attempts to take my 13,520 Acres of
: Gold Property.., and when I objected the arrogant bastard
: walked around the table and said: "Don't the old fool
: know who I am!? Don't she know we can take it all and there
: is not a God dammed thing she can do about it?!

: And that is the 'prevailing' attitude of these BILLIONAIRE
: BOYS CLUB MEMBERS.. "We can take it all and there is
: not a God dammed thing anyone can do about it."

Full Report:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=116220

Nifty:cool:

[ennui]

Everyone seems to be repeating this Henry Paulson has been shot story as fact, but where's the proof? It hasn't even been announced that he's dead. In fact he's supposed to be giving a speech Monday so we'll find out for sure then.

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What do you think might happen if it is announced now??

As the major thief of the Federal Reserve of America and one of Bush's right hand men, don't you think it might just kick off a massive financial crash with worldwide repercussions??

It will be announced at the weekend IMO or at least late Friday, when people can let it sink in over the weekend before going into panic mode ;)

At which point the lies can be concocted and the media prepared over Saturday and Sunday.

Then the Lies and cover ups will come out:o

Nifty:cool:

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Lyndon LaRouche Report.
Quote:
"January 2, 2008 (LPAC)--With ripples from the financial crash already hitting the real U.S. economy and companies, it will only take a rise in corporate debt defaults to 5% from the current 1.4%, to blow up a derivatives market far larger than anything that has crashed so far. This is the $45-50 trillion mass of financial derivatives called credit default swaps (CDS), which have ballooned tenfold in three years, and are called "the next domino" in the crash for early 2008 by one New York financial manager, who says it will be "far more severe" than anything that has happened so far in the mortgage meltdown and otherwise."

Full report here:
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/business/economy/news.php?q=1199421264


Nifty:D

[boots]

Everyone seems to be repeating this Henry Paulson has been shot story as fact, but where's the proof? It hasn't even been announced that he's dead. In fact he's supposed to be giving a speech Monday so we'll find out for sure then.

I have the same feeling to I've heard a lot of talk about the Leo Wanta thing I don't think it is true but then again I do hope that it is for it will expose the lies of these criminals and then things can come to a head and be sorted out.
NIFTY!
One thing bugs me Nifty WHY has Leo Wanta not been eliminated, they have had him in jail and probably many opportunities to do this?:confused:

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A good site explaining what Wanta is about.

A true American HONEST hero.

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070119.htm

Please read it thoroughly to get a fair idea of what this man stands for.

Quote:
"The story of how Ambassador Leo Wanta was commissioned by President Reagan to make $trillions for the American people in shrewd (but legal) currency trading that concentrated on buying Russian rubles at a discount to destabilize the Soviet economy surfaced in 1992. The Wanta story was recently revived on the Investigative Journal by Greg Syzmanski through interviews with Ambassador Wanta broadcast on the Republic Broadcast Network. As it turns out, British financial news publisher Christopher Story has published the documents in evidence giving credence to what is arguably the most important story in recent memory. As you will see, several poorly-reported incidents during the 90s helped to bury the Wanta story as a tall-tale. As events unfold and independent researchers put the pieces together, Ambassador Wanta is emerging as a real man whose activities produced $trillions that are stashed away in real banks and invested in real properties. If this story is true—and the evidence is becoming unavoidably compelling—then it will not be long before all the world will know."


I dont know why they didnt knock him off, obviously they must have needed him:rolleyes:

As for Paulson, well, time is ticking away and only time will tell.
This could be a move to totally discredit Christopher Story as he has caused "them" problems over the banking exposure.
If he is dead then it does in fact prove all of Christopher Story's reports beyond doubt.
As I have mentioned above, the only time I would announce Paulsons death would be at close of play of the markets Friday, then the panic wont be able to set in. The weekend would alow it to sink in and this would also give the media time to prepare the statutory bullshit and lies for the sheeple.

Alternatively they may start showing footage of Paulson over the next few weeks as though he is alive until it suits them.:eek: Because we ALL know that Bin Laden is still alive and avoiding the CIA, dont we:D:D

Nifty:cool:

[boots]

Hi Nifty, I've had a person who i can trust give me info as to the credibility to the Leo Wanta and Chris Story. Hope it is all systems Go

God it would be a laugh to see these bastards take a swift kick in the groin.

I wait with batted breath to see what happens.

