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graflok
27-02-2007, 05:27 PM
Drastic deaths of honey bees reported in US and some other countries. Honey bees have a direct link to food crop production.
"... there have never been so many empty, deserted honey bee hives as there are now. And no one knows why."
See:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=1214&category=Environment
graflok
lookfar
27-02-2007, 10:30 PM
Hi Graflok
Thanks for the info.
This is tragic to read & is going to have drastic effects to the foodchain.
It does make me wonder if the cause has something to do with Monsanto, or possibly chemtrails??? :mad: Whatever it is, it's not good.
i am all i am
28-02-2007, 10:34 AM
The official line could be:
"We are now required to use GM seeds to maintain food production as pollination of food crops has been seriously affected because ...we killed... I mean... of the mysterious deaths of honey bees."
With LOVE.
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pollock
28-02-2007, 10:52 AM
Don't they also rely on magnetism for orientation, could it be the increase in interfering signals from all our wireless crap or the dwindeling earthly magnetism or both? And is it also happening to natural hives or is it just our artificial beekeeping witch is affected? (higher awareness amongst bees? the awekening buzz?:D :D )
Although whatever the reason, it would be a sad summer without the buzzing of honeybees!
Hi Graflok
Thanks for the info.
This is tragic to read & is going to have drastic effects to the foodchain.
It does make me wonder if the cause has something to do with Monsanto, or possibly chemtrails??? :mad: Whatever it is, it's not good.
My first thought was Monsanto.
From Greenpeace:
http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/international/press/reports/global-status-of-genetically-e.pdf
.....In 2006 the number of regions that have declared themselves GE free zones went up to 172 in the European Union. Additionally 4500 local authorities in the EU have declared that they want to avoid using GE products. One or more GE crop varieties are banned in seven European countries.....
Maybe that is why their honey bees are not dying.
lookfar
28-02-2007, 12:50 PM
My first thought was Monsanto.
From Greenpeace:
http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/international/press/reports/global-status-of-genetically-e.pdf
.....In 2006 the number of regions that have declared themselves GE free zones went up to 172 in the European Union. Additionally 4500 local authorities in the EU have declared that they want to avoid using GE products. One or more GE crop varieties are banned in seven European countries.....
Maybe that is why their honey bees are not dying.
Thanks for the link.
Yeah that maybe the case.
Although I recall watching a GMO documentary recently (can't find it on Google now). But it was about farmers in the US who were being screwed over by Monsanto. If they were found to have even one stray plant with a Monsanto strain on their farm (which is obviously impossible to control), then they were being sued & forced to handover all jurisdiction to them, because they own the patent & therefore the future crops! :mad:
It's all part of the 'agenda', but totally wrong!
graflok
28-02-2007, 02:01 PM
Here are a few links about Monsanto:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfm
and
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ENG20060827&articleId=3082
They have this new seed technology called "Terminator" which I presume refers to what it will do to us.
And, here is a Monsanto GM (genetic modification?) logo:
http://www.captainhookawards.org/var/captainhook/storage/images/nominations/monsanto/995-1-eng-CA/monsanto.gif
What the hell is that? A horned snake? It doesn't look like any plant I've ever seen.
graflok
Although I recall watching a GMO documentary recently (can't find it on Google now). But it was about farmers in the US who were being screwed over by Monsanto. If they were found to have even one stray plant with a Monsanto strain on their farm (which is obviously impossible to control), then they were being sued & forced to handover all jurisdiction to them, because they own the patent & therefore the future crops! :mad:
It's all part of the 'agenda', but totally wrong!
Yes I read about that. Apparently the seeds were being blown in on the wind (as they do) and thus it gave Monsanto the right to all crops.
melbo
28-02-2007, 05:08 PM
The two European countries with the largest honey bee populations are France and Italy. It might be significant that those two countries banned certain pesticides in recent years because beekeepers there became convinced that systemic pesticides were killing off honey bees. And so far, neither France nor Italy has yet reported the collapse of honey bee hives.
looks like its the pesticides then. good old monsanto.
seamus
28-02-2007, 06:15 PM
You really must see the film, "The Future of Food"
s
You will grow in your hatred of Monsanto by leaps and bounds.
