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phaedra
09-11-2007, 02:09 AM
With all the doom and gloom stories about the state of the world, I found this story to be very refreshing - Enjoy.

I had cancer (Hodgkin's Lymphoma), and on this morning, I could not move. My husband rushed me to hospital, where, after doing scans, they diagnosed me with grade 4B lymphoma (the highest grade). The senior oncologist looked at my report and told my husband that it was too late, and that my organs were now shutting down. I only had 36 hours to live. However, the oncologist said he would do whatever he could but prepared my husband that I would most likely not make it, as my organs were no longer functioning. They started me on a chemotherapy drip as well as oxygen, and then they started to take tests, particularly on my organ functions, so that they could determine what drugs to use.

I was drifting in and out of consciousness during this time, and I could feel my spirit actually leaving my body. I saw and heard the conversations between my husband and the doctors taking place outside my room, about 40 feet away down a hallway. I was later able to verify this conversation to my shocked husband. Then I actually "crossed over" to another dimension, where I was engulfed in a total feeling of love. I also experienced extreme clarity of why I had the cancer, why I had come into this life in the first place, what role everyone in my family played in my life in the grand scheme of things, and generally how life works. The clarity and understanding I obtained in this state is almost indescribable. Words seem to limit the experience – I was at a place where I understood how much more there is than what we are able to conceive in our 3-dimensional world. I realized what a gift life was, and that I was surrounded by loving spiritual beings, who were always around me even when I did not know it.

The amount of love I felt was overwhelming, and from this perspective, I knew how powerful I am, and saw the amazing possibilities we as humans are capable of achieving during a physical life. I found out that my purpose now would be to live “heaven on earth” using this new understanding, and also to share this knowledge with other people. However I had the choice of whether to come back into life, or go towards death. I was made to understand that it was not my time, but I always had the choice, and if I chose death, I would not be experiencing a lot of the gifts that the rest of my life still held in store. One of the things I wanted to know was that if I chose life, would I have to come back to this sick body, because my body was very, very sick and the organs had stopped functioning. I was then made to understand that if I chose life, my body would heal very quickly. I would see a difference in not months or weeks, but days!

I was shown how illnesses start on an energetic level before they become physical. If I chose to go into life, the cancer would be gone from my energy, and my physical body would catch up very quickly. I then understood that when people have medical treatments for illnesses, it rids the illness only from their body but not from their energy so the illness returns. I realized if I went back, it would be with a very healthy energy. Then the physical body would catch up to the energetic conditions very quickly and permanently. I was given the understanding that this applies to anything, not only illnesses – physical conditions, psychological conditions, etc. I was "shown" that everything going on in our lives was dependant on this energy around us, created by us. Nothing was solid - we created our surroundings, our conditions, etc. depending where this "energy" was at. The clarity I received around how we get what we do was phenomenal! It’s all about where we are energetically. I was made to feel that I was going to see "proof" of this first hand if I returned back to my body.

I know I was drifting in and out between the two worlds, but every time I drifted into the "other side", I was shown more and more scenes. There was one which showed how my life had touched all the people in it - it was sort of like a tapestry and showed how I affected everyone's lives around me. There was another which showed my brother on a plane, having heard the news I was dying, coming to see me (this was verified to me as when I started to come round, my brother was there, having just got off a plane). I then saw a glimpse of my brother and me and somehow seemed to understand it was a previous life, where I was much older than him and was like a mother to him (in this life, he is older than me). I saw in that life I was very protective towards him. I suddenly became aware he was on the plane to come and see me, and felt "I can't do this to him - can't let him come and see me dead". Then I also saw how my husband's purpose was linked to mine, and how we had decided to come and experience this life together. If I went, he would probably follow soon after.

I was made to understand that, as tests had been taken for my organ functions (and the results were not out yet), that if I chose life, the results would show that my organs were functioning normally. If I chose death, the results would show organ failure as the cause of death, due to cancer. I was able to change the outcome of the tests by my choice!

I made my choice, and as I started to wake up (in a very confused state, as I could not at that time tell which side of the veil I was on), the doctors came rushing into the room with big smiles on their faces saying to my family “Good news – we got the results and her organs are functioning – we can’t believe it!! Her body really did seem like it had shut down!”