Well if nothing changes then we will see other high level people going to meet there maker, and if we dont then there is something fishy about this.

Have you heard of Benjamin Fulford? Do you think this ties into this?

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Latest full report from Casper:rolleyes:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1199507813

Quote:

"The Paulson situation is a riddle wrapped in an enigma. There he sits at the conference table with Bush today on national television. We have at least as many sources as STORY claiming he is deceased and today's video a fraud. One source says the family acknowledged his passing the day it happened. Military sources, banking sources, even WIKIPEDIA said it's true, he's gone. The WIKIPEDIA obit, right below his picture, was removed within hours of posting. Another source said the family was making funeral arrangements. Others speak of a "stand in", even a clone. Fox news and all present at the meeting of economic advisors would have to be in on the scam"


Boots,
Any supporting info would be useful;) As for Fulford, yes I have heard of him and I believe that the world powers have all had enough of Bush.

Nifty:cool:

[boots]

Sorry Nifty, but I do not have any concrete proof as to the validity of the Wanta case (the person I trust is a clairvoyant).

I've read the material from the NESARA site and others that relates to this (by the way there are 2 NESARA's one controlled by the CIA and one that was true in it attempt to change the financial system but failed) and other e-mails people send me.

Well IMO the Illuminati are in turmoil for there are many faction in these groups that fight for the top position and the Neo Cons have been making squilions from Iraq upsetting the European branch and then you have the Asian groups that Fulford talks about in the middle and on the rise in economic terms. I speculate here but this maybe the reason why Wanta has not been "done in" he's being used and protected at the same time.
It is well known that there are doubles for the top political leaders and no doubt for others of important's so yes it is possible. For pox news, well we all know there a lap dog for the shadow Government/Neo Cons, as much credibility as fungus on a turd.

The banks are basically broke and scrambling to get money.I see in Australia two banks have gone against the recommendation of the Reserve bank and lifted there interest rates WTF not making enough money as it is, bullshit somethings wrong?

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Casper Update

The line is drawn;)

Today will bring major changes to the planet:eek:

Quote:"The response today was for the Basel II authorities, China and others to order the closing and lock down of U.S. banks which had signed onto Basel II. CITI was simultaneously ordered to pay Wanta today or be closed tonight (permanently). Rubin tried everything to delay, in the end Bush told CITI to pay rather than be closed and they did."

"Announcements within hours of delivery beginning with the Constitution. Bush was informed he would not be able to access the stolen funds in Israel and Dubai and two other locations which was the primary purpose of his trip. He went ballistic, ranting and raving only to be told "this is it, all U.S. banks under Basel II will be closed if you don't comply right now"

"Our intell is that the PAULSON you see on T.V. is a clone. We do not get our intell from STORY, but we hear STORY was correct that BUSH had Paulson whacked due to blackmail probably involving the accounts over there which were in Paulson's name.

Full report : http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1199850400


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Christopher Story Update;)

Quote:
"THE STATE DEPARTMENT CONFIRMED THAT PAULSON DIED: BUSH CONTRADICTED THEM
CITIBANK ORDERED TO SETTLE TODAY, OR ITS ASSETS WILL BE SEIZED AND FROZEN
WASHINGTON BLOODBATH WILL CONTINUE IF SETTLEMENTS KEEP BEING FRUSTRATED
SENSITIVE INTELLIGENCE CENSORED FROM THIS REPORT, PENDING SETTLEMENT TODAY"
"Paulson, Kimmitt and one further high US Treasury official WERE SHOT: that is CONFIRMED (see below). Then, on the back of these horrible facts, Cheney's desperate disinformation apparat built a 'Black Ops' 'sting', to the effect that Paulson was dead. (We don't really know, despite 'postmortem appearances', whether he is or not: but this is now a diversion: see what follows). Why, given that the shootings took place, was it 'necessary' to build a 'sting' (a possible 'lie' that Paulson was dead) on the back of that fact? The answer to this has now become clear. It is this:

• Post-settlement, THERE IS TO BE ENDLESS SILENCE. The few despised 'alternative media' outlets that have tried to expose this historically unprecedented financial criminality are to be left out to dry. Now, in the cases of several outlets based in the United States, the relevant 'forces' can do any number of things: cease payments, withdraw handlers, harrassment, threats, whatever. But what can they do to silence us (within reason, and given our background and connections)? The answer is: NOT A LOT. So, as usual, 'they' resort to the only game 'they' know: DIRTY TRICKS.