And then hopefully realize that hatred does no good, and you will be stirred to positive action.
Drastic deaths of honey bees reported in US and some other countries. Honey bees have a direct link to food crop production.
"... there have never been so many empty, deserted honey bee hives as there are now. And no one knows why."
See:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=1214&category=Environment
graflok
now, this is really, really scary.
Worse than something from X files. and we know that X files are predictive programming.
after i glanced your post my first thought was CHEMTRAILS.
but, after i read the article, especially the (following) paragraph -- I am positive that this is all due to chemtrails, because chemtrails are main cause of FUNGUS:
In this case, the thing that is really amazing is that (normally) other bees will come in and rob out the honey that’s left and there are a few predators. Here in the south, we have a hive beetle that moves in and we have a wax moth that moves in and starts eating up comb and stuff. The interesting thing about this whole thing is that none of these (normal) things happen. The bees do not bother these (deserted) combs. They (honey combs) literally sit there for weeks and they (other bees and insects) don’t come to take the honey out of the boxes; the beetles don’t bother them; the wax moths don’t bother them. So, it’s just like there is something in there that’s repelling everything else.
AS IF THE HONEY ITSELF THAT WAS MADE BY ALL OF THE BEES THAT HAVE DISAPPEARED IS GIVING OFF SOMETHING THAT OTHER NORMAL PREDATORS AND BEES ARE STAYING AWAY FROM?
now, that last sentence is the worse -- have the bees turned into honey?
because, another thought that comes to mind is NANOTECHNOLOGY, and with nanotech maybe bees disintegrate?
who knows, maybe nanotech is in the chemtrails?
I would be surprised if it wasn't.
BTW, i have contemplated the idea that chemtrails will be used to destroy food crops, so that Monsanto maniacs
and illuminati that own Monsanto can make use of those 11000 food/crop/seed patents that they own.
I think that they plan to control all food, therefore controlling the countries and the world.
I have a mental picture of them blackmailing the billions of
starving people into acceptance of their insane system by
controlling food and water. After all, they are after "water rights" as well, and, they already have taken good portions of national parks from the people, so when SHTF you won't be able to go to your national park where you would have water and use animals as food source.
chances are, you'll be shot if you cross the national park line.
We definitely live in AGE OF INSANITY!
and, isn't it interesting that if all bees are gone the life on earth will cease to exist is some 4 years? Not too far off from 2012, huh?
I sure hope that for sake of humanity people wake up NOW.
graflok
28-02-2007, 11:08 PM
BBC News now has a story on the vanishing bees.
"Box after box after box are just empty. There's nobody home."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6400179.stm
I would think such a situation is going to have a major effect on food supply very, very soon.
graflok
lookfar
28-02-2007, 11:11 PM
You really must see the film, "The Future of Food"
s
You will grow in your hatred of Monsanto by leaps and bounds.
And then hopefully realize that hatred does no good, and you will be stirred to positive action.
Thanks Seamus, that was the film I meant & couldn't recall the name:)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4310450826413949175&q=Future+of+food+duration%3Along
Good points there King. I did also think of the chemtrails because of the fungus connection & it wouldn't surprise me if they're using nanotechnology this way too.
This is certainly the way for their complete control in no time at all:mad:
It's scary stuff indeed!!!
markhowie
28-02-2007, 11:37 PM
Aloha
last year after a long fight we managed to get a suspension of Gaucho that was responsible for the killing of hundreds of thousands of hives but the effect will only be felt this year as they were allowed to finish ther stock....
here is an article in english
France suspends use of Gaucho insecticide for corn
French Agriculture Minister Herve Gaymard announced it planned to stop use of the Gaucho pesticide to treat corn seeds until it is reviewed by the European Commission in 2006.
