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hoovermat
14-09-2010, 09:12 PM
Anyone know why the Bible forbids astrology, fortunetellers and spiritism? Is it really tools of the devil?

makemyday
14-09-2010, 10:43 PM
Anyone know why the Bible forbids astrology, fortunetellers and spiritism? Is it really tools of the devil?

Illuminati, ancient civilisations used these, and SCIENE was THE ART of God, or Universe. The knowledge was (is) the power of life.


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They forbid this in order to dumb us down. Just they say: "don't look there, there's nothing interesting and useful, besides, it's only for gods chosen".

This is the power they possess. They use it against us. And here we are, not knowing about anything at all. Powerless sheep army.




I wonder another thing.. about SINS, especially the sexual ones, that were also forbidden by Bible for some reasons, no doubt.. I think it's about spiritual-carnal energy fields.. But it's not what this thread is about, sorry.

loveisthelaw
14-09-2010, 11:10 PM
It is prohibited to prevent you from being burned by a painful flame;

oh man, who seeks to control the universe, yet a feather for ever remains.

makemyday
14-09-2010, 11:26 PM
It is prohibited to prevent you from being burned by a painful flame;

oh man, who seeks to control the universe, yet a feather for ever remains.

What about seeking of complete knowledge to help the universe grow and become harmonic place to exist? Anyway, knowledge is the weapon used against us, that is the only weapon for us to defend ourselves with.

loveisthelaw
14-09-2010, 11:28 PM
What about seeking of complete knowledge to help the universe grow and become harmonic place to exist? Anyway, knowledge is the weapon used against us, that is the only weapon for us to defend ourselves with.

The universe is already harmonious and perfect for its purpose; remember the microcosm and the macrocosm; so observe our planet as the microcosm and you will see that it is only the human in chaos. It is we that judge things unworthy and flawed when in fact we simply observe ourselves and try to deny it.

Yes, knowledge and understanding are not enough; you have to know truth, you can not think it or read it, you have to feel it; anything else is theory and theory does not bake cakes.

veritasvoice
15-09-2010, 01:41 AM
Anyone know why the Bible forbids astrology, fortunetellers and spiritism? Is it really tools of the devil?

In a word, yes.

The scriptures make it very clear that God HATES these, because the people associated with these practices are either evil themselves, or admit evil into the world. You have to understand what the Bible says about the state of the dead to understand why God forbids consulting mediums - they are not talking to the spirits of the dead.

People should read the Bible in its entirety; it explains exactly what is going on in the world today, which is why it is under such a massive attack. The simple truth is that the devil is on the home stretch, and is taking as many souls with him as he can.

makemyday
15-09-2010, 07:21 AM
The universe is already harmonious and perfect for its purpose; remember the microcosm and the macrocosm; so observe our planet as the microcosm and you will see that it is only the human in chaos. It is we that judge things unworthy and flawed when in fact we simply observe ourselves and try to deny it.

Yes, knowledge and understanding are not enough; you have to know truth, you can not think it or read it, you have to feel it; anything else is theory and theory does not bake cakes.

*sigh*... I was exactly talking about what you just said. The nasty things happen to us due to evil spirit interruption into our energy fields. This has to be ended in order to step out of this shit for ever. And I didn't say that the whole universe needs help. I already know everything is perfect, no need to say that. ;)

loveisthelaw
15-09-2010, 10:14 AM
*sigh*... I was exactly talking about what you just said. The nasty things happen to us due to evil spirit interruption into our energy fields. This has to be ended in order to step out of this shit for ever. And I didn't say that the whole universe needs help. I already know everything is perfect, no need to say that. ;)

Then why sigh? We are not competing, be happy that you understand some truth and have found someone else who equally does - rejoice rather than sigh ;)

hoovermat
15-09-2010, 07:43 PM
Thank u for your opinions. Knowledge of the universe or the devil, that´s the big question. According to Jehovas witness all forms of religion besides theirs are from the devil. They say: don´t feel with your heart, think about what is written which is the truth... I say: but I believe in reincarnation and spirit guides... We have very interesting conversations anyway...

oilydoyley
15-09-2010, 07:46 PM
most religions on this planet are man made which = fear

the real religion and truths are far much older and dated than most modern day religions.

do the research and read through the symbolism of it all.

look at what our ancients were telling us.

veritasvoice
15-09-2010, 10:23 PM
Thank u for your opinions. Knowledge of the universe or the devil, that´s the big question. According to Jehovas witness all forms of religion besides theirs are from the devil. They say: don´t feel with your heart, think about what is written which is the truth... I say: but I believe in reincarnation and spirit guides... We have very interesting conversations anyway...