• Since 'they' want total silence to reign for ever, and a veil to be drawn across this evil, stinking theatre of criminality, the ideal solution for them would be to try to discredit the only sources that have led this hideous information into the public domain. So they tried it on, by elaborating on the shootings and possibly lying that Paulson had died. (We still don't know what happened to Kimmitt, by the way: see hard evidence of something very nasty, below)."
"$44+ trillion was stolen and moved to Europe behind this smokescreen (OR: an attempt to do this was perpetrated, which was partially successful but which has since been frustrated). The primary recipient institution involved was BNP (Banque Nationale de Paris, Paribas). This means that the eight Paribas bankers who were arrested, as we reported earlier, had corrupt accomplices who remained in place, and whose services were activated in connection with the illegal transfer of stolen funds being reported here".
"Citibank in Hong Kong is virtually owned by the Chinese, who hold approximately 90% of its so-called 'assets' (debt-backed assets). Therefore the Chinese authorities would have no problem actually causing the demise of Citibank, and were more than entitled to take whatever action they might deem appropriate in the light of the outrageous and despicable last-minute $44+ trillion (in the aggregate) theft that was perpetrated (or attempted) under cover of the 'redirection' operation surrounding the Paulson shooting and 'death' farrago."
"That would quickly trigger a 50+% drop in the US standard of living. However we believe that the massive pressure that has been brought to bear (mainly by this service, in respect of the public domain) may have 'done the trick' and that the Lee Wanta and 'linked' settlements will have been implemented just in the nick of time."
"the hyper-corrupt President N. Sarkozy of France, of Hungarian Jewish background (2), was supervising safe receipt of the funds stolen in recent days behind the Paulson ‘Black Ops’ smokescreen. There is also a new corrupt Jordanian connection about which the Editor has yet to be informed."

Further in the report:

"For instance, since the First Gulf War, some 500,070 veterans and other personnel have fallen ill with so-called Gulf War Syndrome, caused not (as some allege) by aspartame in Coca Cola (which turns into formaldehyde in conditions of great heat), while some 15,000 of their number have died from cancer and other conditions triggered by exposure to depleted uranium. The British Ministry of Defence is criminally covering up a similarly deplorable state of affairs in respect of depleted uranium-related illnesses among British military personnel.


Full report Here:
http://www.worldreports.org/news/111_paulson_diversion_masked_theft_of_44_trillion

Nifty:cool:

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Quotes:
"CITI didn't take care of business or Wanta as instructed resulting in "closure orders" and seizing of their assets as threatened.
They are to suffer a "reorganization" as a result as will B.of A. shortly.
They appear to have intended a last minute theft of the Wanta funds as GW stopped by N.Y.before departing for Israel only to find the computers frozen early evening yesterday.
The best laid plans of rats in a sack thwarted again. Very important banking meetings have been underway in Europe all day and tonight dealing with this crisis of domestic bank closure's beginning with today's activities at CITI and the approaching closure of B.ofA. (employees will be protected).
This is "home office/top management" stuff. Only the very top officials at B.A. know about this and have yet to inform their management teams (according to half a dozen Euro Bankers providing us this information)."

"The deliveries are delayed until tomorrow and the breaking news regarding D.C. scandals, possibly including the "suitcase", are rescheduled for Friday.:confused:
Announcements will likely be continuous through the weekend after beginning tomorrow night or Friday as they endeavor to preclude a run on the banks Monday by force feeding the public enough info to calm the waters."

Full Report :http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1199939854



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UPDATE, 10TH JANUARY:
Quotes:
"It has been alleged that the report below suggests that our report dated 2nd January to the effect that Paulson died, which preceded all other published reports to that effect, was hereby amended.
Careful attention should be paid to what we stated below. Specifically, we detailed the sources for all the information that we had received on this subject, as a direct result of which exposure, the orchestrated campaign of denigration that was focused on us by the rats, suddenly ceased. That happened because, since we had exposed their 'Black Op', they had no choice. It should also be understood that a 'Black Op' can be superimposed upon another 'Black Op', so that whether the rat in question is dead or not makes no difference to the functioning of the 'Black Operation'.

The forensic evidence that is being accumulated makes it quite clear that the controlled video and other recorded evidence of what happened has been DOCTORED, BIG TIME: and that should make it self-evident that THE FACTS OF THE MATTER ARE BEING DOCTORED, AS WELL."