In January last year, Gaymard had already extended for three years suspension of the use of Gaucho, a chemical produced by the German chemicals and pharmaceuticals giant Bayer, for treatment of sunflower seeds.
Gaucho, like another pesticide Regent TS produced by German chemicals giant BASF, has been accused by French bee-keepers of causing a high mortality rate among bees. Sales of Regent TS was suspended in France last February.
An agriculture ministry report deemed that the government's decision to give farmers till June to use up their remaining stocks of pesticide was much less costly that destroying the crop seeds already sprayed.
But the national association of bee-keepers says massive damage is being done to bee populations, which are crucial to plant pollination.
Subisidiaries of Bayer and BASF, which sold Regent TS, are under criminal investigation in France for selling an agricultural product that is toxic to humans or animals.
@+ mark
You really must see the film, "The Future of Food"
s
You will grow in your hatred of Monsanto by leaps and bounds.
And then hopefully realize that hatred does no good, and you will be stirred to positive action.
Are we all familiar with CODEX ? This is scary shit and hardly anyone is aware of it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634
lookfar
15-03-2007, 11:43 AM
Just saw this in the news. No progress as to the cause yet (which is no surprise), but interesting to see Hillary is taking an interest (or not!) Wouldn't be surprised if we see some PRS "Solutions" appearing soon regarding GM etc...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6438373.stm
graflok
15-03-2007, 02:44 PM
Thanks for posting this update, lookfar.
At the same time that the bees are vanishing, there is another BBC story called "Pentagon plans cyber-insect army" which tells of the US government's plan to use insects for warfare. Could there be a connection to the missing honey bees?
See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4808342.stm
graflok
lilloz
15-03-2007, 03:10 PM
interesting post thanks, i love bees :(
lookfar
15-03-2007, 03:18 PM
Thanks for posting this update, lookfar.
At the same time that the bees are vanishing, there is another BBC story called "Pentagon plans cyber-insect army" which tells of the US government's plan to use insects for warfare. Could there be a connection to the missing honey bees?
See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4808342.stm
graflok
Thanks graflok, that's an interesting read.
Ah the lovely DARPA!!!:eek:
Certainly sounds plausible to me as they quite blatantly state that "A winning bidder would have to deliver an insect within five metres of a specific target located 100 metres away". So there must be organisations out there preparing such things. Plus the fact that they've already trialled this with wasps & bees, but supposedly "failed".
Also quite disturbed to read of their other few schemes... 'Self Healing Minefields' & 'Brain Interface Programmes' - the stuff of nightmares :eek:
seamus
15-03-2007, 07:49 PM
I know a local beekeeper. He's a nice man. A little strange, as all beekeepers are. It's either a requirement or a result :p . I asked him about the disappearance of bees and he said "Yes it's been happening since the 80s. They call it "disappearing disease". No one knows what causes it. It's getting worse. Sometimes you will go out to a hive and find 5 or 6 bees clustered around a queen, and that will be all that's left of your hive. I've lost 3/4 of my hives this winter due to it. (lack of sufficient mass for proper heat)"
So it's getting worse.
s
graflok
15-03-2007, 07:53 PM
I've begun stocking up on canned foods and bottled water. Suggest you all do the same.
graflok
pollock
15-03-2007, 08:09 PM
I know this is not really to the point, but are these things scary or what?
I dont know what they are but maybe someone understands the language and vcan tell me?
http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=xy63fui1jh
lookfar
15-03-2007, 08:39 PM
Hi pollock
Thanks for the vid link - scary indeed! I've just found these vids (in english) about the same things, they're giant hornets from Japan. It states that just 30 of these hornets can wipe out 30,000 European honeybees in just 3 hours :eek: (lots of 3's there!)