The trick is not to get caught up in denominations. Read the Bible, and you'll start to understand how almost every church today has it wrong...Christianity has been thoroughly demonized by the actions of the Roman Catholic Church and televangelists, both of which are not even remotely Christian.

The Catholic Church killed Christians by the thousands, banned and suppressed the Bible, and over half of its practices have no roots at all within scripture; in fact, there are scriptures that refer to practices very much like the Catholics, that God regarded as evil.

makemyday
16-09-2010, 09:32 PM
No knowledge is good or evil, it's the choice what it is used for. Read, learn, but never take any information as genuine, until you acquire this knowledge on your own. In this world, it is very easy to get lost, so stay your path mate, don't lose yourself, good luck!

linda28
17-09-2010, 12:30 AM
Anyone know why the Bible forbids astrology, fortunetellers and spiritism? Is it really tools of the devil?

Book of Matthew:

“After Jesus’ birth, astrologers from the east arrived one day in Jerusalem inquiring, ‘Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We observed his star at its rising and have come to pay him homage.’”

Looks like astrologers are put in a positive light. No word on them being evil for predicting Jesus' birth :)

phildee3
17-09-2010, 12:50 AM
Book of Matthew:

“After Jesus’ birth, astrologers from the east arrived one day in Jerusalem inquiring, ‘Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We observed his star at its rising and have come to pay him homage.’”

Looks like astrologers are put in a positive light.



Quite.

Absolutely reduiculous to start a thread like this without any quote to support this assertion!

OP fail!!

jdierbeck
17-09-2010, 03:53 AM
The assertion that spiritualism is evil is contradicted in the story of king Saul having mediums killed or exiled; then the kingdom is endangered, and the temple oracle will not answer him, so he disguises himself and seeks out a medium.

When the medium goes into trance, she realizes that he's king Saul, and he assures her safety. The spirit of the man of God Samuel is summoned up from the sleep of death, who predicts the defeat and death of Saul accurately.

So, Saul lost favor after persecuting mediums, and only a medium could give him an answer from God.

I understand why the Bible would also discourage mediumship; to protect all from frauds. But the Bible endorsed the reality of mediumship also.


Also, when Moses condemned divinations, he was speaking of the practices of Baalism all around; reading omens in entrails and liver spots of human sacrifice victims, etc.

The apostles divined which of them would be leader in Acts 1:26, by praying, then casting lots... divination.

Beware the doctrines of the inquisitioners, still imposed on all.

hoovermat
17-09-2010, 02:28 PM
phildee! whats rediculous, to search for the truth?
Galatees(spelling?)5:20

hoovermat
17-09-2010, 02:34 PM
Thanks, Makemyday!
Good to hear Linda.

phildee3
17-09-2010, 05:01 PM
phildee! whats rediculous, to search for the truth?


Nothing,
but one does not search for the truth by starting out with false assumptions.

phildee3
17-09-2010, 05:02 PM
The assertion that spiritualism is evil is contradicted in the story of king Saul having mediums killed or exiled; then the kingdom is endangered, and the temple oracle will not answer him, so he disguises himself and seeks out a medium.

When the medium goes into trance, she realizes that he's king Saul, and he assures her safety. The spirit of the man of God Samuel is summoned up from the sleep of death, who predicts the defeat and death of Saul accurately.

So, Saul lost favor after persecuting mediums, and only a medium could give him an answer from God.

I understand why the Bible would also discourage mediumship; to protect all from frauds. But the Bible endorsed the reality of mediumship also.


Also, when Moses condemned divinations, he was speaking of the practices of Baalism all around; reading omens in entrails and liver spots of human sacrifice victims, etc.

The apostles divined which of them would be leader in Acts 1:26, by praying, then casting lots... divination.

Beware the doctrines of the inquisitioners, still imposed on all.

It's so refreshing to have someone on the forum who has a brain!

Just as I was about to quit subscribing...

Thanks j.