"LIKELY SCENARIO: ISRAEL: BOMB IRAN WITH US, AND WE'LL HAND YOUR MONEY BACK
10th January, early morning UK time: We are receiving indications, as yet unconfirmed, that a total sum aggregating $43 trillion was stolen and transferred to Israel: if that is not the case, this was the intention; or else the funds are controlled by Israeli interests. Should this turn out to be accurate, then the geopolitical scenario is almost certainly as follows. Israel is blackmailing the United States, with the assistance of traitors inside Citibank and elsewhere in the US banking system, and in the White House and the Treasury, to force the issue of bombing Iran, which the whole world believes would be an act of the most extreme folly imaginable. In other words, Israel may be saying to the United States: Bomb Iran, and then we'll return the money. Not before. Let's hope this assessment is dead wrong. But if it isn't, you can imagine the multiple adverse consequences that may ensue.

Now wouldn't that be a timely distraction to this affair:mad:

an update to the Full report posted above.
http://www.worldreports.org/news/111_paulson_diversion_masked_theft_of_44_trillion

Interesting that Bernanke was bullshitting on Bloomberg just earlier, and then everyone applauding him as if there's absolutely nothing wrong and the Fed reserve have things under control:(.
Yeah Right you do, liar. Bleeding everyone on the way out as well:cool:

I reckon CS should blow the whole info on them and really give them something to think about and keep them very occupied;)

Nifty:D

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Well I have followed this banking thread with total absorption, believing that the stories are real and checking out the evidence for hours and hours.:(
I have now got to the stage where this is so protracted that I am starting to think whether it is ALL CIA disinformation bullshit:mad:
Or is it Dying days of the CABAL?

Here is the latest "CASPER" report in full:

"Casper 1-11-08
We often say "we don't know everything". Today we are wondering if we know anything.

Our "sources" have been built up over many years and most are now friends. Many are in the programs, therefore we have common interest with many sources around the world even though we don't know them personally.

Our sources are widespread and diverse, i.e. here and there and way over there and are bankers, lawyers, judges, military, trustees, investors, and on and on and on and you get the picture.

It is inconceivable, as a general statement, that our sources would lie to us. And so, when things don't happen as expected one of two things are responsible. The first, although possible, is unlikely i.e. that "they" are so capable of spreading disinformation that all sources, within every involved discipline, worldwide, simultaneously, buys into and then repeats to us the "dis-info du jour" which we then regurgitate to you. The second and far more likely scenario is that "stuff happens", sometimes on levels which have little or nothing to do with us and yet delayed deliveries are the outcome. Examples are theft and retrieval of funds, readiness of banks, readiness of new banking systems, interference from BUSH or others, economic/political warfare between power centers, liquidity, audits, codes safe and operable, and on and on and on the list goes.

Deliveries were supposed to be today. For sure. For certain. They were to begin at 10 a.m. central. This intell came from widespread and diverse sources. This intell was accurate we think. What happened ???

Are you ready for this ?? CHINA/MING stopped it.

After disparaging BUSH/PAULSON et al for the illegal trading of our funds they put our money, all money into trade last night intending to use the profits to fund B.A.'s acquisition of Countrywide and clean up some problems inside CITI. They got caught. The trade has been liened and will likely be abandoned as a result. Their response? "Now that we have been caught we will get the packs out immediately". Bullchit. Our "friends" the Chinese can no longer be trusted. Remember, they own B.A. private banking. Remember, B.A. has the U.S. funds distribution contract obtained from Chase a decade ago when Rocky got caught with both hands in OUR cookie jar when B.A. was Nations/Charlotte before merging with and changing their name to B.A..
The packs to be delivered today supposedly contained two large checks which we were to deposit in the B.of A. bank we are being directed into-----NOT THE 29 TREASURY BANKS AS EXPECTED.
That was a big red flag we learned about late last night, now comes the news that the OWNER of this well known totally corrupt C.I.A. institution is trading our funds for self enrichment while simultaneously expecting us to deposit the checks with them thereby, we think, we are fairly sure, giving them access to our accounts.
Then we learn, from other sources, that the 50 to 60 pages of "instructions" contained in the packages at the door or awaiting our arrival at the banks were prepared by BUSH'S people not someone concerned with our interest. No wonder there is so much secrecy. No wonder lie's fly like confetti all through the banks here and over there.
WE have been told before that CHINA and even BRUSSELS were involved in the delays and chose to bury our (my) head in the sand because, after all, somebody is on our side, surely, or we would not be receiving at all. No doubt there are aspects of this we cannot see and do not understand. What we do see is, at a minimum, the appearance of corruption and entrapment by the lead bank in the U.S. in collaboration with BUSH and, we are sorry to say, the MING.