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1012_051012_hornet_video.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060720-hornets-video.html
Article also from National Geographic - Can Wild Bees Take Sting From Honeybee Decline?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1020_041020_wild_bees.html
pollock
16-03-2007, 12:00 PM
Thank you lookfar, aha Japanese hornets!
The link about the wild bees was also interesting thanks!
F
graflok
23-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Now German beekeepers are reporting drastic losses of honeybees. Genetically modified crops are a suspected cause.
"If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees,
no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man." - Albert Einstein
article:
http://thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6234
graflok
lookfar
24-03-2007, 12:14 AM
Thanks for the update graflok.
I don't like the sound of that Bt Corn that's been used:mad: I've not heard of that before.
Be interesting to see what happens about this. I'm personally very concerned about it - I love bees & they play a very important role, certainly wouldn't like to see a world without them :(
thoth
17-04-2007, 03:49 AM
Here are a few links about Monsanto:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfm
and
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ENG20060827&articleId=3082
They have this new seed technology called "Terminator" which I presume refers to what it will do to us.
And, here is a Monsanto GM (genetic modification?) logo:
http://www.captainhookawards.org/var/captainhook/storage/images/nominations/monsanto/995-1-eng-CA/monsanto.gif
What the hell is that? A horned snake? It doesn't look like any plant I've ever seen.
graflok
I think they are VENUS fly traps. Snap, got ya! If you were a fly.
markhowie
18-04-2007, 11:00 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30800&postcount=8
lookfar
08-07-2007, 09:46 AM
Just came across this on the BBC News site... it seems that even the poor rarer bees are suffering at the hands of the usual wet weather too!!:( This is not good!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/6276874.stm
straycat
08-07-2007, 05:35 PM
Not a day passes i dont think on this. Its not just the bees.... but moths and butterflies and lightning bugs...ect:(
Remember as a kid the yard would be loaded with lightning bugs, now there are but a few.:(
My mind wants to blame the cell phones...(they are microwaves).:(
But my heart tells me Gods judgement will soon pass, and well.......:(
The bad news is the rapture may just be the lie the bible talks of.:(
lottie
08-07-2007, 05:57 PM
actually thinking about it i dont see many butterflies anymore- havnt seen a butterfly for ages- ive seen 1 this summer- anyone else notice this? :confused: as a kid i'd see them all the time.
joe dolan
08-07-2007, 06:20 PM
"If the BEES should ever die, Mankind has but a few years to live" Albert Einstein
straycat
08-07-2007, 09:20 PM
actually thinking about it i dont see many butterflies anymore- havnt seen a butterfly for ages- ive seen 1 this summer- anyone else notice this? as a kid i'd see them all the time.
Less and less every year.
Used to be years ago, as soon as it would rain the black top roads would be covered with frogs, toads ect..
not no more lucky to see one.
I remember (back in the day '95 :p ) a remote viewer talking of frogs and such going away. I am afraid we are on the last edge. :mad:
lookfar
09-07-2007, 12:14 AM
actually thinking about it i dont see many butterflies anymore- havnt seen a butterfly for ages- ive seen 1 this summer- anyone else notice this? :confused: as a kid i'd see them all the time.
Hi Lotts honey
I've seen a few this year, & actually saw a few today, but the numbers are definitely declining... it's not good!! :(
avatar
09-07-2007, 12:28 AM
"If the BEES should ever die, Mankind has but a few years to live" Albert Einstein
See right here is a great example of what many off us are guilty of in the CT movement. Repeating what we have been told - often by many - without ever checking the facts or doing our own research. No different to a Talking Head repeater on the nightly news.
Einstein never said anything of the sort, not even close. Pure propaganda and we all soak it up without checking the facts.
We are all guilty of this to some degree.
Ok, how do you know he never said that? Show me the proof & I'll concede.
graflok
09-07-2007, 09:45 PM
http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/20027/2000764582262575597_rs.jpg
joe dolan
09-07-2007, 09:48 PM
thanks graflok... save me the bother
joe dolan
09-07-2007, 10:04 PM
See right here is a great example of what many off us are guilty of in the CT movement. Repeating what we have been told - often by many - without ever checking the facts or doing our own research. No different to a Talking Head repeater on the nightly news.
