The Jersey Girls on 9/11 Whistleblowers

[john white]

Props to Stelios for the original post



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rukxI_GLc3w

9/11 family member and "Jersey Girl" Patty Casazza has just revealed that whistleblowers told her that -- before 9/11 -- the government knew the exact day, the type of attack, and the targets.

Why is this important? Because, previously, some of the best-known whistleblowers have been willing to give only vague information about the government's foreknowledge. For example, they said only that the government knew of the general timeframe for the attacks, or that the government had a list of potential targets, on which the World Trade Center was one of many potential targets (of course, other whistleblowers have been more specific).

Casazza further stated that these whistleblowers saw how Sibel Edmonds was being harrassed and gagged, and were fearful that the same thing would happen to them. So they approached the Jersey Girls to ask them to demand the 9/11 Commission subpoena the whistleblowers. The Jersey Girls tried to bring the whistleblowers before the 9/11 Commission, and the Commissioners agreed, but then never let the whistleblowers testify, let alone subpoena them.

Why is this important? Because defenders of the official government story have argued that 9/11 couldn't have been an inside job or else whistleblowers would have come forward. Ms. Cassaza confirms what many have said: there are a lot of 9/11 whistleblowers who are afraid to come forward -- especially without a supboena -- for fear of being attacked and harassed.

A video of Ms. Cassaza's statement has just been released

[john white]

This is enormously powerful

Please take the time to view the video

And for those still needing to know, you should watch "9/11 Press for Truth"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q=press+for+truth

[john white]

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[christophera]

Does anyone know how to contact the Jersey girls? I've tried to contact various victims for information or inquiry about their efforts but find they are all quite isolated.

[christophera]

Does anyone know how to contact the Jersey girls? I've tried to contact various victims for information or inquiry about their efforts but find they are all quite isolated.

More and more it seems that organizations pop up stating they are for 9-11 truth but then there is no way to contact them.

[john white]

More and more it seems that organizations pop up stating they are for 9-11 truth but then there is no way to contact them.

Well not everybody makes private email or phone contact numbers publicly available

There's all sorts of blogs and facebook pages etc, for example:

http://www.myspace.com/911pressfortruth

What did you want to ask about?

[christophera]

Well not everybody makes private email or phone contact numbers publicly available

There's all sorts of blogs and facebook pages etc, for example:

http://www.myspace.com/911pressfortruth

What did you want to ask about?

As always, the matter of the structural misinformation from FEMA. The issue of the wrong design and material invalidates the NIST analysis. By every right, we are due another, limited investigation to get the correct structural data and then a new structural analysis.

[john white]

As always, the matter of the structural misinformation from FEMA. The issue of the wrong design and material invalidates the NIST analysis. By every right, we are due another, limited investigation to get the correct structural data and then a new structural analysis.

Well OK, thought it must be

Of course, they have a policy of not getting into what happened to the towers themselves

[christophera]

Well OK, thought it must be

Of course, they have a policy of not getting into what happened to the towers themselves

I need to know who is responsible for that policy. We all need to know, right away.

I've never been able to get a response from any. They, and us are victims of the public "containment" aspect on the first level.

ON EDIT:
Okay, they don't get into it. They are just informed that NIST could easily have been provided misinformation which invalidates the NIST product. They let NIST or whoever be involved with "getting into what happened to the towers themselves", the vcitims families only involve themselves with publicizing that the analysis of collapse was very likely, under circumstance (guliani, silverstein, FEMA coincidence & inadequate product, Bazant et al) provided false information for making determinations.

[john white]

I need to know who is responsible for that policy. We all need to know, right away.

I've never been able to get a response from any. They, and us are victims of the public "containment" aspect on the first level.

Well the Jersey Girls are themselves: thats a matter of public record.

You can call "containment" if you like: I call freedom of expression and choice: in this case, the Jersey Girls choosing to concentrate on what is known and proven with consensus, not speculated and suspected

Being as the Jersey Girls target is exposing the cover-up at the 9/11 commission that would never have happened without their campaigning pressure to get one, I'd call that pragmatic and a fair call

[christophera]

Well the Jersey Girls are themselves: thats a matter of public record.

You can call "containment" if you like: I call freedom of expression and choice: in this case, the Jersey Girls choosing to concentrate on what is known and proven with consensus, not speculated and suspected

Being as the Jersey Girls target is exposing the cover-up at the 9/11 commission that would never have happened without their campaigning pressure to get one, I'd call that pragmatic and a fair call

Concensus does not prove anything except what people believe. Concentrating on things that are not proven with evidence and reason is not logical.

Logically, because guiliani took the WTC documents and NIST never had the plans and the supposed steel core columns have never been seen in 9-11 images, there is good reason to consider there has been deception regarding structural design. The fact that steel cannot be cut with high explosives to create what was seen without changing it radically appears to be overlooked by the concensus.

How will they feel if the truth movement fails to reasonably examine evidence providing viable explanation? How will Americans feel if they allow concensus to control the concentrations of quasi authority and then loose their freedoms, rights and democracy?

[christophera]

Concensus does not prove anything except what people believe. Concentrating on things that are not proven with evidence and reason is not logical.

Logically, because guiliani took the WTC documents and NIST never had the plans and the supposed steel core columns have never been seen in 9-11 images, there is good reason to consider there has been deception regarding structural design. The fact that steel cannot be cut with high explosives to create what was seen without changing it radically appears to be overlooked by the concensus.

How will they feel if the truth movement fails to reasonably examine evidence providing viable explanation? How will Americans feel if they allow concensus to control the concentrations of quasi authority and then loose their freedoms, rights and democracy?

This issue of evidence and reason defines the differences between behaviors.

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[christophera]

This issue of evidence and reason defines the differences between behaviors.

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Or whether or not people are actually doing what they say they are doing, ...... everywhere except 9-11 truth seeking, it's done by consensus.

[christophera]

Or whether or not people are actually doing what they say they are doing, ...... everywhere except 9-11 truth seeking, it's done by consensus.

Evidence is not created by consensus. Nor is it well rejected by consensus. Specific detail and reason with appropriate comparison to other evidence is the only way to proceed.

[christophera]

Evidence is not created by consensus. Nor is it well rejected by consensus. Specific detail and reason with appropriate comparison to other evidence is the only way to proceed.

With the disinformation campaign utilizing mainstream 9-11 .orgs, or even creating and staffing them, it is not terribly surprising that the Jersy Widows choose to isolate themselves. They wait for an obvious instance of truth dominance causing a political movement that they can assist.

Unfortunately the psyops of the disinformation campaign uses people who are problaly mind controlled to promote concepts which have basically no evidence which alienate new truth seekers and cause them to distance themselves from the movement.

[christophera]

Does anyone know of any way at all to get dialogue with family members of victims going?

[christophera]

Apparently no one here even cares about the capacity of victims families to get infomation out. Perhaps many truthers here realize that family members believe there were planes and truthers here are not interested in those that believe in planes.

[christophera]

So what is the story? Are people here actually afraid to publically work together towards contacting powerful groups that might create meaningful and widely shared discussion that media might feel as though they should cover?

C'mon, the NPT trance is broken.