What next? What now? Lord only knows.

Our GUESS is that this was/is a last minute scamming operation approved by the "powers that be" for the purpose of feathering their own nest. Fortunately "WE" have allies who are capable of blocking these attempted trades and they have done so. They may go ahead and deliver the packs this weekend or they may not. There has been talk that "they" need the big checks deposited to actually kickstart Basel II. Under the circumstances how can we?? WE must "flip-flop" again, advising you to go to your designated bank, pick up your package and boogie right on out of there. Use your two immediately accessible cards (six figures) to go offshore and deposit your big checks and do your accessing there. Remember that the banker you meet with is unlikely to know any of this so don't take it out on him. He MUST give you your package. He has no choice. Be polite, take your pack and go. Naturally the shyster's will read this also so expect them to come up with some superfluous garbage storyline.

If you hear, for example, about another 20T in recovered funds which had to be downloaded, that is true but unrelated to this blockage of deliveries. Also, we have said before that it was the Peoples Republic which bought B.A. private banking, today we are informed it was the MING.

If there is a better or more accurate or more enlightened interpretation of the overnight events described herein please bring it forward.

And to LEWIS at B.A., the DRS (dirty rotten scoundrels) at CITI and especially to the MING and BUSH we say; What you have done, and continue to do, to hundreds of thousands of innocent citizens, is just about the sorriest, sickest, cruelest most despicable acts imaginable, and you are waist deep in other people's blood, whether you realize it or not. All you are accomplishing is to convince all of us, including your own employee's, is to take all funds offshore and to stay as far away from you as humanly possible. If you had a lick of common sense, any of you idiots, you would not have alienated this particular customer base.

casper 1-11-08"



Remember the names: Bushes, Clintons, Brown, Blair, Sarkosy, Rumsfeld, Cheney. ILLUMINATI PUPPETS all.

THEY AINT WON THOUGH BECAUSE THE CABAL are in their END DAYS!!!!!!


It doesn't matter where they go or what they try....THEY ARE FUCKED:D
Goodnight and Godbless you because GOD is BLESSING you at present..SCUMBAGS;)

You cant run or hide anymore, days are done and so are YOU...hehehe.
When YOU realise that MONEY doesn't mean a thing compared to LOVE, FAITH , HUMANITY and CARE, then you will have learned. Until then SUFFER:p

With LOVE to you all ;)

Christopher Story...ROLL on the information, "THEY" are playing on you all along the way.
If you really respect HUMANITY, then tell everything...every time you hold back you give them more time.
Give "THEM" something to think about and turn the cards.PLEASE

NIFTY:D:D:D:D

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Latest from Christopher Story:)

Quotes:
"BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION OF POLITICIANS AT HOME AND ABROAD

LANGLEY: THE GEORGE BUSH CENTER FOR GLOBAL CORRUPTION

CITIBANK SLUSH FUND POLITICAL BENEFICIARIES NAMED

WHY THE CRIMS FAKED THE NEW HAMPSHIRE CAUCUS RESULT

$43-$44 TRILLION STOLEN UNDER COVER OF THE PAULSON DIVERSION

ARE THEY PREPARING A COVER-UP VIA ANOTHER GROTESQUE ABOMINATION?

IS ISRAEL BLACKMAILING THE UNITED STATES BY HOLDING ONTO STOLEN FUNDS?"

"The US Dark Forces led by Godfather Bush Sr., George Bush 43, Mk-Ultra (‘Himmler’) Cheney, the ‘late’ Henry M. Paulson, the late Robert M. Kimmitt, and their collaborators and partners in High Crimes and Misdemeanours, former President William Jefferson Clinton and Hillary Rodomski Clinton, have been desperately seeking, with the enthusiastic assistance of their co-conspirator Robert Rubin at Citibank, and the other US criminal financial institutions led by the CIA’s Bank of America, to torpedo the implementation of Basel II, since it defangs their corruption at the source, causing the criminal kleptocracy immense problems for the future."