Einstein never said anything of the sort, not even close. Pure propaganda and we all soak it up without checking the facts.
We are all guilty of this to some degree.
Yep. I heard it in the pub... (http://www.google.ie/search?q=einstein%2C+honey+bees&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
logic bomb
10-07-2007, 03:42 AM
Complete myth, Einstein never said that.. which is pretty obvious considering the whole statement is wildly false as any biologist will tell you.
lb
lookfar
05-09-2007, 02:13 PM
I'm not sure if this has anything to do with honeybee deaths, but I was quite shocked to read this today...
Inscentinel is a biotechnology firm that aims to make handheld portable chemical detectors using live honeybees.
The firm hopes that the detectors could be used in searches for explosives or drugs.
"Basically we train honeybees to detect explosives by associating food with a sugar reward," said Dr David Grant, a scientist at the Hertfordshire based firm.
"When we give them sugar and a smell at the same time they learn the two things go together so the next time they get the smell they expect sugar and they stick out their tongues."
To make a working device, the researchers insert the bees into a case where they are filmed as a fan draws in air from whatever is being examined.
A computer provides an immediate read-out of the bees' reactions. The bees are only used for two days before they are returned to the hive.
Inscentinel's researchers say the bees are much more effective than sniffer dogs.
"Dogs treat their training as a game. If they get bored they may tell you that there are drugs present even when they are not," said Dr Grant.
"Bees don't treat it as game; it is a response. They are like little micro machines."
The company was formed in 2002 and is funded by venture capitalists including the majority shareholder, Oxford Technology Venture Capitalist Trust.
It has no revenue yet, but has had research contracts with the UK and US military.
The firm believes they could have a commercially viable product available in a year - but they need money.
Co-founder Matilde Briens said a lot of people are interested in the product but when it comes to investment "nobody wants to hear the word research".
Taken from here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6972526.stm
tinmenace
08-09-2007, 08:46 PM
I have no idea if this has been posted elsewhere but I thought it was important enough to post it here...
So, it appears that the virus started in Israel. Also, there is a virus-resistant bee being developed in Israel.
Now, is this fluke? Or, is this part of a Zionist P-R-S agenda?
Article (http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070907/NEWS/709070304/1001)
graflok
09-09-2007, 12:43 AM
Could very well be, tinny.
Something is going on here, I feel sure.
My first thought was that it might have to do with Monsanto's apparent goal to
control all crops through it's GM seeds (Monsanto "patents" its seeds so no one
can use them without paying Monsanto and they buy up all the other seed
producers so they have a monopoly). Eliminating bees helps increase that
monopoly by making certain crops scarce.
But, there's also evidence that genetic work has been going on with bees for
military purposes so this may be part of it too.
jinjo5
09-09-2007, 12:46 AM
Could very well be, tinny.
Something is going on here, I feel sure.
My first thought was that it might have to do with Monsanto's apparent goal to
control all crops through it's GM seeds (Monsanto "patents" its seeds so no one
can use them without paying Monsanto and they buy up all the other seed
producers so they have a monopoly). Eliminating bees helps increase that
monopoly by making certain crops scarce.
But, there's also evidence that genetic work has been going on with bees for
military purposes so this may be part of it too.
be my little honey bee tonight,god i miss you.remember the old days???????
graflok
09-09-2007, 12:59 AM
remember the old days???????
You mean that time they took you away in a straight-jacket?
Yeah, that was great. :)
binhdinh_khiwarrior
09-09-2007, 11:39 AM
"We are now required to use GM seeds to maintain food production as pollination of food crops has been seriously affected because ...we killed... I mean... of the mysterious deaths of honey bees."
i think they have done this anyway..lol. virtually all seeds are gm now, and patent by one company...what fuckin bastards!