After that, I began to recover rapidly. The doctors had been waiting for me to become stable before doing a lymph node biopsy to track the type of cancer cells, and they could not even find a lymph node big enough to suggest cancer (upon entering the hospital my body was filled with swollen lymph nodes). They did a bone marrow biopsy, again to find the cancer activity so they could adjust the chemotherapy according to the disease, and there wasn’t any in the bone marrow. The doctors were very confused, but put it down to me suddenly responding to the chemo. Because they themselves were unable to understand what was going on, they made me undergo test after test, all of which I passed with flying colors, and clearing every test empowered me even more! I had a full body scan, and because they could not find anything, they made the radiologist repeat it again!!!!

Because of my experience, I am now sharing with everyone I know that miracles are possible in your life every day. After what I have seen, I realize that absolutely anything is possible, and that we did not come here to suffer. Life is supposed to be great, and we are very, very loved. The way I look at life has changed dramatically, and I am so glad to have been given a second chance to experience “heaven on earth”.

Questions to Anita regarding her near experience - can be found at the below link.

http://www.nderf.org/anita_m's_nde.htm

spiritualone
09-11-2007, 03:05 AM
YES You dont need to have an NDE to experience this level of Consciousness.


Time seems to have a completely different meaning on that side. What I felt was that all possibilities exist simultaneously - it just depends which one you choose. Sort of like being in an elevator, where all the floors of a building exist, but you can choose which floor to get off on. So if all the future possibilities exist for me to choose from, then I assume all the past scenarios exist too. So depending which future possibility I choose, that will also determine which past automatically comes with it (I chose life, so it affected the past, choosing the appropriate test result for the organ function).

I read an article some time ago on this. Sort of like time reaching back from a future possibility back into the past. :cool:



The book below covers similar events based on case studies:
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=DlRFx_ThPgYC&dq=destiny+of+souls&pg=PP1&ots=tniiz0Reqa&sig=V4fBL7h6Ss7Kge730jdMgo8Rvec&prev=http://www.google.com.au/search%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Ddestiny%2Bof%2Bsouls%26meta %3D&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail

seanx
09-11-2007, 05:32 PM
With all the doom and gloom stories about the state of the world, I found this story to be very refreshing - Enjoy.

I had cancer (Hodgkin's Lymphoma), and on this morning, I could not move. My husband rushed me to hospital, where, after doing scans, they diagnosed me with grade 4B lymphoma (the highest grade). The senior oncologist looked at my report and told my husband that it was too late, and that my organs were now shutting down. I only had 36 hours to live. However, the oncologist said he would do whatever he could but prepared my husband that I would most likely not make it, as my organs were no longer functioning. They started me on a chemotherapy drip as well as oxygen, and then they started to take tests, particularly on my organ functions, so that they could determine what drugs to use.

I was drifting in and out of consciousness during this time, and I could feel my spirit actually leaving my body. I saw and heard the conversations between my husband and the doctors taking place outside my room, about 40 feet away down a hallway. I was later able to verify this conversation to my shocked husband. Then I actually "crossed over" to another dimension, where I was engulfed in a total feeling of love. I also experienced extreme clarity of why I had the cancer, why I had come into this life in the first place, what role everyone in my family played in my life in the grand scheme of things, and generally how life works. The clarity and understanding I obtained in this state is almost indescribable. Words seem to limit the experience – I was at a place where I understood how much more there is than what we are able to conceive in our 3-dimensional world. I realized what a gift life was, and that I was surrounded by loving spiritual beings, who were always around me even when I did not know it.

The amount of love I felt was overwhelming, and from this perspective, I knew how powerful I am, and saw the amazing possibilities we as humans are capable of achieving during a physical life. I found out that my purpose now would be to live “heaven on earth” using this new understanding, and also to share this knowledge with other people. However I had the choice of whether to come back into life, or go towards death. I was made to understand that it was not my time, but I always had the choice, and if I chose death, I would not be experiencing a lot of the gifts that the rest of my life still held in store. One of the things I wanted to know was that if I chose life, would I have to come back to this sick body, because my body was very, very sick and the organs had stopped functioning. I was then made to understand that if I chose life, my body would heal very quickly. I would see a difference in not months or weeks, but days!