"GEORGE BUSH SR.’S HOUSTON-BASED BAG MAN EXPOSED
In charge of the distribution of bribe money from the stolen funds is a CIA operative working for Godfather Bush Sr. who calls himself Marvin Davis. This man is not the same Marvin Davis who previously operated as Bush Sr.’s bag man, who is dead. The man in question is, as indicated, a CIA operative, a.k.a. Bush Sr.’s (late) bag man – that is to say, another cynical CIA criminal intelligence operative standing in for and passing himself off as the late Marvin Davis."

"Like the fake CIA operative calling himself Marvin Davis, this Jorge E. Brown, Trustee of the front operation called Delmarva Timber Trust, worked out of Houston, Texas. Specifically, he operated from 7333 Harwin Drive, Suite 110, Houston, Texas 770042. Delmarva Timber Trust was used as cover for the handling of stolen funds, money laundering and drug-trafficking, and also directly connected the Clintons with the Bush Crime Family.

Jorge E. Brown was known as George Brown (Jorge in Panama).

Godfather Bush Sr.’s long-established practice is, wherever possible, to perpetrate his financial crimes and thefts through a cut-out – in this case, the current CIA operative ‘bag man’ using the alias Marvin Davis, who has been paying off corrupt politicians at home and abroad. Beneficiaries of the largesse of the fake Mr Marvin Davis may well include present and former Presidents and Heads of Government, and possibly also President Sarkozy, Bush Jr.’s new highest-level partner in High Financial Crimes and Misdemeanours. Nicolas Sarkozy supervised receipt of the stolen $44 trillion at Paribas (see the preceding report) on behalf of Godfather Bush, we are told."

"BENEFICIARIES OF THE CITIBANK SLUSH FUNDS
The website www.fourwinds10.com has been publishing an incomplete ‘summary’ of Wantagate attributed to Alcuin Bramerton, using a btinternet.com email address, implying a British connection. The text of this summary, which is being extended incrementally, uses a Russian form – e.g. ‘the USA Vice President Dick Cheney’, ‘the USA Provost Marshal’, ‘the USA President’ and ‘the USA Vice President’, ‘the USA Army Chief of Staff’. Of course no-one in Britain or America ever adds the ‘A’ when ‘US’ is employed as an adjective.

This source has very extensively credited ‘Christopher Story’s Global Analysis reports’ but not specifically, so that anyone reading that text cannot, without a great deal of research, establish which statement is attributable to this website, and which comes from elsewhere.

This is a well-known obfuscation technique, and we caution anyone relying on THAT text to rely on THIS website for the definitive text of what we have published, so that the Editor of this service is not cited as having published this or that statement, when that is not the case. For instance, to cite a small inaccuracy, ‘Bramerton’ states that only two officers of AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc. attended Citibank’s offices at 399 Park Avenue on 20th November 2007, whereas there were more than two of them: ‘others’ were present as well.

There are other ‘facts’ which have been misrepresented in this study. For instance, the early history of Wantagate, and the Editor’s involvement therein, is omitted altogether – leaving the researcher who is using this secondary source in the dark as to the origins of this saga."


Full Report here:http://www.worldreports.org/news/112_bush_criminal_operation_to_sabotage_basel_ii

Interesting reading:cool:

Nifty:(

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Quote:
"By Katherine Griffiths, Philip Aldrick and Helen Power
Updated: 1:43am GMT 12/01/2008

The Government has all but ruled out a commercial rescue for Northern Rock after conceding that funding for a deal cannot be found.

It is understood bankers who have been working for weeks to put together a private £15bn debt funding package have thrown in the towel, leaving the Government to find another solution, though negotiations with bidders including Virgin and Olivant about some form of a sale continue.

As the Newcastle-based lender enters the last few days before a showdown with shareholders at an emergency meeting in Newcastle on Tuesday, the Treasury's adviser, Goldman Sachs, has been locked in discussions with the Tripartite Authorities.

Goldman updated Northern Rock's board on the Government's progress last night, but is not expected to inform the board of the company's fate until the end of next week.

Options on the table include full nationalisation or the Government leaving its funding in place for an extended period in a move that would require approval from Brussels, although it is understood the Government has had an initial steer from the European Union that approval would be given.