I was shown how illnesses start on an energetic level before they become physical. If I chose to go into life, the cancer would be gone from my energy, and my physical body would catch up very quickly. I then understood that when people have medical treatments for illnesses, it rids the illness only from their body but not from their energy so the illness returns. I realized if I went back, it would be with a very healthy energy. Then the physical body would catch up to the energetic conditions very quickly and permanently. I was given the understanding that this applies to anything, not only illnesses – physical conditions, psychological conditions, etc. I was "shown" that everything going on in our lives was dependant on this energy around us, created by us. Nothing was solid - we created our surroundings, our conditions, etc. depending where this "energy" was at. The clarity I received around how we get what we do was phenomenal! It’s all about where we are energetically. I was made to feel that I was going to see "proof" of this first hand if I returned back to my body.

I know I was drifting in and out between the two worlds, but every time I drifted into the "other side", I was shown more and more scenes. There was one which showed how my life had touched all the people in it - it was sort of like a tapestry and showed how I affected everyone's lives around me. There was another which showed my brother on a plane, having heard the news I was dying, coming to see me (this was verified to me as when I started to come round, my brother was there, having just got off a plane). I then saw a glimpse of my brother and me and somehow seemed to understand it was a previous life, where I was much older than him and was like a mother to him (in this life, he is older than me). I saw in that life I was very protective towards him. I suddenly became aware he was on the plane to come and see me, and felt "I can't do this to him - can't let him come and see me dead". Then I also saw how my husband's purpose was linked to mine, and how we had decided to come and experience this life together. If I went, he would probably follow soon after.

I was made to understand that, as tests had been taken for my organ functions (and the results were not out yet), that if I chose life, the results would show that my organs were functioning normally. If I chose death, the results would show organ failure as the cause of death, due to cancer. I was able to change the outcome of the tests by my choice!

I made my choice, and as I started to wake up (in a very confused state, as I could not at that time tell which side of the veil I was on), the doctors came rushing into the room with big smiles on their faces saying to my family “Good news – we got the results and her organs are functioning – we can’t believe it!! Her body really did seem like it had shut down!”

After that, I began to recover rapidly. The doctors had been waiting for me to become stable before doing a lymph node biopsy to track the type of cancer cells, and they could not even find a lymph node big enough to suggest cancer (upon entering the hospital my body was filled with swollen lymph nodes). They did a bone marrow biopsy, again to find the cancer activity so they could adjust the chemotherapy according to the disease, and there wasn’t any in the bone marrow. The doctors were very confused, but put it down to me suddenly responding to the chemo. Because they themselves were unable to understand what was going on, they made me undergo test after test, all of which I passed with flying colors, and clearing every test empowered me even more! I had a full body scan, and because they could not find anything, they made the radiologist repeat it again!!!!

Because of my experience, I am now sharing with everyone I know that miracles are possible in your life every day. After what I have seen, I realize that absolutely anything is possible, and that we did not come here to suffer. Life is supposed to be great, and we are very, very loved. The way I look at life has changed dramatically, and I am so glad to have been given a second chance to experience “heaven on earth”.

Questions to Anita regarding her near experience - can be found at the below link.

http://www.nderf.org/anita_m's_nde.htm

That's a fascinating post, phaedra.

Do you know anything more about this woman or her story?

seanx
10-11-2007, 02:28 AM
This is what I find so amazing and terribly disapointing about this
forum.

Here is a great post.

In it, a story from an ordinary woman who has undergone a NED,
we find a real-life CONFIRMATION of the all the incredible ideas that
dave icle explored in his last two books.

Extraordinary ideas that can transform our reality.

The same ideas that lottie posted in another great post in the
Matrix/ create your reality section.

Yet, what is disapponting is the lack of any interest in them.
All posts like this seem to get virtually no response.

Yet, if I posted some nonsense about the Jews - or about Reptiles -
there would ne hundreds of posts.

Is this true ......or is it that people who REALLY BELIEVE IN THESE
IDEAS don't post ....and leave the forum to the mercy of the
materialists who always post here.

spiritualone
10-11-2007, 06:18 AM
I was thinking this earlier today. I believe in these ideas and dont post much if that is any constellation. There are many other great experiences from others on that site. These are the concepts and ideas that really resonate with me. It is about as close to the truth as you are going to get sans having an NDE yourself.

spiritualone
10-11-2007, 06:56 AM
Be patient with all that is unresolved in your heart. And try to love the questions themselves. Do not seek for the answers that cannot be given. For you wouldn't be able to live with them. And the point is to live everything, live the questions now, and perhaps without knowing it, you will live along some day into the answers.


http://www.ianlawton.com/nde3.htm


http://www.ianlawton.com/rsprop.htm


http://www.ianlawton.com/rsindex.htm

freedomnonfighter
10-11-2007, 07:26 AM
Fabulous story. I hope more and more people start looking into NDE's. :cool:

My father has that same type of cancer - would be awesome if he experienced something similar... would turn his life around :)

gorgeousbutterfly
10-11-2007, 07:53 AM
Fabulous story. I hope more and more people start looking into NDE's. :cool:

My father has that same type of cancer - would be awesome if he experienced something similar... would turn his life around :)

i'm sorry to hear that. *hugs* my mom had cancer :( not this kind but still.

strider
10-11-2007, 08:08 AM
Nice story to wake up to.. And like seanx says, there just isn't enough of this around on here, or it just gets ignored and lost really easily..

kblood
10-11-2007, 10:42 AM
This is what I find so amazing and terribly disapointing about this
forum.

Here is a great post.

In it, a story from an ordinary woman who has undergone a NED,
we find a real-life CONFIRMATION of the all the incredible ideas that
dave icle explored in his last two books.

Extraordinary ideas that can transform our reality.

The same ideas that lottie posted in another great post in the
Matrix/ create your reality section.

Yet, what is disapponting is the lack of any interest in them.
All posts like this seem to get virtually no response.

Yet, if I posted some nonsense about the Jews - or about Reptiles -
there would ne hundreds of posts.

Is this true ......or is it that people who REALLY BELIEVE IN THESE
IDEAS don't post ....and leave the forum to the mercy of the
materialists who always post here.

Hate or fear seems to make people more eager to post their oppinion about something. These kinds of posts, I believe many cannot relate to, unfortunately.

Seems what she experienced is the state of mind that I now call oneness, after reading about oneness on this forum. In this state of mind everything seems to be made of love, everything seems to be connected, everything seems possible and everything has higher meanings. Every answers is open to you, if you got the questions, while in this state of mind. I have had NEDs myself, so maybe that is why I have had this feeling of oneness as well. I do believe that it is not needed to have an NED to enter that state of mind though. Drugs arent needed either.

peachped
10-11-2007, 10:51 AM
This is what I find so amazing and terribly disapointing about this
forum.

Here is a great post.

In it, a story from an ordinary woman who has undergone a NED,
we find a real-life CONFIRMATION of the all the incredible ideas that
dave icle explored in his last two books.

Extraordinary ideas that can transform our reality.

The same ideas that lottie posted in another great post in the
Matrix/ create your reality section.

Yet, what is disapponting is the lack of any interest in them.
All posts like this seem to get virtually no response.

Yet, if I posted some nonsense about the Jews - or about Reptiles -
there would ne hundreds of posts.

Is this true ......or is it that people who REALLY BELIEVE IN THESE
IDEAS don't post ....and leave the forum to the mercy of the
materialists who always post here.

Stop whinging! Ffs!

ninja17
10-11-2007, 11:09 AM
Time seems to have a completely different meaning on that side. What I felt was that all possibilities exist simultaneously - it just depends which one you choose. Sort of like being in an elevator, where all the floors of a building exist, but you can choose which floor to get off on. So if all the future possibilities exist for me to choose from, then I assume all the past scenarios exist too. So depending which future possibility I choose, that will also determine which past automatically comes with it (I chose life, so it affected the past, choosing the appropriate test result for the organ function).

This got to be hell.Which one shall i choose?i dont know:D

..but will you ever escape the matrix?

kblood
10-11-2007, 02:58 PM
This got to be hell.Which one shall i choose?i dont know:D

..but will you ever escape the matrix?

I do not think it is about escaping it, but learning how to cope with it. Learning how to understand it better. So many layers of it, always new things to learn.

ninja17
10-11-2007, 04:43 PM
So many layers of it, always new things to learn.

Always when i hear about reincarnation i have this image in my head from ickes "infinite love is the only truth..." with the ladders and the people climbing and falling down over and over again...

Also he put it this way i think(correct me if im wrong)..people will get the "afterlife" as they imagine it(illusion),but it is also part of the matrix,with its laws..
He said also we are already HOME..Dont know about that yet.

pce