Citigroup, Deutsche Bank and Royal Bank of Scotland have been poring over Northern Rock's books for several months, but it looks increasingly certain they cannot lend up to £15bn to a bidder on terms that would be acceptable to bidders.

One banker said: "It was always 50:50. That now looks significantly less likely. Collateralised mortgage assets are not flavour of the month." Bidders are also growing increasingly dubious that lending banks will put up the £10bn-£15bn of funding they had indicated might be provided.

However, it is thought the Government could choose to leave the Bank of England loan in place, which would require an application to the European Union.

The Government may demand some kind of equity warrant so the taxpayer participates in the upside if the bank recovers, possibly in the form of a "golden share". (What unmitigated tripe -- the taxpayer always gets the same deal put to them all the time, everytime, and without interruption.)

Meanwhile, Northern Rock yesterday attempted to show it is taking steps to address its sickly state, selling a portfolio of equity release mortgages to JP Morgan Chase at a premium to its balance sheet value. The portfolio is worth £2.2bn, and Northern Rock will make a £50m profit on the sale. The move will enable it to repay almost £2.3bn of the Bank of England's £26bn.

The move was seen as an encouraging sign, but analysts noted that Northern Rock had sold one of its most attractive portfolios.

Trustees of Northern Rock's pension scheme are attempting to set up safeguards. They have asked the company to place members on the same footing as depositors by setting aside enough mortgage assets to guarantee that all promised benefits could be fully paid if the bank becomes insolvent."

Full story here:http://groups.google.com/group/misc.activism.progressive/browse_thread/thread/ca7e37439cddc533


Nifty:D

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Quotes:

"January 15, 2007 (LPAC)--Citigroup reported the largest loss ever admitted by a U.S. bank today, a $10 billion loss for the fourth quarter, but that loss, as big as it is, is actually a cover story designed to hide far more serious damage. In the fourth quarter, the bank took $18 billion in losses on mortgage-related securities and added $4 billion to its reserves for losses on loans and consumer credit, losses which reflect the overall collapse of the global financial system. To help plug the hole in its balance sheet from these losses, the bank revealed $12.5 billion in new capital from the investment arm of the Government of Singapore, the Kuwaiti Investment Authority and others, on top of the $7.5 billion it obtained from the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority last November; in all, the bank has raised about $26 billion since the crisis began."

Full report here:http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/01/15/bankruptcy-system-citigroup-and-merrill-lynch-report.html

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Quote:
"Tomorrow will be 8 days since CHRISTOPHER STORY has updated. Does anyone out there know whether he is dead (god forbid), alive or hushed up?

There were three more trades stacked up behind the one reported this morning.
All have been blocked. If a bank and a trader are willing, and in this case have Wld. Ct. approval, they can and have in the past used our accounts/funds as "collateral" for a trade.
The money does not actually move except in rare instances such as the 3T$ recently discussed.
These attempts WERE AUTHORIZED BY THE WORLD COURT. We wonder if the Judge who signed the papers would like to see his name in lights? Whadaya say your dishonor??
The issue here is that Basel II and new Global Banking was to put a stop to these shenanigans. If Basel is operable why would they even try?
This takes us back to the reports that the deposit of the big checks and the announcements effect the change and until then they just keep on keeping on.

Did we mention that the funds moved to DUBAI by LAURA (previously) were frozen and she failed to access last week?

GW on T.V. tomorrow-Economic Stimulus Package-$1600. tax refund to every "tax filer".

After 300 point fall in Dow today foreign equity markets falling precipitously over night.

It is all so very serious. "

Full report here:http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1200634925


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This is a site for a summary of the banking problem. It comes from here:
http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2007/11/criminal-collapse-of-citibank-and.html
Which has been muted as a Russian source by Chris Story:cool:
However info is info or disinfo and its up to you to sift it to gain the truth, half truth or total bullshit..lol:D
Anyway I am just quoting the last few paragraphs to bring this up to date:rolleyes:
Quotes:
"Back in the USA, by the end of the second week of January 2008, China was in control of all major American banking operations, and was quietly taking firesale stakes in strategic places such as Citibank. China now owned America. This was the de facto achievement of nineteen years of Bush-Clinton-Bush stewardship of The American Dream. They had sold America abroad and were left holding nothing but handfuls of fiat paper, hundreds of thousands of foreclosure notices and millions of war dead.

On Sunday 13th January 2008, Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, visited the Middle East for his third trip to the area in three weeks. He was in the region at the same time as George Bush Jnr. Sarkozy's points of call on this occasion were Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Ostensibly, his visit was to sign papers in connection with a French contract to build nuclear reactors in UAE, and to continue bilateral talks on terrorism, the Iraq war, and the establishment of a 500-man French naval base in Abu Dhabi. The hidden agenda was to solicit funds to prop up failing French banks, said to include BNP Paribas and Banque Saudi Fransi. He was also in the region in a last attempt to access some of his own private money which had become entangled in machinations surrounding the Citibank/Wanta crisis. In early January 2008, Nicolas Sarkozy had attempted to administer the economic receipt of a sum totalling $44 trillion under cover of the disinformation fog surrounding the Henry Paulson assassination. The money was wired from Citibank (New York) to BNP Paribas (Paris) and was partially derived from stealth trades based on the Wanta Plan Funds. This illegal transfer of funds was detected and blocked. Prior to this attempted transaction, eight BNP Paribas senior management people had been arrested and charged with banking irregularities connected with the Citibank scandal.

Events began to move swiftly in the USA on Wednesday 16th January 2007. More than one hundred and fifty (150) further bankers were arrested. Another one thousand five hundred (1500) arrests of bankers were expected to follow very soon. Many of those taken away were from Citibank and Bank of America. The USA Banking Commission orchestrated the arrests. Dubai was providing funds to the CIA and the USA Navy for expenses associated with the banker arrest programme. Embezzlement at Bank of America had led to multiple external audits involving 2400 (two thousand four hundred) pink slips. Strong advice was being given by financial advisors to customers to pull all money out of Bank of America immediately; Bank of America stock should be sold, and pensions funds should be liquidated. Citibank cancelled all outstanding lines of credit to its customers. The World Court said that China now owned 61% of Citibank. The International Monetary Fund threatened an immediate worldwide embargo against China if the NESARA-related banking packages were not sent out immediately. The World Court ordered China to pay a 150% penalty on a $3 trillion sum it had illegally sequestered. Japan was actively competing with China and Dubai in making behind-the-scenes offers to buy failing USA banks, in particular Bank of America. Precious metals prices were about to be frozen. The USA stockmarket was expected to be closed at any moment, to avoid a Northern Rock-style run on banks and bank stocks. There was a suggestion that Brussels (Europe) was providing operating expenses for the USA Treasury. Public announcements about all this were about to be made soon, including disclosures of treason by USA Executive Branch officials in connection with the 911 planned demolition and mass murder at the World Trade Centre (New York) in September 2001.

The USA Federal Reserve domestic wire transfer system was not working on the afternoon of Wednesday 16th January 2008, or during the morning and early afternoon of Thursday 17th January 2008, and the telephone at the Wire Department of the Federal Reserve was not being answered. The Federal Reserve wire transfer system was restored to normal functionality at 3.00pm on the 17th January.

On or around Friday 18th January 2007, a prominent Roman Catholic called John Glover Roberts, the seventeenth Chief Justice of the USA, said that the NESARA global prosperity packages would "never be delivered". Roberts was holding the packages illegally in the vaults of the USA Supreme Court in Washington DC. His stance was thought to be supported by the Vatican in Rome and by the Crown Temple in London. Ranged against him were Rothschild Europe, Brussels Europe, Putin Russia, most of the major Chinese power factions, India, and more than one hundred other national governments.

On Friday 18th January 2008, information emerged from banking insiders that, decades ago, the USA government had covertly supplied the Chinese government with a set of USA Treasury Currency Plates. With these, the Chinese were given the right to print the USA currency themselves (dollar bills) in amounts dependent upon (and as a percentage of) currency increases printed by the USA Treasury. In China, in January 2008, there were retention centre warehouses filled full with high-denomination dollar bills, shrink-wrapped on pallets, waiting for distribution.

Various USA prisons and military holding facilities were being emptied of deportable Mexican residents and others. It was said that this was being done to make room for the expected new intake of long-term financial corruption prisoners who would soon be filling up American jails as a consequence of the Citibank Wanta Plan funds theft. The criminal overclass of USA government and banking was expected to change address.


Part of a very long summary. And what has just happened to Northern Rock then?? We can invest shit loads of more of our money to prop it up and cover these thefts..
FFS Is Gordon Brown a scumbag or what?:mad:

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK.....The clock is about to stop.

Nifty:D